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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Tareq1105: 8:45am On Jul 17, 2023
Penguin2:


When we say you lots are pathetic it will seem as if we are talking.

Just a little education….

This Olanipekun’s address has not even been formally laid in court. That would happen tomorrow.

After tomorrow, Obi’s legal team will have 7 days to respond to the written address.

So, where did you see Obi lawyer’s address that is watery?

It was laid on Friday. Calculate 10 days from 5th July.

Let Obi release his on Friday that's 7 days after.

You know what I advise you get full report of the address. Wole Olanipekun actually dealt with all the issues with decided cases.

Wole Olanipekun address doesn't need the applause of obidients or social media. Rather it's addressed to the Tribunal Justices who are not on social media. They are based on what we all saw in the court. The only addition is the decided cases.

Let's see what Obi and Atiku would say in response meanwhile obidients can continue to keep deceiving fellow Obi supporters.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by cmikel: 8:46am On Jul 17, 2023
Bobloco:
Wole Olanipekun is merely giving Tinubu, APC and their supporters false hope



.FRAUD OF AN ELECTION WHAT A COUNTRY



A PLACE WE'RE ALL VALUE IS ON MONEY




THE JUDICIARY IS NOT SPARED ,THE HIGHEST BIDDER WILL WIN THE CASE.




WHAT A COUNTRY







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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by cmikel: 8:50am On Jul 17, 2023
Tareq1105:


I ask you, did the constitution says:

"25% in 2/3 of the states and 'in' the FCT"


or


"25% in 2/3 of the states and the FCT"?

I expect you to know that they are not the same.





You need to see how people from your country are seen as fraudstars abbroad all bc you value money over due process.
















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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Tareq1105: 8:56am On Jul 17, 2023
It's like Wole Olanipekun address is hitting Obi and Atiku badly.

Anytime you hear crying from the camp of your enemy, you should know that the enemies are in danger.

I said this bcoz I think if there's anything Wole Olanipekun failed to do to help Tinubu Case, it should be an advantage to you. Rather, they said he's a fake lawyer.

All the trash obidients are saying here, even Obi and Atiku lawyers understand the weight of the address.

We're watching.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Tareq1105: 8:58am On Jul 17, 2023
cmikel:






You need to see how people from your country are seen as fraudstars abbroad all bc you value money over due process.
.

Then stay in your country.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by garfield1: 8:59am On Jul 17, 2023
Spy360:

Akuko onye awuruma

Beer parlour talk

If you drink beer,I don't.90% of obi supporters are igbos
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Samdolly: 9:05am On Jul 17, 2023
sultanofpigs:
Wole Olanikpekun has stolen TINUBUs mandate and given it back to PO, by virtue of his uselessness as a poorly trained SAN.

Olanikpekun is an Oluwole graduate...

Why quote an electoral act of 1979, which has already been modified in 1999? This man is totally shameless and immensely foolish.

Mizcreants think Propaganda will work for them...
grin

Can I be truthful with you, I don't support a Tunubu presidency, but that written address by Wole Olanipekun SAN is a sound one and saying he didn't mention the case of Oyetola v Adeleke is a fallacy.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by linearity: 9:35am On Jul 17, 2023
helinues:


So 25% spread was applied in Osun election abi having 25% in FCT is also part of Osun election guidelines?

I did not say that, you brought that up to create diversion.

My point is to indicate that, both state and federal elections are conducted by the same body which is INEC.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Penguin2: 9:35am On Jul 17, 2023
Ilaje1:


The constitution didn't give a special status to Abuja, as Abuja resident cannot have super power than other Nigerians. The "and" is a semantics that the Obis and others are taking advantage of because it is ambiguous. Can be interpreted 2 ways. Allow the judge to do the interpretation. According to you if a candidate wins all state with 97% votes each state but fail to have 25% in Abuja, he can't be a president? Do how ludicrous it is to interpret the "and" this way?
There are other instances the constitution referred to the “36 states of the federation and the FCT” like revenue allocation and all, are you saying therefore, that the RAMFAC is at liberty to share to “36 states of the federation” and leave out “the FCT” and they wouldn’t have broken a law since, according to you, AND is just semantics?
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Penguin2: 9:45am On Jul 17, 2023
Tareq1105:


It was laid on Friday. Calculate 10 days from 5th July.

