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How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:39am On Apr 09, 2023
How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church

If there's anything humans fear more than anything else, it is death, and it wasn't much different with the apostles of Christ.

The first time Jesus revealed to them that He would be killed and suffer many things in the hands of men, it brought much apprehension to His apostles.

Peter himself started rebuking Jesus out of fear.

Matthew 16:22 (KJV)

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

Such was the kind of response that greeted His saying about His imminent sufferings and death to His disciples to illustrate how shocked they were by it. No wonder Jesus didn't tell them early on when they first began following Him, but waited until much later when they had become more rooted and grounded in the things of God and in His Word, otherwise some of them may have taken off and already forsaken Him a long time ago.

They wished He was just playing with them though, but Jesus wasn't playing with them at all. It was getting to the business end of things, so things were getting more serious than ever, hence Jesus had to make them know that play time was over.

It was now time to get down to some serious business of the Kingdom so they needed to sit up or be left behind.

Matthew 16:24-25 (KJV)

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.


Hence Jesus made them realize that they needed to be prepared to die if need be for His sake.

One thing though about Jesus which made Him the greatest teacher there ever was, was His leadership style.

He led disciples by example so when He tells them to humble themselves and let the greatest become as a servant, He would use Himself as an example, hence even when it came to dying for the sake of the Kingdom of God, He didn't only preach it with His mouth, He gave them an example with His own life.

His example I believe inspired more than anything else the kind of selfless and sacrificial lives His disciples went on to live afterwards for His sake, because if Jesus being their Master could humble Himself to the extent of laying down His life for His sheep, how much more they His servants?

So it wasn't surprising that the same disciples who initially forsook Him and fled for their dear lives, when He was about to arrested and be killed as He had said to them, were the ones who after His death and resurrection would be making mockery of the threat of death, as such that it could no longer be useful to stop them from preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom.

They preached the Gospel of Christ or died trying.

God bless.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:39am On Apr 09, 2023
The deaths of the apostles, who were killed because of their faith, were also observed to have significantly impacted the early church, because instead of the church imploding or falling apart as a result, as was expected by their enemies, it was having the opposite result, as the church kept exploding and gaining even more grounds.

It was so extraordinary, it got to the point killing them became a foolish thing to do, because it was clearly becoming counterproductive to the plans of those who wanted to destroy the church, hence they had to restrategize.

That's how the early church was able to defy the great Roman empire regardless of whatever it threw at it, especially death.

Unfortunately such inspiration can hardly be drawn from today's church leaders, when it comes to dying for Christ' sake where need be, as most of them feel too big or important to suffer not to talk of dying for the sake of Christ, so how much more their followers?

Perhaps the church today needs some of her most prominent church leaders to be persecuted and killed as it was in the early church, for it to wake up to the realization that the kingdom business was not a joke but a very serious one, that may require one to lose his life for the sake of Christ to save it.

God bless.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 7:50am On Apr 09, 2023
The Great Roman Empire made Christianity a state religion, do you think without them Christianity would have spread through europe?
Do you think without them Christianity, Knight Templars and Crusaders would have strived?

You probably won’t be a Christian if Christianity was not made a state religion.
Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:04am On Apr 09, 2023
Maynman:
The Great Roman Empire made Christianity a state religion, do you think without them Christianity would have spread through europe?
Do you think without them Christianity, Knight Templars and Crusaders would have strived?

You probably won’t be a Christian if Christianity was not made a state religion.
Yeah... After trying everything they possibly could to destroy the church to no avail.

They had to accept the fact that the church was here to stay and there was nothing they could do to prevail against it, so that was just a way of admitting defeat in their plans to destroy the church.

By the way, the church was already spreading far and wide with or without their help, so they only joined the winning team since they couldn't beat them.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 8:06am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Yeah... After trying everything they possibly could to destroy the church to no avail.

They had to accept the fact that the church was here to stay and there was nothing they could do to prevail against it, so that was just a way of admitting defeat in their plans to destroy the church.

By the way, the church was already spreading far and wide with or without their help, so they only joined the winning team since they couldn't beat them.

What did they do to destroy the church?
Which church was here to stay? In what century?
Do you think before roman empire, Christianity was a major religion?

Where did the church spread far and wide?
Even the New Testament you hold now, on whose order was it complied and created ?

Go look up the feats of Crusaders, without them, islam would have the only major religion.

You should be thanking the Roman empire, do you know how Big Roman Empire was and they chose Christianity as a state religion, do you know how Big that is?
Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:12am On Apr 09, 2023
Maynman:


What did they do to destroy the church?
Which church was here to stay? In what century?
Do you think before roman empire, Christianity was a major religion?

Where did the church spread far and wide?
Even the New Testament you hold now, on whose order was it complied and created ?

Go look up the feats of Crusaders, without them, islam would have the only major religion.

You should be thanking the Roman empire, do you know how Big Roman Empire was and they chose Christianity as a state religion, do you know how Big that is?
You obviously don't want to believe the obvious truth for obvious reasons. Go and enquire about how the early Christians defied the Roman empire from historians.

