Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,156,830 members, 7,831,695 topics. Date: Saturday, 18 May 2024 at 02:08 AM

Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos - Politics - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos (1270 Views)

Yoruba In Badagry Are From Ile-ife, Not Ghana – High Chief Wawu / Displaced Yoruba In Akwa Ibom Crisis Beg Govt, Police For Help / Farooq Kperogi: Clarity On Tinubu’s Age And Postsecondary Education (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (Reply) (Go Down)

Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by ImperialYoruba: 4:08pm On Jun 08, 2023
1. Igbos are Nigerians so they have the right that every Nigerian have.

2. Lagos was former capital of Nigeria and every Nigerian have equal right in it.

3. What are the things in Lagos that you want only Yorubas to enjoy that other tribes shouldn't enjoy?

4. I just want to know these things that an average Yoruba man should enjoy in Lagos that shouldn't be available for other tribes


These questions about status of Lagos, and many similar to it, are very good questions to ask and discuss considering where we are politically, culturally, socially and economically.

I am going to provide my own clarity and help initiate what I hope will be a rich interaction to further educate and put everybody in their place and calm frustrations and anxiety. The answers are outlined structurally to aid understanding, and not aligned with the order the questions above are itemized.

1. Nigeria as a country is diverse in all its aspects of customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and organization. These elements of society are the defines around which communities are properly identified. What makes me a Yoruba person is also the quality that denies me identity as an Ibo or Hausa person. My identity is defined to a root and that root is built on customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and so on. This is our diversity, it should be cherished. Those who refuse to cherish their root identity are quick to embrace the identity offered them by the Constitution of Nigeria. So what identity has the Constitution offered to anyone?

2. The Nigerian Constitution has never denied its subordinate status to the customary order that pre-existed formation of Nigeria. It speaks of unity because it acknowledges a diversity which exist naturally and possess a tendency to do so independently if left without a legal framework for harmonization.

In other words, Nigerian Constitution is a framework for bringing people together who naturally do not belong together and will not stay peacefully together but have potentials which if tied in a partnership of harmony could lead to evolution of a better society overall.

Let me repeat this one more time. Nigerian Constitution is not a divine order. It is a document intended to hold together a partnership for progressive and better society that profits all groups.

Nigerian Constitution therefore creates avenues for Yoruba living in Iboland or Hausaland to harmonise with the customs and traditions of that foreign land so he can profit from them, and he does not conduct himself in ways which bring disharmony to the Ibos or Hausas on their indigeneous land. If this is achieved the harmonious state results in better society. This is similar for Hausaman living in Ibo or Yorubaland. It is also compelling on Iboman living in Hausaland or Yorubaland to do so in harmony with the land.

When this harmony is broken or thrown off balance then the Constitution is breached and a means of intervention must be applied to restore harmony using the privileged divine order. When the disharmony is multiplied in the frequency at which it occurs, or the sources from which it is acted, then a general state of diminished returns in profitability, resourcefulness and animosity will develop that pushes more and more into the risk areas that the Constitution was formulated to prevent, i.e. a tendency for the diverse peoples to exist independently and uncooperative...or at extreme points to attack one another.

We are currently in that risk zone. The predominance of our interaction across our diverse identities and at every strata of society, up from traditional rulers, political leaders, corporate leaders, down to the street beggar, has been that of antagonism and in each other's throat. The steam is bottled in and under intense pressure, one way or the other it must explode. To prevent an explosion an intervention is needed to vent the steam under a supervised arrangement.

What is the root cause of the disharmony?

3. History of ancestry and privileged civilization. Part of the diversity in Nigeria takes root in historical civilization and urban evolution. The ethnic groups of Nigeria do not have relatable history, we developed each in different dimensions and pace. At the top of the food chain of civilization is Yoruba. From here it rolls down with different groups gaining civilization and urbanism centuries later.

If we are looking to pick five top early civilized groups, and those who in turn civilized others it will be Yoruba, Benin, Kanuri, Hausa, Nupe in that order. These were pre colonial and pre Nigeria civilizations.

There is a secondary and modern civilization that occurred in time of colonial intervention. This is with Western ideology substituting itself in place of ancestral civilization and philosophies. In this secondary wave is where we find Ibo and a host of other minority groups.

The majority groups in Nigeria ought to have aligned with historical majority but Britain used vendetta against Benin to elevate Ibo above Benin kingdom, thus Ibo was accorded majority political status alongside Yoruba in West and Hausa in North. To update Ibo and give it equal footing for administrative authority under indirect rule, the colonists appointed administrators to be king over their territories. A people of deficient civilization have now been upgraded and treated as equal with societies that have maintained centuries of civilized evolution, many elements of which even surpass that credited to Roman Empire. Ibo was still a slave class when the powers of Benin Kingdom was at its peak. But now the Kingdom is made subservient to the slave. Britain stole not only the treasures of Benin, they also looted its history and status.

The modernity of Ibo upgrade is the root cause of disharmony in Nigeria today.

The power to manage their own development is poor, and so they are found wanting and devoid of skills and prowess to exercise the responsibilities of a majority and politically relevant society across the Nigerian terrain. Consequently, their inability to exercise leadership has resulted in clashes and despise across all regions and brought disharmony and flagrant violations of the code of civilized living. To mask their extreme deficiency they hide under the provisions of Constitution and pretend to be civilized and deserving of civilized treatment on foreign lands.

4. Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and no one group owns it. There is nowhere in the Constitution of Nigeria where Lagos is defined as former capital of Nigeria. Lagos is defined as a State, like Sokoto, Abia, Bayelsa, Kogi. No more no less. It is hearsay to keep throwing that label out while defending yourself as eligible for Constitutional protection in Lagos. The Constitution you hide under has not told you that Lagos was a former capital...but it tells you Lagos is a State. Therefore accept Lagos as defined in Constitution, a State!

