Just as the title says, i am obliged to ask this question.


Though i was born into a Christian home and all members of my family and extended families are Christians. But i have ceased being a Christian for some time now and haven't attended any church in years.

This is because i have decided after careful and time-taken investigation of religion that it is a tool invented to manipulate man and keep him from using his brain. The stories in the bible that fails every form of integrity test as well as the many actions of bible characters that clearly shows immorality, unrighteousness as well as falsehood which was not reprimanded by the bible God put paid to my leaving Christianity and by extension any form of religion that has the Adam and Eve creation bruhaha.

Away from this, why did i say Christianity is failing Nigeria?
Aside from the spiritual aspects of Christianity which many adherents claim to be benefitting from, the religion is very important as a group to help balance the secularism of Nigeria.
In this area, Christianity has been failing woefully over the years.

The other major religion in Nigeria aside Christianity is islam. Over the years , islam has been expanding and crossing the boundary of secularism in Nigeria because Christians have become docile and politically asleep.

Majority of Nigerian Christians practice the i dont care attitude or say they are liberal Christians who wouldn't force their religion on you. But what about islam? Non-Muslims especially Christians in the North have become endangered species. Whole Christians community have been wiped out and replaced with muslim leaders and traditional rulers.
Sharia courts have been operating in Northern states in a supposed secular Nigeria.

One fact about islam is that, whenever its adherents are minority in a place, they are cool-headed, obey secular laws and are liberal.
But when a place is dominated by islam, it is hell on earth for the minority that are not Muslims. They are either forced to convert or are killed.

Now we are seeing a dangerous trend in Nigeria where only muslims are fit to occupy top political positions. Christians and Non-Muslims are being relegated from leadership positions.

This is where Christianity is failing. With the numbers of Christians in Nigeria, it should be able to checkmate this islamazation that is gradually eroding Nigeria's secularism.

I pray it doesn't take too long for Christians to realize this.It may be too dangerous to correct.

Embrace peace and stop creating divisions.

sotall:

I pray it doesn't take too long for Christians to realize this.It may be too dangerous to correct.

Too Dangerous to correct??
Many are called ..few are chosen...there is a reason that scripture exist.....there is nothing to correct ...he who has hear let him hear, repent, and walk in obidience to christ..

advanceDNA:


Too Dangerous to correct??
Many are called ..few are chosen...there is a reason that scripture exist.....there is nothing to correct ...he who has hear let him hear, repent, and walk in obidience to christ..

Yes many Christians who believe this text you quoted are no more because they refuse to take action while the opportunity was still there.

You think your God will come down from heaven and play physical politics on your behalf?

You think your God will save you when laws are made that will stop you from practicing your religion are made by people of other faiths?

This is 21st century delusion

sotall:


Yes many Christians who believe this text you quoted are no more because they refuse to take action while the opportunity was still there.

You think your God will come down from heaven and play physical politics on your behalf?

You think your God will save you when laws are made that will stop you from practicing your religion are made by people of other faiths?

This is 21st century delusion

I dint think all u are assuming...u are just jumping into whateva conclusions u like....

U assumed the christian faith is failing... i only let u know faith remains the same...only humans fail which was inevitable as the world becomes more flesh-driven..

although poverty, tricks and foolishness was used to bring xtianity to Africa, religion is not too conducive with the area... so much hunger/poverty/sadness/evil and negativity, thus it takes so long before people realize that them prayers dont work.

advanceDNA:


I dint think all u are assuming...u are just jumping into whateva conclusions u like....

U assumed the christian faith is failing... i only let u know faith remains the same...only humans fail which was inevitable as the world becomes more flesh-driven..

This aint an assumption. Maybe you need to go back and read and this time more carefully. Take note of the examples of instances as well.

A country like Nigeria with a large Christian and Non-Muslims followers shouldn't be dominated by islam the way we are currently seeing it.
Islam doesn't respect secularism which Nigeria needs to survive.

sotall:


This aint an assumption. Maybe you need to go back and read and this time more carefully. Take note of the examples of instances as well.

A country like Nigeria with a large Christian and Non-Muslims followers shouldn't be dominated by islam the way we are currently seeing it.
Islam doesn't respect secularism which Nigeria needs to survive.

U have a weird way of dialoging.... whats ur point...?? What is my point??

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sotall:
Just as the title says, i am obliged to ask this question.


