Premise 2: Apostle Paul was seen giving his opinions or desires for the Church sometimes even mentioning that God wasn't involved in his judgement:
1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.

2 Corinthians 11:17
In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool.

1 Corinthians 7:25
Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy.

1 Timothy 2:8
Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands, without anger or dissension.

CodeTemplar:
Spirit of God inspired, Complied and Tested.

AntiChristian:
Apostle Paul is the 13th Disciple appointed by Jesus as a Bright light after he left this world!

Premise 1: All Scriptures are God-Breathed!
In 2 Timothy 3:16 Paul said "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

NB: Take note of the Blue portion above



So, are all Scriptures God-Breathed or all Human thoughts or a blended mix?

Shamunn
Enskynelson
TenQ

AntiChristian:


Which question are you answering?

So, are all Scriptures God-Breathed or all Human thoughts or a blended mix?

FxMasterz:


Yeah, all scripture are God-breathed. Let me explain that to you.

Note that when Paul wrote these words, he was actually making reference to the Old Testament scriptures which were the only scriptures of his time. He never knew his own writings would become scriptures.

The scriptures being God breathed means the writers were motivated to write by the Spirit of God. The breathe of God is also in their writings.

There are human thoughts, actions, words and what have you but there's a single message carried by all those - God's love for you and His provision for your salvation.

When we talk about inspired words, we do not confine that only to the Bible. Even today, we have inspired songs, inspired books, inspired movies, inspired prayers, etc. These all means that God's breathe is on those songs, books or whatever it is that is deemed inspired.

There's a way to know inspired writings, and this is the forte of spirit men whose spirits has been made alive and can have spiritual perceptions.

Inspired words, songs, movies etc always lift up the soul. They edify. They build up the inner man. You can't mistake inspired stuffs when you find them. Your spirit reacts because you're spiritually alive. If it's not inspired, you'll know, and the reaction of your spirit would be negative.

Spiritually dead people don't know inspired things. Everything is natural to them because they live only within the provisions of the 5 senses of touch, taste, etc.

Your words or actions can be deemed inspired when God accompanies them by His Spirit in order to use them to bless the world.

CodeTemplar:
In Islam.the food you eat maybe determining what enters your head as idea. In Christianity, there is a spirit behind every thought.

AntiChristian:


Paul was not called a Muslim in the Bible.

So, are all Scriptures God-Breathed or all Human thoughts or a blended mix?

Prove it from the Original Post!

CodeTemplar:
who told you all must being to only one of the above? Try harder.

AntiChristian:


Scripture actually means the Bible in this context! I quite agree he may not have know that some Christian founding fathers would incorporate about 13 of his letters into the Biblical Canon!



This your merry go round is messy! Look at your words in bolded green!
Yeah, all scripture are God-breathed.
There are human thoughts, actions, words...
How is confusion defined?

AntiChristian:
Apostle Paul is the 13th Disciple appointed by Jesus as a Bright light after he left this world!

Premise 1: All Scriptures are God-Breathed!
In 2 Timothy 3:16 Paul said "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

NB: Take note of the Blue portion above



So, are all Scriptures God-Breathed or all Human thoughts or a blended mix?

Shamunn
Enskynelson
TenQ

FxMasterz:


Then in the next paragraph I cleared the air on how God-breathed words and actions are defined.

When you read a book or a letter, do you draw your conclusions or make a summary of the book or letter on the basis of one paragraph?

TenQ:


I can UNDERSTAND you as you think the scripture has to be DICTATED!
Unfortunately, neither the scriptures of the Jews not that of the Christians were Dictated by God. They were ALL written by men in the language and style of men for men. Of course, you can't understand!

The term
All Scriptures are God-Breathed!
mean that all scriptures is directed/inspired/guided by God Himself
AND it has the purpose of being useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness


I other words
God uses the faculties of men to speak or write for Him for the purpose of teaching doctrine, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness

1Cor 2:16:
"For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

Jesus said:
Mat 10:19-20:
"But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what you shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what you shall speak. For it is not you that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaks in you."


