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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by christistruth01: 10:51am On Mar 18, 2023
;DW
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by christistruth01: 10:51am On Mar 18, 2023
grin
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by christistruth01: 10:53am On Mar 18, 2023
LagosEmir:
Eyes don dey open

I said it that a time will come that the real owners of Lagos will step forward and take there Lagos state back from migrants from Ogun, Oyo, Osun and Ondo people laying claims to Lagos and always quick to threaten people

Nice one

Olabukola11:
Lagos is a Yoruba heritage and as such owned by every Yoruba irrespective of your state. As far as you are from SW.


LagosEmir:

It is either you're from Ogun state or you're from Lagos state , you can't come from both states so leave story.

If you're not Lagos indigine, you're a migrant and Lagos doesn't belong to you .
Your Case is easy



let me give you a little History Lesson

At least eight Yoruba Clans have Ancient Ancestral Lands in Lagos State
Awori with the Most Population, Ijebu with the most Land , Ilaje ,Egba ,Egbado ,Oyo ,Owu ,Ketu and the Egun who descended from Oduduwa through the Olupopo his Son own Badagry

Every single one of them arrived in Lagos State before Gbadebo Rhodes Ancestors

That is the Truth!!!!

For your Information MC Oluomo is Awori
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by christistruth01: 10:59am On Mar 18, 2023
Dreal1247:
When a group of politicians is trying to paint a true Lagosian black because of political party affiliation, what do you expect? Is there anyone on this platform who can substitute his blood brother for another just because he married from another tribe? The tribal centred campaign has made Elupee to be more popular and the Lagosians have been made to discover their true brother.



let me give you a little History Lesson

At least eight Yoruba Clans have Ancient Ancestral Lands in Lagos State
Awori with the Most Population, Ijebu with the most Land , Ilaje ,Egba ,Egbado ,Oyo ,Owu ,Ketu and the Egun who descended from Oduduwa through the Olupopo his Son own Badagry

Every single one of them arrived in Lagos State before Gbadebo Rhodes Ancestors

That is the Truth!!!!
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by omohayek: 11:17am On Mar 18, 2023
wirinet:

That's because the original Lagosians are not tribalistic, they have a long history of interactions with people from all other the world apart from all over Nigeria. They we're part of the Bini kingdom, they were repatriated slaves, they were British subjects, so there is little room for tribalism/racism, and that's why they intermarry without issues. The real tribalists are the immigrants from Ijebus-igbo, from Shaki or from Ede, they can't imagine marrying another tribe. They are very intolerant to others.
I did both my primary and secondary education in Lagos Island. I school with the Fernadez, Oshodis, Ojoras, Phillips, Fahms, all original Lagosians. There was no atom of tribalism in the children of these families.
So now you're telling me that the families of returnee slaves are more "original Lagosians" than mine that actually have been ruling Lagos before their slave ancestors were even abducted? In your hatred for Tinubu and the APC, you seem to have gone off the rails, first endorsing the "Amoda Ogunlere" nonsense, and now this ...

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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by MuchAdo: 11:28am On Mar 18, 2023
The article has piiggidiot and illiteracy written all over it cheesy

Indigent is NEVER the same indigene or indigenous cheesy

Piiggidiots amaka cheesy
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by olisaEze(m): 11:39am On Mar 18, 2023
Oh well, so Lagos is a Lagosian’s heritage and not a Yoruba heritage, toh! I know Delta-Ibo boys in Warri with as much rights and privileges as indigent Uwvie. But they know not to pretend that the land now belongs to them and start chasing other immigrants away with ethnic slurs.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by 77up(m): 11:42am On Mar 18, 2023
Source or one stupid fool Ipob hiding somewhere to type rubbish?Yorubas are wiser than this cheap propaganda.

