According to the scriptures there is none among the servants of God that celebrated his birth we only read about Pharaoh of Egypt and Herod Antipas both are pagans! Genesis 20:40 and Matthew 14:6

Solomon said the day of death is more important than the day of birth {Ecclesiastes 7:1} prophet Jeremiah cursed the day he was born {Jeremiah 20:14} so when Jesus became popular among the Jews he never abandoned the heritage God's prophets laid down rather he continued with the tradition {Matthew 5:17} that's why many Jews concluded that he must be Jeremiah who detests the day of birth! Matthew 16:13-14

As Christians the one and only role model we should copy is Jesus Christ, his parents never celebrated his birthday, he never did neither did his disciples marked it after him but they kept doing something in remembrance of Jesus: the day of his death which he COMMANDED them to keep doing! Luke 22:19

Just last week his (true) disciples all over the earth marked his remembrance on the 4th of April.

So if someone asks me which is more important between the date of birth and date of death i would have chosen the one that i myself would love to be there as the celebrant but because i'm dead to the flesh but living in the spirit for my Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus i will say it's the date of death that's most important as my Lord has said both in thought word and action.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

AgentNairaland:


Real as son of God that covers not his face under a veil like your spider man

What/ who is God if I may ask,

Before we can start asking if it/he/she can impregnate a woman?

Why does God need a son for?

Tboy222:


Psalm 16:10 " For you will not leave my soul in Hell neither will you suffer your holy One to see corruption."

How is this Psalm about jesus...?

AgentNairaland:


Ok, had it been he was not born will there be anything called the work of salvation?

God already provided all that in the old testament...

Tboy222:


No he came to die for us.the reason for his birth was to die.and guess what? He couldn't have died as God without being born as man.

Would you accept to go to prison for 3years for a crime I commited ?

If the police arrested you and the judge sentenced you to prison for a crime I commited, what would you do?

MaxInDHouse:
According to the scriptures there is none among the servants of God that celebrated his birth we only read about Pharaoh of Egypt and Herod Antipas both are pagans! Genesis 20:40 and Matthew 14:6

Solomon said the day of death is more important than the day of birth {Ecclesiastes 7:1} prophet Jeremiah cursed the day he was born {Jeremiah 20:14} so when Jesus became popular among the Jews he never abandoned the heritage God's prophets laid down rather he continued with the tradition {Matthew 5:17} that's why many Jews concluded that he must be Jeremiah who detests the day of birth! Matthew 16:13-14

As Christians the one and only role model we should copy is Jesus Christ, his parents never celebrated his birthday, he never did neither did his disciples marked it after him but they kept doing something in remembrance of Jesus: the day of his death which he COMMANDED them to keep doing! Luke 22:19

Just last week his (true) disciples all over the earth marked his remembrance on the 4th of April.

So if someone asks me which is more important between the date of birth and date of death i would have chosen the one that i myself would love to be there as the celebrant but because i'm dead to the flesh but living in the spirit for my Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus i will say it's the date of death that's most important as my Lord has said both in thought word and action.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Is April 4 in the Bible, why remembering his death on this day?

sonmvayina:


God already provided all that in the old testament...

Good, including his birth too was provided in the old testament but without his birth can there be salvation?

sonmvayina:


What/ who is God if I may ask,
Before we can start asking if it/he/she can impregnate a woman?
Why does God need a son for?

You're deviating to another bone of contention, stay on the track established

Tboy222:


No he came to die for us.the reason for his birth was to die.and guess what? He couldn't have died as God without being born as man.

But his birth comes first isn't it? Can't we give it to what comes first?

But he died as God, he himself said I and my father are one

AgentNairaland:

Is April 4 in the Bible, why remembering his death on this day?

The Jews don't follow the Roman calendar that the whole world is using, their calendar differs.

It's on the 14th of Nisan according to the Jewish calendar which is the same date Moses told the Israelites to kill the Passover lamb that Jesus offered himself, going by that calendar the date fell on April 4th of Roman calendar!

AgentNairaland:


You're deviating to another bone of contention, stay on the track established

Which is that Jesus is a fictional character..created by Rome to deceive gullible people...
And you fell for it.....I am trying to free you from the scam, but you are holding on to the chains around your neck..

AgentNairaland:


Good, including his birth too was provided in the old testament but without his birth can there be salvation?

If you can show me jesus in the old testament I will wire you 10k before evening. I give you now till 7pm..

MaxInDHouse:


The Jews don't follow the Roman calendar that the whole world is using, their calendar differs.

It's on the 14th of Nisan according to the Jewish calendar which is the same date Moses told the Israelites to kill the Passover lamb that Jesus offered himself, going by that calendar the date fell on April 4th of Roman calendar!

It is through Jewish calendar that others arrived at April 4 isn't it?

AgentNairaland:



But his birth comes first isn't it? Can't we give it to what comes first?

But he died as God, he himself said I and my father are one

He didn't die as God for it is impossible for God to die, He died as a man without blemish, a son of man and son of God ,a perfect sacrifice for humanity.

