Kobojunkie:
shoo fly! Go enter corner behind your GBz since you refuse to think for your own self.

I did not
I also ask questions
Deep questions when i read my Bible and pray that God should guide my thoughts.
When i want tk read, i ask God to come beside me and teach me like a father to a small child and where i have problems in understanding, i explore further instead or simply accept i don't know or will understand later. There are many things i did not understand last year, 2 years ago that i nkw fully understand. Learning is dynamic.
Unlike someone with flawed reasoning thag will tell you thag the first man was created with the ability to sin but not sin
Such junk!

Aemmyjah:
■ I did not I also ask questions Deep questions when i read my Bible and pray that God should guide my thoughts. When i want tk read, i ask God to come beside me and teach me like a father to a small child and where i have problems in understanding, i explore further instead or simply accept i don't know or will understand later. There are many things i did not understand last year, 2 years ago that i nkw fully understand. Learning is dynamic.
Unlike someone with flawed reasoning thag will tell you thag the first man was created with the ability to sin but not sin
Such junk!

1. Stop lying! You and I know that the reason you ask those ridiculous questions that you do is not out of sincere interest in the Truth of God but rather to — against Scripture and God even — continue to promote the fallacies that are the doctrines and traditions of your GBs, and nothing else. This is made clear by the fact that you conveniently ignore all evidence provided directly from Scripture, in order that you can continue to assert that which you have been fed by your pastors and mogs. That is what is referred to as flawed reasoning.

Girlee:
One thing I know is this.
The Bible doesn't contradict itself. You just haven't read with an understanding.
You should yield into the ministry of the Holy Spirit. He's a good teacher.
The Bible isn't a story book you read and question anyhow.
It's complete and perfect. We just need help from the Holy Spirit to understand certain things.

It's not wise to argu on what God has said.

You'd better stop arguing with Kobojunkie for your own good
She's keeps contradicting herself and the scripture
You yourself can see it and knkw when to end a discussion

She says the action of the sons of God on women is not an evil (sin) against God. What then is it? A righteous deed

All books and letters ij the Bible form the scriptures, she has her own exceptions based on what Paul wrote to Timothy.
The more you converse, the more you see it for yourself

Kobojunkie:
1. Stop lying! You and I know that the reason you ask those ridiculous questions that you do is not out of sincere interest in the Truth of God but rather to — against Scripture and God even — continue to promote the fallacies that are the doctrines and traditions of your GBs, and nothing else. This is made clear by the fact that you conveniently ignore all evidence provided directly from Scripture, in order that you can continue to assert that which you have been fed by your pastors and mogs. That is what is referred to as flawed reasoning.

I will ask you just 5 simple questions
Ask any pastor, you will never get it right
I have and know the answers but you won't
Just 5 only
There are many but I wil give you the simplest 5 and that wil be like a mysterious puzzle to you
I am a lover of knowledge. Sometimes, the things I learn, i share with my brothers in the congregation and i learn from them too and we are wowed. We dig deeper. Unlike you that display shallow knowledge like the pharisees in Jesus time

Aemmyjah:
■ I will ask you just 5 simple questions Ask any pastor, you will never get it right I have and know the answers but you won't Just 5 only There are many but I wil give you the simplest 5 and that wil be like a mysterious puzzle to you I am a lover of knowledge. Sometimes, the things I learn, i share with my brothers in the congregation and i learn from them too and we are wowed. We dig deeper. Unlike you that display shallow knowledge like the pharisees in Jesus time

Am I supposed to be entertained by these mindless religious garbles you spew or what? If you don't have anything intelligent to say regarding the topic, kindly resist the urge to waste space on this thread, something you religious cases think of as some sort of argument winning tactic.

Kobojunkie:
Am I supposed to be entertained by these mindless religious garbles you spew or what? If you don't have anything intelligent to say regarding the topic, kindly resist the urge to waste space on this thread, something you religious cases think of as some sort of argument winning tactic.

Lol
Then keep running
You accused me of listening to the GB without gaining understanding for myself
You wey sabi nkor, keep running

nams77:
■ People of those days live veeeerry long. Don't you think Adam had other children who also had children and who may grow up to still meet Cain?
Isn't that possible? I have tasted Jehovah on a personal level and nothing will make my doubt him- consistency or inconsistency! EOD

The book you hold in your hand is not YHWH nor is it Holy or inerrant — no part of the book, not even the Prophets, made that claim.

