He Died & Saw HITLER in Hell. What Came Next Will Shock You


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J3susFr3ak:


He Died & Saw HITLER in Hell. What Came Next Will Shock You


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Buhari...if you do not repent from your sins and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior...you will also join the the World War 2 tyrant....the Gospel is Good News to save your soul....but dire warning of your damnation if you reject Jesus today!

J3susFr3ak:


He Died & Saw HITLER in Hell. What Came Next Will Shock You

According to Jesus Christ Himself, no man will enter into Heaven or Hell until after He returns and judges the sheep and goats in His Kingdom. It this man's claim is to be considered true, are we to then believe Jesus Christ fked up? Is Jesus Christ a liar?

Also, Jesus Christ did state that everyone must be born-again-- no man can enter into the Kingdom of God except he is first born-again-- born of water and born of Spirit. Are you insinuating that Hitler was born-again according to the teachings of Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 1 - 21 Since into those who are can have the eternal life which Jesus Christ said no man before Him had in this life?

Or are we to take it that Jesus Christ lied?

Kobojunkiee:
According to Jesus Christ Himself, no man will enter into Heaven or Hell until after He returns and judges the sheep and goats in His Kingdom. It this man's claim is to be considered true, are we to then believe Jesus Christ fked up? Is Jesus Christ a liar?

Also, Jesus Christ did state that everyone must be born-again-- no man can enter into the Kingdom of God except he is first born-again-- born of water and born of Spirit. Are you insinuating that Hitler was born-again according to the teachings of Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 1 - 21 Since into those who are can have the eternal life which Jesus Christ said no man before Him had in this life?

Or are we to take it that Jesus Christ lied?

"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried in Hades, where he was being tormented, he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side (Luke 16:22,23)."

I think you might be confused here. Hell is the temporary holding cell or "jail" before the final and Grand Judgement by Christ. Please re-read Jesus' parable of Lazarus and the rich man and the accounts of how two people died and ended up in two very different places. One was hell or Hades or Sheol...the place of the unrighteous dead who are now suddenly tormented. And the other place was Abraham's Bosom...the place of the righteous dead...where those who are counted worthy by God rested before Jesus finally comes to render the ultimate and final Judgment.

Now I think you may have been confused about Hell and the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the FINAL DESTINATION of very single rebellious entity....where even hell will end up. Read the Scriptures in Revelations more carefully again!

After unbelievers are resurrected, they will stand before God at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-13).

According to the Book of Revelation, those whose names are not written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, a place of everlasting punishment (Revelation 20:15).

In their resurrected bodies, unbelievers will live forever in this burning lake, which is “the second death” (Revelation 20:14).

The Bible teaches that those in the Lake of Fire, along with the Antichrist, False Prophet, and Satan, will be tormented forever (Revelation 20:10; Matthew 3:12; Revelation 14:10-11).

Jesus also affirms this in the parable of the sheep and goats, stating that unbelievers will “go away to eternal punishment” (Matthew 25:46).

Many Christians may feel as if spending eternity in the Lake of Fire is an unjust punishment for unbelievers, but we need to remember that where we spend eternity depends on whether we trust in Jesus for salvation or reject His free offer of grace (John 3:18; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9).

J3susFr3ak:
■ I think you might be confused here. Hell is the temporary holding cell or "jail" before the final and Grand Judgement by Christ. Please re-read Jesus' parable of Lazarus and the rich man and the accounts of how two people died and ended up in two very different places. One was hell or Hades or Sheol...the place of the unrighteous dead who are now suddenly tormented. And the other place was Abraham's Bosom...the place of the righteous dead...where those who are counted worthy by God rested before Jesus finally comes to render the ultimate and final Judgment.

■ Now I think you may have been confused about Hell and the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the FINAL DESTINATION of very single rebellious entity....where even hell will end up. Read the Scriptures in Revelations more carefully again! After unbelievers are resurrected, they will stand before God at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-13). According to the Book of Revelation, those whose names are not written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, a place of everlasting punishment (Revelation 20:15). In their resurrected bodies, unbelievers will live forever in this burning lake, which is “the second death” (Revelation 20:14). The Bible teaches that those in the Lake of Fire, along with the Antichrist, False Prophet, and Satan, will be tormented forever (Revelation 20:10; Matthew 3:12; Revelation 14:10-11). Jesus also affirms this in the parable of the sheep and goats, stating that unbelievers will “go away to eternal punishment” (Matthew 25:46). Many Christians may feel as if spending eternity in the Lake of Fire is an unjust punishment for unbelievers, but we need to remember that where we spend eternity depends on whether we trust in Jesus for salvation or reject His free offer of grace (John 3:18; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9).