Though i was born into a Christian home and all members of my family and extended families are Christians. But i have ceased being a Christian for some time now and haven't attended any church in years.

This is because i have decided after careful and time-taken investigation of religion that it is a tool invented to manipulate man and keep him from using his brain. The stories in the bible that fails every form of integrity test as well as the many actions of bible characters that clearly shows immorality, unrighteousness as well as falsehood which was not reprimanded by the bible God put paid to my leaving Christianity and by extension any form of religion that has the Adam and Eve creation bruhaha.

Away from this, why did i say Christianity is failing Nigeria?
Aside from the spiritual aspects of Christianity which many adherents claim to be benefitting from, the religion is very important as a group to help balance the secularism of Nigeria.
In this area, Christianity has been failing woefully over the years.

The other major religion in Nigeria aside Christianity is islam. Over the years , islam has been expanding and crossing the boundary of secularism in Nigeria because Christians have become docile and politically asleep.

Majority of Nigerian Christians practice the i dont care attitude or say they are liberal Christians who wouldn't force their religion on you. But what about islam? Non-Muslims especially Christians in the North have become endangered species. Whole Christians community have been wiped out and replaced with muslim leaders and traditional rulers.
Sharia courts have been operating in Northern states in a supposed secular Nigeria.

One fact about islam is that, whenever its adherents are minority in a place, they are cool-headed, obey secular laws and are liberal.
But when a place is dominated by islam, it is hell on earth for the minority that are not Muslims. They are either forced to convert or are killed.

Now we are seeing a dangerous trend in Nigeria where only muslims are fit to occupy top political positions. Christians and Non-Muslims are being relegated from leadership positions.

This is where Christianity is failing. With the numbers of Christians in Nigeria, it should be able to checkmate this islamazation that is gradually eroding Nigeria's secularism.

I pray it doesn't take too long for Christians to realize this.It may be too dangerous to correct.

Christianity is not failing Nigeria, you're the one failing yourself. Just check yourself very well

Jerryhare:


Christianity is not failing Nigeria, you're the one failing yourself. Just check yourself very well

Kiss the truth

sotall:
Just as the title says, i am obliged to ask this question...

Christianity is not failing, it is you people who are destroying your own selves more and more exactly as Christianity forewarned and is always warning.

But as usual with all God's things, only a few will listen.

And secondly, you were never a Christian, you were just a church goer.

Dtruthspeaker:


Christianity is not failing, it is you people who are destroying your own selves more and more exactly as Christianity forewarned and is always warning.

But as usual with all God's things, only a few will listen.

And secondly, you were never a Christian, you were just a church goer.

Religiously-brainwashed fellows like you will never see things objectively but will rather attack the messenger than use your brain to see facts.

Most of you practicing this Abrahamic Religions are deluded especially Christians.

I sighted examples of the areas Christianity as a group is supposed to be checkmating islam, your brainwashed brain think i am attacking Christianity.

sotall:

I sighted examples of the areas Christianity as a group is supposed to be checkmating islam, your brainwashed brain think i am attacking Christianity.

You are just talking shit, because you are afraid of Islam.

Face them and attack them with everything you used to attack Christianity.

Turn your eyes and start converting Muslims to your atheism, so that you can feel safe.

Leave us out of it, after all, Christianity is not a political/Islamic resistant movement, after all you people say we are weak, so we have no value to your anti Islamic campaign.

False religions will always fail in the midst of humans because it has nothing to do with God whose predominant quality is LOVE! 1John 4:8

Dtruthspeaker:


You are just talking shit, because you are afraid of Islam.

Face them and attack them with everything you used to attack Christianity.

Turn your eyes and start converting Muslims to your atheism, so that you can feel safe.

Leave us out of it, after all, Christianity is not a political/Islamic resistant movement, after all you people say we are weak, so we have no value to your anti Islamic campaign.

Someone with a myopic mentality like you shouldn't be on this thread and even quoting me.

Nigeria as a country needs to remain secular and liberal and many Nigerian citizens share this same opinion like myself.

If you think otherwise, craw back into your shit hole and dont bother responding here.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are just talking shit, because you are afraid of Islam.

Face them and attack them with everything you used to attack Christianity.

Turn your eyes and start converting Muslims to your atheism, so that you can feel safe.