Do Ibo have rights in Lagos? Yes, they do. They have rights and obligations. It is their obligation to live in harmony with other people in Lagos so everybody can enjoy a cooperative relationship and profit overall. Of all Nigerians living in Lagos, Ibo stand out as the least willing to promote harmony. At every opportunity Ibo is antagonizing and belligerent. Again to return to constitution, only the indigenes with ancestral roots of any place have "privileged" rights on their land. All others have freedom to live on the land with conditions. Constitution of Nigeria has never given anyone absolute right. The constitution gives relative rights.

In order words, it recognizes that conditions are not uniform as you go from one section of Nigeria to another. Therefore what is obtainable in East is not so in West. There are conditions and aspects of social norms which are standard and a default in West, but is foreign and strange in East. When an Easterner is present in West he is allowed to also live and enjoy in these peculiarities of social life in West RELATIVE TO building a better and more progressive and evolving society.

The constitution is thus paraphrased "We so so so people, IN ORDER TO BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY hereby commit ourselves...blah blah blah.....

If your living in West denies the rights of others for progressive existence, the constitution gives them a supreme right over you, and limits your privilege while you are physically present in West.

The indigenes of Lagos share a civilization that is common and binding with other Yoruba Kingdom-States. This is ancestral. This ancestry is exclusive. Therefore a Yoruba in Lagos, whether indigene of Lagos or indigene of Offa or Jebba or Lokoja by order of divine ancestral lineage are authorized by the constitution to exercise privileged living anywhere in Yorubaland. Similar authority exist for Emirates. The Emirate of Sokoto, Kano, Adamawa, Zaria, and much as this is not palatable...Ilorin included, have ancestry that are not same as Yoruba. They are who they are, and have exercise of privileged authority in their domains as far it stretches. Ibo kings have their own domain of authority and includes privileges that Hausa or Yoruba in Iboland cannot contest by virtue of Constitution.

So why do others understand this relationship and conform to upholding it but Ibo on other hand continues to pride itself as a spoiler of the Nigerian unity and harmony?

Leaders of the Nigerian nation need to truly review the question of "Ibo amongst us" and put it to rest. We need harmony in Nigeria, and Ibo has shown tome and again on numerous instances of nationhood that it is unwilling to coexist in harmony with anyone. Then divest them out of Nigeria so their burden does not stop generality of Nigerians from progressing and profiting from our partnering.

Contribute inputs.

5 Likes 3 Shares

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Sablexxxtoons: 4:11pm On Jun 08, 2023
Lol see thesis
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Jennie002: 4:14pm On Jun 08, 2023
Sablexxxtoons:
Lol see thesis
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by beejaay: 4:16pm On Jun 08, 2023
ImperialYoruba:
1. Igbos are Nigerians so they have the right that every Nigerian have.

2. Lagos was former capital of Nigeria and every Nigerian have equal right in it.

3. What are the things in Lagos that you want only Yorubas to enjoy that other tribes shouldn't enjoy?

4. I just want to know these things that an average Yoruba man should enjoy in Lagos that shouldn't be available for other tribes


These questions about status of Lagos, and many similar to it, are very good questions to ask and discuss considering where we are politically, culturally, socially and economically.

I am going to provide my own clarity and help initiate what I hope will be a rich interaction to further educate and put everybody in their place and calm frustrations and anxiety. The answers are outlined structurally to aid understanding, and not aligned with the order the questions above are itemized.

1. Nigeria as a country is diverse in all its aspects of customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and organization. These elements of society are the defines around which communities are properly identified. What makes me a Yoruba person is also the quality that denies me identity as an Ibo or Hausa person. My identity is defined to a root and that root is built on customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and so on. This is our diversity, it should be cherished. Those who refuse to cherish their root identity are quick to embrace the identity offered them by the Constitution of Nigeria. So what identity has the Constitution offered to anyone?

2. The Nigerian Constitution has never denied its subordinate status to the customary order that pre-existed formation of Nigeria. It speaks of unity because it acknowledges a diversity which exist naturally and possess a tendency to do so independently if left without a legal framework for harmonization.

In other words, Nigerian Constitution is a framework for bringing people together who naturally do not belong together and will not stay peacefully together but have potentials which if tied in a partnership of harmony could lead to evolution of a better society overall.

Let me repeat this one more time. Nigerian Constitution is not a divine order. It is a document intended to hold together a partnership for progressive and better society that profits all groups.

Nigerian Constitution therefore creates avenues for Yoruba living in Iboland or Hausaland to harmonise with the customs and traditions of that foreign land so he can profit from them, and he does not conduct himself in ways which bring disharmony to the Ibos or Hausas on their indigeneous land. If this is achieved the harmonious state results in better society. This is similar for Hausaman living in Ibo or Yorubaland. It is also compelling on Iboman living in Hausaland or Yorubaland to do so in harmony with the land.

When this harmony is broken or thrown off balance then the Constitution is breached and a means of intervention must be applied to restore harmony using the privileged divine order. When the disharmony is multiplied in the frequency at which it occurs, or the sources from which it is acted, then a general state of diminished returns in profitability, resourcefulness and animosity will develop that pushes more and more into the risk areas that the Constitution was formulated to prevent, i.e. a tendency for the diverse peoples to exist independently and uncooperative...or at extreme points to attack one another.

We are currently in that risk zone. The predominance of our interaction across our diverse identities and at every strata of society, up from traditional rulers, political leaders, corporate leaders, down to the street beggar, has been that of antagonism and in each other's throat. The steam is bottled in and under intense pressure, one way or the other it must explode. To prevent an explosion an intervention is needed to vent the steam under a supervised arrangement.