1. If Jesus Christ made it clear that He did not come to condemn but to save and that judgment does not take place until after He returns and judges all the sheep and goats in the Kingdom of God, why would there be this need for a temporary cell?

I am afraid you have it twisted at both ends. Clearly, the story of Lazarus and the rich man is a Parable and not meant to be translated literally as all parables are not meant to be. For one the Old Law of Moses, the context around which the entire story is told, does not include a mention of a place of torment — either temporary or permanent for the dead— as rather it stipulates a reward of Life or Death(perishing in the grave) - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Abraham's bosom in the context used simply references the grave where the righteous are said to sleep until the time of the resurrection. By the way, this parable has absolutely nothing to do with my earlier response to you.

As for your conclusion that the teaching in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 is a Parable, I suggest you head back and re-read that entire passage again as instead, it is Jesus Christ telling you of events to take place at the time that He, the Son of man, returns in the glory of His Kingdom.

2. Hell and Hellfire? In Jesus Christ, there is only one judgment for all those who are born-again, and that one judgment is the final judgment. God does not do do-overs as far as His Judgement is concerned. There is always one judgment under each one of His Laws and that judgment is final.
■ God already judged and condemned all unbelievers throughout time in the beginning - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 when He condemned them all to perish in the grave with no after live for their unbeliever. There is no other judgment that awaits them somewhere in the future
■ What you call the great white throne judgment is the same judgment described by Jesus Christ in Matthew 25 vs 31- 46, and as Jesus Christ made clear, He will be the one doing the judging of the sheep and goats in the Kingdom of God, all of whom are born-agains.
■ The "second death" aka "Lake of fire" is the place of eternal damnation told you by Jesus Christ in Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46.

So, let's get back to my questions, shall we?

According to Jesus Christ Himself, no man will enter Heaven or Hell until after He returns and judges the sheep and goats in His Kingdom. If this man's claim is to be considered true, are we to then believe Jesus Christ fked up? Is Jesus Christ a liar?

Also, Jesus Christ did state that everyone must be born-again-- no man can enter into the Kingdom of God except he is first born-again-- born of water and born of Spirit. Are you insinuating that Hitler was born-again according to the teachings of Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 1 - 21 since only born-agains can possess eternal life which Jesus Christ said no man before Him had in this life?

Or are we to take it that Jesus Christ lied?

Kobojunkiee:
1. If Jesus Christ made it clear that He did not come to condemn but to save and that judgment does not take place until after He returns and judges all the sheep and goats in the Kingdom of God, why would there be this need for a temporary cell?

I am afraid you have it twisted at both ends. Clearly, the story of Lazarus and the rich man is a Parable and not meant to be translated literally as all parables are not meant to be. For one the Old Law of Moses, the context around which the entire story is told, does not include a mention of a place of torment — either temporary or permanent for the dead— as rather it stipulates a reward of Life or Death(perishing in the grave) - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Abraham's bosom in the context used simply references the grave where the righteous are said to sleep until the time of the resurrection. By the way, this parable has absolutely nothing to do with my earlier response to you.

As for your conclusion that the teaching in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 is a Parable, I suggest you head back and re-read that entire passage again as instead, it is Jesus Christ telling you of events to take place at the time that He, the Son of man, returns in the glory of His Kingdom.

2. Hell and Hellfire? In Jesus Christ, there is only one judgment for all those who are born-again, and that one judgment is the final judgment. God does not do do-overs as far as His Judgement is concerned. There is always one judgment under each one of His Laws and that judgment is final.
■ God already judged and condemned all unbelievers throughout time in the beginning - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 when He condemned them all to perish in the grave with no after live for their unbeliever. There is no other judgment that awaits them somewhere in the future
■ What you call the great white throne judgment is the same judgment described by Jesus Christ in Matthew 25 vs 31- 46, and as Jesus Christ made clear, He will be the one doing the judging of the sheep and goats in the Kingdom of God, all of whom are born-agains.
■ The "second death" aka "Lake of fire" is the place of eternal damnation told you by Jesus Christ in Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46.

So, let's get back to my questions, shall we?

According to Jesus Christ Himself, no man will enter Heaven or Hell until after He returns and judges the sheep and goats in His Kingdom. If this man's claim is to be considered true, are we to then believe Jesus Christ fked up? Is Jesus Christ a liar?