Leave us out of it, after all, Christianity is not a political/Islamic resistant movement, after all you people say we are weak, so we have no value to your anti Islamic campaign.

Someone with a myopic mentality like you shouldn't be on this thread and even quoting me.

Nigeria as a country needs to remain secular and liberal and many Nigerian citizens share this same opinion like myself.

If you think otherwise, craw back into your shit hole and dont bother responding here.

sotall:


Someone with a myopic mentality like you shouldn't be on this thread and even quoting me.

Nigeria as a country needs to remain secular and liberal and many Nigerian citizens share this same opinion like myself.

If you think otherwise, craw back into your shit hole and dont bother responding here.

See noisemaker! Go and stop your fear of islamization with your crazed rants and insults.

sotall:

This is because i have decided after careful and time-taken investigation of religion that it is a tool invented to manipulate man and keep him from using his brain.

Not true. Christianity is a religion with a book. A book you must mature enough to read and grow to understand, which makes the book a tool to exercise your brain on so you know how to use it better.

As chewing stick is to teeth, so is Bible to brain.

sotall:
The other major religion in Nigeria aside Christianity is islam. Over the years , islam has been expanding and crossing the boundary of secularism in Nigeria because Christians have become docile and politically asleep.

I do agree that Islam is going through a renaissance while Christianity is in its twilight, but believe that is because of the increase in the availability of the Qur'an in local languages, while Christian youths are into xbox and playstation and mobiles and porn and not so much into reading the Bible.

sotall:
But when a place is dominated by islam, it is hell on earth for the minority that are not Muslims. They are either forced to convert or are killed.

I wonder if this is true in most cases.

sotall:
Now we are seeing a dangerous trend in Nigeria where only muslims are fit to occupy top political positions. Christians and Non-Muslims are being relegated from leadership positions.

I myself can not say I see any such trend, but if true, the smarter rule the ignorant, and I don't think Christians read anymore.

Just listen to your very own self.

sotall:
The stories in the bible that fails every form of integrity test as well as the many actions of bible characters that clearly shows immorality, unrighteousness as well as falsehood which was not reprimanded by the bible God put paid to my leaving Christianity and by extension any form of religion that has the Adam and Eve creation bruhaha.

You saying the writers did not write it right? Now, isn't that amazing. But If you never had a book from which you now judge God, your mind would never have developed so much that you can judge a whole religion, and your society, and most especially yourself, and end up doing greater things than He did.

SHARIA IS WINNING.

RUGA, ISLAMISATION FULANISATION AND ANARCHY, RIFA, IS WINNING.

CHRISTIANS ARE FAILING IN THINKING AND REASONING. THEY SEE BUT DON'T PERCEIVE ANY MORE. THERE ARE MORE CON ARTISTS NOWADAYS.

NIGERIANS ARE BECOMING TIGHTER, NO FREEDOM, NO DIVISION OF LABOUR, DECENTRALIZATION AND GIVING ROOMS TO OTHERS TO FEEL THINK AND REASON. IT IS ALL TRIBALISM, SELFISHNESS AND TRICKERY.
NIGERIA SHOULD ADOPT FAPRES AND CTTRFG NOW.

IT'S TBT, TURKISH BASTARD TECHNIQUE.

budaatum:



I myself can not say I see any such trend, but if true, the smarter rule the ignorant, and I don't think Christians read anymore.

This was your reply to my assertion that Nigeria's political space is being intentionally dominated by muslims while Christians are relegated.

Though i feel this is a deliberate falsehood from you denying the obvious Mr Budaatum. But then i will give you the benefit of doubt that you aint aware of the religious dominance that is eating up the secularism of Nigeria.

Now i will ask you quickly go through the cabinet members of the outgoing president of Nigeria right from when he was elected in 2015.
Compare this with former administrations of Obasanjo and Goodluck Jonathan.

budaatum:




You saying the writers did not write it right? Now, isn't that amazing. But If you never had a book from which you now judge God, your mind would never have developed so much that you can judge a whole religion, and your society, and most especially yourself, and end up doing greater things than He did.

Never said the writers of the bible didn't write it right.
And i never judged Christianity using a book, rather i reject the concept of God projected through Christianity and her similar religions.