Next please.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by christistruth01: 11:43am On Mar 18, 2023
MuchAdo:
The article has piiggidiot and illiteracy written all over it cheesy

Indigent is NEVER the same indigene or indigenous cheesy

Piiggidiots amaka cheesy


You are very right that was how some People were lying the other time that Oba of Lagos said Lagos was not Yorubaland before Oba of Lagos came out to fully debunk the Statement
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by Freethinker87: 11:56am On Mar 18, 2023
wirinet:

That's because the original Lagosians are not tribalistic, they have a long history of interactions with people from all other the world apart from all over Nigeria. They we're part of the Bini kingdom, they were repatriated slaves, they were British subjects, so there is little room for tribalism/racism, and that's why they intermarry without issues. The real tribalists are the immigrants from Ijebus-igbo, from Shaki or from Ede, they can't imagine marrying another tribe. They are very intolerant to others.
I did both my primary and secondary education in Lagos Island. I school with the Fernadez, Oshodis, Ojoras, Phillips, Fahms, all original Lagosians. There was no atom of tribalism in the children of these families.

I was born at Lagos Island too, just like you, I grew up there and did my elementary schools there. I still live among indigenous Lagosians and they're the best. A lot of people think that they're just finding their voice but the truth is that they've been screaming from the rooftops about this injustice for a very long time but only the Igbos have bothered to listen to their case.

The problem, however, is that they've fought for so long and have grown weary from fighting a lost battle. Those who are bold enough to speak up are usually "settled" with Govt appointment or contract, leaving us the allies exposed to the consequences of such alliance. Obanikoro campaign in 2011 comes to mind.

We've really suffered for these people. I hope GRV does not go the way of Obanikoro and Jimi Agbaje who were settled with Govt contracts.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by wirinet(m): 12:11pm On Mar 18, 2023
omohayek:

So now you're telling me that the families of returnee slaves are more "original Lagosians" than mine that actually have been ruling Lagos before their slave ancestors were even abducted? In your hatred for Tinubu and the APC, you seem to have gone off the rails, first endorsing the "Amoda Ogunlere" nonsense, and now this ...
There is definitely something not adding up with your worship of Tinubu. For you to claim that you are from the ruling family of Lagos but at the same time a worshiper of Tinubu - a non native is something of a paradox. Ironically I am closer to Tinubu himself than you. My mum knew the Mogagi and Tinubu families as she grew up in Isale Eko. We all knew Bola Tinubu was adopted. Tinubus wife's family house is very close to my paternal family house in Warri.

Now the returnee slaves have as much rights in Lagos to you and morally more rights than Tinubu. They definitely have more rights than an Ambode, Fashola or Gbajabiamila.

To me Tinubu is like an imposter, just like Ptolemy in Egypt, Joseph in the Bible or Alimi in ilorin. He through shear luck, political machinations and collaborators captured power and impose himself on the people.
To claim Tinubu is responsible for the development of Lagos is like saying Joseph was responsible for the development of ancient Egypt. Lagos was already the most developed city in Nigeria before Tinubu became governor in 1999, before then lagos has had some decent governors like Marwa, Jakande, Mobolaji Johnson, etc.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by optionalY09: 12:18pm On Mar 18, 2023
all Yoruba are indecent to Lagos, mafor
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by wirinet(m): 12:20pm On Mar 18, 2023
optionalY09:
all Yoruba are indecent to Lagos, mafor
So Yorubas from Togo, Benin and Brazil can claim Lagos?
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by optionalY09: 12:21pm On Mar 18, 2023
wirinet:

So Yorubas from Togo, Benin and Brazil can claim Lagos?

Yes they are Yoruba
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by wirinet(m): 12:26pm On Mar 18, 2023
optionalY09:


Yes they are Yoruba

And you think Lagos can contain all the Yorubas in this world?

What about me an Itsekiri just like Remi Tinubu, can I claim Lagos?
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by dododawa1: 12:29pm On Mar 18, 2023
YORUBA is YORUBA,no two YORUBA,hope ipob hearing
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by dododawa1: 12:29pm On Mar 18, 2023
YORUBA is YORUBA,no two YORUBA,hope ipob hearing [i][/i]
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by manmade(m): 12:33pm On Mar 18, 2023
Olabukola11:
It seems the people of SE and SS have succeeded in corrupting the minds of the Lagos indigenes against fellow Yorubas.

We have a lot of work to do today to make sure APC stays in power in Lagos.

leave Lagos for the Lagosian to rule ,stop hiding under the ibo to claim what's is not yours.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by optionalY09: 12:35pm On Mar 18, 2023
wirinet:


And you think Lagos can contain all the Yorubas in this world?