Also, Jesus Christ did state that everyone must be born-again-- no man can enter into the Kingdom of God except he is first born-again-- born of water and born of Spirit. Are you insinuating that Hitler was born-again according to the teachings of Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 1 - 21 since only born-agains can possess eternal life which Jesus Christ said no man before Him had in this life?

Or are we to take it that Jesus Christ lied?

What is a parable? In short, it is a simple story to provide a more profound lesson or teaching! From the divine wisdom of Jesus Christ, we can learn transcendent, everlasting truths in the simple parables of the Bible.

I emphasize TRUTHS here....not fiction. If hell or hades were not a REAL LITERAL place, Jesus would not have used it to warn of the severity of God's Judgment.

Do you remember your famous John 3:16 and 17? Yes...I suppose. But many people FORGET the dire warnings from John 3:18 and onward. Which says: "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son." -- John 3:18

In this context, Jesus will not condemn. It is YOUR OWN LACK OF FAITH IN HIS WORDS AND HIS DEED OF SALVATION FOR YOUR SAKE that will condemn you!

When people currently die...they end up either in the current hell or in paradise.

When Jesus Physically returns back to earth to Judge the whole world...the condemned dead already in hell will be ejected out to join the living unsaved in the Great White Throne Judgment.

“Then I saw a great white throne and the one who sat on it; the earth and the heaven fled from his presence, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, the book of life. And the dead were judged according to their works, as recorded in the books. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and all were judged according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire; and anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11-15‬ ‭

Jesus tells the Truth as it is and I choose to believe Him. Please...do not be confused by the Wicked One. The Scripture is as plain and as simple for any one willing to read and repent.

PS. Ask Jesus for Grace and understanding to comprehend what HE says. Trying to approach the Scripture from the futility of carnal wisdom or the delusions of a false religion (like the Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons or even Islam) is opening a massive gateway for corrupting falsehood and lies that will send you away from Jesus Christ instead of towards Him.

J3susFr3ak:
■ What is a parable? In short, it is a simple story to provide a more profound lesson or teaching! From the divine wisdom of Jesus Christ, we can learn transcendent, everlasting truths in the simple parables of the Bible.I emphasize TRUTHS here....not fiction. If hell or hades were not a REAL LITERAL place, Jesus would not have used it to warn of the severity of God's Judgment. Do you remember your famous John 3:16 and 17? Yes...I suppose. But many people FORGET the dire warnings from John 3:18 and onward. Which says: "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son." -- John 3:18 In this context, Jesus will not condemn. It is YOUR OWN LACK OF FAITH IN HIS WORDS AND HIS DEED OF SALVATION FOR YOUR SAKE that will condemn you! When people currently die...they end up either in the current hell or in paradise.
■ When Jesus Physically returns back to earth to Judge the whole world...the condemned dead already in hell will be ejected out to join the living unsaved in the Great White Throne Judgment. “Then I saw a great white throne and the one who sat on it; the earth and the heaven fled from his presence, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, the book of life. And the dead were judged according to their works, as recorded in the books. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and all were judged according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire; and anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11-15‬ ‭
■ Jesus tells the Truth as it is and I choose to believe Him. Please...do not be confused by the Wicked One. The Scripture is as plain and as simple for any one willing to read and repent.

Let's make this simple! Where in scripture did Almighty God inform you that when people die they end up in either this paradise or hell that you speak of?

2. So what you are insisting is that contrary to what Jesus Christ in fact said, everyone on earth previously had eternal life before He showed up — since you claim they would all be raised from the dead —advertising eternal life to them? Basically, you are insinuating that Jesus Christ's offering of Eternal life — life after death — in John 3 vs 16 was of fraud since you the condemned dead were not in fact condemned to perish in the grave but to rise again from their graves?

3. Jesus Christ tells the Truth yet so far you make Him out as nothing but a liar by the many tales you tell of Him. How come?

Kobojunkiee:
Let's make this simple! Where in scripture did Almighty God inform you that when people die they end up in either this paradise or hell that you speak of?

2. So what you are insisting is that contrary to what Jesus Christ in fact said, everyone on earth previously had eternal life before He showed up — since you claim they would all be raised from the dead —advertising eternal life to them? Basically, you are insinuating that Jesus Christ's offering of Eternal life — life after death — in John 3 vs 16 was of fraud since you the condemned dead were not in fact condemned to perish in the grave but to rise again from their graves?

3. Jesus Christ tells the Truth yet so far you make Him out as nothing but a liar by the many tales you tell of Him. How come?

