Adjovi:



Soviet Union defeated the Nazis not Russia you can't change history Mr man. Russia is what we are talking about and not the Soviet Union

That woman obviously doesn't know the difference between Russia and the Soviet union.

joyandfaith:


Soviet union was about Russia., you guys would be proud to say Russia defeated nazi germany in ww2. Soviet union was another form of Russia empire. Nations were coerced into joining the union.

@mysticwarrior

The Soviet union was a confederation and nations joined willingly, it was formed to strengthened military alliances among members. It was created without war and was also disintegrated without war.

Adjovi:



Soviet Union defeated the Nazis not Russia you can't change history Mr man. Russia is what we are talking about and not the Soviet Union

Y
Where was headquarters of ussr? How did Russia become a successor state to ussr in international bodies?.

mysticwarrior:
That woman obviously doesn't know the difference between Russia and the Soviet union.

I just tire for them o. There's no way you white wash the USA as a peace loving country if you wan to be honest with oneself.

mysticwarrior:
The Soviet union was a confederation and nations joined willingly, it was formed to strengthened military alliances among members. It was created without war and was also disintegrated without war.

Not willing. History 101.

joyandfaith:

Y
Where was headquarters of ussr? How did Russia become a successor state to ussr in international bodies?.

And how did Russia become a successor state because they continued in the international political views of the Soviet? It because they have become the strongest of all the Soviet breakaway states?

Adjovi:



Soviet Union defeated the Nazis not Russia you can't change history Mr man. Russia is what we are talking about and not the Soviet Union

Most of the fight of the eastern front took place within what we now call Russian federation. And most of the soviet casualties of WW2 was taken in places which are within what we now call Russian federation.
Also, just for your own information, the USSR is the successor state to the Russian empire which was even larger than the USSR.
So when someone says Russia and doesn't specify if he's talking about the federation or the empire or the USSR, it would be normal for you to ask for some precision rather than assuming the person is confusing the USSR with the Russian federation.

Stoplying:

Most of the fight of the eastern front took place within what we now call Russian federation. And most of the soviet casualties of WW2 was taken in places which are within what we now call Russian federation.
Also, just for your own information, the USSR is the successor state to the Russian empire which was even larger than the USSR.
So when someone says Russia and doesn't specify if he's talking about the federation or the empire or the USSR, it would be normal for you to ask for some precision rather than assuming the person is confusing the USSR with the Russian federation.

Lol you are the one confusing yourself. When did Russia gain independence from the USSR sir?

Adjovi:



Lol they did. It was even under museevvni that Thier alliance with the USA started bro.

Even with overwhelming evidence, you are still agitating your false claims,
Am done with this thread

Adjovi:
This is a compilation of killings be it directly or indirectly in which both Russia and USA have been involved in over the years. After this analysis I'll leave you to your mind and brain to decern for yourself which country is and has been a threat to world peace........


Russia
1991 - 2009 chehnya wars.
Russia invaded chehnya because of terrorist activities by their leader whom the USA was in contact with. The dispute escalated and Russia invaded.

2008 Georgia war.
Their was civil unrest between russian speaking majority areas and the western backed areas which broke out into a civil war, Russia stepped in and intervened on behalf of the Russians and declared independence for those regions Abkhazia and south Ossetia.

2015 Syria.
Syrian President Assad was to be removed through a sponsored military coup, he called on Russia for assistance and Russia came to his rescue.

2014-2023 Ukraine
There has been civil unrest amongst pro Ukrainians and the pro Russians in the donbass region. The UN failed to quell this dispute and it further escalated when a coup happened in Ukraine that led to the removal of their democratically elected president. How be it, the civil unrest in the donbass regions continued unabated. Russia stepped in to rescue Russians in the donbass region and helped them with independence which they have been clamouring for.