Tboy222:


He didn't die as God for it is impossible for God to die, He died as a man without blemish, a son of man and son of God ,a perfect sacrifice for humanity.

Did you remember in many verses and cases in the Bible, he refer to himself as God isn't it?

AgentNairaland:

It is through Jewish calendar that others arrived at April 4 isn't it?

YES! But can we concentrate on the topic of discussion?

Birth or Death of Christ which is more important?

sonmvayina:


Would you accept to go to prison for 3years for a crime I commited ?

If the police arrested you and the judge sentenced you to prison for a crime I commited, what would you do?

A lot of people have done that, during world war 11 a polish Christian took the place of a Jew at the concentration camps, infact countless christians were killed for protecting Jews.

AgentNairaland:



Did you remember in many verses and cases in the Bible, he refer to himself as God isn't it?

He referred to Himself as God for He is God in divine nature, the fact that He was in flesh couldn't nulify His identity.

That is why He is referred to as the Son of man, a God-man the perfect link between God and man.

Tboy222:


He referred to Himself as God for He is God in divine nature, the fact that He was in flesh couldn't nulify His identity.

That is why He is referred to as the Son of man, a God-man the perfect link between God and man.

He died as God in flesh, Yes or No?

MaxInDHouse:

YES! But can we concentrate on the topic of discussion?
Birth or Death of Christ which is more important?

As a Jehovah witnesses, why against Dec, 25 since you believe in April 4?

AgentNairaland:

As a Jehovah witnesses, why against Dec, 25 since you believe in April 4?

God bless you again and again and again for this thought provoking question!

According to the Bible Jesus wasn't born on the date that fell on Dec 25, God's servants never marked their birthdays, some of them spoke against birthdays, Jesus himself never marked his birthday, his parents never did when he was a child, his disciples never did after he left them and he COMMANDED them to mark the date of his death (not his birth)

So going by the command of Jesus himself April 4 2023 is worth commemorating this year than any other date because that's the date he commanded us to remember going by the Jewish calendar Nisan 14. Next year it may fall on another date but we must stick to the date as commanded by Jesus Christ! John 15:14

AgentNairaland:


He died as God in flesh, Yes or No?

Yes

sonmvayina:


How is this Psalm about jesus...?

The Holy One refered here is Jesus Christ.

MaxInDHouse:


God bless you again and again and again for this thought provoking question!

According to the Bible Jesus wasn't born on the date that fell on Dec 25, God's servants never marked their birthdays, some of them spoke against birthdays, Jesus himself never marked his birthday, his parents never did when he was a child, his disciples never did after he left them and he COMMANDED them to mark the date of his death (not his birth)

So going by the command of Jesus himself April 4 2023 is worth commemorating this year than any other date because that's the date he commanded us to remember going by the Jewish calendar Nisan 14. Next year it may fall on another date but we must stick to the date as commanded by Jesus Christ! John 15:14

If Jesus wasn't born on December 25 according to the Bible as you claimed, is he crucified on April 4 according to the same Bible as you claimed earlier?

Tboy222:


The Holy One refered here is Jesus Christ.

Psalm 16 is a mictham of David...

It was recited by David...

It is about David....

How did you figure it was about jesus?

Psalms are songs sung during services....they are not prophesies...

Tboy222:


A lot of people have done that, during world war 11 a polish Christian took the place of a Jew at the concentration camps, infact countless christians were killed for protecting Jews.

It is a direct question to you...

Would you do it....

And do you think it is a true reflection of justice ?

MaxInDHouse:


The Jews don't follow the Roman calendar that the whole world is using, their calendar differs.

It's on the 14th of Nisan according to the Jewish calendar which is the same date Moses told the Israelites to kill the Passover lamb that Jesus offered himself, going by that calendar the date fell on April 4th of Roman calendar!

What was the pass over lamb for?

Tboy222:


Yes

It is now clear that he died as God against what you said earlier that he didn't died as God

AgentNairaland:


It is now clear that he died as God against what you said earlier that he didn't died as God

It would be wrong to say He died as God , infact it is blasphemy to say He died as God because God can never die.

He took on the weakness of man to die as man in order to win the victory over death as man.

AgentNairaland:

If Jesus wasn't born on December 25 according to the Bible as you claimed, is he crucified on April 4 according to the same Bible as you claimed earlier?

According to the Jewish calendar YES!
That date (Nisan 14) fell on the 4th of April this year!

sonmvayina:

What was the pass over lamb for?

Foreshadow the ultimate sacrifice Jesus will perform with his own life!
The Israelites are to kill the lamb and use its blood to rub their doorpost so that the angel of death may spare them.
The same will happen when God's Kingdom comes because all those who don't have the seal of Jesus' blood will be slaughtered globally!

MaxInDHouse:


According to the Jewish calendar YES!
That date (Nisan 14) fell on the 4th of April this year!

As they arrived at April 4 for the remembrance of his dead is the same way they got Dec 25 for his birth with the help of Jewish calendar that is the 14th of Nisan (the day of crucifixion according to John) which is equivalent to March 25 in Roman solar calendar and from March 25 to December 25 is Nine months