What about me an Itsekiri just like Remi Tinubu, can I claim Lagos?

No Yoruba is are the major tribe in Africa we must be put first anywhere you see us. We are the superior tribe of Africa and we must be respected anywhere you find us
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by wirinet(m): 12:40pm On Mar 18, 2023
optionalY09:


No Yoruba is are the major tribe in Africa we must be put first anywhere you see us. We are the superior tribe of Africa and we must be respected anywhere you find us

Any tribe that crave to be respected and become xenophobic to establish itself has an inferiority complex. Respect is earned and not forced or imposed.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by optionalY09: 12:54pm On Mar 18, 2023
wirinet:


Any tribe that crave to be respected and become xenophobic to establish itself has an inferiority complex. Respect is earned and not forced or imposed.

They are killing us in lagos, i meant foreigner from the east shooting yoruba people and calling them thugs is that right and never have you gone the xenophobic rough because that’s not who we are. We are civilized accommodating people with lot of patient

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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by XAUBulls: 3:15pm On Mar 18, 2023
Olabukola11:
Check out the write up by a Yinka Bawa-Bankole on the ALSI (Association of Lagos State indigenes) platform today.....πŸ‘‡πŸ½

The argument of pan yoruba would catch up with them at last. If Lagos is No Man's Land that argument should be carried to its logical end. If Lagos is not a No Man's Land then all these village yorubas I know in Lagos who come in from some decrepit, sleepy Ijebu and Ekiti villages..many from some Egba rural dingy places and those of us from Ibadan and Ogbomosho, Oshogbo and Iragbiji should not turn Lagos to No Man's Land for Lagosians. We should give space to the owners of Lagos. Let their children govern them. Let their children represent them. Let them have political control of Lagos. Infact the pan yorubas are the danger to original Lagosians not the Ibos. The indigent Lagosians, pushed to the wall, are only seeking an alliance with the numeric power of the Ibos to liberate themselves from pan yoruba imperialism. Pan yoruba are the thieves in Lagos. They come from their dingy, backward rural villages where you don't even have provision store and their hotels sell only one menu to come to Lagos to make millions if not billions out of dispossessing Lagosians of their ancestral lands. If Lagos is not a No Man's Land then the argument should be taken to its logical conclusion. Anyone that has not travelled the entire routes and intestines of the entire SW can be bamboozled by villagers parading themselves as urbane in Lagos. The indigent Lagos wouldn't be treated with respect in the dingy villages and rural from which these pan yoruba LAGOSIANS have come to invade Lagos. We can start with Iragbibi...πŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈ...can all the leeches on the indigent Lagosians respect them? Lagos isn't a No Man's Land. Correct. Lagos belongs to indigent Lagosians. Lagos doesn't belong to Pan Yoruba it belongs to Lagosians. The Lagosian does not have any lands in Oye Ekiti, Ijesa Isu, Oke-Ogun, Erin-Ile, Fiditi, Okuku and Akure...πŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈ...if they do demonstrate it to me...truth is that I wouldn't even expose myself to the blackmail of living in some yoruba states given their legendary hostility to non indigenes who want to live in their sleepy villages. That is the truth. We should stop deceiving ourselves. Lagosians have ambition like you. Their children cannot be sidelined. Tinubu cannot come out of dingy Iragbiji to take over Lagos and hand its resources to Seyi and make Lagosians slave of Seyi or whatever...practical commonsense. Do unto others what you wish they do to you. Same people talking about pan yoruba owning Lagos on this platform may be very horrible and wicked landlords to their fellow yoruba living in houses that they built with stolen money from Lagos coffers! Pan Yoruba argument is disguised intra ethnic imperialism hiding under some cultural amnesia. Let the Iwori guy go to Agodi Gate to sell spare parts...he will know that Ibadan belongs to Ibadan...Lagosians are seeking freedom from pan yoruba imperialism because they have been colonised by pan yoruba. Indeed there should be legislation to reserve the offices of Governor, Deputy Governor and Speaker of Lagos for Lagosians not all these landgrabbers whose ancestral lands aren't worth 500k even if you buy 20km of it...the yorubas have a proverb for smart thieves: ko se or ko kin nwa koma lala...even twin brothers would delineate the boundaries of their possessions....Lagos is yorubaland ko....Lagos belongs to Lagosians. Ibadan belongs to Ibadan. Ijesha Isu and Ikhole Ekiti belongs to their children. Pan yoruba are the real problem of Lagos not Ibos.πŸ€žπŸ½πŸ€žπŸ½πŸ€žπŸ½πŸ™πŸΎπŸ™πŸΎπŸ™πŸΎπŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬
NOTE:

This article posted by the OP is clearly a fake article, written by a non-Yoruba to incite Yorubas against one another. The name used by the writer is not indigenous to any Lagos family.


