Karl Marx described religion as the opium of the masses because he viewed it as a tool used by the ruling class to placate and control the working class.

He argued that religion offered false hope to the working class, distracting them from their struggles and providing them with a false sense of security.

Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors.

What do you think?

Kalatium:
■ Karl Marx described religion as the opium of the masses because he viewed it as a tool used by the ruling class to placate and control the working class. He argued that religion offered false hope to the working class, distracting them from their struggles and providing them with a false sense of security. Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors. What do you think?

1. That is what religion is.

Kobojunkie:
1. That is what religion is.

Oshe...

If I had new naira notes, I for dash you some

Kalatium:
Karl Marx described religion as the opium of the masses because he viewed it as a tool used by the ruling class to placate and control the working class.

He argued that religion offered false hope to the working class, distracting them from their struggles and providing them with a false sense of security.

Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors.

What do you think?

I
Me thinks he's too wise for his own good
The madmen too get sense, maybe sense join kill am

But he's totally correct.


Might I add, that religion is also a way to informally tax the masses...
And a business opportunity to those who have the talent of doing wordy acrobatics...

correctguy101:


I
Me thinks he's too wise for his own good
The madmen too get sense, maybe sense join kill am

But he's totally correct.


Might I add, that religion is also a way to informally tax the masses...
And a business opportunity to those who have the talent of doing wordy acrobatics...

True

So so sad but true. He was totally right.

Kalatium:
...Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors.

What do you think?

Still the same way they used education and riches to control and oppress people.

People already had their religion before and they were fine before their oppressors came with their antics of oppression.

Bottom line is that people oppress people using anything that they can use eg riches, sex, ability to speak Americana, muscle, yansh, breast etc

Even right now you are oppressing someone who you are better than.

Kalatium:
Karl Marx described religion as the opium of the masses because he viewed it as a tool used by the ruling class to placate and control the working class.

He argued that religion offered false hope to the working class, distracting them from their struggles and providing them with a false sense of security.

Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors.

What do you think?

China isn't religious yet their masseshave been prevented from rising up against their oppressors.
With or without religion the ruling class would continue to oppress.

Kalatium:

Karl Marx described religion as the opium of the masses because he viewed it as a tool used by the ruling class to placate and control the working class. He argued that religion offered false hope to the working class, distracting them from their struggles and providing them with a false sense of security.
Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors. What do you think?

I think Karl Marx is just an intelligent person but unwise.

INTELLIGENT beings only see things from the surface but only WISE ones see the deepest of all secrets.
Politics is the one and only problem of mankind as man always think of dominating his neighbour to their detriment {Ecclesiastes 8:9} yet after gaining dominance over the less privileged it becomes somehow impossible for the dominated to get help since power to free them is in the hands of their dominators! Ecclesiastes 4:1

What is the origin of politics?
The first human couple were given a directive by the Creator to do whatever they like except setting up standards regarding RIGHT or WRONG for their fellow humans {Genesis 2:17} sadly they rebelled against God because they wanted to become rulers (Gods) over all those that will be born on this planet.
That is the birth of POLITICS!

After the death of Adam and Eve their children began multiplying on the earth and since the first human couple has rebelled against God He (God) need to allow them be not telling them how to cohabit after all that's what their parents wanted. But faithful humans like Abel, Enoch and many others continue to suffice showing that mankind need God's guidance while the vast majority choose to become leaders using their own discretion, that's why Nimrod a very skilled hunter made himself the first King over all the inhabitants of the earth at that time. What tool did Nimrod use to gain dominance? The Bible said he was a skilled hunter in opposition to God {Genesis 10:9} this means instead of God to set standards Nimrod forced people to become his subjects with the weapons he used for hunting!

