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Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 9:44pm On May 02, 2023
Do you believe the bible? There are questions i want to ask believers. Please let any christian who is ready to answer sincerely indicate himself as i post the questions
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 9:58pm On May 02, 2023
1. Why do believers lie? The bible makes it clear that jesus is against all forms of lies and will have ALL liars tormented in eternal fire. If christians really believe what the bible says, why do they find it very easy to lie knowing fully well the depth of such sin and its penalty? Could it be that they somehow believe that the bible itself isn't correct on that point?

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by adeoyekay(m): 11:10pm On May 02, 2023
Templee333:
1. Why do believers lie? The bible makes it clear that jesus is against all forms of lies and will have ALL liars tormented in eternal fire. If christians really believe what the bible says, why do they find it very easy to lie knowing fully well the depth of such sin and its penalty? Could it be that they somehow believe that the bible itself isn't correct on that point?
Not all believers lie
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by 1Sharon(f): 2:44am On May 03, 2023
They lie because they know they can ask for forgiveness and reset their sins.

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 5:13am On May 03, 2023
adeoyekay:
Not all believers lie
probably you don't lie, or are you talking on behalf of them all. For all i know, anyone who totally stop lying can never remain a christian!

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 5:14am On May 03, 2023
1Sharon:
They lie because they know they can ask for forgiveness and reset their sins.
interesting
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:47am On May 03, 2023
Humans generally are imperfect so most times we err and think of the only way out is to cover up by LYING though it's more or less like mental gymnastics stressing one's brains to cook up what isn't true but the God of Israel knew all that that's why He doesn't treat imperfect humans according to our shortcomings {Psalms 103:11-14} God knows it's out of fear that most humans LIES to cover up so He overlook such shortcomings.

The liars Jesus is talking about in that book of Revelation totally differs from those lying out of fear rather they're people who deliberately lie against what is true due to egotism such ones aren't doing it to cover up anything they are evil knowing fully well that such lies may cost the life of another human yet they look away in fact they don't even feel like begging God for forgiveness because to them there is no God, such ones are the people Jesus is talking about they will be cast into everlasting cut off never to be remembered during resurrection! Psalms 9:17 smiley

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 6:27am On May 03, 2023
How about the cowards (fearfull) ? According to your bible at revelation their portion is in the lake of fire. Also, your jesus said "you must be perfect like your father in heaven". Going by these, your exuses of imperfection and fear doesn't count. MaxInDHouse
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:

How about the cowards (fearfull) ? According to your bible at revelation their portion is in the lake of fire. Also, your jesus said "you must be perfect like your father in heaven". Going by these, your exuses of imperfection and fear doesn't count. MaxInDHouse

Of course we must become PERFECT before we can live forever that's why Jesus must reign (lead) imperfect humans for 1,000 years to gain PERFECTION.
The thief Jesus granted a Visa only gained access into Jesus' 1,000 years tenure he must learn to become PERFECT before he can gain everlasting life! smiley
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 7:10am On May 03, 2023
2. Why do believers use abusive words? The bible make it clear that using speech to bring down another human is a sin that shouldn't have a place in a christian life. Jesus clearly points out that anyone who calls another a fool have heavier judgement in a fiery torment than a murderer,yet, believers and followers of jesus have no problem using such speech freely. Could it be that they somehow think jesus isn't serious, or they do not believe him at all?

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 7:22am On May 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Of course we must become PERFECT before we can live forever that's why Jesus must reign (lead) imperfect humans for 1,000 years to gain PERFECTION.
The thief Jesus granted a Visa only gained access into Jesus' 1,000 years tenure he must learn to become PERFECT before he can gain everlasting life! smiley
what makes you think you will magically change in your imaginary 1000yr if you can't change now?

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:28am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:
2. Why do believers use abusive words? The bible make it clear that using speech to bring down another human is a sin that shouldn't have a place in a christian life. Jesus clearly points out that anyone who calls another a fool have heavier judgement in a fiery torment than a murderer,yet, believers and followers of jesus have no problem using such speech freely. Could it be that they somehow think jesus isn't serious, or they do not believe him at all?

When someone does what is stupid you have to let him know that he or she is STUPID that's why Jesus and Paul used abusive speeches! Matthew 23:17; Galatians 3:1

So what did Jesus mean when he said:

"However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna" Matthew 5:22

Here Jesus is talking about a believer who uses abusive speeches for his fellow believer that's strictly following Jesus' orders.
For Instance a believer may choose to remain single all his life {Matthew 19:12} or completely avoid alcoholic drinks {Matthew 5:29} or wants to live all his life completely serving as a minister {Luke 18:22} and so on.
But a fellow believer who knew that such wasn't condemned by our Lord Jesus started calling such a brother a FOOL then the abuse isn't for the person obeying instructions rather it's for the person who taught him to do so.

