ogunijebu18:

I never practiced ifa. I grew up in a church as a christian but i don't belive in jesus as god. So im now either an atheist or a jew but i have not studied judaism much apart from reading the old testament. I believe the old testament God is different to Jesus God.

Ọmọ you were a misinformed churchgoer back then not a Christian!

Were you following the orders from Jesus to go out with other disciples preaching {Matthew 28:19-20} from house to house in your neighbourhood? Matthew 10:11-13

Were you known in your neighbourhood as a preacher and teacher of God's word like Jesus taught his disciples to be fishers of men? Mark 1:17

Were you separated from those practicing interfaith in religion {Matthew 16:6, 12} while their teaching contradicts one another?

Can you travel to any part of the earth where you don't have anyone with full confidence that your fellow believers in Christ there will house you? Mark 10:28-30

Do you stay away from worldly political affairs that's leading people to kill people using racism as excuse? John 17:14

Do you wish well for those wishing you evil due to your faith in Christ Jesus? Luke 6:28

If you're not obeying all of these then what assured you that you're not just a misinformed churchgoer claiming Christian without any understanding of what Jesus commanded? Matthew 28:20

Kobojunkie:
1. Can you quote me saying exactly what you accuse me of abeg?

You cannot follow Jesus Christ if you do not worship — accept/submit to and obey — Him. This is not rocket science - John 14 vs 15 - 23.

2. As I explained, God Himself explained the terms as far as the prophets of Israel.
■ Was Jesus Christ not an Israelite who lived His life in submission and obedience to God's Old Law according to Deuteronomy 18 vs 18?
■ Was Jesus Christ not sent by God to the people - Isaiah 53?
■ Was Jesus Christ not a Lawgiver like Moses according to Deuteronomy 18 vs 18?
■ Was Jesus Christ not the Lawgiver whom God said would come from among the people of Israel but would be like Him, God [/color]- Deuteronomy 18 vs 15 & Isaiah 53?
■ Did Jesus Christ not see visions and prophesy - Numbers 12 vs 6?
■ Did Jesus Christ not confirm God's message through the prophets in His entire Gospels as opposed to lying to the people - Deuteronomy 13 vs 1 - 8?

Why do you have nothing to say about the law of moses and relationship with Jesus? Even calling him jesus christ alone is a lie. There are so many lies in Christianity its not even funny. His name was note even jesus. And not so called jesus was not a law giver because the law was already written.
Can you tell me what jesus prophesized that has happened? Cause yall just talk and think everyone should just play dumb to all the lies around the jesus character.

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ you were a misinformed churchgoer back then not a Christian!

Were you following the orders from Jesus to go out with other disciples preaching {Matthew 28:19-20} from house to house in your neighbourhood? Matthew 10:11-13

Were you known in your neighbourhood as a preacher and teacher of God's word like Jesus taught his disciples to be fishers of men? Mark 1:17

Were you separated from those practicing interfaith in religion {Matthew 16:6, 12} while their teaching contradicts one another?

Can you travel to any part of the earth where you don't have anyone with full confidence that your fellow believers in Christ there will house you? Mark 10:28-30

Do you stay away from worldly political affairs that's leading people to kill people using racism as excuse? John 17:14

Do you wish well for those wishing you evil due to your faith in Christ Jesus? Luke 6:28

If you're not obeying all of these then what assured you that you're not just a misinformed churchgoer claiming Christian without any understanding of what Jesus commanded? Matthew 28:20

Do you? if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me right now. Cause all of the LIES is eating you up inside.

ogunijebu18:
■ Why do you have nothing to say about the law of moses and relationship with Jesus?
■ Even calling him jesus christ alone is a lie.
■ There are so many lies in Christianity its not even funny. His name was note even jesus.
■ And not so called jesus was not a law giver because the law was already written.
■ Can you tell me what jesus prophesized that has happened?
■ Cause yall just talk and think everyone should just play dumb to all the lies around the jesus character.