He commanded the people to move to a plain surface of the earth and build a great city so that all the people may be under his kingdom! Genesis 11:1-3
But if they should succeed then God's plan for humans to scattered throughout the earth and live in all it's parts will be shattered! Genesis 1:28 compare to Genesis 11:4
That's why God confused their language so each person moved away from subjection to Nimrod since they don't understand his language and only those speaking the same language moves toward the same direction! Genesis 11:9

Ever since then people like Nimrod has been using different means to dominate their fellowman making themselves ruler over others. Means like: WEAPONS, ELOQUENCE, BEAUTY, FAME, MONEY and so on has been the tools used to canvas the majority into supporting their ambitions.

So by the time RELIGION as another means to strengthen political ambitions was introduced by a King called Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon many politicians started adding religion to their initiatives. Nebuchadnezzar built an image and commanded all those under his kingdom to take a bow before this image after the sound of different musical instruments are played (National Anthem) all politicians from that time began using this tool to strengthen their kingdom afterwards.

Remember that Nebuchadnezzar wasn't a faithful man all he wanted was to strengthen his kingdom through this means so politicians till today aren't faithful in any way all they care for is to make their subjects commit themselves by reciting phrases of oath to remain faithful to the course chosen by those ruling over them. You can recite the National Anthem of any nation and see if it's about love for neighbours or to remain obedient to those in power.

So Karl Marx would have been right but today China no longer use religion as over their own people because they've found out that it's becoming obsolete. The last presidential election held in Nigeria (the world's most populated black nation) has shown that religion is no longer working for the benefits of politicians as Nigerians defy religion and ethnicity to vote for the man of their choice!

May you have PEACE!

Kalatium:


Karl Marx described religion as the opium of the masses because he viewed it as a tool used by the ruling class to placate and control the working class.

He argued that religion offered false hope to the working class, distracting them from their struggles and providing them with a false sense of security.

Marx believed that religion was used by the ruling class to keep the working class docile and obedient, preventing them from rising up against their oppressors.

What do you think?

Karl Marx viewed religion from one standpoint, and before Einstein's Relativity. Other views show religion could also be used to free people from docility and empower them to rise up.

For instance, if I religionise you to believe that eating fruits of knowledge will kill you and if you believe me, you will be like ignorant naked enslaved Adam in a Garden of Eden not nourishing yourself with knowledge for fear that knowledge will kill you. But if I religionise you to test every spirit like Eve did, your eyes will open and you will become wise and you will free yourself from slavery and become self employed.

And if I religionise you that you are neither Adam nor Eve who were slaves in a Garden forbidden to nourish yourself with knowledge, but instead are created in God's image who has been given every seed-bearing plant on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit contains seed and every beast of the earth and every bird of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth and every green plant for your food to be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground, you will likely end up a god or at least a very influential productive being.

It is not religion that is the opium. Religion is a tool that can be used like opium or a tool that can be a used as a medicine, depending on use and dosage. But that is why modern times is moving away from religion to education instead, so that you may learn to use your own heart and soul and mind and being to ask and knock and seek for understanding instead of allowing yourself to be ignorantly religionised to believe.

tctrills:

China isn't religious yet their masseshave been prevented from rising up against their oppressors.
With or without religion the ruling class would continue to oppress.

China is religionised! Their religion is Communism.

Perhaps consider that another word for religion is doctrine. And another word for religionised is (in)doctrinate, which China has very well done, with force.

America too is religionised. Theirs is Capitalism, amongst many others, being the land of the free and the brave where force is unacceptable.

Another word for it is indoctrinated

budaatum:


China is religionised! Their religion is Communism.

Perhaps consider that another word for religion is doctrine. And another word for religionised is (in)doctrinate, which China has very well done, with force.

America too is religionised. Theirs is Capitalism, amongst many others, being the land of the free and the brave where force is unacceptable.

Another word for it is indoctrinated

What are you talking about oga? Communism and Capitalism are economic systems not religions.
In America there is freedom of religion.
If you call capitalism and socialism religions you should write your own dictionary so we begin to depend on your definitions

tctrills:

What are you talking about oga? Communism and Capitalism are economic systems not religions.