Summary:
When you are in Christ, EVERY faculty of your being is USEFUL as a TOOL for God. Your mind, your emotions, your sight, your abilities and giftings etc Nothing you have or you are or you have is off limits

I expect you to shamelessly repeat the same question .

Over to you!

AntiChristian:


So, are all Scriptures God-Breathed or all Human thoughts or a blended mix?

You chose the first two and this can't be true!
It only shows you are confused!

If God did Inspire the Scripture which includes the New testament then there should be no room for Paul's opinions!
Otherwise, God's inspiration is incomplete or does not suffice!

FxMasterz:

Your errornous definition of inspiration according to Christianity is the problem here.

This your response does not in anyway say anything to dispute my explanations in line with the definition. You're just saying what I never said. Paul's opinions matter. God uses human opinions in books, sermons, sings, drama etc. He breathes on them and turn them into channels of blessings.

Read someone's comment on my opinionated post here: https://www.nairaland.com/7637591/all-babies-enemies-god/39#122610890

You'll notice that Courz referred to my comments and that of tctrills as being inspired by God. Does that me that everything we said were the verbatim words of God?

AntiChristian:


I never said they were not written by men! Are all Scriptures God-Breathed or all Human thoughts or a blended mix?

AntiChristian:

Waoh! You are answering your own question here as I didn't tell you to expatiate on God-Breathe!

If all Scriptures are God Breathe aka Holy Spirit calling the shots why does Paul have to use his opinions in those highlighted cases?

AntiChristian:


So your conclusion is that God's inspiration can simply be the opinions of men?

1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.

2 Corinthians 11:17
In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool.

1 Corinthians 7:25
Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy.

1 Timothy 2:8
Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands, without anger or dissension.

TenQ:

Didn't I tell you that you would Shamelessly repeat the question even when the full Response is staring you in the face!?


Because ALL his faculties, intellect, emotion etc is a useful tool in God's hands!
How many times will I need to repeat these?
I even gave you two scriptures for you to chew but, I'm never disappointed with you folks.

AntiChristian:


So your conclusion is that God's inspiration can simply be the opinions of men?

1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.

2 Corinthians 11:17
In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool.

1 Corinthians 7:25
Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy.

1 Timothy 2:8
Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands, without anger or dissension.

Take a good Look at each of Paul's opinions before your next comment particularly the italicized words!

FxMasterz:

No need of too much talks.

Yes, man's opinion can be God's opinion after His minds have been trained to see things they way God sees it. That's the purpose of Christianity. To make men see things the way God sees them.

1Cor. 6:7
"But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him."

TenQ has given you a scripture that tells you that 'we have the mind of Christ.'

Romans 12 tells you the process our minds undergo until it becomes transformed and abandons conformity with the world but instead conforms with Christ.

Your touch can suddenly become the touch of God. Yeah, you touch people and demons scream and sicknesses take to their heels. It happens daily in our congregations.

When a pastor preaches, the preaching is the words and toughts of the pastor breathed upon by God if the pastor is truly working with God. His messages would be inspired. Inspired words reach the hearts. Uninspired words do not go beyond the ears.

AntiChristian:


Closing the discussion with you now, two things from the verse below:

2 Corinthians 11:17
In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool.

1. God's Inspiration
2. Folly!

What you are telling me if i get it well is to concede that God uses Human folly and His inspiration in the Bible!

Agreed?

AntiChristian:


Please cross check the Italicized words! Does Paul relates his opinions to God's inspiration?
I, but not the Lord and I have no command from the Lord for example are definitely not from God entirely but from Paul's human opinion!

Because ALL his faculties, intellect, emotion etc is a useful tool in God's hands!
How many times will I need to repeat these?
I even gave you two scriptures for you to chew but, I'm never disappointed with you folks.

TenQ:


Just because you cannot comprehend simple things, let me QUOTE again what I wrote

FxMasterz:

That passage you quoted was inspired. The message it carries is that no matter how anointed you may be, you could fall into the trap of boasting, but know that any form of boasting is foolishness. So, beware.