I agree though that the technocrat indigenes of Lagos State from the 5 divisions of Lagos State (the IBILE divisions) must from the next election cycle in all political parties be represented as Governorship and Deputy Governership candidates.


NO real indigene of Lagos State would demean or insult the Ijebu people by saying: "decrepit, dingy, sleepy Ijebu villages" because Ijebuland extends from Ogun State right into Lagos State and Ijebus are real indigenes of Lagos State because parts of Ijebuland and Aworiland were carved out of the Old Western Region on May 27, 1967 to create Lagos State for the indigenes by the iconic General Yakubu Gowon government. 12 new states were created in all parts of Nigeria on that day by Gowon.


The so-called writer told Ijebus and others in that post by the OP to go back to where they came from. This is very laughable and similar to
what Gbadebo of the LP (who is a descendant of formerly enslaved
Yorubas majorly from either Oyo, Ogun, or Osun who returned from Sierra Leone in the 1800s) told Vanguard newspaper recently, and on his ignorant anti-Yoruba
Twitter posts.

The Ijebu people are the indigenes and land owners of Ajah, Ikorodu LGA, Epe LGA, Ibeju-Lekki LGA, in Lagos State.

The Aworis who originally migrated from Ile Ife many centuries ago to the Ota axis of Ogun State and Lagos State are the indigenes in the 17 other LGAs, and the Aworis are indigenes of Badagry LGA with the Ogus.


Governor Babajide Sanwo-Olu is a Yoruba man of Ijebu paternal lineage and an investment banker and former treasurer of the banks where he worked before he even got to the age of 40.

So, he is qualified to be the
Governor of Lagos State as an Ijebu man.

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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by nisai: 9:29am On Mar 19, 2023
Iamgrey5:


Afi "us indigenes naa"
grin grin grin
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by omohayek: 11:16am On Mar 19, 2023
wirinet:

There is definitely something not adding up with your worship of Tinubu. For you to claim that you are from the ruling family of Lagos but at the same time a worshiper of Tinubu - a non native is something of a paradox. Ironically I am closer to Tinubu himself than you. My mum knew the Mogagi and Tinubu families as she grew up in Isale Eko. We all knew Bola Tinubu was adopted. Tinubus wife's family house is very close to my paternal family house in Warri.
What nonsense! Where have I ever "worshipped" Tinubu? I neither know the man nor have any business nor familial connections to him, and I have certainly never claimed he was any sort of saint or savior. To be irritated at what has been a clearly tribally-motivated campaign of character assassination directed at the man for several years now is not the same thing as "worshipping" him, unless you've been so blinded by your own monomaniacal hatred of him that you can no longer see the distinction.


Now the returnee slaves have as much rights in Lagos to you and morally more rights than Tinubu. They definitely have more rights than an Ambode, Fashola or Gbajabiamila.
"Now the Igbo migrants to the SS have as much rights in Itsekiriland as you and morally more rights than any of your political leaders. They definitely have more rights than any Itsekiri leader who has ever been elected to high office." How do you like it when your own rhetoric is directed back at you? Do you still think this makes sense and is worthy of serious consideration, or does your blindness to how you come across only work in one direction?

