So what if there's a God and He is sending people to hell or lake of fire for all the evil they refused to stop doing, what would you do?

How would you save yourself from a being that created the whole universe as he attempts to let your soul get destroyed. (Not like he has to do anything if it's already 'programmed' that evil will be destroyed)


What do you gain if you gain the whole world, die and some dude comes back to life and enjoys 'all you have worked for' (Illustration)

What do you gain when you die? The whole world you accumulated or what? Did men who were buried with their wealth go with it?

So if you do have a soul, what happens to it, what happens if there is life after death, will you come back and change your ways?

Abeg make it make sense

You say those who do good because they wish to flee from a possible coming wrath of a "so-called imaginary God are foolish".

You call those who choose to take precautions against a possible destruction foolish

Then are you wise, because you wish to live your life carefree. Are you wise because you do evil and don't repent of it, after all there is no God to do anything to you.

What if there is a God, what if there is a coming destruction, Mr and Mrs wise aethists and antichrist what will you do?

You who's knowledge is limited who does not know tomorrow neglects a warning that doesn't even harm you, is that wisdom.

If you feel you are wise to not be afraid of God, after all these people say the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. What then are your precautions when this maybe wicked entity comes to take your life.


Please make it make sense.
Millions, Billions throughout history have examined the idea called God, where did it come from. But what if there really is a God, how do you save yourself? With missions and bombs, and nuclear weapons, a being said to have created the whole universe ?

It's only the truth that can reach the heart of all humans fairy tales of dead people suffering somewhere makes no sense logically and scripturally.

So let's find out the truth first before expecting people around us to take faith seriously!

gohf:

How would you save yourself from a being that created the whole universe as he attempts to let your soul get destroyed. (Not like he has to do anything if it's already 'programmed' that evil will be destroyed)

He created the whole universe from what?

Maynmann:

He created the whole universe from what?

from himself

MaxInDHouse:
It's only the truth that can reach the heart of all humans fairy tales of dead people suffering somewhere makes no sense logically and scripturally.

So let's find out the truth first before expecting people around us to take faith seriously!

Oya how u want take find the truth?

gohf:
from himself

So the universe is god itself?
Or how did your god separate himself from himself?

gohf:

Oya how u want take find the truth?

First of all TRUTH connotes what everyone can testify to without dispute so you must provide indisputable proof of what you call TRUTH and allow doubters to languish in torment trying to disprove what is undeniable.

The Bible and all it's messages are written by people we don't know and things found in the book aren't happening for real today so if that book is true you can't expect those reading it to trust what they read simply because it was written and compiled, remember that humans have written and compiled books in volumes so they can't easily believe that another book should determine how they will live their life!


So why believe the Bible?

Well Bible provides satisfying answers to many questions that has to do with life.
It provides wise counsel on day to day life how we can live and enjoy whatever we do whether we have little or much.
It gives sure hope about the future of mankind and tells us how we can find peace lovers with whom we will live forever under God's kingdom.

Anybody can raise objections on the first two but the third what we all need to consider and think deeply about.

Who are the peace lovers around us with whom we can share the Good News of a happy future?

Lots of people around you are atheists in the making because they want to solve all their problems now so the hope of a brighter future under God's kingdom means nothing to them yet many of them attend religious sessions but they are not believers.
That's why many of them are furiously questioning what they were told in the past now that they have doubters everywhere backing them up to ask thought provoking questions that none of their religious leaders have answers to!

Maynmann:

So the universe is god itself?
Or how did your god separate himself from himself?

if you couldn't understand my previous answer how do u think u would understand my answers to this questions?

gohf:
if you couldn't understand my previous answer how do u think u would understand my answers to this questions?

It is you that dont understand yourself.

If everything is created from your god, is your god not everything?
Your god is the creator and also the creation.

MaxInDHouse:

First of all TRUTH connotes what everyone can testify to without dispute so you must provide indisputable proof of what you call TRUTH and allow doubters to languish in torment trying to disprove what is undeniable.

one truth, all men die. Do you know how I reacted when someone said, "I didn't believe it until I actually saw someone dead, I was shocked to my bone" please does it make any sense that in a world where people die daily, some get shocked that someone dies. Even with that truth some still live in denial, and you think there ever will be something everyone agrees to.

Something can be true even if everyone denies it, it doesn't change that it is true. So your basis of validating the truth is off, what you will call that is popular or public opinion, what the general public accept is "true" even though it's a lie.

The Bible and all it's messages are written by people we don't know and things found in the book aren't happening for real today so if that book is true you can't expect those reading it to trust what they read simply because it was written and compiled, remember that humans have written and compiled books in volumes so they can't easily believe that another book should determine how they will live their life!


So why believe the Bible?

true, written by some people, so why believe the Bible? It's a choice, either a person believes or they don't

Well Bible provides satisfying answers to many questions that has to do with life.
It provides wise counsel on day to day life how we can live and enjoy whatever we do whether we have little or much.
It gives sure hope about the future of mankind and tells us how we can find peace lovers with whom we will live forever under God's kingdom.

Anybody can raise objections on the first two but the third what we all need to consider and think deeply about.

Who are the peace lovers around us with whom we can share the Good News of a happy future?