Hey Kobojunkie....you seem to stumble upon the same ancient mistake the Sadducees from Scripture fell woefully on, based on the limitations of their understanding. They did not believe in any spirits, resurrection or angels ...just like the confused atheist or agnostic might get intricately lost in. Can you remember they also posed their own twisted version of a parable to trap Jesus about the concept of the afterlife? In order to challenge or trick Jesus, the Sadducees smugly present him with a hypothetical situation. Jesus pointedly tells them they are in error because they do not know the Bible. He then corrects their errant thinking, amazing the crowd and silencing his critics.

What did Jesus say? "But about the resurrection of the dead-have you not read what God said to you, `I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living. Matthew 22:31-32 NIV


God is the God of the living – not the dead. But whom is He talking about? Who are the living and who are the dead? There are those whose bodies are dead, yet their spirits live on eternally. There are those whose bodies are alive and yet on the inside they are dead. This is a Spiritual perspective from the need to be "Born again" in the Holy Spirit to gain the eternal life from God.

However, in a literal sense, it was only the Death, Resurrection and Ascension of Jesus Christ that Death was finally able to become a "captive" under the control of God.

Ephesians 4:8 — The New International Version (NIV)

8 This is why it says:

“When he ascended on high,

he took many captives

and gave gifts to his people.”

But first....not only Death was the captive of Jesus' War...but the innocent ones who had died in righteousness were also among those Jesus rescued from the fangs of Death after His resurrection.

51At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and e went into the holy city and appeared to many people. --Matthew 27: 51-53

So you see....when Jesus died, He took went down in full Power, Glory and Might and conquered the powers and stronghold of Death over the righteous ones. He preached to many spirits in cavernous dungeons who were locked up since the days of Noah....and the few who were set apart in a separate place because of their faith like Abraham--were set free from Death. So when Jesus resurrected, in His power HE brought back to life a few who also physically came back to life and went out of their tombs (like Lazarus earlier) and the Scripture above stated that these ones dead people brought back to life by Jesus appeared to many people in Jerusalem. They also went with Him to heaven when HE finally ascended according to the quoted Ephesians Scripture above.

Hope you are following. Let's recap....


Before Jesus' Death...Satan the god of this world had the overarching Overlordship over death. Any human being who died went down to the place of the dead...Hades or hell. But this all changed when Jesus died a sinless death of a Perfect and Blameless Sacrifice for our sins. This essentially meant that ALL who died throughout the Old Testament way until right before the Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ--everyone who died did not directly go to the Third Heaven or paradise where God is--if they were righteous. They all went to either Hades if they were wicked or to a place they were they would wait for the promise of God's Salvation (Jesus) if they were righteous: Abraham's Bosom.

When Jesus died....the Reality Game changed! Jesus now became Lord and had Power of both the Living and the Dead! "In Revelation 1:18 Jesus says, “I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.” Possessing the “keys of death” means that the risen Christ has control and authority over death. In John 10:17–18, Jesus says, “The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.” When Jesus died, He died according to His own timing, when He “gave up his spirit” (John 19:30).

This Psalm perfectly describes Jesus approaching the Gates of Hades and invading it to show the powers of death and darkness that they all have failed.

Psalms 24:7-10 New Living Translation (NLT)
"Open up, ancient gates! Open up, ancient doors, and let the King of glory enter. Who is the King of glory? The LORD, strong and mighty; the LORD, invincible in battle. Open up, ancient gates! Open up, ancient doors, and let the King of glory enter. Who is the King of glory? The LORD of Heaven’s Armies— he is the King of glory. "

After Jesus stormed and penetrated those ancient gates of hell--He preached to the spirits there: "8 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. 19 A[b]fter being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits—20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah[/b] while the ark was being built.n In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.e It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him." 1 Peter 3:9

The Great White Throne Judgment will mostly affect those who have rejected the words and Hope found ONLY in Jesus Christ! Please do not make the sad mistake of thinking "consciousness" ends after physical death. You will be more alive then than you can ever imagine.

Please repent friend.