To me Tinubu is like an imposter, just like Ptolemy in Egypt, Joseph in the Bible or Alimi in ilorin. He through shear luck, political machinations and collaborators captured power and impose himself on the people.
To claim Tinubu is responsible for the development of Lagos is like saying Joseph was responsible for the development of ancient Egypt. Lagos was already the most developed city in Nigeria before Tinubu became governor in 1999, before then lagos has had some decent governors like Marwa, Jakande, Mobolaji Johnson, etc.
I know it's both fun and convenient to knock down straw men, but the feeling you get from doing is entirely hollow. I have never argued that Tinubu "is responsible for the development of Lagos", and I would never do so, seeing as I know that Lagos was already developing and flourishing before the Saros you champion even started coming there in the 19th century (no Vivour even lived in Lagos before 1870). Go through my entire comment history and show me where I've made any of the straw-men claims you're knocking down here - I'll be waiting...

I repeat, you seem to have gone round the bend in your hatred of Tinubu, willing to embrace any crazy theory and insulting claim, no matter the peripheral damage done - it's not the hatred of Tinubu that disturbs me, but the outlandish claims you're willing to back because of it. My forefathers were here in Lagos before any white man or slave "returnee" ever came to the island of Eko, as were the Ijebus and Egbas whose lands are part of the artificial and arbitrary "Lagos state" which was carved out without any consultation by a military dictator. When Oba Akitoye had to flee Lagos due to Kosoko's ambitions, he fled to Abeokuta, and he was backed by an Egba woman named Tinubu, the very woman who made the name famous. Awolowo, the most famous Yoruba leader of all time, was of both Ijebu and Egba descent. Yorubas have never had the artificial borders and distinctions between us that you and the IPOB trolls you emulate seek to impose upon us, and the only effect such "real Lagosian" and "original Lagosian" rhetoric has on us is to harden us in the conviction that all of this is about much more than Tinubu as a politician (whose time in the limelight will inevitably pass), but about a do-or-die ethnic struggle for control, and as we are seeing right now with the governorship elections, that means you are condemning yourself to be perpetually on the losing side, as we won't allow ourselves to be turned into powerless outsiders in our own land, even if that means putting up with machine-politicians like Tinubu for the meantime.

I've told you this before, but if you were at all serious about defeating Tinubu politically, the intelligent thing to do would be to show us - and by "us" I mean Yorubas in general, not Igbos who already hate him with scary intensity - that there are better alternatives which won't end up with outsiders giving us marching orders in our own homeland. The worst way to go about it is the one you've chosen: adopting alienating and brazenly dishonest rhetoric insinuating that only some outsider immigrant group like the Saro are "real" and "original" Lagosians, while we Aworis, Ijebus and Egbas are somehow disqualified as being "unreal" since our lands supposedly "belong to the Binis" (by which reasoning, all Itsekiri land still belongs to the British, as they conquered it just as the Binis once conquered Lagos).

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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by llakes4real: 12:02pm On Mar 19, 2023
omohayek:

What nonsense! Where have I ever "worshipped" Tinubu? I neither know the man nor have any business nor familial connections to him, and I have certainly never claimed he was any sort of saint or savior. To be irritated at what has been a clearly tribally-motivated campaign of character assassination directed at the man for several years now is not the same thing as "worshipping" him, unless you've been so blinded by your own monomaniacal hatred of him that you can no longer see the distinction.


"Now the Igbo migrants to the SS have as much rights in Itsekiriland as you and morally more rights than any of your political leaders. They definitely have more rights than any Itsekiri leader who has ever been elected to high office." How do you like it when your own rhetoric is directed back at you? Do you still think this makes sense and is worthy of serious consideration, or does your blindness to how you come across only work in one direction?

I know it's both fun and convenient to knock down straw men, but the feeling you get from doing is entirely hollow. I have never argued that Tinubu "is responsible for the development of Lagos", and I would never do so, seeing as I know that Lagos was already developing and flourishing before the Saros you champion even started coming there in the 19th century (no Vivour even lived in Lagos before 1870). Go through my entire comment history and show me where I've made any of the straw-men claims you're knocking down here - I'll be waiting...

