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What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Victor0000001: 2:03am On Apr 15, 2023 |
Hello guys Please help me here before I faint. Due to the epileptic power supply in my area. I decided to invest in solar electricity. I already have an inverter(24v/1.5kva - luminous hybrid) and two quanta batteries(150mh). The pics are below. I must say, I have really enjoyed the inverter because there is always at least 4-6 hours electricty to charge it until NEPA in my area decided to go AWOL. Sometimes, we don't usually have power for 3-4 days, even a week, so I have always resorted in using a generator to charge the inverter until I decided I must go solar because of my fridge. NOTE: My fridge is LG inverter fridge, and it's just 60 watts. I called the inverter guy & we did a calculation of 4 brand new solar panels (250 watts each) because the inverter can only take 1000 watts) The guy came the following day with 3 used pannels (350 watts each), making 1050 watts & said the panels are even better than the new one. He said it's made in Japan & he can guarantee me that I will enjoy it. I trusted him. All I wanted was what would work for me, either new or old panel. The pics of the panel are also below. The guy installed it & I was enjoying it for 2 weeks because there was also NEPA power for almost 10 hours every day & the inverter charges with NEPA light because it can do double charging until NEPA decided to do as they would normally do, then I realised that my batteries don't charge well. I have an IOT timer that would on my fridge at 9am and put it off at 5pm. That faithful yesterday, I came back from work & I confirmed my fridge was off & the only thing that was on were three 10watts bulbs & at 11pm, the inverter was already beeping low battery. I thought I was dreaming, I studied it again today & it's the same problem. I also noticed that my inverter indicates that there is solar power as early as 6 am(the lights come on but don't blink) but starts charging at 9am, (thats when the light starts blinking). Then stops charging at 6pm ( the light stops blinking) till the light goes off around 7pm. I was able to watch from the video which I have also shared the link below that when the solar indicator is on for my type of luminous inverter, it indicate that solar energy is available but start to charge when it starts blinking. My questions are 1. Is the inverter designed that way? Is it some sort of smart intelligence because i am confused why it would behave like that even when the sun is already up at 8 and still up at 6:30pm? 2. Could the panels be bad & not charge the batteries well? The guy said he tested the voltage from the panel & it was around 35v each from one panel if I remember correctly & he had to even step it down. How am I supposed to know if he is saying he truth? 3. He said I should always put off the fridge at 3pm but I refused because that's the main reason I did the solar so my food won't get spoilt. The fridge is just 60 watts, even my fan is 72 watts. Why can't a solar panel of 1050 watts charge 2 batteries well. Even before the solar, if there is light & my batteries are well charged, my batteries will last 2 days & the fridge will be on for at least 4-6 hrs each for those 2 days. 4. He said he would bring a controller so that he would connect the solar directly to the batteries. Would that make any difference? Why can't a 1050 watts solar energy charge two150mh batteries well for 10hours? The only difference might be that charging will start at 8am & stops at 7pm which is plus 2 hrs charge & I see no reason why 10 my batteries can't be up to at least 50% for 10 hrs More so, the luminous inverter is hybrid & I feel it's well designed to do the controlling than most controllers out there 5. What is the solution? What can I do because I am really frustrated. I just spent 340k & I am not enjoying the benefits yet. I don't even turn on my TV, fan or anything since the solar installation except my fridge during the day & three 10 watts lights during the night including charging one laptop & one phone. And now, I might even consider to take all the food in the freezer to a friend's place because they have steady power supply. I can't let the food that will last me more than one week to get spoilt & I don't want to run generator all the time when I supposedly have solar. I want to tell him to come and remove the panels off my roof, but I want to make sure that it's not a panel issue because i am 100 percent certain my batteries are very good. Please, what can I do? I am not happy
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Victor0000001: 2:04am On Apr 15, 2023 |
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Victor0000001: 2:07am On Apr 15, 2023 |
other information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5JJb0LmFo&t=117s PS: there is good sun at my area these two days. is the life cycle of panels really 10 years?