I should be thanking God who made His church to achieve the impossible against the Roman empire without physical weapons.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 8:14am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
You obviously don't want to believe the obvious truth for obvious reasons. Go and enquire about how the early Christians defied the Roman empire from historians.

Tell me the books you read or the name of historians where you did your own research on Roman Empire.
Let’s see who lacks the knowledge of your religion.

What did they do to destroy the church?
Which church was here to stay? In what century?
Do you think before roman empire, Christianity was a major religion?
Where did the church spread far and wide?
Even the New Testament you hold now, on whose order was it complied and created ?
Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:17am On Apr 09, 2023
Maynman:


Tell me the books you read or the name of historians where you did your own research on Roman Empire.
Let’s see who lacks the knowledge of your religion.
Oh I see you're the only one that doesn't know this. Google is there to help you man if you sincerely want to learn the truth.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 8:18am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Oh I see you're the only one that doesn't know this. Google is there to help you man if you sincerely want to learn the truth.

There’s no where on google that says christian defied Roman Empire. Send me a link where you read yours if you are sincere with yourself and you are not lying to defend your religion.
Tell me the books you read or the name of historians where you did your own research on Roman Empire.
Let’s see who lacks the knowledge of your religion.
Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:27am On Apr 09, 2023
Maynman:


There’s no where on google that says christian defied Roman Empire. Send me a link where you read yours if you are sincere with yourself and you are not lying to defend your religion.
Tell me the books you read or the name of historians where you did your own research on Roman Empire.
Let’s see who lacks the knowledge of your religion.
This information is the public domain so it's strange how you are not aware of it despite claiming to know much about the early Christians and church.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 8:35am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
This information is the public domain so it's strange how you are not aware of it despite claiming to know much about the early Christians and church.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire

Where in that link did they say christians “defied” roman empire.
Also from 1st century to 4th century, where did Christianity spread “far and wide to?”
Your New Testament you read now was written and complied in what century?

Not to forget, king nero was persecuting Chrestians.
https://www.nairaland.com/7475870/chrestians-started-fire-rome

Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:03am On Apr 09, 2023
Maynman:


Where in that link did they say christians “defied” roman empire.
Also from 1st century to 4th century, where did Christianity spread far and wide to?
Lol! Except you don't know it means to 'defy' the Roman empire, otherwise that link should suffice to prove that to you.

You're speaking of a people that suffered persecution from the Roman empire for a prolonged period under different empires, because of their faith which went against the traditions, laws and official religion of the Romans, but didn't give in until the Roman empire embraced their own religion officially.

That's defiance man except you're just seeking for the actual word.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 9:05am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Lol! Except you don't know it means to 'defy' the Roman empire, otherwise that link should suffice to prove that to you.

You're speaking of a people that suffered persecution from the Roman empire for a prolonged period under different empires, because of their faith which went against the traditions, laws and official religion of the Romans, but didn't give in until the Roman empire embraced their own religion officially.

That's defiance man except you're just seeking for the actual word.
Please screenshot the part where “defy” suffice in the link.
Do you think Roman Empire targeted Christianity only or any religion apart from the ones Roman worshipped?
Also from 1st century to 4th century, where did Christianity spread far and wide to?

So it was only Christianity they were persecuting, and because of the persecuting they made Christianity a State Religion? Lol

From your same link.

Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:13am On Apr 09, 2023
Maynman:

Please screenshot the part where “defy” suffice in the link.
Do you think Roman Empire targeted Christianity only or any religion apart from the ones Roman worshipped?

So it was only Christianity they were persecuting, and because of the persecuting they made Christianity a State Religion? Lol

From your same link.
Were they persecuted to leave their faith or not and did they succumb to the persecution? If not, that's defiance my friend.

If they had not defied the full military might of the Roman empire in persecution, but succumbed, the Romans would have never embraced Christianity as their official religion.

Their act of defiance was factorial in that outcome as it was a feat that confounded the Romans.

If you still can't accept the obvious truth even with historical evidence then I can't help you.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 9:17am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Were they persecuted to leave their faith or not and did they succumb to the persecution? If not, that's defiance my friend.

If they had not defied the full military might of the Roman empire in persecution, but succumbed, the Romans would have never embraced Christianity as their official religion.

Their act of defiance was factorial in that outcome as it was a feat that confounded the Romans.

If you still can't accept the obvious truth even with historical evidence then I can't help you.

Where in the link did they say Roman Empire Miltary persecuted Christians?

It was Nero that made Christianity a state religion, and all the doctrines you have in it is from Nero.
Not to forget Christianity comes from CHRESTIANITY

Was it only Christianity they were persecuting, and didn’t succumb?
Why didn’t they make other religion state religion?

Your link is different from what you are saying here and I’ve been asking you from 1st century to 4th century, where did Christianity spread far and wide to?
Without Roman Empire, Christianity would have died out.
Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 9:18am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:

If you still can't accept the obvious truth even with historical evidence then I can't help you.

Historical evidence of what?
When was New Testament written and complied, was it before or after Christianity was made a state religion?
Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by TradingGod: 9:26am On Apr 09, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Lol! Except you don't know it means to 'defy' the Roman empire, otherwise that link should suffice to prove that to you.