I repeat, you seem to have gone round the bend in your hatred of Tinubu, willing to embrace any crazy theory and insulting claim, no matter the peripheral damage done - it's not the hatred of Tinubu that disturbs me, but the outlandish claims you're willing to back because of it. My forefathers were here in Lagos before any white man or slave "returnee" ever came to the island of Eko, as were the Ijebus and Egbas whose lands are part of the artificial and arbitrary "Lagos state" which was carved out without any consultation by a military dictator. When Oba Akitoye had to flee Lagos due to Kosoko's ambitions, he fled to Abeokuta, and he was backed by an Egba woman named Tinubu, the very woman who made the name famous. Awolowo, the most famous Yoruba leader of all time, was of both Ijebu and Egba descent. Yorubas have never had the artificial borders and distinctions between us that you and the IPOB trolls you emulate seek to impose upon us, and the only effect such "real Lagosian" and "original Lagosian" rhetoric has on us is to harden us in the conviction that all of this is about much more than Tinubu as a politician (whose time in the limelight will inevitably pass), but about a do-or-die ethnic struggle for control, and as we are seeing right now with the governorship elections, that means you are condemning yourself to be perpetually on the losing side, as we won't allow ourselves to be turned into powerless outsiders in our own land, even if that means putting up with machine-politicians like Tinubu for the meantime.

I've told you this before, but if you were at all serious about defeating Tinubu politically, the intelligent thing to do would be to show us - and by "us" I mean Yorubas in general, not Igbos who already hate him with scary intensity - that there are better alternatives which won't end up with outsiders giving us marching orders in our own homeland. The worst way to go about it is the one you've chosen: adopting alienating and brazenly dishonest rhetoric insinuating that only some outsider immigrant group like the Saro are "real" and "original" Lagosians, while we Aworis, Ijebus and Egbas are somehow disqualified as being "unreal" since our lands supposedly "belong to the Binis" (by which reasoning, all Itsekiri land still belongs to the British, as they conquered it just as the Binis once conquered Lagos).

I have not read anything more beautiful than this.

We can also argue that the British are more indigenous to Lagos than every Yoruba.

Where were the saros in this population census conducted by the British?

https://www.nairaland.com/1421083/population-statistics-lagos-british-colony

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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by XAUBulls: 3:06pm On Mar 19, 2023
omohayek:

What nonsense! Where have I ever "worshipped" Tinubu? I neither know the man nor have any business nor familial connections to him, and I have certainly never claimed he was any sort of saint or savior. To be irritated at what has been a clearly tribally-motivated campaign of character assassination directed at the man for several years now is not the same thing as "worshipping" him, unless you've been so blinded by your own monomaniacal hatred of him that you can no longer see the distinction.


"Now the Igbo migrants to the SS have as much rights in Itsekiriland as you and morally more rights than any of your political leaders. They definitely have more rights than any Itsekiri leader who has ever been elected to high office." How do you like it when your own rhetoric is directed back at you? Do you still think this makes sense and is worthy of serious consideration, or does your blindness to how you come across only work in one direction?

I know it's both fun and convenient to knock down straw men, but the feeling you get from doing is entirely hollow. I have never argued that Tinubu "is responsible for the development of Lagos", and I would never do so, seeing as I know that Lagos was already developing and flourishing before the Saros you champion even started coming there in the 19th century (no Vivour even lived in Lagos before 1870). Go through my entire comment history and show me where I've made any of the straw-men claims you're knocking down here - I'll be waiting...

I repeat, you seem to have gone round the bend in your hatred of Tinubu, willing to embrace any crazy theory and insulting claim, no matter the peripheral damage done - it's not the hatred of Tinubu that disturbs me, but the outlandish claims you're willing to back because of it. My forefathers were here in Lagos before any white man or slave "returnee" ever came to the island of Eko, as were the Ijebus and Egbas whose lands are part of the artificial and arbitrary "Lagos state" which was carved out without any consultation by a military dictator. When Oba Akitoye had to flee Lagos due to Kosoko's ambitions, he fled to Abeokuta, and he was backed by an Egba woman named Tinubu, the very woman who made the name famous. Awolowo, the most famous Yoruba leader of all time, was of both Ijebu and Egba descent. Yorubas have never had the artificial borders and distinctions between us that you and the IPOB trolls you emulate seek to impose upon us, and the only effect such "real Lagosian" and "original Lagosian" rhetoric has on us is to harden us in the conviction that all of this is about much more than Tinubu as a politician (whose time in the limelight will inevitably pass), but about a do-or-die ethnic struggle for control, and as we are seeing right now with the governorship elections, that means you are condemning yourself to be perpetually on the losing side, as we won't allow ourselves to be turned into powerless outsiders in our own land, even if that means putting up with machine-politicians like Tinubu for the meantime.

