during my final yr in the university(2004), we had a symposium on HIV/Aids and we were informed that out of every 10 sexually active Nigerians, 1 is HIV positive. but to challenge this, i have a very good analysis. i was living in cyprus for like 3yrs ( i once lived in both sides) and every non European is subjected to a compulsory HIV/Aids test. the population of Nigerians living on both sides ( that are sexually active) of the island that had done this mandatory HIV/Aids test is over 5000 and still counting and i am yet to see any Nigerian been deported because of his/her status of being positive to this disease.
so guys i think everyone can decide within him/herself from this little analysis of mine and its subjected to criticism because we are all scholars and we have individual differences.

CAN WE BELIEVE ALL THIS RESULTS ABOUT HIV/AIDS IN NIGERIA

bro honestly for all my years of living in cyprus, i only heard and saw one guy being diagnosed with hepatitis B and he was deported then in 2010, this oyibo people hennnn

Dude, your purported 5000 case studies are those who are free of the disease and were granted visas to North or South Cyprus. Besides, the report under ur critique mentioned that out of every 10 Nigerians (IN NIGERIA), not in Cyprus, so ur judgement is statistically bias, that's not to say their report is correct or beyond dispute.

your 5000 sample size is small and it's not random either. could it be people who decide to leave the country also make good decisions like not sleeping around and using protection? I do agree that the aids number African countries may be skewed, strictly because more money in aid is given if higher numbers are reported. based on the supposed pandemic we should be nigerians dropping like flies from aids but i am not sure that has been the case. maybe they die of other causes before hiv takes full effect. i do know my nigerian friends married and single are very promiscuous, ( A LOT but not close to ALL sha)

simiyoni:

Dude, your purported 5000 case studies are those who are free of the disease and were granted visas to North or South Cyprus. Besides, the report under your critique mentioned that out of every 10 Nigerians (IN NIGERIA), not in Cyprus, so your judgement is statistically bias, that's not to say their report is correct or beyond dispute.

i am telling you based on the numbers of sexually active Nigerians who came to cyprus between 2005 and 2010 are applied for a residence permit. this report on HIV in Nigeria was conducted in 2004 prior to the exodus of these 5000 Nigerians to cyprus, so im sure of what im saying. if the result says 1 out of every 10 sexually active Nigerians was HIV positive then, and there are over 5000 Nigerians that traveled to cyprus (both sides) between (2005-2010) it shows that WHO analysis about HIV in Nigeria is unacceptable.

ATLgal:

your 5000 sample size is small and it's not random either. could it be people who decide to leave the country also make good decisions like not sleeping around and using protection? I do agree that the aids number African countries may be skewed, strictly because more money in aid is given if higher numbers are reported. based on the supposed pandemic we should be nigerians dropping like flies from aids but i am not sure that has been the case. maybe they die of other causes before hiv takes full effect. i do know my nigerian friends married and single are very promiscuous, ( A LOT but not close to ALL sha)

Random means : things Made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision

if you say this 5000 people is not random then WHO result also is unacceptable because this 5000 people in question are not from same city nor from the same family and not from same state. 90% of people living in cyprus had never met each other once in their lives so i think this my analysis is random enough.
HIV is something that grows with time and deciding not to sleep around/protection can be considered but its inconsequential because even the embassy is not asking for your HIV test result,you make this test in cyprus and from a specified hospital(s) or laboratory(s). if they considered that a lot of Nigerians try to protect themselves the result shouldn't be this high.
man lets face the fact, some decisions are taking by western countries that are derogatory to Africans as a whole.

llbhuds:

Random means : things Made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision

if you say this 5000 people is not random then WHO result also is unacceptable because this 5000 people in question are not from same city nor from the same family and not from same state. 90% of people living in cyprus had never met each other once in their lives so i think this my analysis is random enough.
HIV is something that grows with time and deciding not to sleep around/protection can be considered but its inconsequential because even the embassy is not asking for your HIV test result,you make this test in cyprus and from a specified hospital(s) or laboratory(s). if they considered that a lot of Nigerians try to protect themselves the result shouldn't be this high.
man lets face the fact, some decisions are taking by western countries that are derogatory to Africans as a whole.