My idea of who God is differs from what is written in the bible. I am a living example of a human made by God and hence i would rather believe in a God whose nature is in agreement with the life i see and experience than follow what was written by another man.

sotall:


This was your reply to my assertion that Nigeria's political space is being intentionally dominated by muslims while Christians are relegated.

Though i feel this is a deliberate falsehood from you denying the obvious Mr Budaatum. But then i will give you the benefit of doubt that you aint aware of the religious dominance that is eating up the secularism of Nigeria.

Now i will ask you quickly go through the cabinet members of the outgoing president of Nigeria right from when he was elected in 2015.
Compare this with former administrations of Obasanjo and Goodluck Jonathan.

I expect that if we elect a person of a particular tribe or religion, that person will form a cabinet predominantly made up of people of the elected person's tribe or religion.

And I expect this because I am aware that "secularism of Nigeria" is a myth and we Nigerians are not secular. We are religious. And tribal.

If you elect buda, buda's cabinet will be made up predominantly of those who disbelieve like buda.

budaatum:


I expect that if we elect a person of a particular tribe or religion, that person will form a cabinet predominantly made up of people of the elected person's tribe or religion.

And I expect this because I am aware that "secularism of Nigeria" is a myth and we Nigerians are not secular. We are religious. And tribal.

If you elect buda, buda's cabinet will be made up predominantly of those who disbelieve like buda.

Then the idea of bringing so many tribes and religions to form a country is defeated.

The constitution of the country that talks about federal character is sham. And the Nigeria's motto that says unity and progress is a charade.

sotall:

Never said the writers of the bible didn't write it right.
And i never judged Christianity using a book, rather i reject the concept of God projected through Christianity and her similar religions.

So, you are judging Christianity by the Christians around you when you say "The stories in the bible that fails every form of integrity test...."?

And you "reject the concept of God projected through Christianity".....?

Now that first is judging the finger instead of the moon the finger points to, while the second is a sign of growth and development and independent mind use and indication of your evolution from stupid ignorant enslaved Adam to use her own senses freed from slavery live very very long become self employed populate the earth Eve, and one day you just might evolve into God's Image.

sotall:

My idea of who God is differs from what is written in the bible. I am a living example of a human made by God and hence i would rather believe in a God whose nature is in agreement with the life i see and experience than follow what was written by another man.

You do not believe, that is very clear. And you are wise enough to create your own God in your own Image, just as the writers created (wrote down) their God in their own images in the stories they wrote and which you do not believe and because you use your mind, though you think you did not learn this from reading the Bible, lol.

Regardless, sotall, and therefore. Your learning has made you comprehend, though subconsciously it seems, that Ye are God and a Child of the Most High. And your mission, should you choose to accept it, is below.

sotall:


Then the idea of bringing so many tribes and religions to form a country is defeated.

No it is not. See below why we are created differently.

sotall:
The constitution of the country that talks about federal character is sham. And the Nigeria's motto that says unity and progress is a charade.

No they are not sham, and charade. Least not all of us. In fact, some of us still sing Nigeria we hail thee. The labour of our heroes past shall never be in vain, before we Arise o' Compatriot and Pledge to Nigeria my Country, not because we believe it but because we aim to fulfil it so it becomes factually true.

To some of us, they are words that are meant for us to read and gain an understanding thereof so we may aspire to fulfil our understanding in the long run just as eternal life is fulfillingly gained only after the end of our labour and when we are too dead to benefit from it ourselves.

budaatum:


No it is not. See below why we are created differently.


No they are not sham, and charade. Least not all of us. In fact, some of us still sing Nigeria we hail thee. The labour of our heroes past shall never be in vain, before we Arise o' Compatriot and Pledge to Nigeria my Country, not because we believe it but because we aim to fulfil it so it becomes factually true.

To some of us, they are words that are meant for us to read and gain an understanding thereof so we may aspire to fulfil our understanding in the long run just as eternal life is fulfillingly gained only after the end of our labour and when we are too dead to benefit from it ourselves.

To read and sing it is one thing but the reality facing you is different. Of what use is "unity" written in words when the country is divided along multiple lines?

Secondly, seems you are really inspired by texts from Abrahamic religions as you always back up your opinions with them.

But i say to you Budaatum, why not try to experience the the human-God consciousness the writers of these books experienced thousands of years ago? And then you can write down the nature of your God and his will for mankind.
I am very sure what you will write down will be significantly different from what you currently read in the bible and Quran.