You're speaking of a people that suffered persecution from the Roman empire for a prolonged period under different empires, because of their faith which went against the traditions, laws and official religion of the Romans, but didn't give in until the Roman empire embraced their own religion officially.

That's defiance man except you're just seeking for the actual word.


Mark 6:11 "If you're not welcomed, not listened to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene. Shrug your shoulders and be on your way."


Please stop giving attention to unbelievers that have a harden hearth, only the Holy Spirit can convert this type of people because no matter the amount of truth you give them, they will still find way to argue

It's very pointless waisting your time with unbelievers that does not want to listen because their heart are heardend already

Just preach Your message to those it was meant for and ignore the trolls

Even when our Lord Jesus was on earth, he also had trolls (scribes and Pharisees) that refused to see the truth no matter what.

Just ignore them and pass your message. SHALLOM

Happy Easter my Brother smiley

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:27am On Apr 09, 2023
Maynman:


Where in the link did they say Roman Empire Miltary persecuted Christians?

It was Nero that made Christianity a state religion, and all the doctrines you have in it is from Nero.
Not to forget Christianity comes from Nero.

Was it only Christianity they were persecuting, and didn’t succumb?
Why didn’t they make other religion state religion?

Your link is different from what you are saying here and I’ve been asking you from 1st century to 4th century, where did Christianity spread far and wide to?
Without Roman Empire, Christianity would have died out.
I can't see you're not serious, because it's become glaring you already know this is true but deliberately trying to deny it regardless, because it goes against your beliefs.

At least you can't deny the fact that the Christians were persecuted by the Roman empire to denounce their faith but didn't succumb to it, before the Roman empire embraced Christianity it religion. If you don't still accept that's defiance of the Roman empire, that's fine.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:32am On Apr 09, 2023
TradingGod:



Mark 6:11 "If you're not welcomed, not listened to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene. Shrug your shoulders and be on your way."


Please stop giving attention to unbelievers that have a harden hearth, only the Holy Spirit can convert this type of people because no matter the amount of truth you give them, they will still find way to argue

It's very pointless waisting your time with unbelievers that does not want to listen because their heart are heardend already

Just preach Your message to those it was meant for and ignore the trolls

Even when our Lord Jesus was on earth, he also had trolls (scribes and Pharisees) that refused to see the truth no matter what.

Just ignore them and pass your message. SHALLOM

Happy Easter my Brother smiley
Thanks for your concern but I don't always do that except where I deem it needful. It's not necessarily to convince them but for others viewers who could be misled by their lies. Thanks.

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by Maynman: 9:33am On Apr 09, 2023
In the Old Testament, didn’t your god commit genocides because other people worshipped different gods?

jesusjnr2020:
I can't see you're not serious, because it's become glaring you already know this is true but deliberately trying to deny it regardless, because it goes against your beliefs.

At least you can't deny the fact that the Christians were persecuted by the Roman empire to denounce their faith but didn't succumb to it, before the Roman empire embraced Christianity it religion. If you don't still accept that's defiance of the Roman empire, that's fine.

What exactly is true? That jesus didn’t exist?

No where in your link did they say Roman Empire were persecuted to denounce their faith.
No where in the link did they say because of persecution that was what made Roman empire to make Christianity a state religion.

Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by ItsReal: 9:34am On Apr 09, 2023
Oh, Christ worshipers! We want an answer to our question from your wise.

If the Lord was murdered by some people’s act…what sort of god is this?

We wonder! Was He pleased by what they did to Him? If yes,
blessed be they..they achieved the pleasure of His

But if He was discontented….this means their power subjugated His!!

Was the whole entity left without a Sustainer… so who answered the prayers?

Were the heavens vacated…when He laid under the ground somewheres?

Were all the worlds left without a God…to manage while His hands were nailed?

Why did not the angles help Him when they heard him while he wailed?

How could the rods stand to bear the True Lord when He was fastened

How could the iron reach Him and His body pinioned?

How could His enemies’ hands reach Him and slap His rear

And was Christ revived by himself…or the Reviver was another god?

What a sight it is!A grave that enclosed a god!
What’s more weird is the belly that had Him in it!

He stayed there for nine months in utter darkness…fed by blood!

Then he got out of the womb as a small baby,
weak and gaping to be breastfed!

He ate and drank, and did what that naturally resulted in
Is this a god??!!

High Exalted be Allah above the lies of Christians
All of them will be held accountable for their libels

Oh cross worshipers…for what reason is it exalted
and blamed who rejects it?

Is it not the logic to break and burn it along with the one who innovated it?

Since the Lord was crucified on it…and his hands were fastened to it?

That is really a cursed cross to carry…so discard it
Don’t kiss it!

The Lord was abused on it…and you adore it?
So you are one of His enemies!!

If you extol it because it carried the Lord of the worlds

why don’t you prostrate yourself and worship graves,

since the grave contained your god in it?

So, Christ worshiper, open your eyes,
this is what the matter is all about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNGGaY50ey8
Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:48am On Apr 16, 2023
Thank you Lord!

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Re: How The Death Of Christ Impacted The Early Church by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:07am On Apr 23, 2023
Amen.

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