That's why Jesus said such a person can't escape the judgment of everlasting destruction because he has abandoned the faith for condemning what our Lord Jesus taught!

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 7:31am On May 03, 2023
3. Why do believers engage in sexual sins even when their bible clearly condemns such? Why so many boyfriends and girlfriends among christians? Could it be that they don't believe their bible? Or maybe they think that the bible is somehow wrong on that issue? Could it be that God is not serious?
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:34am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:
what makes you think you will magically change in your imaginary 1000yr if you can't change now?

I told you that out of fear people do so many things but when Jesus begin his rulership death, sickness, poverty, oldage, crime, hunger even all the forces of nature will work as if it's all for our good, no more storms, hail, tornadoes, pandemic and so on.
Ọmọ there will not be any reason to fear and do what we know is wrong! smiley

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 7:37am On May 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


When someone does what is stupid you have to let him know that he or she is STUPID that's why Jesus and Paul used abusive speeches! Matthew 23:17; Galatians 3:1

So what did Jesus mean when he said:

"However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna" Matthew 5:22

Here Jesus is talking about a believer who uses abusive speeches for his fellow believer that's strictly following Jesus' orders.
For Instance a believer may choose to remain single all his life {Matthew 19:12} or completely avoid alcoholic drinks {Matthew 5:29} or wants to live all his life completely serving as a minister {Luke 18:22} and so on.
excuses and confusion
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 7:54am On May 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I told you that out of fear people do so many things but when Jesus begin his rulership death, sickness, poverty, oldage, crime, hunger even all the forces of nature will work as if it's all for our good, no more storms, hail, tornadoes, pandemic and so on.
Ọmọ there will not be any reason to fear and do what we know is wrong! smiley
i hope you guys say that if people obey God only in a favourable condition that will not settle the issue of human integrity? So you've now realize that you can't obey God until you live in a "bed of roses". So why all these years of suffering if God knew that humans can't obey him until your imaginary 1000yrs?

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:57am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:
excuses and confusion

From your PERSONAL point of view! smiley

A father can call his son "FOOL" and it will be justified if such a child is doing what he or she never copied from the dad, but when a father calls his child "FOOL" for doing exactly what he himself is doing then the child isn't the FOOL anymore rather it's the one who lay down the example.
So learn to be wise in reasoning! wink

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:
i hope you guys say that if people obey God only in a favourable condition that will not settle the issue of human integrity? So you've now realize that you can't obey God until you live in a "bed of roses". So why all these years of suffering if God knew that humans can't obey him until your imaginary 1000yrs?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa, you're mixing it up again! smiley

When someone does something out of fear he or she knows what he did is wrong so it means he wouldn't have done that under normal circumstances therefore when someone reminds him or her admittance follows and forgiveness takes place based on the ransom sacrifice of Christ Jesus.
But in Paradise where there's nothing making us fear {Micah 4:4} we will learn to become perfect like Jesus said we ought to be! Matthew 5:48 smiley

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 8:21am On May 03, 2023
Why do believers aspire for material riches even when jesus made it clear that a rich person CANNOT ENTER the kingdom of God? Jesus and his early followers didn't seek material riches and didn't instruct his believers to seek riches. So why do christians today think they can amaze wealth in the world and still make it to the kingdom of god. Could it be that they don't believe jesus on this matter?
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:33am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:

Why do believers aspire for material riches even when jesus made it clear that a rich person CANNOT ENTER the kingdom of God? Jesus and his early followers didn't seek material riches and didn't instruct his believers to seek riches. So why do christians today think they can amaze wealth in the world and still make it to the kingdom of god. Could it be that they don't believe jesus on this matter?

Jesus wasn't talking to the same set of people on this matter!

Jesus has two sets of sheep:
The BORN AGAIN Christians~ this set are few in number, they will be taken to heaven with Jesus and there they will stay forever with him.
The earthly subjects of God's Kingdom~ the set will gain everlasting life on this planet they will build houses and have the best of life as humans on earth.

The first set are the ones Jesus is referring to here.