Aemmyjah:


You'd better stop arguing with Kobojunkie for your own good
She's keeps contradicting herself and the scripture
You yourself can see it and knkw when to end a discussion

She says the action of the sons of God on women is not an evil (sin) against God. What then is it? A righteous deed

All books and letters ij the Bible form the scriptures, she has her own exceptions based on what Paul wrote to Timothy.
The more you converse, the more you see it for yourself

I'm done with the argument already. I try as much as I can to avoid arguments like that.
Thanks for letting me know this. I appreciate

Aemmyjah:


You are correct dear
Don't mind Kobojunkie
She's claiming christian but fighting against everything in the Bible

Another word for contradiction is inaccuracies
Why will Jehovah, the Author of the Bible allow inaccuracies in his book?
Human authors have tried hard to ensure that their works are accurate, how much more God?

Where they fail to gain understanding, instead of humbling themselves, they say the Bible is nit accurate

Thanks a lot!

Kobojunkie:
The book you hold in your hand is not YHWH nor is it Holy or inerrant — no part of the book, not even the Prophets, made that claim.

You guys make me laugh. You can take your rambling semantics elsewhere. I said I have had one on one encounter with Jehovah and that is what I rely on. Don't bother expecting a response from me. I'm done. Bye. EOD

Cc@lucifyre

Girlee:



Maybe you should read from another version of the bible.
Yours could be one of those Bibles that have been tampered with. The type that some people would intentionally omit words from.

King James version: Genesis 6:1-5 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Check it out by yourself. If you're not satisfied with the King James Version, you should try the New International Version (NIV)

You better stop arguing with Kobojunkie. She is notorious for reading and interpreting the bible upside down

Kobojunkie:
Here's a mistake that most make going to read from Scripture, you go in expecting it to conform to a story you have been fed about what is written in it. Here are some ideas that are not expressed in the above passage which you seem to take with you.
■ Nowhere in the passage above does it state that the sons of God did evil against God when they took for themselves wives of the daughters of men.
■ Nowhere in the passage above is it written that God chose to punish mankind because of the actions of the Sons of God. The assumption that God punished men because the Sons of God mated with the daughters of men is non-Scriptural. Pay close attention to what God is written to have said in verse 1-4, "People are all human..." Even after the matings with the Sons of God, the people remained all human— not Sons of God, but all human.
■ The Nephilim, mentioned in that passage bear no direct connection, to the Sons of God. Rather they are connected to the ancients, most likely Adam himself or his direct descendants.

2. Every race we have on earth today can be traced back to pretty much the same ancestry. Why do you conveniently exclude the race of giants from this same?

3. To your claim that the bible expires, I am not certain what you mean. I mean the book itself is worm food. Rather, the Word of God is what one is meant to focus on and that is, as stated in Scripture, everlasting — never expiring.

Why must you derail every thread with arguments??

nams77:
■ You guys make me laugh. You can take your rambling semantics elsewhere. I said I have had one on one encounter with Jehovah and that is what I rely on. Don't bother expecting a response from me. I'm done. Bye. EOD

So you had an encounter with the same YHWH who put a seal --- finalized ---- on prophets and visions of His Old Law of Moses almost 1900 years ago - Daniel 9 vs 24 - 27? Do you realize you would be calling YHWH a liar if this is indeed what you claim?

Lucifyre:
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You made the following statement: "The entire word of GOD is harmonious and consistent... so try, by GOD's grace to look for reasons to believe rather than to doubt.... childlike faith is necessary, not flawed human assertions based in pride or ignorance."

I'm going to press x to doubt the bolded. If its harmonious and consistent as you say then it'll be free from contradictions. It wouldn't say A here and the next minute say B right? Or am i missing the meaning of harmonious and consistent.

If it is explain to me the following, some of which ive mentioned on this thread. Im all ears and open to your views.

1.) Who did Cain and Seth get married to? Its two things its either there were other people which contradicts the story or they married and slept with their sisters as they were the only ones on earth which is a sin and contradicts according to Leviticus 20:19. Was incest not a sin then or it became one later. Did God change his mind? Does he change his mind?

