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Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by 2buffagain(m): 3:07pm On Jul 12, 2023
I would really like to see Nigerian manufacturing and QA culture improve.
This mindset of "import is best" is killing us and making our economy down-right unrealistic.
We cannot continue to buy from outside when we sell very little. And then the small thing we sell, it is the buyer that is then dictating the price of it again.

What are your thoughts of what is holding us back on this matter?
Let's discuss
Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by 2buffagain(m): 3:08pm On Jul 12, 2023
@pansophist
Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by budaatum: 3:14pm On Jul 12, 2023
The first thing we must manufacture is electricity.

We just don't have enough light to see to manufacture anything at the moment.

I'm saying this while stuffing my mouth with ipekere "manufactured" in Chile and drinking mango juice from Brazil.
Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by 2buffagain(m): 3:22pm On Jul 12, 2023
budaatum:
The first thing we must manufacture is electricity.

We just don't have enough light to see to manufacture anything at the moment.

I'm saying this while stuffing my mouth with ipekere "manufactured" in Chile and drinking mango juice.

Yes, infrastructure.
Nigeria does have the potential for a truly "Green manufacturing" branding as solar is the only way we would be able to consistently power anything worth the merit, especially since energy from hydro carbons have high maintenance and management expenses.

As a whole, Nigerians should push for more projects like these: https://taiyangnews.info/markets/largest-utility-scale-solar-farm-in-nigeria-online/

$16M => 10MW,
Maybe $160M => 100MW

Granted these MW numbers are small, but it's better than all the "spending" that has happened around electricity in the country with no returns. In the past lootocratic PDP reign, Nigeria wasted $16bn on electricity "projects" we never heard anything about after.

Conservatively, that would have given us 100,000 MW of solar energy (Or 100GW) !
More than 5 times the current generation potential Without any of the "fueling/logistics costs".

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Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by 2buffagain(m): 3:33pm On Jul 12, 2023
2buffagain:


Yes, infrastructure.
Nigeria does have the potential for a truly "Green manufacturing" branding as solar is the only way we would be able to consistently power anything worth the merit, especially since energy from hydro carbons have high maintenance and management expenses.

As a whole, Nigerians should push for more projects like these: https://taiyangnews.info/markets/largest-utility-scale-solar-farm-in-nigeria-online/

$16M => 10MW,
Maybe $160M => 100MW

Granted these MW numbers are small, but it's better than all the "spending" that has happened around electricity in the country with no returns. In the past lootocratic PDP reign, Nigeria wasted $16bn on electricity "projects" we never heard anything about after.

Conservatively, that would have given us 100,000 MW of solar energy!
More than 5 times the current generation potential Without any of the "fueling/logistics costs".

That said, solar micro-grids are the way forward, not even centralized government stuffs.
Nigerian progress has always been about independence from government.

I think the real issues blocking the manufacturing aspect of Nigerians are mostly surrounding culture and education.

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Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by pansophist(m): 3:57am On Jul 14, 2023
It's not up to individual to decide if they want to start manufacturing or not, it's a structural thing that must be engineered from the top.

With no electricity, a largely uneducated, or wrongly educated populace, a depreciating currency that makes importing materials expensive, and the government doing everything to make life difficult,

It's easier to just skip all those process, import the final goods, and sell. Simple.

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Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by emmaodet: 5:51pm On Jul 14, 2023
Industrial machines for real manufacturing and production requires heavy currents.
They need complete full 3 phase electric to work.
I believe solar can only power domestic equipment like tv, fridges, AC, freezer etc and not milling machines, 3 phase electric motors to drive huge machines etc
These are machines for serious manufacturing.
I had to close down my vegetable oil company last year due to electricity issues.
I use heavy stable 3 phase current which the government failed to provide me

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Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by 2buffagain(m): 3:13pm On Aug 10, 2023
emmaodet:
Industrial machines for real manufacturing and production requires heavy currents.
They need complete full 3 phase electric to work.
I believe solar can only power domestic equipment like tv, fridges, AC, freezer etc and not milling machines, 3 phase electric motors to drive huge machines etc
These are machines for serious manufacturing.
I had to close down my vegetable oil company last year due to electricity issues.
I use heavy stable 3 phase current which the government failed to provide me