What is the root cause of the disharmony?

3. History of ancestry and privileged civilization. Part of the diversity in Nigeria takes root in historical civilization and urban evolution. The ethnic groups of Nigeria do not have relatable history, we developed each in different dimensions and pace. At the top of the food chain of civilization is Yoruba. From here it rolls down with different groups gaining civilization and urbanism centuries later.

If we are looking to pick five top early civilized groups, and those who in turn civilized others it will be Yoruba, Benin, Kanuri, Hausa, Nupe in that order. These were pre colonial and pre Nigeria civilizations.

There is a secondary and modern civilization that occurred in time of colonial intervention. This is with Western ideology substituting itself in place of ancestral civilization and philosophies. In this secondary wave is where we find Ibo and a host of other minority groups.

The majority groups in Nigeria ought to have aligned with historical majority but Britain used vendetta against Benin to elevate Ibo above Benin kingdom, thus Ibo was accorded majority political status alongside Yoruba in West and Hausa in North. To update Ibo and give it equal footing for administrative authority under indirect rule, the colonists appointed administrators to be king over their territories. A people of deficient civilization have now been upgraded and treated as equal with societies that have maintained centuries of civilized evolution, many elements of which even surpass that credited to Roman Empire. Ibo was still a slave class when the powers of Benin Kingdom was at its peak. But now the Kingdom is made subservient to the slave. Britain stole not only the treasures of Benin, they also looted its history and status.

The modernity of Ibo upgrade is the root cause of disharmony in Nigeria today.

The power to manage their own development is poor, and so they are found wanting and devoid of skills and prowess to exercise the responsibilities of a majority and politically relevant society across the Nigerian terrain. Consequently, their inability to exercise leadership has resulted in clashes and despise across all regions and brought disharmony and flagrant violations of the code of civilized living. To mask their extreme deficiency they hide under the provisions of Constitution and pretend to be civilized and deserving of civilized treatment on foreign lands.

4. Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and no one group owns it. There is nowhere in the Constitution of Nigeria where Lagos is defined as former capital of Nigeria. Lagos is defined as a State, like Sokoto, Abia, Bayelsa, Kogi. No more no less. It is hearsay to keep throwing that label out while defending yourself as eligible for Constitutional protection in Lagos. The Constitution you hide under has not told you that Lagos was a former capital...but it tells you Lagos is a State. Therefore accept Lagos as defined in Constitution, a State!

Do Ibo have rights in Lagos? Yes, they do. They have rights and obligations. It is their obligation to live in harmony with other people in Lagos so everybody can enjoy a cooperative relationship and profit overall. Of all Nigerians living in Lagos, Ibo stand out as the least willing to promote harmony. At every opportunity Ibo is antagonizing and belligerent. Again to return to constitution, only the indigenes with ancestral roots of any place have "privileged" rights on their land. All others have freedom to live on the land with conditions. Constitution of Nigeria has never given anyone absolute right. The constitution gives relative rights.

In order words, it recognizes that conditions are not uniform as you go from one section of Nigeria to another. Therefore what is obtainable in East is not so in West. There are conditions and aspects of social norms which are standard and a default in West, but is foreign and strange in East. When an Easterner is present in West he is allowed to also live and enjoy in these peculiarities of social life in West RELATIVE TO building a better and more progressive and evolving society.

The constitution is thus paraphrased "We so so so people, IN ORDER TO BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY hereby commit ourselves...blah blah blah.....

If your living in West denies the rights of others for progressive existence, the constitution gives them a supreme right over you, and limits your privilege while you are physically present in West.

The indigenes of Lagos share a civilization that is common and binding with other Yoruba Kingdom-States. This is ancestral. This ancestry is exclusive. Therefore a Yoruba in Lagos, whether indigene of Lagos or indigene of Offa or Jebba or Lokoja by order of divine ancestral lineage are authorized by the constitution to exercise privileged living anywhere in Yorubaland. Similar authority exist for Emirates. The Emirate of Sokoto, Kano, Adamawa, Zaria, and much as this is not palatable...Ilorin included, have ancestry that are not same as Yoruba. They are who they are, and have exercise of privileged authority in their domains as far it stretches. Ibo kings have their own domain of authority and includes privileges that Hausa or Yoruba in Iboland cannot contest by virtue of Constitution.

So why do others understand this relationship and conform to upholding it but Ibo on other hand continues to pride itself as a spoiler of the Nigerian unity and harmony?

Leaders of the Nigerian nation need to truly review the question of "Ibo amongst us" and put it to rest. We need harmony in Nigeria, and Ibo has shown tome and again on numerous instances of nationhood that it is unwilling to coexist in harmony with anyone. Then divest them out of Nigeria so their burden does not stop generality of Nigerians from progressing and profiting from our partnering.

Contribute inputs.

Thesis ontop lies... lagos is for lagosian and only lagos indigene should be protected by their laws... an Ekiti man cant becoe a gov in osun state and an offa man cant become a senator in ogun state...dont add up what is not adding.. Im an indigene of Ilorin and shouldnt be dragging lagos with a lagosian because im yoruba.. mr man go back to your state and claim indigene or contest...

15 Likes 1 Share

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Jogs1900: 4:21pm On Jun 08, 2023
What I know is that the lawmakers have the duty to protect their ancestral land which is Lagos.
For instance if you've lived in the north west, female southerners cover their hair.Another thing is that in the north west, you dare not consume alcohol openly irrespective of your tribe or origin.Lastly, in the northwest during Ramadan, nobody dares eat outside and nobody has ever challenged these in the court.
People abide by these unwritten laws because that is what the indigenes want.

For peace to reign in Lagos, the south easterners should respect the Yorubas in Lagos.They are your host.