USA
1899-1902 Boer war
1899-1902 Philippines - american war
1904-1908 Herero wars
1912-1913 Balkan wars
1915-1920 caco wars 1 and 2
1921-1927 Rif war
1923-1932 Libya war
1927-1949 Chinese civil war
1935-1937 2nd halo-abyssinian war
1936-1939 Spanish civil war
1946-1954 Indochina war
1947-1948 Malagasy 1998 uprising
1948 Arab- Israeli war
1945-1949 Indonesian war of independence
1948-1960 Malayan emergency
1950-1953 Korean war
1952-1960 mau mau uprising
1954-1962 Algerian war
1955-1975 Vietnam war.
1965 Indo Pakistani war
1960 to 1998 the troubles
1971 Bangladesh liberation war
1970-1975 Cambodian civil war
1973 Yom Kippur war
1975-1999 Indonesian invasion and occupation of East Timor
1975-1990 Lebanese civil war
1978-2023 civil war in Afghanistan
1980-1988 Iran - Iraq war
1985-2023 Uganda war
1991-1999 Yugoslav wars
1990-2000 Liberia/ Sierra Leone
1990 invasion of Kuwait
1991-2002 Algerian civil war
1994-2009 Russia- Chechnya wars
1998-2006 2nd Congo war
2003-2011 Iraq invasion
2006 Lebanon war
2003-2010 dafur conflict ( civil war in Chad)
2008-2009 Gaza war
2009 Sri Lankan civil war
2011-2022 Syrian civil war
2014 Ukraine civil unrest
2015 Kurdish - Turkish conflict
2020 Nagorno - kordbakh war
2020-2022 Tigray war

I could not give explanations on that of USA because it's just too much and most of it where for unreasonable reasons....

Now as some would say, that USA did it in the past doesn't mean Russia should do it as well. Good so let's exonerate both of them of the past and focus on the present Russia Ukraine war.

USA and the Cuba missile crisis is the same scenario playing out in Ukraine. The USA didn't want their enemy at their borders not to talk of having a military alliance with their neighbours, so if the USA won't allow it then, why are they doing the same thing they don't want done to them to others?
Let's backtrack to the Biafran war, Biafrans wanted to be independent same way the pro Russians in the donbass region want to be independent. The Nigerian government could have dialogued with them and they both come to an agreeable compromise beneficiary to both, same way the Ukrainian government could have dialogued with the people of the donbass region and they can both come to a peaceful compromising agreement, but no, the Nigerian government and the Ukrainian government made the wrong choice of engagement and quelling the unrest (militarily).
The Nigerian government succeeded in their quest because the Biafrans didn't have someone supporting them like the Russian government, the people of the donbass region on the other hand have the backing of a world power in Russia. How be it, despite the success of the Nigerian government in quelling the civil unrest with the Biafrans, the hate and resentment from the Biafrans still persists and will continue to. The Ukrainian government on the under hand has not been successful with the military option of resolving disputes so far and will not be able to achieve success. The donbass region got their independence already and Russia will do everything to keep it that way just like in Georgia and Chechnya.

If at the end of these analysis and you still feel the USA or NATO is a force for peace then , it's either you have a brain but you're not the one using it.


I'm Omole Adjovi Adebayo a Yoruba born in Lagos a student of political science and international relations, a Christian and I'm 1 million percent obidient ( for those who want to play the tribal and political view and religious card).....

You LIE pass 👿👿👿 demons, even the devil fears you

Hotice085:


You LIE pass 👿👿👿 demons, even the devil fears you

Bring out the lie sir

obedience4:



Even with overwhelming evidence, you are still agitating your false claims,
Am done with this thread

What overwhelming evidence yeah run away you can't see the USA as a peace loving country and not sound or look stupid

Adjovi:




What overwhelming evidence yeah run away you can't see the USA as a peace loving country and not sound or look stupid

What overwhelming evidence??, I gave you the wiki page of the war that brought the said musvesii into power, and it shows clearly that the USA never supported him, it is either you can't read or have comprehension deficiency, it becoming weird, that even after reading you are still agitating your false claims.
The most shocking thing is that since we started this boring conversation you have not shown me one piece of information or something to verified your bogus claims
So who is the stupid one
Anything you just see on the internet you just come and dumb here on narialand without proper check.

PS I expect you to reply me without any proof to back up your claims and then insult me.
Prove me wrong 😎

God1000:

There's a difference bro, Putin thinks Ukraine and some countries don't have the right to exist, Russia invades to seize territories in other countries and conduct illegal referendum.

US doesn't invade to seize any territory.

What US does is even worse..... remove democratically elected governments..... Thousands of miles away.
Of course Colonialism is over so US can't seize any territories and those places Russia seizes belonged to Russia or have Russian speaking populations....they were part of Motherland being reunited.....they were territories lost when USSR was balkanized and weak....now that it has gained some strength it's fighting back.