Let Obi release his on Friday that's 7 days after.

You know what I advise you get full report of the address. Wole Olanipekun actually dealt with all the issues with decided cases.

Wole Olanipekun address doesn't need the applause of obidients or social media. Rather it's addressed to the Tribunal Justices who are not on social media. They are based on what we all saw in the court. The only addition is the decided cases.

Let's see what Obi and Atiku would say in response meanwhile obidients can continue to keep deceiving fellow Obi supporters.
It will be laid today in court Mr Man.

You lots have no clue of what is going on in court, that’s why you make the arguments you make.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Penguin2: 9:48am On Jul 17, 2023
Tareq1105:


I ask you, did the constitution says:

"25% in 2/3 of the states and 'in' the FCT"


or


"25% in 2/3 of the states and the FCT"?

I expect you to know that they are not the same.

There are other instances the constitution referred to the “36 states of the federation and the FCT” like revenue allocation and all, are you saying therefore, that the RAMFAC is at liberty to share to “36 states of the federation” and leave out “the FCT” and they wouldn’t have broken a law since, according to you, maybe there is no “and to” the FCT?

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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Penguin2: 9:54am On Jul 17, 2023
yemex04:

I know Lawyers twist Law to suit whatever position they are taking... but then a simple Question for you sir... Do you sincerely in your mind think the spirit or intention of that particular line of the constitution is to elevate thr FCT above others States in Nigeria? I hope you would be kind enough to answer this question.
Have you ever heard of the report by a committee set up specially for the FCT?

Again I ask you, there are other instances the constitution referred to the “36 states of the federation and the FCT” like revenue allocation and all, are you saying therefore, that the RAMFAC is at liberty to share to “36 states of the federation” and leave out “the FCT” and they wouldn’t have broken a law?

Again, why does INEC conduct FCT Local Government elections, something the commission does not do for any other state of the federation?
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by yemex04(m): 10:02am On Jul 17, 2023
Penguin2:

Have you ever heard of the report by a committee set up specially for the FCT?

Again I ask you, there are other instances the constitution referred to the “36 states of the federation and the FCT” like revenue allocation and all, are you saying therefore, that the RAMFAC is at liberty to share to “36 states of the federation” and leave out “the FCT” and they wouldn’t have broken a law?

Again, why does INEC conduct FCT Local Government elections, something the commission does not do for any other state of the federation?







Thank you for your response but still did not answer my Question which goes thus ;Do you sincerely in your mind think the spirit or intention of that particular line of the constitution is to elevate the FCT above other States in Nigeria?

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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by hero2000: 10:22am On Jul 17, 2023
fergie001:
Twitter and cruise...... There is something we call context. Osun had no issue with two-thirds or 25%.

In the history of our democracy, we have only had this situation in the Awo v Shagari time.

At the time, we had 19 States with Shagari winning 12. Awo argued that two-thirds of 19 is not 12, but should be 13.

The SC affirmed Shagari in a 6-1 verdict. The only dissent was Justice Kayode Eso (of Blessed memory)

The question you should be asking yourself is: Why was the Shagari government so shortlived after that judgement?
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by fergie001: 10:24am On Jul 17, 2023
hero2000:


The question you should be asking yourself is: Why was the Shagari government so shortlived after that judgement?
Is 5 years shortlived?
Judgement was in 1979, the Govt was overthrown in 1983, so make me understand!
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by adanny01(m): 11:01am On Jul 17, 2023
DaddyCoool:
This case is NOT about what is the law. It is about who are the judges. ALL these judges were appointed by APC and can be retired by Tinubu who also has the power to appoint them - and have whoever he appoints swiftly confirmed by the APC senate.
Bottom line, this is a kangaroo trial

Your post is clever by half.