I've told you this before, but if you were at all serious about defeating Tinubu politically, the intelligent thing to do would be to show us - and by "us" I mean Yorubas in general, not Igbos who already hate him with scary intensity - that there are better alternatives which won't end up with outsiders giving us marching orders in our own homeland. The worst way to go about it is the one you've chosen: adopting alienating and brazenly dishonest rhetoric insinuating that only some outsider immigrant group like the Saro are "real" and "original" Lagosians, while we Aworis, Ijebus and Egbas are somehow disqualified as being "unreal" since our lands supposedly "belong to the Binis" (by which reasoning, all Itsekiri land still belongs to the British, as they conquered it just as the Binis once conquered Lagos).
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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by XAUBulls: 3:07pm On Mar 19, 2023
llakes4real:


I have not read anything more beautiful than this.

We can also argue that the British are more indigenous to Lagos than every Yoruba.

Where were the saros in this population census conducted by the British?

https://www.nairaland.com/1421083/population-statistics-lagos-british-colony

@llakes4real,

If you observe that census web link and historical facts closely, you would realise that:

The Yoruba Saros, Yoruba Brazilian and Yoruba Cuban returnees were already settling down in Lagos Island as of the 1850s and they identified with the Yoruba subgroups they originally came from such as Egba, Oyo, Ijesa, Ekiti, Ijebu, Egbado, etc, in the 1872 and 1891 Lagos Island population census.


Ajayi Crowther was from Osogun in Iseyin, Oyo. He was a Saro (Yoruba Sierra Leonian) returnee.

Candido da Rocha born in Brazil and he and his parents returned to
Lagos Island in the 1850s was Ijesa.

Sir Adeyemo Alakija (formerly known by the Brazilian name Placido Asumpcao) was Egba.



Hope this helps.

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Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by Iretii0511(m): 3:28pm On Mar 19, 2023
raskymonojendor:

All of Ojodu, Akute, Ajuwon, Alagbole, isheri border towns of Ogun/Lagos are Aworis that speak with the same accent/dialect as their Awori kins in Lagos Island.
All the Epe, Ikorodu and area that border with Ogun state are Ijebus.

All these non Yorubas know nothing about how integrated the Yorubas are. Their posts are hilarious.


Can an Akure person be allowed to govern Ekiti because they have same dialect? Will an Ijesha man be allowed to displace indigenous Ado just cause they were all part of the Ekiti parapo in the past? You guys are just party faithfuls. Not Yoruba. That’s why you accused Jimi of being an Igbo agenda and play similar politics with Gbadebo. You guys have access to all the propaganda machineries now and it serves your purpose, one day, it will fail you.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by Masterito(m): 3:32pm On Mar 19, 2023
Lol. So Lagos don't Indigenes? Ids Osun, Ogun and Ondo owned by every Yoruba? If Yes, then it is fine.
Olabukola11:
Lagos is a Yoruba heritage and as such owned by every Yoruba irrespective of your state. As far as you are from SW.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by Nobody: 3:32pm On Mar 19, 2023
ENOUGH of this Lagos and Lagos owners RANTS, It is beginning to irritate me.

Lagos is in the SW quadrant of the country. Lagos has indigenes and it is one of the states in Nigeria. NOW the election is over and you guys should GET A LIFE!
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by Olabukola11: 1:38pm On Mar 21, 2023
YourhealthNG2:

The real issue is that while someone from Osun can contest and become governor of Lagos State, the true indigenes of Lagos cannot contest for governorship in any other Southwestern state, outside Lagos. This is the irony and it's very unfair
It is not what you think. Any Osun indigene that contest for political post in Lagos must have lived in Lagos for a long time. Lagos indigenes don't leave in Osun, that makes it difficult for them to contest an elective position there.
Re: Is Lagos Indegines Becoming Hostile To Other Yorubas by Olabukola11: 1:39pm On Mar 21, 2023
Masterito:
Lol. So Lagos don't Indigenes? Ids Osun, Ogun and Ondo owned by every Yoruba? If Yes, then it is fine.
Some how yes. Yoruba land is for all Yoruba. Simple.

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