6 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by MadamExcellency: 4:23pm On Jun 08, 2023
All this grammar because Tinubu lost Lagos State to Peter Obi?

Tufiakwa

14 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by lastmessenger: 4:29pm On Jun 08, 2023
Why is this ewedu people constituting nuisance all over the internet? Lagos this Igbo that yet Igbo have never fought you since the beginning of their stay in Lagos. They do their business and contribute to the state yet your hydraulic soup infested brain can't just be satisfied.
They shouldn't make noise and do nothing. Let them make that law and let's see how it will make shinedu not to progress.

7 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by gabbytabby: 4:39pm On Jun 08, 2023
We they ask them questions about the rights of indigenes in Alaigbo?

Sablexxxtoons:
Lol see thesis
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by richidinho(m): 5:01pm On Jun 08, 2023
During elections only yoruba should go out and vote

May be thats what they want

5 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by ImperialYoruba: 5:08pm On Jun 08, 2023
richidinho:
During elections only yoruba should go out and vote

May be thats what they want

Who does Ibo vote help?

4 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by richidinho(m): 5:15pm On Jun 08, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


Who does Ibo vote help?

Where did you see igbo in my comment?

5 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by donbachi(m): 5:16pm On Jun 08, 2023
Non indigene properties dey enter their eyes.

5 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by pandoragirigory: 5:18pm On Jun 08, 2023
Since the
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by OloyeVIII: 5:19pm On Jun 08, 2023
Lemme just count the bigots!
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by pandoragirigory: 5:24pm On Jun 08, 2023
MadamExcellency:
All this grammar because Tinubu lost Lagos State to Peter Obi?

Tufiakwa
Peter Obi is now the president of beer company owners association of Nigeria after winning Lagos, he is in Aso rock in Agulu, God bless Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu Jagaban the Eze-Chukwu of Igbo land

5 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by plaindealer: 5:33pm On Jun 08, 2023
ImperialYoruba:
1. Igbos are Nigerians so they have the right that every Nigerian have.

2. Lagos was former capital of Nigeria and every Nigerian have equal right in it.

3. What are the things in Lagos that you want only Yorubas to enjoy that other tribes shouldn't enjoy?

4. I just want to know these things that an average Yoruba man should enjoy in Lagos that shouldn't be available for other tribes


These questions about status of Lagos, and many similar to it, are very good questions to ask and discuss considering where we are politically, culturally, socially and economically.

I am going to provide my own clarity and help initiate what I hope will be a rich interaction to further educate and put everybody in their place and calm frustrations and anxiety. The answers are outlined structurally to aid understanding, and not aligned with the order the questions above are itemized.

1. Nigeria as a country is diverse in all its aspects of customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and organization. These elements of society are the defines around which communities are properly identified. What makes me a Yoruba person is also the quality that denies me identity as an Ibo or Hausa person. My identity is defined to a root and that root is built on customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and so on. This is our diversity, it should be cherished. Those who refuse to cherish their root identity are quick to embrace the identity offered them by the Constitution of Nigeria. So what identity has the Constitution offered to anyone?

2. The Nigerian Constitution has never denied its subordinate status to the customary order that pre-existed formation of Nigeria. It speaks of unity because it acknowledges a diversity which exist naturally and possess a tendency to do so independently if left without a legal framework for harmonization.

In other words, Nigerian Constitution is a framework for bringing people together who naturally do not belong together and will not stay peacefully together but have potentials which if tied in a partnership of harmony could lead to evolution of a better society overall.

Let me repeat this one more time. Nigerian Constitution is not a divine order. It is a document intended to hold together a partnership for progressive and better society that profits all groups.

Nigerian Constitution therefore creates avenues for Yoruba living in Iboland or Hausaland to harmonise with the customs and traditions of that foreign land so he can profit from them, and he does not conduct himself in ways which bring disharmony to the Ibos or Hausas on their indigeneous land. If this is achieved the harmonious state results in better society. This is similar for Hausaman living in Ibo or Yorubaland. It is also compelling on Iboman living in Hausaland or Yorubaland to do so in harmony with the land.

When this harmony is broken or thrown off balance then the Constitution is breached and a means of intervention must be applied to restore harmony using the privileged divine order. When the disharmony is multiplied in the frequency at which it occurs, or the sources from which it is acted, then a general state of diminished returns in profitability, resourcefulness and animosity will develop that pushes more and more into the risk areas that the Constitution was formulated to prevent, i.e. a tendency for the diverse peoples to exist independently and uncooperative...or at extreme points to attack one another.

We are currently in that risk zone. The predominance of our interaction across our diverse identities and at every strata of society, up from traditional rulers, political leaders, corporate leaders, down to the street beggar, has been that of antagonism and in each other's throat. The steam is bottled in and under intense pressure, one way or the other it must explode. To prevent an explosion an intervention is needed to vent the steam under a supervised arrangement.

What is the root cause of the disharmony?

3. History of ancestry and privileged civilization. Part of the diversity in Nigeria takes root in historical civilization and urban evolution. The ethnic groups of Nigeria do not have relatable history, we developed each in different dimensions and pace. At the top of the food chain of civilization is Yoruba. From here it rolls down with different groups gaining civilization and urbanism centuries later.

If we are looking to pick five top early civilized groups, and those who in turn civilized others it will be Yoruba, Benin, Kanuri, Hausa, Nupe in that order. These were pre colonial and pre Nigeria civilizations.

There is a secondary and modern civilization that occurred in time of colonial intervention. This is with Western ideology substituting itself in place of ancestral civilization and philosophies. In this secondary wave is where we find Ibo and a host of other minority groups.