Putin doesn't think any country doesn't have a right to exist.... Rather it is a known fact that the US doesn't think any communist country deserve to exist hence their hated for China Russia north Korea Cuba and Venezuela.
They also don't believe any Islamic religious state don't have a right to exist eg. Iran and Afghanistan whereas they protect christian religious states of israel and Rome. Hypocrites

Western nations cannot grandstand anyhow in south Africa....why?.... because of the ignoble role they played during Apartheid.....South Africa is aligning with China and Russia....even held military drill with China weeks back and the whole western media were mum.

Badassniggga:


What is US Army doing in Syria in 2023?? Who invited US to that country? I know Russian forces are in Syria as well invited by the Syrian Government. But who invited US to Syria?

What is Russia's troops doing in Ukraine, who invited them there??

Tiopii:


What is Russia's troops doing in Ukraine, who invited them there??

I asked you first bruh. Answer me. Since US is the number one at preaching freedom and respecting sovereignty of others. Who invited US to the sovereign country of Syria?

What a fvcking hypocrite.

obedience4:



What overwhelming evidence??, I gave you the wiki page of the war that brought the said musvesii into power, and it shows clearly that the USA never supported him, it is either you can't read or have comprehension deficiency, it becoming weird, that even after reading you are still agitating your false claims.
The most shocking thing is that since we started this boring conversation you have not shown me one piece of information or something to verified your bogus claims
So who is the stupid one
Anything you just see on the internet you just come and dumb here on narialand without proper check.

PS I expect you to reply me without any proof to back up your claims and then insult me.
Prove me wrong 😎

Go and see the same Wikipedia concerning the war in in Uganda and see their involvement

Adjovi:



Go and see the same Wikipedia concerning the war in in Uganda and see their involvement

Something I have read Extensively
You are one dull boy

Badassniggga:
I asked you first bruh. Answer me. Since US is the number one at preaching freedom and respecting sovereignty of others. Who invited US to the sovereign country of Syria?

What a fvcking hypocrite.

The question should be; what moral justification do they have to criticize Russia for violation of Ukrainian sovereignty, while they're in Syria uninvited stealing oil.

Sickening hypocrisy I must say.

obedience4:


Something I have read Extensively
You are one dull boy

There you go

Adjovi:




There you go

I thought you said the USA put muss in power, and supported him during the war??
The USA fought a war with viteham now there is an embassy of the usa in Vietnam capital Hanoi,
The viteham has a consulate in DC, dose that change the record That the USA at a time werent at goof relationship with viteham.
The agurunment is not the later relationships between the USA and Uganda post the civil war, you wrote a list of wars the USA are involved in, and that the USA is a propagator of wars and I ciated the Uganda cvil war that the USA never supported the war and was never involved in it. They only backed the Democratic elected president the USA never said weapons. Dude the article is there can't you read??
North Korea was even the major arms aids giver to the sitting president during the Uganda cvil war.
Just to read and comprehend is a problem for you.. ?


So if trump should win an the USA election and stop the aid to Ukraine and Russia and the USA now become close ally, will the records not still showed that the USA at a time under Biden supported Ukraine against Russia.

So your point is that because the USA and Uganda later have a good relationship after the Uganda cvil war means the USA supported museevvni. 😁😁😀😂

And you said you a political student, you should be ashamed of yourself. 100lv ISD uniben students won't write the rubbish you wrote here

You must be a LASU student 😂😂😁😀

obedience4:



I thought you said the USA put muss in power, and supported him during the war??
The USA fought a war with viteham now there is an embassy of the usa in Vietnam capital Hanoi,
The viteham has a consulate in DC, dose that change the record That the USA at a time werent at goof relationship with viteham.
The agurunment is not the later relationships between the USA and Uganda post the civil war, you wrote a list of wars the USA are involved in, and that the USA is a propagator of wars and I ciated the Uganda cvil war that the USA never supported the war and was never involved in it. They only backed the Democratic elected president the USA never said weapons. Dude the article is there can't you read??
North Korea was even the major arms aids giver to the sitting president during the Uganda cvil war.
Just to read and comprehend is a problem for you.. ?


So if trump should win an the USA election and stop the aid to Ukraine and Russia and the USA now become close ally, will the records not still showed that the USA at a time under Biden supported Ukraine against Russia.

