Christistruth03:


Alimi's descendants have long being removed

Emir Gambari is a Hausa man!

Gambari means Hausa in Yoruba and Ilorins know how the the Hausas took over

,Alimi was Fulani

The Screenshot was a British Officer admitting that the Balogun Alabama was the Ruler of Ilorin


Emir Momoh had already been defeated by the Yoruba Chiefs lead by Balogun Alanamu and he had killed himself by Burning down his Palace over himself

It was Balogun Alanamu the British fought and took Ilorin from he was banished to Jebba by them

At the very least, bring a screenshot that supports what you're saying na. This screenshot you keep bringing is not saying anything about a Hausa take-over. That Balogun Alanamu was the defacto leader doesn't mean the emirship had left the House of Alimi. All that your screenshot is saying is that the Emir was a puppet ruler, but Emir he still was! At the risk of repeating myself, this wasn't the first time in history that one man held the title in name and someone else ran the show.

The Balogun Alanamu was of Yoruba heritage, anyways, so I fail to see how emphasising on the fact that he was defacto ruler at the time of the British incursions helps your argument of an Hausa take-over.

All academic sources are unanimous that Sulu-Gambari is descended from Abdusalami, son of Alimi.

Anyone trying to inform Redbonesmith with evidence is wasting his time. The guy does not even believe his own evidence:

]To the OP, where's the evidence that Harry Belafonte wanted to run for senate? I'm looking at a newspaper from 1986 where he explicitly said he wasn't going to run!

He has been in America for a long time. Yet, he doesn't understand that when someone calls a Press Conference to announce he is not running, it means he has dropped his exploratory possiblity as a candidate.

I just ignored him until now, asking for evidence that he does not understand again.

Christistruth03:


Alimi's descendants have long being removed

Emir Gambari is a Hausa man!

Gambari means Hausa in Yoruba and Ilorins know how the the Hausas took over

,Alimi was Fulani

The Screenshot was a British Officer admitting that the Balogun Alabama was the Ruler of Ilorin


Emir Momoh had already been defeated by the Yoruba Chiefs lead by Balogun Alanamu and he had killed himself by Burning down his Palace over himself

It was Balogun Alanamu the British fought and took Ilorin from he was banished to Jebba by them

Exactly. The Fulani aren't even indigenous to Nigeria to begin with. They're from other African countries who were accommodated in Nigeria country. However if they want to start threatening and killing others on other people's soil, they had better watch it because we won't tolerate shit. No one asked them to lose their African culture for toxic foreign terrorism shit culture, let alone disturbing and killing others with their toxicity while looking for land to grab for themselves in other countries who accommodated them. imagine the nerves!

That being said, it's in Ilorin's hands to relieve themselves from the slavery of dumb foreign culture they accepted. Dumb toxic foreign culture that brings nothing innovative except terrorism, dumbness, and black magic. Heck, Alimi was invited by Ilorin king because of Alimi's black magic. He was invited because the Ilorin king who was under Oyo empire king but was scared of Oyo king reprimanding/admonishing him for something he had done thus Alimi with the black magic was invited. The Ilorin king eventually distanced himself from Oyo empire who could have helped him in the end because same Alimi betrayed and killed the Ilorin king in the end. How I dislike betrayers! Imagine killing people who accommodated you in their lands? The nerves! Anyway, while dying, Ilorin king cursed the people of Ilorin for joining hands with Alimi to kill him, just because of dumb toxic foreign terrorist shit culture they accepted. Today, Ilorin is filled with black magic and rituals by Alfas while one foreign emir is ruling them and threatening them and their culture. The nerves! It's Ilorin people who can relieve themselves from the whole madness and break that curse, it's no Yoruba problem.

While I understand that Balogun alanamu of Ilorin already disposed the Emir, even as the British stated in their archive because they met Balogun alanamu as the ruler of Ilorin, not Emir but since Balogun wouldn't submit to the British and kept fighting against the British invasion in Ilorin, they had to send him on exile to jebba while they put another man as the Emir in Ilorin because he was submissive to them however it's Ilorin people who dey carry dumb toxic foreign terrorist culture on top head like gele na. Dumb toxic foreign culture that brings nothing innovative except terrorism, dumbness and black magic. They had better get their shit together!