The majority groups in Nigeria ought to have aligned with historical majority but Britain used vendetta against Benin to elevate Ibo above Benin kingdom, thus Ibo was accorded majority political status alongside Yoruba in West and Hausa in North. To update Ibo and give it equal footing for administrative authority under indirect rule, the colonists appointed administrators to be king over their territories. A people of deficient civilization have now been upgraded and treated as equal with societies that have maintained centuries of civilized evolution, many elements of which even surpass that credited to Roman Empire. Ibo was still a slave class when the powers of Benin Kingdom was at its peak. But now the Kingdom is made subservient to the slave. Britain stole not only the treasures of Benin, they also looted its history and status.

The modernity of Ibo upgrade is the root cause of disharmony in Nigeria today.

The power to manage their own development is poor, and so they are found wanting and devoid of skills and prowess to exercise the responsibilities of a majority and politically relevant society across the Nigerian terrain. Consequently, their inability to exercise leadership has resulted in clashes and despise across all regions and brought disharmony and flagrant violations of the code of civilized living. To mask their extreme deficiency they hide under the provisions of Constitution and pretend to be civilized and deserving of civilized treatment on foreign lands.

4. Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and no one group owns it. There is nowhere in the Constitution of Nigeria where Lagos is defined as former capital of Nigeria. Lagos is defined as a State, like Sokoto, Abia, Bayelsa, Kogi. No more no less. It is hearsay to keep throwing that label out while defending yourself as eligible for Constitutional protection in Lagos. The Constitution you hide under has not told you that Lagos was a former capital...but it tells you Lagos is a State. Therefore accept Lagos as defined in Constitution, a State!

Do Ibo have rights in Lagos? Yes, they do. They have rights and obligations. It is their obligation to live in harmony with other people in Lagos so everybody can enjoy a cooperative relationship and profit overall. Of all Nigerians living in Lagos, Ibo stand out as the least willing to promote harmony. At every opportunity Ibo is antagonizing and belligerent. Again to return to constitution, only the indigenes with ancestral roots of any place have "privileged" rights on their land. All others have freedom to live on the land with conditions. Constitution of Nigeria has never given anyone absolute right. The constitution gives relative rights.

In order words, it recognizes that conditions are not uniform as you go from one section of Nigeria to another. Therefore what is obtainable in East is not so in West. There are conditions and aspects of social norms which are standard and a default in West, but is foreign and strange in East. When an Easterner is present in West he is allowed to also live and enjoy in these peculiarities of social life in West RELATIVE TO building a better and more progressive and evolving society.

The constitution is thus paraphrased "We so so so people, IN ORDER TO BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY hereby commit ourselves...blah blah blah.....

If your living in West denies the rights of others for progressive existence, the constitution gives them a supreme right over you, and limits your privilege while you are physically present in West.

The indigenes of Lagos share a civilization that is common and binding with other Yoruba Kingdom-States. This is ancestral. This ancestry is exclusive. Therefore a Yoruba in Lagos, whether indigene of Lagos or indigene of Offa or Jebba or Lokoja by order of divine ancestral lineage are authorized by the constitution to exercise privileged living anywhere in Yorubaland. Similar authority exist for Emirates. The Emirate of Sokoto, Kano, Adamawa, Zaria, and much as this is not palatable...Ilorin included, have ancestry that are not same as Yoruba. They are who they are, and have exercise of privileged authority in their domains as far it stretches. Ibo kings have their own domain of authority and includes privileges that Hausa or Yoruba in Iboland cannot contest by virtue of Constitution.

So why do others understand this relationship and conform to upholding it but Ibo on other hand continues to pride itself as a spoiler of the Nigerian unity and harmony?

Leaders of the Nigerian nation need to truly review the question of "Ibo amongst us" and put it to rest. We need harmony in Nigeria, and Ibo has shown tome and again on numerous instances of nationhood that it is unwilling to coexist in harmony with anyone. Then divest them out of Nigeria so their burden does not stop generality of Nigerians from progressing and profiting from our partnering.


Contribute inputs.


If possible at this very second, I'll partition them off Nigeria, there's no point associating with unruly, lawless, anti-social, abusive, and toxic people who can not coexist peacefully with other people.

They just cannot be loving and peaceful members of any society and such is the case all over the world and wherever they go, this is nothing new.


They hate Nigeria and they don't wish us well so how do you trust and coexist with antagonistic, hostile and toxic people?

Even with the proposed laws and changes, SS and Northerners folks are not bothered because they love and respect their hosts and neighbors and their land, but who is making noise as usual, the same restless, annoying, unruly, toxic and disrespectful people.

We can do without them, they've been nothing but evil and unnecessary distractions since day one even before the creation of Nigeria, they literarily created most of our problems from introducing the first coup and deadly bloodshed, they abolished our favorable regional system of government and transferred power to the center because an ibo man was the head of state, but they did not know that the center is not theirs to keep, they then turn around to cry and moan that the center is not in their favor and they want to restructure and go back to regional administration or break up.


They are a burden on our National cohesiveness, progress and development.

Good riddance, they can leave today, we won't miss them, not me.

8 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by ImperialYoruba: 11:24pm On Jun 08, 2023
plaindealer:



If possible at this very second, I'll partition them off Nigeria, there's no point associating with unruly, lawless, anti-social, abusive, and toxic people who can not coexist peacefully with other people.

They just cannot be loving and peaceful members of any society and such is the case all over the world and wherever they go, this is nothing new.


They hate Nigeria and they don't wish us well so how do you trust and coexist with antagonistic, hostile and toxic people?

Even with the proposed laws and changes, SS and Northerners folks are not bothered because they love and respect their hosts and neighbors and their land, but who is making noise as usual, the same restless, annoying, unruly, toxic and disrespectful people.