Nah. You can run 3-phase electric on solar.
You just need an inverter, like you would with any other source of electricity.
Electricity is electricity. It does not matter how you generate it. There is no difference between "hydrocarbon based" or "dam based" or "solar based" electricity.
Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by emmaodet: 4:31pm On Aug 10, 2023
2buffagain:


Nah. You can run 3-phase electric on solar.
You just need an inverter, like you would with any other source of electricity.
Electricity is electricity. It does not matter how you generate it. There is no difference between "hydrocarbon based" or "dam based" or "solar based" electricity.

Hmmmmmm I doubt that.
I have worked on diesel engine only ships likewise diesel/electric ships and the power generated differs very much.
I still believe solar can't run and power 3 phase industrial machines. Maybe mini low consuming ones but not heavy duty milling machines.
Believe me.
Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by 2buffagain(m): 7:01pm On Aug 10, 2023
emmaodet:


Hmmmmmm I doubt that.
I have worked on diesel engine only ships likewise diesel/electric ships and the power generated differs very much.
I still believe solar can't run and power 3 phase industrial machines. Maybe mini low consuming ones but not heavy duty milling machines.
Believe me.

lol bro, electricity is electricity. A combination of inverters, capacitors and batteries can help you buffer and "compress" it into the high voltage state you need, which you would have to do anyway depending on need.

What you are echoing is an old school belief put out by folks in oil and gas who fear the impending but necessary decline of their industry. It's not backed by current science.

Read up on the subject.
There is a reason many countries (including China) are aiming for near zero hydrocarbon energy generation in the next decade.

Nigeria is already positioned to take up that mantle, because that is the only way out of the dark ages for it. The hydrocarbon energy ship has sailed and is no longer sustainable. There's just far better tech for that now.

Besides solar, there is also geo-thermal... but that one is getting ahead of ourselves. I also would NOT trust naija with anything nuclear because with our maintenance culture, Chernobyl #2 will be assured. Baby steps
Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by emmaodet: 8:22pm On Aug 10, 2023
2buffagain:


lol bro, electricity is electricity. A combination of inverters, capacitors and batteries can help you buffer and "compress" it into the high voltage state you need, which you would have to do anyway depending on need.

What you are echoing is an old school belief put out by folks in oil and gas who fear the impending but necessary decline of their industry. It's not backed by current science.

Read up on the subject.
There is a reason many countries (including China) are aiming for near zero hydrocarbon energy generation in the next decade.

Nigeria is already positioned to take up that mantle, because that is the only way out of the dark ages for it. The hydrocarbon energy ship has sailed and is no longer sustainable. There's just far better tech for that now.

Besides solar, there is also geo-thermal... but that one is getting ahead of ourselves. I also would NOT trust naija with anything nuclear because with our maintenance culture, Chernobyl #2 will be assured. Baby steps

Okay ooo
God help us all to achieve these feats
Re: Nigerian Manufacturing: What Is The Way Forward? by 0neal(m): 9:36pm On Aug 10, 2023
Solar power can't do jack alone for industrial application, it can only compliment as a short term backup power.

Fossil fuel in its liquid, solid & gas form are still the most reliable source of power to produce electricity, God don bless Nigeria with all three forms in abundance but we still can't get our power sector right...shey na Juju?

Siemens said na till 2025 dem go finish their electrification project make we dey look, and Dangote investing in refinery business looks like a game changer in the coming years

All these going green agenda na western world problem weh don chop belle-full, no be Africa issue.

Even Finland refused to shut down their coal mine previously agreed on in compliance with the EU Green plan, as them see the energy crisis in Europe caused by the blowing up of Nord Stream and Russia turning off their tap gas tap supply to Europe.

Japan also from energy hike caused by Rus-Ukr war and also the Tai-China tension are looking to revamp their Nuclear power plants

Fossil fuel will still be relevant for power generation in the next 200 yrs especially for Africa

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