If Judges can be retired or appointed by Tinubu, the same judges can be retired or appointed by PO if they make him the president.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by callthefred: 11:07am On Jul 17, 2023
discusant:


If an ex convict served out his conviction, he has no more business being listed as under investigation.
How did you expect the US embassy in Nigeria to write that Tinubu is under investigation in the US?

Advocates for Tinubu are clutching on straws.

It was a civil forfeiture wasn't it?. The truth is the man called Tinubu has too many baggages and that's probably as a result of a troubled childhood. However, legally many of these issues cannot hold in court. That's my point.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Freethinker87: 11:07am On Jul 17, 2023
Wole Olanikpekun is working for Peter Obi. He's our inside man. cheesy grin All will be revealed soon.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Alusiizizi(m): 12:01pm On Jul 17, 2023
chatinent:
It’s actually a smart move. Wole is not a charge and bail lawyer! He actually allows you to make his win very easy!

Let's think it. When he does use outdated case laws, he’ll be reminded, maybe by the other counsel that the 1979 constitution was already amended and he should introduce recent cases similar...just like you are asking. To the other counsel, he made a point. Which other recent case would all fingers point to? It is the Adeleke vs Oyetola to be used as precedent!


Now here is where the politics take place… and what you don't know. Actually, the Adeleke vs Oyetola was created for this case. So Wole let you decide for them to use it. And since you gave them the option, they introduce it as tho standing on the recent protocol you suggested.

Guess what? Since you want to feel more recent with cases, the case will be closed and they will win. If you suggested a recent case, and that case is introduced, you WILL lose the case! You just gave them their evidence!

Why did you think the APC let Adeleke win the case based on INEC glitches?

Oh you felt it was a just judgement? And that the APC will just let go sth as big as the governorship? A sitting party? Lol.


It’s so that it will serves as a premise to dismiss the future plan…. this case.

It's was an organised case law.

Let's check:

The APC-led administration has been subject to criticism due to the economic challenges experienced during their tenures. True.

However, it is noteworthy that they have demonstrated adeptness in engaging in strategic political maneuvers, leveraging their party networks, and creating an illusion of popular participation in decision-making processes. Meanwhile, it is all a mirage in achieving the goal!

Even the Naira design was a plan to make other parties feel there was disunity within the party and they loss guard and failed to plan.

Obi too was banking on popular participation and pity politics. He should have added some backup dark politics too. Oh don't criticize me, politics was always darker.

Check the APC's darker politics. Call it politics 101.

During the past electoral process, a strategy is employed wherein a divisive narrative is constructed, leading to the formation of factions and subsequent tribal conflict....the Igbo-Yoruba tribal war, the Wike-pdp war, and the Kwankwaso assisting to reduce the northern votes.

During the period of tribal conflict between the Yorubas and Igbos, the candidate affiliated with the LP experienced an unexpected defeat in a situation where they were initially considered to have a significant likelihood of emerging victorious.

Check!

Consider the reasons behind the cessation of the overheated tribal conflict subsequent to the victory! The Yorubas were convinced by the APC...the sitting government... that an individual (Lagos indigene) was of mixed heritage and was not considered a genuine Yoruba and instead was associated with the Igbo agenda. I mean, like how did you guys believe that unintelligible tact! So poor!

A significant number of individuals were deceived or say convinced that truly it was Igbos trying to take Lagos...so they fought back, resulting in the government reverting back to its previous state. Lol. The game was the focal point for the APC and they got it.


During elections, we are not Nigerians, we name our states first!

Let's continue...

The LP also was winning the presidential election. They employed the use of commotion in the LP strongholds, and when they saw it wasn't really working cos they were winning Lagos, Aduja, Jos etc, their plan-B was the last hope... EyeNeck !

It was also necessary to adjust the LP's score to the third position to have a better legal case in case.


They banked on the corrupt system. Why? "NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.". That's Nigeria for you! Nothing always not happen to the rich in Nigeria!

