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Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 8:12pm On Apr 30, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. Here's a direct question--- what do you mean when you say you walk in light? The Light as specified by Jesus Christ is God's Constitutional Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. So to say one lives by or walks according to Him means living one's life continues submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ--- John 8 vs 31 - 36 --- meaning one is in fact seeking first the Kingdom of God(holiness) as instructed by Jesus Christ. 2. And this is another problem. Notice how in the entirety of John 3 vs 1 - 21, Jesus Christ never once mentioned sin nor that those who are born-again no longer commit sin. Being born-again has nothing to do with sinlessness(holiness) nor does it infer one no longer has a sin debt. Rather, as Jesus Christ instead explained to be born again simply means one is born of water and born of spirit. And this along with the evidence of this Jesus Christ clearly reveals inthe context of John 3 vs 1 - 21. P.s. - All those who will have and end in Hellfire - eternal damnation-- will be born-agains as well. This is since Jesus Christ made clear that only born-agains can gain access into the Kingdom of God either through the Broad gate or the Narrow gate. And we know that the broad gate leads to destruction aka Hellfire - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 10:51pm On Apr 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:1. Is the statement 'I do not commit sin' somehow ambiguous? 2 I know every born again person/believer is a debtor I'm done arguing. Good night |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 11:08pm On Apr 30, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. It is ambiguous since I am not clear where your definitions of what amounts to sin come from. You need to fill me in as far as the standard of sin by which you proclaim you do not commit sin. 2. But are you aware though that not everyone remains a debtor as those who go on to seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness) and God's righteousness eventually clear up their sin debts in order to become righteous in the sight of God? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 6:38am On May 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Please explain 2 |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 2:09pm On May 01, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. We are all of us sinners when we first become born-again. However, those who then go on to seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness) and God's Righteousness... eventually find Holiness---sinlessness---a situation where their sin debt is all paid off). As Jesus Christ said, the only way to this is through continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - John 8 vs 31 - 37. If you don't alway know all of this, how exactly did you earn for yourself this status of sinlessness, the Holy Spirit and even the fruits of the Spirit which you claim to have? This scenario reads somewhat of an individual boasting of having a college degree without any real knowledge or works to back up the claim. |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 2:44pm On May 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:You're very particular about details and come off as a person who likes making others feel stupid/ignorant, so I'd rather not go into details about my conversion. Thanks for explaining. |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 2:54pm On May 01, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. Did you also notice that the details in question happen to be that stated by God Himself suggesting that I have nothing to do with how you feel in the end about this? Following all you have said so far as far as your "conversion", we have two scenarios ○ Your conversion is true and God is a Liar ○ Your conversion is indeed not of God as His Word remains two It can't be both, as you can obviously see. |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 3:13pm On May 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Okay |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 3:29pm On May 01, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. Look, it is easy to conclude that anyone who questions the veracity of your claims to a particular God is out to demean you in some way but the fact is I am not the least concerned about all of that as my focus remains on the Truth of God in this. Paul said of this, "Let God be true and all men liars!" All I have said on this is so you go back and review what you can to hold on against the Truth of God so you are at least certain that the God you serve is in fact the God of scripture, and not maybe Allah or the over 40000 others out there in the world. You cannot say you serve Jesus Christ when most everything you say contradicts His Truth in one way or another, right? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 3:43pm On May 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:How did I contradict His Truth? Because I didn't use your exact same words? A born-again person becomes a citizen of the kingdom of God and needs to do charity work while continuously meditating on the Word, as well as abstaining from breaking the commandments. Isn't that how one gets qualified to enter Heaven? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 3:48pm On May 01, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. What exact words would those be though? I didn't ask you for my exact words. Notice, I have only mentioned Jesus Christ's own teachings to you in this. 2. What charity work? Meditating on What word? Abstaining from breaking what commandments? 3. Not according to Jesus Christ, it ain't! See, you keep feeding me religious scripts — scripts you probably obtained from listening to the doctrines and traditions of mogs and pastors —, expecting me to somehow be pacified by that, why? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 3:54pm On May 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:SMH Okay, enlighten me all-knowing one What is God's Truth and how does a born-again person enter Heaven? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 3:59pm On May 01, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:Jesus Christ said to seek first the Kingdom of God(Holiness) and God's righteousness so that all these things— Heaven included— shall be added unto you. That is what He said we are all to do even as born-agains. So, do answer me then ■ What charity work? ■Meditating on What word? ■Abstaining from breaking what commandments? What have you been engaging in to render you able to no longer commit sin? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 6:00pm On May 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:In Matthew 25: 32-36, Jesus specifically told the 'sheep' gathered before him that they could enter God's Kingdom because of their charity work In your opinion how does one seek the Kingdom of God exactly? After I repented and accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour, I proceeded to ask for the Holy Spirit to come into me. I wasn't sinning before I asked, and I haven't sinned since then. Additionally, I carryout various activities to edify my soul on a daily basis. So tell me what I've been doing wrong all-knowing one |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 7:03pm On May 01, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. Those works are instead works done in righteousness which only those who are already first holy should bother doing; when such works are done while one is still unrighteous, one's sin taint all such works done rendering it filthy and hence an unacceptable abomination to God - Isaiah 64 vs 1 - 6. 2. Through knowing the truth-continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God. As Jesus Christ made clear it is by knowing the truth that one is then set free from slavery to sin by the Truth of God - John 8 vs 31 - 36. 3. What confirmation do you have that you are indeed born-again? 4. First, by what Law did you Judge your own sinlessness? Recall that sin is disobedience of God's commandments hence a transgression of His Law. Can you mention for instance particular sins which you no longer commit. Second, according to Jesus Christ,it is the Father who will give the Holy Spirit to those who He deems ready for it, meaning praying is not the decider. This since God does not answer the prayer of the unrighteous . Third, what about the first Helper? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 9:01pm On May 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Lol I'm tired of going in circles with you jare You're not a judge or one who can decide whether or not I'm saved. I know I'm on the right track. Shalom. |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 9:13pm On May 01, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:If you are on the right track as far as Jesus Christ then how come you don't seem to know the Truth as taught by Jesus Christ Himself? I think one of the most unfortunate would be tp spend one's life following the religions of men only to end up with nothing tangible to show for it even at the end, a fate that always many religious folks at the end. I keep asking why you don't currently have evidence beyond mere words because Jesus Christ Himself said all those who are born-again have undeniable evidence given to them when they are born of Spirit. |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ebonygeek(f): 7:56am On May 02, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Are you born of the Spirit? And if yes, what's your evidence? |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Kobojunkie: 8:10am On May 02, 2023 |
Ebonygeek:1. The evidence Jesus Christ said that everyone who is born of Spirit will have is that such a one would be as though possessed by the Spirit of Eternal Life -- the first Helper---, a power above the possessed individuals as He turns those born of Him whichever way He chooses - John 3 vs 8. Basically, if you are not possessed by the Spirit of Eternal Life, you are not born again. FYI, as far as what the Spirit of Eternal Life will cause one to do or subject one to, that is up to Him, however, Jesus Christ gives no indication whatsoever that He can initiate a transformation of a person's personality. Also, the Spirit of Eternal Life is NOT the Holy Spirit.-\ |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by torqque7(m): 4:56pm On May 08, 2023 |
Plenty mad people for this country sha |
Re: I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich by Ejyksneh(m): 4:18pm On Jul 01, 2023 |
You that looks like burnt sacrifice ahnie: |
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