Yoruba won't lose their beautiful lovely culture filled with lots of beautiful things such as dresses/attires, proverbs, metaphor, greetings, literature and poetry etc. Yoruba won't lose their rich suave heritage for dumb toxic foreign terrorist shit culture. We're Africans!

laiperi:
Anyone trying to inform Redbonesmith with evidence is wasting his time. The guy does not even believe his own evidence:



He has been in America for a long time. Yet, he doesn't understand that when someone calls a Press Conference to announce he is not running, it means he has dropped his exploratory possiblity as a candidate.

I just ignored him until now, asking for evidence that he does not understand again.

Lmao. Apparently, you're still smarting from that little debate where you couldn't substantiate what you were saying, even after being invited to do so.

I always bow to superior argument. I am not given to arguing blindly.

I actually went back after this Sulu-Gambari debate to look at the sources, and the sources are unanimous that Sulu Gambari is descended from Alimi through Abdusalami. I have seen the charts of the family tree to back it up and everything. If you're being honest with yourself, you'll also admit that the screenshot your counterpart shared said nothing about the Ilorin emirship passing to a Hausa lineage. The fact that a Balogun (who was even of a Yoruba, rather than a Hausa pedigree) was the de facto ruler at a point doesn't mean the House of Alimi lost the emirship. All it means is that the emirship at that time was a nominal position with no real power. Kind of like the kingship of France under Cardinal Richelieu.

Bukola94:
Please correct this, he is not Hausa, he is a descendant of Zulu Qarnain

The Emir of Ilorin is a descendant of the Balogun Gambari of Ilorin, he was Hausa

Gambari means Hausa in Yoruba

Christistruth03:



The Emir of Ilorin is a descendant of the Balogun Gambari of Ilorin, he was Hausa

Gambari means Hausa in Yoruba

go and do proper research, he is a descent of Zulu Qarnain,not Gambari of Ilorin. Gambari has never been an Oba or Emir in the history of Ilorin, yes there is chief Ajikobi&chief Gambari,which is just a mere title , dont let the word Gambari confuse or dont let them use it to lie to u. Go figure out facts ,people that are close to 90yrs or plus should help, don't base it on Google or men or women in their 60s or plus,they may not know accurate raw facts. Peace upon U

Bukola94:
go and do proper research, he is a descent of Zulu Qarnain,not Gambari of Ilorin. Gambari has never been an Oba or Emir in the history of Ilorin, yes there is chief Ajikobi&chief Gambari,which is just a mere title , dont let the word Gambari confuse or dont let them use it to lie to u. Go figure out facts ,people that are close to 90yrs or plus should help, don't base it on Google or men or women in their 60s or plus,they may not know accurate raw facts. Peace upon U

He (or she) will not listen to you. They see the name 'Gambari' and fly to the conclusion that he must be of Hausa descent. No other evidence whatsoever. Names are not always a pointer to origins. Other circumstances may contribute to the names someone ends up bearing. There are Nigerians whose names are Oyibo, but are not of European descent.

RedboneSmith:

He (or she) will not listen to you. They see the name 'Gambari' and fly to the conclusion that he must be of Hausa descent. No other evidence whatsoever. Names are not always a pointer to origins. Other circumstances may contribute to the names someone ends up bearing. There are Nigerians whose names are Oyibo, but are not of European descent.

thanks for your contribution and wisdom. Names are not always a pointer 2 origins. Imagine I been indigene and outsider,thinking she/he knows our history that us? Anyone can be Bello,Gambari,Saraki etc. I.e I can name my son Ahmadu Bello, because of good history I heard about him,Tafawa Balewa for good history I learnt about him, Alvan Ikoku for his popularity, Queen Elizabeth and Latifa etc. Euro names like Henry,George, Washington, Christopher & Jackson