AntiChristian:


So God inspired folly?

Someone says he talking on his own but you guys are still pathetically telling lies that he's inspired!

Alright!

Thank you!

FxMasterz:
Who told you that God inspired folly?

The message the passage carries is not clear to the blind. That passage teaches us that boasting is folly. That's why true Christians never boast. The Bible teaches us both what to do and what not to do by giving us practical examples. The example here is Paul who boasted. We learn that boasting is folly from that inspired message.

AntiChristian:


So your Bible can't be clear to us but our Qur'an can be clear to you guys right? Hypocrisy!

Paul called himself a fool yet he's opinions were from the Holy Spirit!
The words of God/Holy Spirit can then be said to be folly!

Hope this is clear?

FxMasterz:

Come and go and sit down.

Where did I say the Bible can't be clear to you? Just looking for what to say even if it doesn't make sense?

The message the passage carries is not clear to the blind.

There were many foolish actions in the Bible from which we learn. The Bible is a book full of examples for us to learn from. All those examples are messages to guide us in the journey of faith.

"Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." 1Cor. 10:11

AntiChristian:


You said: How is that explained?



Samples!!! Talking about samples...I've got them plenty!

1. The Prayer
Proverbs 5:18-19
18 May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her boobs satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

(Say Amen)

2. My Beloved
Song of Songs 1:13-14
13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my boobs.
14 My beloved is to me a cluster of henna blossoms
from the vineyards of En Gedi.

3. Your boobs
Song of Songs 4:5-6
5 Your boobs are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.

4. More description
Song of Songs 7:7-8
7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your boobs like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your boobs be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,

5. Kiss of life
Song of Songs 8:1
8 If only you were to me like a brother,
who was nursed at my mother’s boobs!
Then, if I found you outside,
I would kiss you,
and no one would despise me.

6. Little sister with no boobs
Song of Songs 8:8-10
8 We have a little sister,
and her boobs are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
9 If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

7. Boobs like towers
Song of Songs 8:10
10 I am a wall,
and my boobs are like towers.
Thus I have become in his eyes
like one bringing contentment.

Which of the booby samples is your favorite?

You have a lot of explanations to do!

You ended up quoting from Paul's folly!
Alhamdulillah, I no get folly as God's breathe!

Thank you!

AntiChristian:


Now i understand the reason Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 1:25

For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom!

Now you are saying the same God's wisdom can be equated to man's foolishness!

We hereby conclude that Paul's foolishness = The Christian God's Inspiration!

Christianity is an absurd mathematics!
Just as 1+1+1=1

Nothing ever adds up!

Thank you!

FxMasterz:

It already shows how spiritually unlearned and unlettered you are. How does 'The message the passage carries is not clear to the blind' equates to 'you cannot understand the Bible.' SMH. It is this typie of reasoning that makes it difficult for you to perceive truth. The reason why a caravan robber who also doubles as a murderer and paedophile is your prophet.

If you think I'm here to discuss the Bible with you, you miss the point because I can already see that your purpose for opening the thread is to mock.

You'll end up where Mohammed is right now when you die. Your fore fathers who followed Mohammed are wishing you don't come where they are but you obstinately held on to obvious lies.

Look, there's no 72 virgins awaiting you in any paradise. Only someone who doesn't know God would think that sex is the best thing that God can offer man for a reward. Go and think about all the morbid stuffs TenQ and Advocatejare have exposed in your religion or you want me to start reminding you of them one by one? Maybe this time, you'll have the opportunity to see more clearly, and escape for your life. Can't you see you're just deceiving yourself? SMH.

advocatejare:

AntiChristian is confused, the Quran that he holds as the direct words of Allah mentioned breast, breasts of girls Satan aka Allah is using to lure them into hellfire

Allah even describe how the he described how the breast of the al-janna virgins will be like, full breasted not small

“(And for the believers, there will be) Young full-breasted virgins of equal age.”
(QS. An-Naba 78: Verse 33)