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by PoliteActivist: 2:24am On Apr 15, 2023 |
Wow, just amazing how much knowledge one acquires about things like this just by living in Nigeria! OP you sound so informed about this - like every other Nigerian! |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Penuelseun(m): 6:36am On Apr 15, 2023 |
There is no way that fridge consumes 60w, from the sticker it consumes between 150w to 180w, you will also need a voltmeter to see the true voltage readings of the battery, I also don't think that your battery gets fully charged daily as your fridge is on for most of the day. Let the installer bring the charge controller to check things out first. I also see that you have a wattmeter, why don't you use that to see the true consumption of the fridge |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Bankowner: 7:37am On Apr 15, 2023 |
The moment a Nigerian technician or repair man tells you 1050watts will do a better job than the 1000watts designed by the white or chinese man, and you fall for it, just know you have bought trouble. The white or Chinese man who designed 1000watts solar panels knows why he made it 1000w and not 1050w. Our naija guys will do oversabi and end up overloading the components meant to support 1000w on the mentality that 1050w will deliver more output. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by uhuns: 11:18am On Apr 15, 2023 |
1, you seem so knowledgeable on the subject that its hard to believe you don't have Answers. But i may just spear my mb on the thread. 2. The spec on the panel isn't clear. 3. Its a 60 cell panel, doubt if you can juice out 330watt from it. I stand corrected on this. 4. Binatone and qasa have 10watt standing fan......ac/dc ...jumia . 5. Stop your fridge by 3pm. 6. Yes, effective solar charging starts 9 and ends 4pm in southern naija ...but i use 4hrs daily in my sunhours calculations.. personal to me.. 7. Your batteries are too small for long term usage. Good name but many fake out there. 8. Battery may be bad....too much fake.if so use tubular type. 9. I stand by your technician on external controller as testing application. 10. Endeavour to share finall solution. 11. Age of battery was not clear to me. 12. I hope that 5kva stabilizer isn't in the circuit?? 13. ☮️. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by uhuns: 11:21am On Apr 15, 2023 |
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by OLORIPAPA: 4:46pm On Apr 17, 2023 |
I don't know were to start from....but just follow me. I am not too sure of ur total load in your house but from my rough sketch according to ur explanation it's about 200w(according to what U said).And if it is so the battery is more than enough to carry the load at least 36hours if the batteries are still new and up to capacity. The panels U are using are extra bogus compared to the load and battery which is very ok.And since U said the panels are producing a reading of 35volts that means they are fine.. And also I would like to ask the type of panels he used whether it is poly or mono(though from the looks I feel it's mono which is ok...but ask him the type he used) Ask him how did he configure the panels series or parallel (it should be parallel) How did he configure the batteries series or parallel (I think he should configure in series) When connecting battery to inverter input he should tap directly from the batteries. I would like to ask you,after he connected the solar panels did U guys test it at least for a day without NEPA to see whether it worked fine? Is the panels well positioned to receive sunlight? I will add up if I discover any other thing,but I expect it reply |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by rottennaija(m): 8:17am On May 06, 2023 |
Victor0000001: I understand the problems. The fact is that with electricity from NEPA or generator, the system will charge faster and last long than just charging with panels with especially with your configuration of your fridge coming on by 9am going off by 5pm. So if you have a daily electricity of 5 hours, you will not really notice what you are experiencing. However, taking away the daily electricity supply of 5 hours a day, your fridge coming on between 9am and 5pm, and relying only on solar panels to charge and keep your system running, you begin to experience these. What most people don't know is that solar panels have an efficiency of 19% to 21%. For a 300w panel, you can get close to 250w when the sun is really high and with a clear sky. And that rarely happens during the day and especially as we have a raining season. Any small cloud passing over the direct sun rays to your panel will reduce it's output. What I am saying is, while you expect to have 1030w from your panels, the reality is going to be very different. You may just be seeing 300w from the system. Solutions? Get a premium mppt controller. Your inverter may be hybrid, but it will not be able to give you what you want. If you can get an mppt that take up to 200v, even better. Let your installer series all the panels, use the mppt and connect directly to the battery. Then observe it's performance and based on the charging performance of the battery and it's use time, you can decide to adjust your fridge timing according. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Malquisoft(m): 7:16am On May 14, 2023 |
The main issue here is the low voc of 35v of your solar panel ( more like 250w panel). When loaded the vmp may drop to 27v or less depends on intensity of the sun, which is not enough to charge your battery fully and also produces less power. 60amps Mppt charge controller solves the problem easily, I'll advice you to use 2s2p connection for 4 solar panels to achieve best output. Make sure your pv faces south with minimal elevation of 15 to 25 degrees. I also use the same setup as you and I enjoy more power at daytime and only consume 30 percent of battery overnight. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by enumerica: 10:22am On May 27, 2023 |
Victor0000001: Please show me the model (its name and model number with picture) of your freezer that is 60 watt I am interested in it. I will need the picture and where I can buy one. |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Victor0000001: 1:26pm On Jul 04, 2023 |
enumerica: GN-Y331SLBB. The picture is above. |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Victor0000001: 1:40pm On Jul 04, 2023 |
Thank you guys. I really appreciate your contribution. You guys are right. The problem was not my panel. I should have written this long ago but was very busy with other things of life. What I did was to study my inverter and read extensively on it. I discovered that the solar led/light that comes up on the inverter does not necessarily mean that its charging. It only indicates that there is solar power available. The charging starts when the solar led/light begins to blink. All this while, I thought the inverter charges my battery when the led/light comes up as early as 7am and goes off around 7pm. As a matter of fact, the charging(blinking) sometimes can stop anytime in the afternoon if the sun is not enough according to the inverter calculation. Consequently, i was draining the reserved battery power while I thought it was charging because the led/light was up **Here is the solution** I got MPPT solar charge controller and it solved all my problems. This controller does not necessarily need too much sun but only the day light to charge my batteries, considering the fact that I have three panels of 350Watt each as against my two batteries. I now have 24 hours electricity. I also bought QASA 10 watts fan which I use when there is no NEPA. I owe this writeup so that someone can also learn. Thank you so much guys. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Victor0000001: 1:57pm On Jul 04, 2023 |
rottennaija: You are very correct. Learnt by experience. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by dahreh90: 1:09pm On Jul 11, 2023 |
Victor0000001: I'm also facing similar issue, please what is the name of the mppt charge controller you bought and price? I don't want to overspend please |
Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by kiekie1(m): 9:25am On Aug 05, 2023 |
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by Wizyoung(m): 7:50am On Sep 05, 2023 |
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by kiekie1(m): 9:14pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by kiekie1(m): 9:48am On Nov 06, 2023 |
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by kiekie1(m): 10:02pm On Nov 07, 2023 |
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Re: What Is Happening To My Solar Installation & Inverter? Please Help!!!! by kiekie1(m): 11:19am On Nov 16, 2023 |
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