Also, don't you forget that the British never stopped colonising Nigeria. They only relocated to their country. It's cost-effective and easier to control pawns from a distance! Like no one will know it's neo-colonialism!


And guess what? The British always supports their pawns!


You see? Democracy isn't never of the people and by the people or for the people. It is actually what the govt wants and the people sees from far. In reality, the majority decisions do not always count!



Word of advice, lay off the crack-pipe, you're being delusional.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by BENEAMATA: 12:22pm On Jul 17, 2023
Penguin2:


I knew the reference was about the FCT argument.

But these are the facts…

In 1979, the FCT was Lagos.

In 1979, the constitution in use was 1979 constitution.

But in 2023, the FCT is Abuja.

And the constitution in use is 1999 constitution which gave a special status to Abuja following the recommendation of the Committee on the FCT; this special status was not enjoyed by Lagos as FCT.

Again, the argument is not about satisfying “2/3” but about satisfying a quasi-independent provision of “25% in the FCT”.

You see why citing that Awolowo vs Shagari case is near useless to the case at hand?
you clearly mentioned fct as having a QUASI-INDEPENDENT provisions yet you still posit that Abuja has special status in matters of election .QUASI - seemingly ,but not actually so - And finally , in which nigerian SAN dictionary does AND means 'separated from ' .The four of them AND i makes the five of us . ' the revenue is to be shared between the 36 state and FIRST BANK 'only means 37 of them are doing the sharing .
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by BENEAMATA: 12:40pm On Jul 17, 2023
Tareq1105:


I ask you, did the constitution says:

"25% in 2/3 of the states and 'in' the FCT"


or


"25% in 2/3 of the states and the FCT"?

I expect you to know that they are not the same.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Penguin2: 12:41pm On Jul 17, 2023
BENEAMATA:
you clearly mentioned fct as having a QUASI-INDEPENDENT provisions yet you still posit that Abuja has special status in matters of election .QUASI - seemingly ,but not actually so - And finally , in which nigerian SAN dictionary does AND means 'separated from ' .The four of them AND i makes the five of us . ' the revenue is to be shared between the 36 state and FIRST BANK 'only means 37 of them are doing the sharing .

Exactly my point.

Now, can you share the revenue among 36 states and leave out First Bank because AND does not matter or is just semantics?
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Frankhendez: 12:48pm On Jul 17, 2023
To many morons here
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by chatinent: 1:08pm On Jul 17, 2023
Alusiizizi:


Word of advice, lay off the crack-pipe, you're being delusional.

Word of advice…read to understand not just reading to comment.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Electorate: 1:08pm On Jul 17, 2023
Hollygrail:
Osun State case is at the state level and not Federal. Also, 1979 constitution amendment birth 1999 constitution and there have several amendments and reforms since then. So, I can tell you that Mr. Olanipekun is right for stating the 1979 constitution. It's allowed.

helinues:
Wailers should rest IJN

Is Osun election federal election?

Why are there so many half baked lots in the opposition's camp?

It would have been better if you both shut your mouth since you know nothing about the law. But because you must defend anything you publicly display your ignorance.

Why would a sane person leave an updated 1999 constitution to quote the edited verson of the 1979 constitution?

Secondly, the 2022 electoral act is for both state and federal and is the bone of contention in electoral disputes.

Both of you should cover yourselves in shame for blindly defending Tinubu and looking dumb for doing so including the legion of dumbos that clicked like to your senseless comment.

Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by BENEAMATA: 1:15pm On Jul 17, 2023
Penguin2:


Exactly my point.

Now, can you share the revenue among 36 states and leave out First Bank because AND does not matter or is just semantics?
bro , the 'AND ' clearly makes it possible for the FCT to be among the entity a presidential candidate can get his minimum required 25per cent from or do we expect nigerians in the FCT to be disenfranchise because the constitution mentioned only the states . simply put , once again , ' a candidate must get 250/0 of two third of [ start naming the states ] . . . . . . . . yobe , adamawa , lagos , kano ,anambra , zamfara AND the FCT . I shudder to think of what ' special status ' brouhaha we'll be treating when another 'AND ' is added to accomodate votes of millions of nigerians abroad .
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by LiteratureClass: 1:43pm On Jul 17, 2023
helinues:
Wailers should rest IJN

Is Osun election federal election?