We can do without them, they've been nothing but evil and unnecessary distractions since day one even before the creation of Nigeria, they literarily created most of our problems from introducing the first coup and deadly bloodshed, they abolished our favorable regional system of government and transferred power to the center because an ibo man was the head of state, but they did not know that the center is not theirs to keep, they then turn around to cry and moan that the center is not in their favor and they want to restructure and go back to regional administration or break up.


They are a burden on our National cohesiveness, progress and development.

Good riddance, they can leave today, we won't miss them, not me.



There is a big dilemma in Nigeria. The genesis of this dilemma is Ibo. Three prominent Nigerians have expressed their perspective on it.

1. Ahmadu Bello spoke and gave his perspective on the undesirability and risks of opening your land and your home to Ibo.

2. Samuel Akintola spoke about the dilemma of Ibo amongst us, and warned his kinsmen to keep a safe distance from Ibo. No Ibo can be trusted.

3. Adaka Boro spoke out against the undesirability of coexisting side by side with Ibo, and unacceptability of living as a minority under their influence. He launched a movement for independence and segregation from Eastern region.

Short years later, these respected Nigerians each was murdered by Ibo.

Ibo is at the root of Nigerian problem. Until we resolve the question of "Ibo amongst us", our problem will only get worse and Nigeria will continue to stagnate.

Unity is not what we need. Removing Ibo from Nigeria, and soon, is an urgent matter.

3 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by D1official: 11:37pm On Jun 08, 2023
Jogs1900:
What I know is that the lawmakers have the duty to protect their ancestral land which is Lagos.
For instance if you've lived in the north west, female southerners cover their hair.Another thing is that in the north west, you dare not consume alcohol openly irrespective of your tribe or origin.Lastly, in the northwest during Ramadan, nobody dares eat outside and nobody has ever challenged these in the court.
People abide by these unwritten laws because that is what the indigenes want.

For peace to reign in Lagos, the south easterners should respect the Yorubas in Lagos.They are your host.
Is disenfranchisement your definition of disrespect?.

Truth is, IGBOS are pleased with the outcome of the last election, we have always hated green snakes in green grass but thank God for the fire of obedients.

4 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by seeyounow2: 11:41pm On Jun 08, 2023
embarassed embarassed embarassed
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by D1official: 11:45pm On Jun 08, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


There is a big dilemma in Nigeria. The genesis of this dilemma is Ibo. Three prominent Nigerians have expressed their perspective on it.

1. Ahmadu Bello spoke and gave his perspective on the undesirability and risks of opening your land and your home to Ibo.

2. Samuel Akintola spoke about the dilemma of Ibo amongst us, and warned his kinsmen to keep a safe distance from Ibo. No Ibo can be trusted.

3. Adaka Boro spoke out against the undesirability of coexisting side by side with Ibo, and unacceptability of living as a minority under their influence. He launched a movement for independence and segregation from Eastern region.

Short years later, these respected Nigerians each was murdered by Ibo.

Ibo is at the root of Nigerian problem. Until we resolve the question of "Ibo amongst us", our problem will only get worse and Nigeria will continue to stagnate.

Unity is not what we need. Removing Ibo from Nigeria, and soon, is an urgent matter.
Same IGBOS your fathers fought to keep, imagine cancer begging you to leave and you would rather die than see it happen.

I know the person behind this moniker is an AFONJ.. Muslim and we have maintained that you lots would destroy the west.

Skull miner!!

4 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by kettykings: 11:50pm On Jun 08, 2023
Jogs1900:
What I know is that the lawmakers have the duty to protect their ancestral land which is Lagos.
For instance if you've lived in the north west, female southerners cover their hair.Another thing is that in the north west, you dare not consume alcohol openly irrespective of your tribe or origin.Lastly, in the northwest during Ramadan, nobody dares eat outside and nobody has ever challenged these in the court.
People abide by these unwritten laws because that is what the indigenes want.

For peace to reign in Lagos, the south easterners should respect the Yorubas in Lagos.They are your host.
In the north they have sabon Gari where non northerners live,yoruba should emulate northerners and have that. Igbos don't worship with northerners, they don't live in the same place with them, they don't even do business in the same place, niger delta oil company has are not in the northern states
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Cholls(m): 11:52pm On Jun 08, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


There is a big dilemma in Nigeria. The genesis of this dilemma is Ibo. Three prominent Nigerians have expressed their perspective on it.

1. Ahmadu Bello spoke and gave his perspective on the undesirability and risks of opening your land and your home to Ibo.

2. Samuel Akintola spoke about the dilemma of Ibo amongst us, and warned his kinsmen to keep a safe distance from Ibo. No Ibo can be trusted.

3. Adaka Boro spoke out against the undesirability of coexisting side by side with Ibo, and unacceptability of living as a minority under their influence. He launched a movement for independence and segregation from Eastern region.

Short years later, these respected Nigerians each was murdered by Ibo.

Ibo is at the root of Nigerian problem. Until we resolve the question of "Ibo amongst us", our problem will only get worse and Nigeria will continue to stagnate.

Unity is not what we need. Removing Ibo from Nigeria, and soon, is an urgent matter.
my brother you forgot what Adeyinka Grandson also said

2 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Monsignor22: 12:03am On Jun 09, 2023
Yorogba logic 101

Fulani and Hausas can kill and displace us from our ancestral homelands like they did in Ibarapa, Igangan and in several ethnic clashes in the SW including Lagos, they can rape our women and use them as intimacy gadgets to appease their perversions, they can go on record in history by killing our most revered political leaders like MKO Abiola, Kudirat, assasinate several NADECO members etc, but Fulani are good in our book...because they reward us with political favors, since they see us and us only as their most trusted political allies.