J3susFr3ak:
■ ...Hope you are following. Let's recap.... Before Jesus' Death...Satan the god of this world had the overarching Overlordship over death. Any human being who died went down to the place of the dead...Hades or hell.
■ But this all changed when Jesus died a sinless death of a Perfect and Blameless Sacrifice for our sins. This essentially meant that ALL who died throughout the Old Testament way until right before the Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ--everyone who died did not directly go to the Third Heaven or paradise where God is--if they were righteous. They all went to either Hades if they were wicked or to a place they were they would wait for the promise of God's Salvation (Jesus) if they were righteous: Abraham's Bosom.
■ When Jesus died....the Reality Game changed! Jesus now became Lord and had Power of both the Living and the Dead! "In Revelation 1:18 Jesus says, “I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.” Possessing the “keys of death” means that the risen Christ has control and authority over death. In John 10:17–18, Jesus says, “The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.” When Jesus died, He died according to His own timing, when He “gave up his spirit” (John 19:30). This Psalm perfectly describes Jesus approaching the Gates of Hades and invading it to show the powers of death and darkness that they all have failed. ... After Jesus stormed and penetrated those ancient gates of hell--He preached to the spirits there: "....

The Great White Throne Judgment will mostly affect those who have rejected the words and Hope found ONLY in Jesus Christ! Please do not make the sad mistake of thinking "consciousness" ends after physical death. You will be more alive then than you can ever imagine.Please repent friend.

1. Again, back to the first question I asked you earlier, where in scripture is this claim you make here of the case before Jesus Christ stated. And please do not quote from a parable abeg because it seems you don't understand what an analogy/parable is meant for.

2. Again, where is all of this fairy tale you keep spewing spoken of by God Almighty, the one by whose power it all should have been made?

3. Again, Where in scripture did Almighty God inform you that when people die they end up in either this paradise or hell that you speak of?

4. So what you are insisting is that contrary to what Jesus Christ in fact said, everyone on earth previously had eternal life before He showed up — since you claim they would all be raised from the dead —advertising eternal life to them? Basically, you are insinuating that Jesus Christ's offering of Eternal life — life after death — in John 3 vs 16 was of fraud since you the condemned dead were not in fact condemned to perish in the grave but to rise again from their graves?

5. Jesus Christ tells the Truth yet so far you make Him out as nothing but a liar by the many tales you tell of Him. How come?

NB : I would very much appreciate it if you, in a statement or less, answered the questions posed, rather than shifting goalposts and introducing what amounts to fables when none of that is required here.

Kobojunkiee:
1. Again, back to the first question I asked you earlier, where in scripture is this claim you make here of the case before Jesus Christ stated. And please do not quote from a parable abeg because it seems you don't understand what an analogy/parable is meant for.

2. Again, where is all of this fairy tale you keep spewing spoken of by God Almighty, the one by whose power it all should have been made?

3. Again, Where in scripture did Almighty God inform you that when people die they end up in either this paradise or hell that you speak of?

4. So what you are insisting is that contrary to what Jesus Christ in fact said, everyone on earth previously had eternal life before He showed up — since you claim they would all be raised from the dead —advertising eternal life to them? Basically, you are insinuating that Jesus Christ's offering of Eternal life — life after death — in John 3 vs 16 was of fraud since you the condemned dead were not in fact condemned to perish in the grave but to rise again from their graves?

5. Jesus Christ tells the Truth yet so far you make Him out as nothing but a liar by the many tales you tell of Him. How come?

NB : I would very much appreciate it if you, in a statement or less, answered the questions posed, rather than shifting goalposts and introducing what amounts to fables when none of that is required here.

I am quite surprised....are you insinuating that the very things Jesus said out of His mouth and the very reality and actions that He carried out have become mere fables? Are all the Scriptures I earlier quoted to you now become "fables"?

Let me counter by asking you this. Was there a REAL Lazarus--brother of Mary and Martha--who died and was buried...but Jesus out of compassion BROUGHT him back from the dead? Remember, this very Lazarus whom Jesus brought back to life was not someone in a parable....but a real person. (I could infer that Jesus may have proceeded to make the parable of the rich man and Lazarus based in-part on what may have happened to this real Lazarus after he died).

Have you read Ecclesiastes 12:7? Here it is below:

Your body came from the earth.
And when you die, it will return to the earth.
But your spirit came from God,
and when you die, it will return to him.

The serious question is...for those who have lived a life of Wickedness in this world by rejecting Jesus Christ...will their spirits also return to God? Or will it be held in bondage by Hades and Death?

Let me ask you an interesting question....when Saul tried to summon the spirit of a righteous Samuel from the dead using the witch of Endor (even though it was stated clearly in the book of Deuteronomy that this was an abomination) from where did the spirit of Samuel come from?

