Without prejudice to any tribe (that's not my intention) why do the igbos not like adding pepper to their stew,sauce,soups and meals.i had an experience yesterday.i went to buy somethings in the market and I was hungry and decided to stop by a buka within a plaza and I asked the waiter what they had she said it's only oha and egusi they have left.i said ok please give me egusi.she brought it and I noticed there was no pepper inside the egusi.this is not the first time I'm eating the Igbo version of egusi.they have their own unique ways of making egusi which is slightly different from the Yorubas and I always notice a similar pattern in their egusi and other soups NO PEPPER.i could still tolerate a soup without oil but pepper,arrghhh.anyway It was delicious but i didn't feel the satisfaction of eating which brings me to my question

1.is it that it's a culture thing that it's against your ways to cook food with pepper?

2.why so much emphasis on Cray fish,smoked fish etc without pepper and Oil

3.why is the eba always startchy.thank you

Parks Benz

all these you wrote that the igbos cook with, the yorubas don't also use them to cook. so why the question? even though you wrote you're not being tribalistic, i still felt you're being tribalistic

Shedrack777:
all these you wrote that the igbos cook with, the yorubas don't also use them to cook. so why the question? even though you wrote you're not being tribalistic, i still felt you're being tribalistic

#sighs# l knew this tribalistic issue will come up that was why I stated this is a NON TRIBALISTIC ISSUE and without prejudice to any tribe.its just a question I asked because I discovered that it's a common pattern so I wanted to know if it's individual preferences or a cultural thing


N.b I know politicians have fanned the embers of tribal divisions and it's still playing out even after elections that any little thing is immediately misconstrued to mean tribal bias.anyway if you feel so, THAT IS NOT THE MOTIVE OF THIS THREAD.this has to do with food and everything pertaining to the distinctive similarities and differences in foods among the igbos,thank you sir.

Watery stool........ Peppery anus..

irunoko:
#sighs# l knew this tribalistic issue will come up that was why I stated this is a NON TRIBALISTIC ISSUE and without prejudice to any tribe.its just a question I asked because I discovered that it's a common pattern so I wanted to know if it's individual preferences or a cultural thing


N.b I know politicians have fanned the embers of tribal divisions and it's still playing out even after elections that any little thing is immediately misconstrued to mean tribal bias.anyway if you feel so, THAT IS NOT THE MOTIVE OF THIS THREAD.this has to do with food and everything pertaining to the distinctive similarities and differences in foods among the igbos,thank you sir.

the reason i said what i felt is because the yorubas don't also use cray fish, smoked fish, okporoko, and stock fish to cook because they dislike them. so why emphasising only on the pepper which the yorubas love but disliked by igbos?

Shedrack777:
the reason i said what i felt is because the yorubas don't also use cray fish, smoked fish, okporoko, and stock fish to cook because they dislike them. so why emphasising only on the pepper which the yorubas love but disliked by igbos?

Majority of the yorubas cook with Cray fish, smoked fish and okporoko... but it's not really common in dia kitchen store or fridge... this are items they add to soup like 2 times a month... so generally dey don't dislike it...

There is difference between no pepper and too much pepper.
Thanks.

Shedrack777:
the reason i said what i felt is because the yorubas don't also use cray fish, smoked fish, okporoko, and stock fish to cook because they dislike them. so why emphasising only on the pepper which the yorubas love but disliked by igbos?

o really? I wasn't aware that the Igbos dislike pepper.this is just New to me.anyway thanks for the information

Secondly yes I emphasized on only the pepper because a lot of people like myself get some tingling feeling of nausea and unsatisfaction when they eat foods devoid of pepper.

Anyway you have answered my question.i have gotten the reasons from your response.thank you

Tinububalls:
There is difference between no pepper and too much pepper.
Thanks.

do they put pepper in their soups and meals at all? If they do it's not noticeable.thanks for the response though

BigDawsNet:


Majority of the yorubas cook with Cray fish, smoked fish and okporoko... but it's not really common in dia kitchen store or fridge... this are items they add to soup like 2 times a month... so generally dey don't dislike it...

true

irunoko:
do they put pepper in their soups and meals at all? If they do it's not noticeable.thanks for the response though

They always put.

irunoko:
o really? I wasn't aware that the Igbos dislike pepper.this is just New to me.anyway thanks for the information

Secondly yes I emphasized on only the pepper because a lot of people like myself get some tingling feeling of nausea and unsatisfaction when they eat foods devoid of pepper.

Anyway you have answered my question.i have gotten the reasons from your response.thank you

you're welcome. anyways, stop consuming too much pepper, it causes pile

irunoko:
o really? I wasn't aware that the Igbos dislike pepper.this is just New to me.anyway thanks for the information

Secondly yes I emphasized on only the pepper because a lot of people like myself get some tingling feeling of nausea and unsatisfaction when they eat foods devoid of pepper.