But you see Igbos? Rara o! They are our sworn enemies! They come to your region on droves and in no time buy up our landed properties and markets (which we sell to them) they didn't force us at gunpoint to buy up our lands, houses and markets...but those awon Omo Ibos are too arrogant and destructive, I mean they don't kill us...or rape our women, or send our youths running away to Benin Republic after sacking our communuties...but they are just a stumbling block to the progress of we the Omoluabi's.

Even though we were the people who started political violence and instability in Nigeria during the Akintola and Awolowo political tussle, even though we were the region that went about dousing people with acid and other dangerous substances during the infamous "operation we tie" crisis in the Western region- a situation that threatened the very serenity and peace of the First republic, we will still blame the Igbos for the problems we face today...after all they planned and executed a coup and NO SINGLE YORUBA OFFICER or officers from other regions were participants in that coup, infact Major Wale Ademoyega- a yoruba man, was only lying in his book "Why we struck" by exonerating the reason for the coup as a tribal one.

Indeed "awon Omo Ibo" are the problem of the yorubaa race, they are the reason why more than half of our teeming youth population have resorted to thuggery, drug abuse, ritual killings, omo onile enterprise, and yahoo yahoo to survive.

12 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Jokerman(m): 12:18am On Jun 09, 2023
Who cares??

All I care about is how Niger Delta can work to control their resources, and make sure Oil companies base their headquarters at Asaba, Uyo, Calabar, Rivers, Umuahia, Yenegoa etc, with quality assurance of safety and dialogue with land owners and youths on how to move these states and their capitaks forward.
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Scholes007(m): 12:49am On Jun 09, 2023
ImperialYoruba:
1. Igbos are Nigerians so they have the right that every Nigerian have.

2. Lagos was former capital of Nigeria and every Nigerian have equal right in it.

3. What are the things in Lagos that you want only Yorubas to enjoy that other tribes shouldn't enjoy?

4. I just want to know these things that an average Yoruba man should enjoy in Lagos that shouldn't be available for other tribes


These questions about status of Lagos, and many similar to it, are very good questions to ask and discuss considering where we are politically, culturally, socially and economically.

I am going to provide my own clarity and help initiate what I hope will be a rich interaction to further educate and put everybody in their place and calm frustrations and anxiety. The answers are outlined structurally to aid understanding, and not aligned with the order the questions above are itemized.

1. Nigeria as a country is diverse in all its aspects of customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and organization. These elements of society are the defines around which communities are properly identified. What makes me a Yoruba person is also the quality that denies me identity as an Ibo or Hausa person. My identity is defined to a root and that root is built on customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and so on. This is our diversity, it should be cherished. Those who refuse to cherish their root identity are quick to embrace the identity offered them by the Constitution of Nigeria. So what identity has the Constitution offered to anyone?

2. The Nigerian Constitution has never denied its subordinate status to the customary order that pre-existed formation of Nigeria. It speaks of unity because it acknowledges a diversity which exist naturally and possess a tendency to do so independently if left without a legal framework for harmonization.

In other words, Nigerian Constitution is a framework for bringing people together who naturally do not belong together and will not stay peacefully together but have potentials which if tied in a partnership of harmony could lead to evolution of a better society overall.

Let me repeat this one more time. Nigerian Constitution is not a divine order. It is a document intended to hold together a partnership for progressive and better society that profits all groups.

Nigerian Constitution therefore creates avenues for Yoruba living in Iboland or Hausaland to harmonise with the customs and traditions of that foreign land so he can profit from them, and he does not conduct himself in ways which bring disharmony to the Ibos or Hausas on their indigeneous land. If this is achieved the harmonious state results in better society. This is similar for Hausaman living in Ibo or Yorubaland. It is also compelling on Iboman living in Hausaland or Yorubaland to do so in harmony with the land.

When this harmony is broken or thrown off balance then the Constitution is breached and a means of intervention must be applied to restore harmony using the privileged divine order. When the disharmony is multiplied in the frequency at which it occurs, or the sources from which it is acted, then a general state of diminished returns in profitability, resourcefulness and animosity will develop that pushes more and more into the risk areas that the Constitution was formulated to prevent, i.e. a tendency for the diverse peoples to exist independently and uncooperative...or at extreme points to attack one another.

We are currently in that risk zone. The predominance of our interaction across our diverse identities and at every strata of society, up from traditional rulers, political leaders, corporate leaders, down to the street beggar, has been that of antagonism and in each other's throat. The steam is bottled in and under intense pressure, one way or the other it must explode. To prevent an explosion an intervention is needed to vent the steam under a supervised arrangement.

What is the root cause of the disharmony?

3. History of ancestry and privileged civilization. Part of the diversity in Nigeria takes root in historical civilization and urban evolution. The ethnic groups of Nigeria do not have relatable history, we developed each in different dimensions and pace. At the top of the food chain of civilization is Yoruba. From here it rolls down with different groups gaining civilization and urbanism centuries later.

If we are looking to pick five top early civilized groups, and those who in turn civilized others it will be Yoruba, Benin, Kanuri, Hausa, Nupe in that order. These were pre colonial and pre Nigeria civilizations.

There is a secondary and modern civilization that occurred in time of colonial intervention. This is with Western ideology substituting itself in place of ancestral civilization and philosophies. In this secondary wave is where we find Ibo and a host of other minority groups.

The majority groups in Nigeria ought to have aligned with historical majority but Britain used vendetta against Benin to elevate Ibo above Benin kingdom, thus Ibo was accorded majority political status alongside Yoruba in West and Hausa in North. To update Ibo and give it equal footing for administrative authority under indirect rule, the colonists appointed administrators to be king over their territories. A people of deficient civilization have now been upgraded and treated as equal with societies that have maintained centuries of civilized evolution, many elements of which even surpass that credited to Roman Empire. Ibo was still a slave class when the powers of Benin Kingdom was at its peak. But now the Kingdom is made subservient to the slave. Britain stole not only the treasures of Benin, they also looted its history and status.