Why are there so many half baked lots in the opposition's camp?
Before you talk, read the judgement. The judgement says IREV and BVAS records can be relied upon to give a judgement in a disputed election result. Is BVAS and IREV used for state elections only? Fooll
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by sangresan(m): 2:32pm On Jul 17, 2023
Penguin2:


https://twitter.com/AustinNwabufo/status/1680434282739662848?t=WaX_LL4N5AXmFntMIfABWw&s=19


Reading through the written address of Tinubu and Shettima lawyers at the ongoing election petition tribunal led by supposed respected senior lawyer Wole Olanipekun, one can’t help but giggle at the hollowness and shallowness of their defense.

In the address, Mr Olanipekun was busy citing the case of Shagari vs Awolowo that happened as far back as 1979 under the 1979 Constitution and in election conducted by FEDECO, as our electoral commission was called then.

Since 1979, we’ve have had many reformations to our electoral laws and have even changed our constitution.

If anything, the most relevant case as far as election cases are concerned in Nigeria today, is the Supreme Court ruling in Osun in case of Oyetola vs Adeleke. This case is the most relevant because it is the only Supreme Court decision since the Electoral Act 2022 came into force.

Ironically, Mr Olanipekun surreptitiously ignored the Osun case which has a lot of similarities with the case at PEPT as they both bother on the place of technology in our election and to what degree INEC can choose to apply or ignore technology in our elections.

It is pertinent to state these things for the world to hear, read and see, so that we all keep an eye on the judiciary and see what comes out it.

Remember that it is not enough to do justice, justice must also be seen to have been done.


So, what did he cite from the 1979 judgement and how relevant is it to the Osun case?

Look, many of you are clever by half. You cannot even post what he cited yet you're blabbing that he cited from 1979 blah blah blah...

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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by sangresan(m): 2:41pm On Jul 17, 2023
Igbos are the ones making noise about this 25% clause ooo.

One 'charge and bail' Igbo lawyer claimed Olanipekun should have cited the Osun case even when more than 10 different cases including the Oyetola vs. Adeleke case were cited.

In the said Osun case, the Supreme Court let us know that electronic transmission of results couldn't be substituted for manual collation of results. In fact, Oyetola's legal team relied on the BVAS server reports to argue their case, but their appeal was thrown out because the learned judges said they didn't call the presiding officers as witnesses to show there was overvoting in the election. I don't understand why Obi supporters now think this landmark judgement could help their case rather than destroy it.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by sangresan(m): 2:49pm On Jul 17, 2023
And even a toddler knows that the last presidential election was the best in the history of this country bar the rigmarole from Wike in Rivers State. If APC wanted to rig in their strongholds, they would have rigged for Tinubu in Lagos, just like Obi padded his votes in core Igbo states.

There was no way APC would have planned to rig and they would have left Osun and Lagos out their plans. No way.

Let's even assume that the election was rigged. The question is: if the election is reconducted 1000 times, will Obi be able to secure votes in the Northwest, Northeast, Southwest (outside Lagos) and Kwara? Obi cannot secure 18% of total votes in any of those states. His ambition remains a pipe dream.

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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Aiel123: 3:47pm On Jul 17, 2023
fergie001:

The moment Obi & Atiku separated, they gave a free ride to Tinubu.
So they should deal with it.
2027, God keeping us alive, the margin will be more.

Everybody already knows where the judgement is headed unless we want to deceive ourselves.
True .. like Wole said you don't expect the judiciary to perform any magic.

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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Aiel123: 3:49pm On Jul 17, 2023
garfield1:


That's just it.okowa and sheriff struggling over cabinet
Things of this stuff occur.
It's normal.

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