Anyway you have answered my question.i have gotten the reasons from your response.thank you

Igbos like pepper (especially being one of the ethnic groups with a rightful claim to pepper-soup, not to mention ose-Nsuk(k)a/yellow/Cameroon pepper- which is extremely, extremely hot, probably just as much as Carolina-Reaper peppers - being indigenous to Igboland and used quite a lot in certain traditional dishes) and personal preference is an individual thing anyway. Just in moderation. Jollof rice is an example of a food often cooked with ose-Nsuk(k)a people by certain types of Igbo people (not necessarily just Nsuk/k/a/Wawa-Enugu people; Benue people certainly use it and it’s so widespread generally in Nigeria now that even Yoruba people use it now, sometimes in rice). Another example besides pepper soup is ofe oha, or abacha. Other than ora soup those foods are often intentionally quite spicy but you’re not going to get that level of heat in a stew which isn’t trying to be ayamase [which is an amazing type of stew, and I do think certain Igbo, Yoruba and Calabar foods could be enhanced by occasionally using bleached palm oil as part of the oils to cook, e.g., jollof rice, mai-mai/moi(n)-moi(n), abacha-ncha, edikang-ikong, efo-riro, akara, kpuff-kpuff, certain types of egusi with onugbu, pumpkin-yam portage, afang soup] and often has vegetables in it (plenty is Igbos cook plainer stews but half of the time Igbos like to add things like nchuanwu, curry leaf and (Indian) spinach to the stew, and all these things are closer to being cooling agents and if anything tone down spiciness/peppery-‘nes’). So it really does just depend on the food.

P.S.: I know bleached palm oil can be carcinogenic when it’s over-consumed but one can take phenelzine or cannabis to lower the risk of that ever happening. And like with everything moderation’s key.

irunoko:
do they put pepper in their soups and meals at all? If they do it's not noticeable.thanks for the response though

Of course pepper/ose is used. This-your level of ignorance is astounding.

Probz:


Of course pepper/ose is used. This-your level of ignorance is astounding.

the insults are not necessary.if I don't know something there's nothing wrong in asking rather than assuming so don't bother shaming another person for asking.na question I ask,I no kill person.thank you sir

Probz:


Igbos like pepper (especially being one of the ethnic groups with a rightful claim to pepper-soup, not to mention ose-Nsuka being indigenous to Igboland and used quite a lot in certain traditional dishes) and personal preference is an individual thing anyway. Just in moderation.

I see.thanks for your civility in explanation

Shedrack777:
you're welcome. anyways, stop consuming too much pepper, it causes pile

lol

Are you a medical doctor?

Igbos are modest in the kitchen; they don't add certain amount of pepper for an individual only, the moderate it for every group. Group A maybe allergic to pepper or eats little or no pepper while group B likes pepper due to environmental nutritional adaptation, they tend to notice when a meal has a lesser pepper or no pepper at all.
Conclusion, consideration is an Igbo thing when it comes to kitchen affairs. They consider other people's choices

Anyone who seriously thinks Igbos don’t cook with a lot of pepper should take a bath in pepper soup laced with ground uziza seeds and freshly-harvested ose-Nsuk(k)a. Igbos own spice when it fits the universal vibe of a particular food (nkwobi, ishi-ewu and pepper soup are supposed to sort of be piping hot). You won’t normally find that level of heat in rice that’s been made for other people. Individual people may turn the spice down or up depending on who they’re cooking for at home or wherever. But in a universal sense pepper-soup (which certainly isn’t something the typical non-Igbo/Deltan even eats like that) calls for … plenty of pepper, whereas normal stew doesn’t. Beyond that it’s just a matter of personal preference. Some people like their onugbu soup to have reasonable traces of bitterness so don’t wash the bitter-leaves as much, other people would rather it was honey-sweet so they wash and wash and wash. Some people like to form the base of their jollof rice with a mixture of bleached palm oil and goose/duck fat, others use turkey or groundnut oil, still-others use just standard vegetable oils. Some parboil. Some don’t. Some prefer akpu. Others prefer nni-ji (pounded yam). Some people particularly like pepper and base part of their food-culture around it, others just see it as a condiment used for technical necessity beyond foods what really, really call for plenty-pepper (ji mmiri-oku being another). People like what they like as individuals.

irunoko:
I see.thanks for your civility in explanation

You’re alright, laddie.

Probz:
Anyone who seriously thinks Igbos don’t cook with a lot of pepper should take a bath in pepper soup laced with ground uziza seeds and freshly-harvested ose-Nsuk(k)a. Igbos own spice when it fits the universal vibe of a particular food (nkwobi, ishi-ewu ans pepper soup are supposed to sort of be piping hot). You won’t normally find that level of heat in rice that’s been made for other people. Individual people may turn the spice down or up depending on who they’re cooking for at home or wherever. But in a universal sense pepper-soup (which certainly isn’t something the typical non-Igbo/Deltan even eats like that) calls for … plenty of pepper, whereas normal stew doesn’t. Beyond that it’s just a matter of personal preference. Some people like their onugbu soup to have reasonable traces of bitterness so don’t wash the bitter-leaves as much, other people would rather it was honey-sweet so they wash and wash and wash. Some people like to form the base of their jollof rice with a mixture of bleached palm oil and goose/duck fat, others use turkey or groundnut oil, still-others use just standard vegetable oils. Some parboil. Some don’t. Some prefer akpu. Others prefer nni-ji (pounded yam). Some people particularly like pepper and base part of their food-culture around it, others just see it as a condiment used for technical necessity beyond foods what really, really call for plenty-pepper (ji mmiri-oku being another). People like what they like as individuals.

quite enlightening.thank you

irunoko:
lol

Are you a medical doctor?

lol. i'm not a medical doctor but i've known this from past experience. i was a consumer of pepper untill it shows me shege