did you READ why i said it wasn't random? these are people WHO CHOSE to leave NIGERIA in order to get a better life, has it occured to you that such people generally MAKE good decisions in the first place? like CHOOSING NOT to sleep around or USE protection if they do? versus someone living in NIGERIA with no hope for a better future ? this is also WHY the numbers are high,. middle and upper middle class people do not generally go for free NGO and other charity type testings. they'll choose instead to go to a private doc,
it's like when they do studies and decide the average nigerian eats more eba than anything else, WRONG. it's because of their sample population , namely drivers and lower class workers who prefer heavier sustenance than rice
if you sampled this same population you would conclude no nigerians use the internet,

imagine me using the 5000 people in Cyprus as proof that all Nigerians travel,
are you implying that the HIV numbers in nigeria is actually zero? because that's what your post reads like

@Atlgal, if you understand me properly, you will know we are both saying the same thing
dont believe most of this reports by western media

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The statistics can not be precised, is just an assumption.

More grants for them.

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bashylyfe:

More grants for them.

That was d goal of the research ab initio.
what outcome do u expect?

llbhuds:

during my final yr in the university(2004), we had a symposium on HIV/Aids and we were informed that out of every 10 sexually active Nigerians, 1 is HIV positive. but to challenge this, i have a very good analysis. i was living in cyprus for like 3yrs ( i once lived in both sides) and every non European is subjected to a compulsory HIV/Aids test. the population of Nigerians living on both sides ( that are sexually active) of the island that had done this mandatory HIV/Aids test is over 5000 and still counting and i am yet to see any Nigerian been deported because of his/her status of being positive to this disease.
so guys i think everyone can decide within him/herself from this little analysis of mine and its subjected to criticism because we are all scholars and we have individual differences.

CAN WE BELIEVE ALL THIS RESULTS ABOUT HIV/AIDS IN NIGERIA

1. How do you know the number of people deported on health grounds?
2. Are people deported immediately their results are in? Is there an appeal process?
3. Are test results made public?
4. How many people are deported for other reasons?
5. Are the deportations voluntary even when positive?
6. Is it possible to live Cyprus without papers?

In this day and age, modeling infectious diseases is now down to a science. I'm sure those with epidemiology backgrounds can shed more light on the subject.

But just as an anecdote, in the early 1990s, I have seen HIV positive people come to our blood bank trying to donate blood. Some even try multiple times after telling them that their blood is tainted with HIV.

There is HIV but not as much as the various health organisations exagerrate it. I did six months Industrial training in a Nigerian hospital that is an accredited Heart to Heart centre. Therfore I can authoritatively say that HIV does not occur in 1 out of 10 people. Out of the 4325 persons that did their tests there during my stay, HIV positive persons were 118.

chuglothen:

There is HIV but not as much as the various health organisations exagerrate it. I did six months Industrial training in a Nigerian hospital that is an accredited Heart to Heart centre. Therfore I can authoritatively say that HIV does not occur in 1 out of 10 people. Out of the 4325 persons that did their tests there during my stay, HIV positive persons were 118.

Ahhh, some real numbers! So your numbers put the rate at about 3%. Now, all you've captured is the number of people that summoned enough courage to take the test.

How about the people afraid of ever taking a test? Then add the percentage of the population that are not thinking of taking the test because they don't know that they're HIV positive.

This is were statistics come in.

If you want to know more about how the numbers are calculated, start reading from page 13 of the linked pdf (real math starts from page 16):

http://data.unaids.org/pub/manual/2005/20050101_gs_guidemeasuringpopulation_en.pdf

chuglothen:

There is HIV but not as much as the various health organisations exagerrate it. I did six months Industrial training in a Nigerian hospital that is an accredited Heart to Heart centre. Therfore I can authoritatively say that HIV does not occur in 1 out of 10 people. Out of the 4325 persons that did their tests there during my stay, HIV positive persons were 118.

this is what I have been tryin to butress to everyone. The western media always makes theie citizens believe every negative thing is in high proportion in our beloved africa. My first white gf onced asked me if its true that tigers and lions are used aas pets in in africa, Can u imagine?
yes there is HIV in nigeria but not a much as they exzggerate it, U can read my first post on this thread about the cyprus analysis. I think in EU countries, a compulsory HIV test is carried out on all non europeans.

Ahhh, some real numbers! So your numbers put the rate at about 3%. Now, all you've captured is the number of people that summoned enough courage to take the test.

How about the people afraid of ever taking a test? Then add the percentage of the population that are not thinking of taking the test because they don't know that they're HIV positive.

This is were statistics come in.