13 The king said to her, “Do not be afraid. What do you see?” And the woman said to Sau[b]l, “I see a god coming up out of the earth.”[/b] 14 He said to her, “What is his appearance?” And she said, “An old man is coming up, and he is wrapped win a robe.” And Saul knew that it was Samuel, and he bowed with his face to the ground and paid homage.

15 Then Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” Saul answered, “I am in great distress, for the Philistines are warring against me, and God has turned away from me and answers me no more, either by prophets or by dreams. Therefore I have summoned you to tell me what I shall do.” 16 And Samuel said, “Why then do you ask me, since the Lord has turned from you and become your enemy? 17 The Lord has done to you as he spoke by me, for the Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hand and given it to your neighbor, David." 1st Samuel 28: 13 - 17

Remember, from the above Scripture, Samuel was already dead. When this woman summoned his spirit, Samuel's spirit did not come down from the sky, it rose up from the ground--or inside the earth, where the dead in the Old Testament right up to the dead and resurrection of Jesus Christ rested. In this regard, there had to be a separate place for the spirit of the righteous within the place of the dead as their spirits rested and waited for God's only Salvation in Jesus Christ to free them and make the way for every person and spirit dead in Christ to have their spirits finally "return back to God"

Did you not read that Jesus after His Resurrection brought back to life many saints who physically came out of their tombs and were seen by many in Jerusalem? Ar you saying the Bible that listed all this is fables too?

J3susFr3ak:
■ I am quite surprised....are you insinuating that the very things Jesus said out of His mouth and the very reality and actions that He carried out have become mere fables? Are all the Scriptures I earlier quoted to you now become "fables"?
Let me counter by asking you this. Was there a REAL Lazarus--brother of Mary and Martha--who died and was buried...but Jesus out of compassion BROUGHT him back from the dead? Remember, this very Lazarus whom Jesus brought back to life was not someone in a parable....but a real person. (I could infer that Jesus may have proceeded to make the parable of the rich man and Lazarus based in-part on what may have happened to this real Lazarus after he died).
■Have you read Ecclesiastes 12:7? The serious question is...for those who have lived a life of Wickedness in this world by rejecting Jesus Christ...will their spirits also return to God? Or will it be held in bondage by Hades and Death?
■ Let me ask you an interesting question....when Saul tried to summon the spirit of a righteous Samuel from the dead using the witch of Endor (even though it was stated clearly in the book of Deuteronomy that this was an abomination) from where did the spirit of Samuel come from? 1st Samuel 28: 13 - 17 Remember, from the above Scripture, Samuel was already dead. When this woman summoned his spirit, Samuel's spirit did not come down from the sky, it rose up from the ground--or inside the earth,
■ where the dead in the Old Testament right up to the dead and resurrection of Jesus Christ rested. In this regard, there had to be a separate place for the spirit of the righteous within the place of the dead as their spirits rested and waited for God's only Salvation in Jesus Christ to free them and make the way for every person and spirit dead in Christ to have their spirits finally "return back to God"
■ Did you not read that Jesus after His Resurrection brought back to life many saints who physically came out of their tombs and were seen by many in Jerusalem? Ar you saying the Bible that listed all this is fables too?

You can't seem to stay focused, can you? Please stop deviating and bringing in meaningless things when the question is pretty straightforward for you to answer here.

1. Lazarus who had two sisters Mary and Martha was obviously not a beggar and as such there is no direct link between him and the parable Jesus Christ told of Lazarus and the rich man. please try to stay focused.

2. The verse you quote from Ecclesiastes clearly states that the breath of God which formerly animated one goes back to God — its owner, it never belonged to man to begin with — when one dies whereas the man/body decays. That same breath of life animates even the amoeba and virus that was created by God — Genesis 6 vs 15. So, I am not certain what you think it is that particular verse helps you with.

3. Samuel was a righteous man of the Old Law and according to God's promise to Israel in His Old Law, only those of them who lived in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments would obtain LIfe after they die - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. God essentially restated this pact when He decreed in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 32 & Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 22 that the one who sins will die again reminding them that Death — from dust you were made and to dust you shall return - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 - is what awaits all those who die in sin according to the Old Law.

4. Now back to my previous again, where in scripture did Almighty God or even Jesus Christ tell you that there existed a separate place as you continue to claim?

5. According to Jesus Christ, by the accounts of 2 or 3 witnesses, shall truth be established. Apart from the claims made by Matthew of that, I have yet to run into any other accounts to buttress the claims made in the book of Matthew on that so that is still to be proven of fact. Jesus Christ said there would be a resurrection but He never said it would take place before His return.