Nevertheless any disciple of Jesus should know that even if he is not going to live with Jesus in heaven he must be moderate in the way he accumulate material possessions because when Jesus begin his reign whatever anyone has will be summed up together with other people's possessions and distributed evenly. So if someone is greedily amassing material possessions it may hinder his chances when that time comes to contribute it all and share equally with others who has little or nothing to contribute! Act 5:1-11

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 9:17am On May 03, 2023
"I am the Lord,I have never changed"; "Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever". Do believers of the bible really believe that god is unchangeable? But when they do certain things in direct contrast with what their bible says, christians tell you that the bible was written when men did not open their eyes. "it is no longer like that" is what they likely say as an excuse to do what the bible forbids. Could it be that christians think that god has changed in some areas? He can no longer divide the red sea or raise the dead, he doesn't heal instantly anymore,he doesn't answer by fire now a days, he doesn't send manna from heaven anymore, etc. Why and when did he change?
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:
"I am the Lord,I have never changed"; "Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever". Do believers of the bible really believe that god is unchangeable? But when they do certain things in direct contrast with what their bible says, christians tell you that the bible was written when men did not open their eyes. "it is no longer like that" is what they likely say as an excuse to do what the bible forbids. Could it be that christians think that god has changed in some areas? He can no longer divide the red sea or raise the dead, he doesn't heal instantly anymore,he doesn't answer by fire now a days, he doesn't send manna from heaven anymore, etc. Why and when did he change?

God doesn't change!

He made a covenant with a man called Abraham and promised to be faithful regarding this covenant that's why He did all what was written as a loyal friend for the descendants of His friend Abraham.

The promise He made concerning the earth stands but misinformed religionists are thinking God should continue doing all the things He did for the descendants of His friend Abraham when He made no covenant with your own ancestors! smiley

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 9:37am On May 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


God doesn't change!

He made a covenant with a man called Abraham and promised to be faithful regarding this covenant that's why He did all what was written as a loyal friend for the descendants of His friend Abraham.

The promise He made concerning the earth stands but misinformed religionists are thinking God should continue doing all the things He did for the descendants of His friend Abraham when He made no covenant with your own ancestors! smiley
in one word, he was the god of abraham. We should all follow the various gods of our ancestors?
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:48am On May 03, 2023
Templee333:
in one word, he was the god of abraham. We should all follow the various gods of our ancestors?

Follow the god of your choice!

This is what a descendant of Abraham said on this matter:

“Now look! I am about to die, and you well know with all your heart and with all your soul that not one word out of all the good promises that Jehovah your God has spoken to you has failed. They have all come true for you. Not one word of them has failed. But just as all the good promises that Jehovah your God has spoken to you have come upon you, so Jehovah will bring upon you all the calamity that he promised and will annihilate you from this good land that Jehovah your God has given you." Joshua 23:14-15

As for me and my household we will worship this God who has been faithful with all His promises! Joshua 24:15 smiley

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:01am On May 03, 2023
If you still have more questions regarding what our book says i'm still very much around.
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 10:48am On May 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
If you still have more questions regarding what our book says i'm still very much around.
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
So you now feel proud that you've done a great job. Hahahaha, i just don't see the need to counter your answers because it will lead to undending argument. Your answers are just what you were programmed to say by your white masters.

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 10:56am On May 03, 2023
6.why do believers take vengeance? Jesus taught non resistance and yet believers hardly obey him on that. Some in as far as taking their case to court even when their bible tells them not to do so. Could it be that christians don't believe that god will always administer justice in the right way? Maybe they think they can do better than their god.
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by sonmvayina(m): 11:01am On May 03, 2023
It was not written for belief


It was written to inform...and educate..
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 11:09am On May 03, 2023
Why do believers make images and drawings of jesus even when their bible clearly tells them not to make a representation of anything existing in heaven or earth? Interestingly,jesus didn't take pictures of himself or instructed his followers to do so,yet believers go on to make drawings and images of their god in books and stones. To be strict, believers shouldn't have photographs of themselves because its against their god's command. Could it be that they don't believe that their god is serious on this matter?
Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by Templee333(m): 11:24am On May 03, 2023
Why do believers detest poverty even when the bible says that the kingdom of heaven belongs to the poor. Rich men are instructed to sell out their possesions and distribute to the poor. The early christians counted it a privilege to be poor and sold out their material riches. So why do modern christians view poverty as a curse and pray for riches instead? Could it be that they don't believe their bible anymore?

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On May 03, 2023
Templee333:

So you now feel proud that you've done a great job. Hahahaha, i just don't see the need to counter your answers because it will lead to undending argument. Your answers are just what you were programmed to say by your white masters.

At least i have answers! grin

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Re: Do You Believe The Bible? Come In I Have Some Questions by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:21pm On May 03, 2023
Templee333:

6.why do believers take vengeance? Jesus taught non resistance and yet believers hardly obey him on that. Some in as far as taking their case to court even when their bible tells them not to do so. Could it be that christians don't believe that god will always administer justice in the right way? Maybe they think they can do better than their god.

Jesus never said we shouldn't take cases to the court of law. That's why he told his disciples to make sure they settle their disparities among themselves but when the wrongdoer feel he's too big for the church to reprove then we will treat him like any other person which means we should take his case to those who uses force and weapons to handle matters! Matthew 18:15-17 smiley

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