Lots of people around you are atheists in the making because they want to solve all their problems now so the hope of a brighter future under God's kingdom means nothing to them yet many of them attend religious sessions but they are not believers.
That's why many of them are furiously questioning what they were told in the past now that they have doubters everywhere backing them up to ask thought provoking questions that none of their religious leaders have answers to!

what makes a person not to believe, it is actually a desire

A person can believe there is God because they desire such
A person can disbelieve because they don't desire such, they question how does his existence help me or serve my purposes

Believe will always be a choice. Those who desire a God will go to where God is, those who don't will go to where He isn't. One can't desire both at the same time

Like you wrote because they want things now, they question if they should believe for some kingdom like future.


The truth stands the test of time not the acceptance of people, it will prove true in the end.

Maynmann:

It is you that dont understand yourself.

If everything is created from your god, is your god not everything?
Your god is the creator and also the creation.

you asked where did creation come from, it came from God

Is everything that comes out from you, you? Is your sweat, saliva and shit you?

Maynmann:

He created the whole universe from what?

no be u ask this one

gohf:
you asked where did creation come from, it came from God

Is everything that comes out from you, you? Is your sweat, saliva and shit you?

Of course it is, everything that emerges from a person, such as sweat, saliva, or excrement, is indeed a part of that person in a physical sense. However, these bodily substances are not considered to be the entirety of the person's identity or essence.
Are they not coming out from you, you?

gohf:
no be u ask this one

He created it from “himself” as you said.
So what did he create? Is that not “himself”?

Maynmann:

He created it from “himself” as you said.
So what did he create? Is that not “himself”?

if you believe that what he created from himself is himself, do you even believe that you, better still, the first man is from God?

gohf:
if you believe that what he created from himself is himself, do you even believe that you, better still, the first man is from God?

If you believe your god created everything from himself, then this first man is he not created from god himself? And this first man is God himself!
How did your god separate this first man from himself?
The creator and the creation are the same thing.

Maynmann:

If you believe your god created everything from himself, then this first man is he not created from god himself? And this first man is God?
How did your god separate this first man from himself?

Isn't that the idea of making one like another to dwell and act in one's stead

Besides
Why do you ask, do you want to separate yourself from yourself?

gohf:
Isn't that the idea of making one like another to dwell and act in one's stead

Besides
Why do you ask, do you want to separate yourself from yourself?

There is no another, does your god have another himself?

It’s you that said your god created everything from himself, so how did your god seperate himself from himself to create the first man?

Dem don use monotheism brainwash you.

Maynmann:

There is no another, does your god have another himself?

It’s you that said your god created everything from himself, so how did your god seperate himself from himself to create the first man?

Dem don use monotheism brainwash you.

if you believe I am brainwashed why bother asking me?
If you won't let me answer, what's the point of asking?

I asked you questions you did not answer

You leave my answers and lie against what I have said, you have chosen already to believe a lie, even if it means lying about what I have clearly written so that you can accept it as my response.


I asked you why do you want to know how he created the universe from himself, and a simple question like that you have no answer. Does that mean your questions are baseless or have hidden motives.

Besides are you not fo..olish to think that if a man knew how God created the universe wouldn't he use that knowledge in some way or even attempt to create another universe. So dumb, even men won't tell how they make some things to outsiders how much more you think God will come and tell a wicked soul how he created the universe 🤣🤣🤣

Please make it make sense

gohf:
Besides are you not fo..olish to think that if a man knew how God created the universe wouldn't he use that knowledge in some way or even attempt to create another universe. So dumb, even men won't tell how they make some things to outsiders how much more you think God will come and tell a wicked soul how he created the universe 🤣🤣🤣

Please make it make sense

Are these the same foolish men that knew that this god was god of isrealite and gave birth to a child, they knew all these things?

Men are greedy, is your god also greedy?
I wonder who created the wicked soul, an omniscience god been this insecure just like human beings 😂😂

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You leave my answers and lie against what I have said, you have chosen already to believe a lie, even if it means lying about what I have clearly written so that you can accept it as my response.

You are the liar like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

Maynmann:

You are the liar like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

gohf:
I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

You are the liar like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

Maynmann:

Are these the same foolish men that knew that this god was god of isrealite and gave birth to a child, they knew all these things?

Men are greedy, is your god also greedy?
I wonder who created the wicked soul, an omniscience god been this insecure just like human beings 😂😂

you created the wicked soul 😁 have you not corrupted your own heart and made it the way you like to believe what you like 😂😂 or is there a god that did that, a god of this world 🤔, 😹😹😹

Greedy men have a greedy god na,

Maynmann:

You are the liar like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

gohf:
I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

You are the liar and empty like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

Maynmann:

You are the liar and empty like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

gohf:
I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

You are the liar and empty like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

Maynmann:

You are the liar and empty like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

gohf:
I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

You are the liar and empty like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

Madmann:

Of course it is, everything that emerges from a person, such as sweat, saliva, or excrement, is indeed a part of that person in a physical sense. However, these bodily substances are not considered to be the entirety of the person's identity or essence.
Are they not coming out from you, you?

how can one person say he is not the shit that comes out from him but creation that comes out from God is god?
A. Is it madness
B. Self deception
C. See eh I am an agent of darkness sent to destroy as many as possible