So your point is that because the USA and Uganda later have a good relationship after the Uganda cvil war means the USA supported museevvni. 😁😁😀😂

And you said you a political student, you should be ashamed of yourself. 100lv ISD uniben students won't write the rubbish you wrote here

You must be a LASU student 😂😂😁😀

And I told you earlier before this that any form of assistance or aid is support didn't I? Dey Der make cloth dey wear you

God1000:

There's a difference bro, Putin thinks Ukraine and some countries don't have the right to exist, Russia invades to seize territories in other countries and conduct illegal referendum.

US doesn't invade to seize any territory.

About 15% of present-day US territory was stolen from Mexico. That's the size of at least one Nigeria and two Ivory Coast.

Also, hegemonic power like the US don't need to steal land since their machinations are way more evil than taking land. What's the point of stealing land when there is a dollar dominance to milk global wealth from?

Or to arrange a coup and install a puppet, just like Ukraine was replaced with a US puppet after the Maidan coup, and every Ukrainian leader since then has betrayed Ukraine just for the US interest to fight Russia?

Or so-called countries with fake independence that the US can place nuclear bombs on their territory, or blow up their infrastructure and they can't do anything? For example Germany with Nordstream pipeline? or Japan with the plaza accord?

Badassniggga:
I asked you first bruh. Answer me. Since US is the number one at preaching freedom and respecting sovereignty of others. Who invited US to the sovereign country of Syria?

What a fvcking hypocrite.

Why do I have to defend what you said? you condemn the US actions in Syria but praise Russia in Ukraine😂😂😂.

There's no bigger hypocrite than you

Tiopii:


Why do I have to defend what you said? you condemn the US actions in Syria but praise Russia in Ukraine😂😂😂.

There's no bigger hypocrite than you

let's make this simple:
Ukraine, as we know it today, was created by adding ancestral Russian lands and people to ancestral polish lands and people (there are more groups but I'm trying to keep it simple) by the USSR for administrative reasons.
Then some decades after that, the USSR ceased to exist and some of its administrative units (SSR) left to become independent countries, that is how Ukrain SSR became Ukraine.
In 2014 the USA sponsored a coup in Ukraine in order to put anti-russia, pro-nato, pro-eu people in power in Ukraine. The Russian people of Ukraine whom are still aware of their Russian identity and who still love Russia and have family on the other side of the border, they refused to recognise the regime which came to power through a coup. Since then Ukraine has been in a civil war in which NATO sided its puppets and Russia sided its people. Now the war only escalated for reasons I don't need to go into and Russia is intervening directly.


Your media which brainwashes you will never tell you this. Conclusion, USA is using Ukraine to create trouble for Russia, the USA is pushing cousins to fight each other. "Them regular trademark".

There is absolutely zero equivalence between usa actions in Syria and Russia's actions in Ukraine. Russia has the most legitimate concerns and a right to defend its people from genocide and a right to its security, the USA however has no legitimate reason to be in Syria and in Ukraine (Ukraine is under a USA puppet regime).

Funny when world people form an unholy perception about Russia simply because the US has perfected the art of using media propaganda as a weapon to decimate societies.

Even coming up as Children, we were raised with Hollywood movies that always painted Russia as the Devil's advocate. To this day, the US has continued using that tool to twist mindsets and shape perceptions to the detriment of Russia.

I spent over 2 decades of my life seeing Russia as the number one enemy of freewill and human liberty, because the Western media mischievously coated my reasoning with consistent misinformation. Until I found my place in a position where I had the mental push to read about Russia, way beyond what I've always known.

After Adolf Hitler, the number one entity that instigates, sponsors and promotes wars and regional disquiet in other countries, is the United States of America.

Like someone asked above, what exactly is the US going to tell the rest of the world is the reason(s) their military is currently in Syria?

mysticwarrior:
The Soviet union was a confederation and nations joined willingly, it was formed to strengthened military alliances among members. It was created without war and was also disintegrated without war.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Tiopii:


Why do I have to defend what you said? you condemn the US actions in Syria but praise Russia in Ukraine😂😂😂.

There's no bigger hypocrite than you

Answer the question, what is the USA doing in Syria??.

mysticwarrior:
Answer the question, what is the USA doing in Syria??.

They are spreading democracy there as usual

mysticwarrior:
Answer the question, what is the USA doing in Syria??.

So the US and Russia are both imperialist countries then

Tiopii:


So the US and Russia are both imperialist countries then

Just answer the simple question Baba.