The "economic systems" of Communism and capitalism become religions when they are treated as doctrines and when people are indoctrinated with or into them.

Christianity is a social system. Religion is the process by which it is propagated. Even the education system in Nigeria is taught in a religious manner, which is why we believe instead of seek to understand and know.

But I would understand if you do not know what I am talking about.

budaatum:

The "economic systems" of Communism and capitalism become religions when they are treated as doctrines and when people are indoctrinated with or into them.

Christianity is a social system. Religion is the process by which it is propagated. Even the education system in Nigeria is taught in a religious manner, which is why we believe instead of seek to understand and know.

But I would understand if you do not know what I am saying.

Your last statement is very funny.
Every religion is a social system. But there is a big difference between an economic doctrine and a religious doctrine.
We also have what we call military doctrine. Just because something is tagged 'doctrine' does not make it a religion.
The problem here is not with my understanding but rather, your definitions.

tctrills:

Your last statement is very funny.
Every religion is a social system. But there is a big difference between an economic doctrine and a religious doctrine.
We also have what we call military doctrine. Just because something is tagged 'doctrine' does not make it a religion.
The problem here is not with my understanding but rather, your definitions.

The bold is true. A doctrine that is not religiously propagated is just a doctrine. But if I religiously (with consistent and conscientious regularity) indoctrinate with a military or any other doctrine and it becomes accepted and practised by many, a religion it becomes.

You will find that there is a general problem with defining the word religion, which is why understanding must grow.

budaatum:



The bold is true. A doctrine that is not religiously propagated is just a doctrine. But if I religiously (with consistent and conscientious regularity) indoctrinate with a military or any other doctrine and it becomes accepted and practised by many, a religion it becomes.

You will find that there is a general problem with defining the word religion, which is why understanding must grow.

Every doctrine is propagated. I think you are a smart guy but your only problem here is your definitions.

tctrills:

Every doctrine is propagated.......your only problem here is your definitions

The difference is in the how. I may propagate a doctrine religiously, whereby I consistently and with conscientious regularity repeat it till you accept and believe it.

But since I do not want you to agree with me (see my "do not believe" above), I am not indoctrinating you into my "religion", or rather, my understanding.

The word "religion" is problematic to define, you will find.

budaatum:


The difference is in the how. I may propagate a doctrine religiously, whereby I consistently and with conscientious regularity repeat it till you accept and believe it.

But since I do not want you to agree with me (see my "do not believe" above), I am not indoctrinating you into my "religion", or rather, my understanding.

The word "religion" is problematic to define, you will find.

That's your opinion and respect it

tctrills:

That's your opinion and respect it

I'd be trying to deceive you with lies if I claimed it wasn't my opinion. And I'd also be claiming I can not think for myself if it were the opinion of someone else. Therefore, your respect, though not sought, is very highly appreciated and reciprocated.

budaatum:


I'd be trying to deceive you with lies if I claimed it wasn't my opinion. And I'd also be claiming I can not think for myself if it were the opinion of someone else. Therefore, your respect, though not sought, is very highly appreciated and reciprocated.

Merci

tctrills:

China isn't religious yet their masseshave been prevented from rising up against their oppressors.
With or without religion the ruling class would continue to oppress.

Succinct.

The ruling class will always find something to oppress.

Kalatium:


Succinct.

The ruling class will always find something to oppress.

That's my point. With or without religion, people would be suppressed

whatever

Kalatium:


Succinct.

The ruling class will always find something to oppress.

How are Chinese citizens being oppressed?
CC;TCTRILLS

fredwill1357:
How are the Chinese citizens being oppressed?

Ask the person who made the main comment. I only affirm to his statement.

Kalatium:

Ask the person who made the main comment. I only affirm to his statement.

I am interested to hear your views, how are Chinese citizens being oppressed?