The modernity of Ibo upgrade is the root cause of disharmony in Nigeria today.

The power to manage their own development is poor, and so they are found wanting and devoid of skills and prowess to exercise the responsibilities of a majority and politically relevant society across the Nigerian terrain. Consequently, their inability to exercise leadership has resulted in clashes and despise across all regions and brought disharmony and flagrant violations of the code of civilized living. To mask their extreme deficiency they hide under the provisions of Constitution and pretend to be civilized and deserving of civilized treatment on foreign lands.

4. Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and no one group owns it. There is nowhere in the Constitution of Nigeria where Lagos is defined as former capital of Nigeria. Lagos is defined as a State, like Sokoto, Abia, Bayelsa, Kogi. No more no less. It is hearsay to keep throwing that label out while defending yourself as eligible for Constitutional protection in Lagos. The Constitution you hide under has not told you that Lagos was a former capital...but it tells you Lagos is a State. Therefore accept Lagos as defined in Constitution, a State!

Do Ibo have rights in Lagos? Yes, they do. They have rights and obligations. It is their obligation to live in harmony with other people in Lagos so everybody can enjoy a cooperative relationship and profit overall. Of all Nigerians living in Lagos, Ibo stand out as the least willing to promote harmony. At every opportunity Ibo is antagonizing and belligerent. Again to return to constitution, only the indigenes with ancestral roots of any place have "privileged" rights on their land. All others have freedom to live on the land with conditions. Constitution of Nigeria has never given anyone absolute right. The constitution gives relative rights.

In order words, it recognizes that conditions are not uniform as you go from one section of Nigeria to another. Therefore what is obtainable in East is not so in West. There are conditions and aspects of social norms which are standard and a default in West, but is foreign and strange in East. When an Easterner is present in West he is allowed to also live and enjoy in these peculiarities of social life in West RELATIVE TO building a better and more progressive and evolving society.

The constitution is thus paraphrased "We so so so people, IN ORDER TO BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY hereby commit ourselves...blah blah blah.....

If your living in West denies the rights of others for progressive existence, the constitution gives them a supreme right over you, and limits your privilege while you are physically present in West.

The indigenes of Lagos share a civilization that is common and binding with other Yoruba Kingdom-States. This is ancestral. This ancestry is exclusive. Therefore a Yoruba in Lagos, whether indigene of Lagos or indigene of Offa or Jebba or Lokoja by order of divine ancestral lineage are authorized by the constitution to exercise privileged living anywhere in Yorubaland. Similar authority exist for Emirates. The Emirate of Sokoto, Kano, Adamawa, Zaria, and much as this is not palatable...Ilorin included, have ancestry that are not same as Yoruba. They are who they are, and have exercise of privileged authority in their domains as far it stretches. Ibo kings have their own domain of authority and includes privileges that Hausa or Yoruba in Iboland cannot contest by virtue of Constitution.

So why do others understand this relationship and conform to upholding it but Ibo on other hand continues to pride itself as a spoiler of the Nigerian unity and harmony?

Leaders of the Nigerian nation need to truly review the question of "Ibo amongst us" and put it to rest. We need harmony in Nigeria, and Ibo has shown tome and again on numerous instances of nationhood that it is unwilling to coexist in harmony with anyone. Then divest them out of Nigeria so their burden does not stop generality of Nigerians from progressing and profiting from our partnering.

Contribute inputs.
It's a shame someone as verbose as you could stoop this low. You talk a lot with little substance.
1. How many constitutions do Nigeria have?
2. Which city was the former capital of Nigeria?
Then by your augment
●Lagos is State hence should make laws to protect its citizens even when it breaches Nigeria Constitution?
● At same time according to you constitution is the binding and harmonious force holding the entity Nigeria.
Pls tell me how do you reconcile this??

3 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Scholes007(m): 1:00am On Jun 09, 2023
You are beyond doubt an ethnic bigot. What you are sewing today might germinate to destroy you or your generation (no offense intended) . If this is you judgement about civilisation then I can unequivocally say you are beneath every civilisation of note

1 Like

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by tiger28: 2:25am On Jun 09, 2023
na ONLY ibos dey lagos?


Una dey craze!

1 Like

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by ablejesus26(m): 3:32am On Jun 09, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


Who does Ibo vote help?

Where did You see Igbo in His comment grin
This is how You will be in Your dying bed shouting Igbo aaaaggghh grin It is Your destiny to do Igbo aaggghhh the day You stop it You will surely die grin

BTW if You are not an indigine of Lagos, shut up, You dey make noise.

2 Likes

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by ablejesus26(m): 3:34am On Jun 09, 2023
tiger28:
na ONLY ibos dey lagos?


Una dey craze!


E pain the zombies bcus Igbos wey dey Lagos join sensible Nigerians from other Tribes beat their evil fifth columnist apc party hands down for Lagos.

Them no go ever recover from the shame.
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Chibuzoc(m): 5:17am On Jun 09, 2023
Finally Nigeria is crumbling. One Nigeria to the dogs.

When we in the east finally makes a law that we are Biafrans hope you guys won't come with war🀣🀣🀣

1 Like

Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by Mindlog: 5:33am On Jun 09, 2023
See dissertation upon Igbo matter πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†
Re: Clarity On The Rights Of Non-Yoruba In Lagos by gabbytabby: 5:34am On Jun 09, 2023
If them give us a copy of the rights of non igbos in Igbo land we will look into our reciprocity arrangements shikena.

Sablexxxtoons:
Lol see thesis

(1) (2) (Reply)

Tinubu Running Government Of Settling Scores / Senator Abdul Ningi Shivers / Ojukwu Might Have Been The Richest Man In Nigeria If Not For The War

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 173
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.