1. Relationship with Jesus Christ in what sense?

2. Calling Him Jesus Christ alone is a lie? I don't follow!

3. I am not of the religion of Christianity, nor of the religion of Judaism, all of which have absolutely nothing to do with God, and so don't expect me to hold brief for any religion of man. I am simply a follower of Jesus Christ.

4. Actually, Jesus Christ is God's New Law and Covenant which He promised to establish for His people. I already explained that God promised and established 2 Nations, and each Nation with its own Law.

5. Everything He said would happen during the last days already took place about 1900 years ago.

6. Are you sure about that?

ogunijebu18:

Do you? if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me right now. Cause all of the LIES is eating you up inside.

Well i do all of these as one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Kobojunkie:
1. Relationship with Jesus Christ in what sense?

2. Calling Him Jesus Christ alone is a lie? I don't follow!

3. I am not of the religion of Christianity, nor of the religion of Judaism, all of which have absolutely nothing to do with God, and so don't expect me to hold brief for any religion of man. I am simply a follower of Jesus Christ.

4. Actually, Jesus Christ is God's New Law and Covenant which He promised to establish for His people. I already explained that God promised and established 2 Nations, and each Nation with its own Law.

5. Everything He said would happen during the last days already took place about 1900 years ago.

6. Are you sure about that?

I’m not arguing with someone who wants to play dumb. If you don’t want to respond with real proof then I’m not having this conversation anymore.
You said Christian don’t worship jesus then you said they do and now that gods law is jesus. But that Jesus is not god. You see how this sounds?

ogunijebu18:
■I’m not arguing with someone who wants to play dumb. If you don’t want to respond with real proof then I’m not having this conversation anymore.
■ You said Christian don’t worship jesus then you said they do and now that gods law is jesus. But that Jesus is not god. You see how this sounds?

1. I am not a mind reader, hence why I ask you to explain yourself a lot better, please.

2. For the umpteenth time, I never said that. All who follow Jesus Christ are called to worship Him— live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Law, and Truth in the Kingdom of God— is what I have said at least 3 times now. What part does your confusion stem from?

Kobojunkie:
1. I am not a mind reader, hence why I ask you to explain yourself a lot better, please.

2. For the umpteenth time, I never said that. All who follow Jesus Christ are called to worship Him— live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Law, and Truth in the Kingdom of God— is what I have said at least 3 times now. What part does your confusion stem from?

Why are you worshipping Jesus if he’s not god?

ogunijebu18:
■ Why are you worshipping Jesus if he’s not god?

1. But Jesus Christ is God and Law in the Kingdom of God. And as a as Law-abiding citizen it is my duty to trust and obey Him --worship Him. Why do you remain confused of this?

Kobojunkie:
1. But Jesus Christ is God and Law in the Kingdom of God. And as a as Law-abiding citizen it is my duty to trust and obey Him --worship Him. Why do you remain confused of this?

You JUST said he’s not GOD. Go reread your post and see whose really confused

ogunijebu18:
■ You JUST said he’s not GOD. Go reread your post and see whose really confused

Can you please repost my very words claiming that since I don't see what you see at all?

Kobojunkie:
Can you please repost my very words claiming that since I don't see what you see at all?

Well, YHWH is the God of Israel in the Land of Canaan — think of Him in terms of God — a Covenant/Constitutional Law — tied to a particular nation and people in this case, the people of Israel. While Jesus Christ is God in the Kingdom of God — God's special Nation of Priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 - in which only those who are sinners of Isreal are admitted. Again, this a separate nation from the first, and hence a different Constitution as well. undecided

So which one is God then. Yahweh or Jesus?

ogunijebu18:
■ Well, YHWH is the God of Israel in the Land of Canaan — think of Him in terms of God — a Covenant/Constitutional Law — tied to a particular nation and people in this case, the people of Israel. While Jesus Christ is God in the Kingdom of God — God's special Nation of Priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 - in which only those who are sinners of Isreal are admitted. Again, this a separate nation from the first, and hence a different Constitution as well. undecided

So which one is God then. Yahweh or Jesus?

Both of them are God. Did you not bother to read what I posted at all?

Kobojunkie:
Both of them are God. Did you not bother to read what I posted at all?

What makes a “God”?