2.) The number of pairs of clean animals that God told Noah to take into the Ark? Genesis 6:19 - 20 says 2, Genesis 7:2 says 7. That's not harmonious and consistent is it??

3.) In GEN 6 v 3, God reduced the life span of man to 120yrs. But in Gen 11 v 12 -16 in events after the reduction, it lists a lot of people that lived past 120... So... Quite contradictory... Or did God change his mind. Does he change his mind?

4.) About the laws of Moses been usefu? Yes “All scripture is... profitable...” 2 Timothy 3:16. No. “ . . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness... “(Hebrews 7:18). Which is it?

5.) No one has ever seen God 1 John 4:12

No man has seen or can see God 1 Timothy 6:16

But The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day Genesis 18:1.

The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend Exodus 33:11.

All these dont look harmonious and consistent to me, they look like contradictions 3xcept u can explain them away to which ill say shoot. But I seriously doubt that. There are so many more ive come across with no one able to explain. Instead they get angry and defensive, resulting to ad hominems like u have. If u can explain these few be my guest. Ill be happy to gain understanding.

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I will respond to at least a couple of points to establish your miscomprehension, thus summarily and incorrectly concluding and attributing to the Holy Bible... fallibility.

Also... how have I engaged in ad hominem attacks, that is, attacks "directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."? I have no interest is such... only in sharing the word of GOD in truth so that others can benefit.

1. Clearly the children of Adam and Eve would have to have intermarried, and so on... something that was not only genetically different prior to the flood, but the law regarding the impermissibility of such wasn't given until approximately 2, 500 years later! In the meantime GOD commanded humankind to multiply!

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.[/b]” - Genesis 1:27-28

"Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound...." - Romans 5:20

So, you argument is moot on this point.

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5. No one living on this planet can see or has seen GOD in person in HIS full Glory because GOD said "[b]...for no man shall see Me, and live.” - Exodus 33:20... Also, "Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father." - John 6:46, and "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form." - John 5:38

However GOD, in mercifully interacting with HIS creatures - at our level - allowed Himself to be seen in pertinent part:

"And the Lord said, “Here is a place by Me, and you shall stand on the rock. So it shall be, while My glory passes by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock, and will cover you with My hand while I pass by. Then I will take away My hand, and you shall see My back; but My face shall not be seen.” - Exodus 33:21-23

... and more prominently as a Christophany - an appearance or non-physical manifestation of Christ, or HIS Theophany or Incarnation in both the old and new testaments accounts

Appearance to Abraham - Genesis 18:1
Appearance with and to save Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the fiery furnace - Daniel 3:16-28
Appearance to Samson's parents - Genesis 13:18-22
Appearance to Joshua - Joshua 5:13-14

As well as appearances throughout HIS incarnation, including after HIS resurrection....
"Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?" - John 14:9

Conclusion - you must either understand within context or parabolically - by GOD's grace - to understand and agree with the Holy Bible and its harmonious infallibility. So, let us humbly pray that the Lord GOD will mercifully reveals HIS truths to us for our benefit and HIS glory!

"But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." - 1 Corinthians 2:14

Aemmyjah:


I will ask you just 5 simple questions
Ask any pastor, you will never get it right
I have and know the answers but you won't
Just 5 only
There are many but I wil give you the simplest 5 and that wil be like a mysterious puzzle to you
I am a lover of knowledge. Sometimes, the things I learn, i share with my brothers in the congregation and i learn from them too and we are wowed. We dig deeper. Unlike you that display shallow knowledge like the pharisees in Jesus time

lost false jw aemmy

well go ahead and ask junkie the 5 simple questions that show you
know things that no one else know

or are you just a puffed up bag of flatulance

johnw47:


lost false jw aemmy

well go ahead and ask junkie the 5 simple questions that show you
know things that no one else know

or are you just a puffed up bag of flatulance

Shoo away
I know yiur aim but yiu won't get it

Aemmyjah:
Shoo away
I know yiur aim but yiu won't get it

lost false jw aemmy

look at you running away oh hypocrite

Aemmyjah: Lol
Then keep running
You accused me of listening to the GB without gaining understanding for myself
You wey sabi nkor, keep running

Mat_23:27  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.