The data is still biased because they tested only sick people. The figure is supposed to be well above 10% if WHO statistics were to be correct

88% of all statistical figures are made up

m-ployer:

The data is still biased because they tested only sick people. The figure is supposed to be well above 10% if WHO statistics were to be correct

True. But what are the people sick of? She said that the hospital that she worked at was accredited by Heart to Heart centre. Does that mean that the hospital only deals with heart ailments? If true, this would artificially make the number lower.

Like all statistics, the numbers could be flawed based on how and where the sample subjects were chosen. Did they only test a segment of the population? Or concentrated on mostly larger cities? I don't know but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the numbers unless you have evidence to the contrary.

The guy commenting about Cyprus was just making an uninformed observation.

How I wish doctors with first hand knowledge could chime in.

Seems u believe everything u read or reported in the media
Good for you

Nigeria has the 3rd largest number of HIV positive people in the world (South Africa and India are 1st and 2nd respectively) but the HIV prevalence in Nigeria had never reached 10% in the sexually active population. The large population Nigeria has is the reason for the large number of HIV positives. The prevalence in many African countries and in some areas even certaain ares in Washington DC the HIV prevalence rate is higher than Nigeria's 3.8%. You mentioned WHO but it's obvious that the rates you are giving for 2004 cannot be from WHO. Nigeria at present has a HIV prevalence rate (sexually active population) of about 3.8% (male 3.6% and female 4%) and is falling gradually. The gradual fall is because of the persistent high levels in some ares  specifically Benue state with the prevalence of 12% and Nassarawa state and FCT. Other high prevalence areas are Rivers, Bayelsa and Cross River states (much improvement has been acieved in CR State and the prevalence rate is now less than 9%) Kaduna , Taraba and Plateau States also have high rates. The lowest rate is in Ekiti state followed closely by Jigawa. These 2 states have around 1% prevalence rate. An area where Nigeria is lagging so far behind is in the prevention of transmission of HIV from mothers to babies during pregnancy and delivery. This is still happening in much more numbers than anywhere in the world. This is important as it is possible to ensure that no  baby is born with HIV. Nigeria is not doing well there. Treatment of HIV at the moment is for life and if one is born with it  - can certainly be very long unless better treatment is discovered.

llbhuds:

Seems u believe everything u read or reported in the media
Good for you

The media reports information that suits their goals. It is up to you as an individual to gather up all the information at your disposal and independently analyze them for which stories as plausible. God has given us a brain and it is up to us to use it. Only lazy people with half a brain gobble up every information created by someone else without even considering the person's bias.

I did not say that the statistics by WHO was right; I was merely asking what evidence do you have that it is wrong.

You made an outlandish claim and I'm asking you how you came about that conclusion but instead of answering, you made another ignorant claim.

This is an anonymous forum on the internet. I don't know you and you don't know me. Don't just assume that every one you talk to is stupid. Some people actually use their God-given brain to think!

The data is still biased because they tested only sick people. The figure is supposed to be well above 10% if WHO statistics were to be correct

Please explain what  you mean by "supposed to be". The prevalence rate for any country including Nigeria is not computed from hospital patients rate that would be biased. The rate for Nigeria is mainly from the Pregnant women sentinel survey and also from other forms of well designed prevalence studies. You will notice that nearly all women attending ante-natal clinics (ANC) are tested and these are in great majority of cases married women sexually active (That is obvious because they are pregnant) and do not form the Most At Risk Popultion or MARPS.  A rate from ANC clients is accepted as a standard rate for countries. The MARPS in Nigeria have also been studied and they include , Brothel Based Female se.x workers, the street walker female se.x workers , the injectable drug users, long distant truck drivers and Men who have se.x with men (MSM) . All these groups were found to have higher rates than the normal population upto 50% in some brothel based female se.x workers and upto 23% among MSMs in Lagos and Abuja. The most recent study of long distant drivers showed no significant difference with the general public.

Anyway first I want you to show me the source from where the WHO says that out of every 10 Sexually Nigerian there is one person living with HIV. I dont think this is right based on my knowledge, in 2008 I did my IT in SPDC and we had a free voluntary counselling and testing program to sensitize Warri community as well as carry out free HIV test, and I can say that the numbers living positively was really very minute, and if I correlate the result with what is published I would disagree with some of this statistic however this is not to say that Nigeria is not one of the mostly hit in terms of HIV/AIDS, remember we have a huge population with very poor health care system, we also have alot of young people making up the entire Nigeria population so we possible could fall in one of the highest prevelance rates in the world.

If you can to go through our WHO Health statistics for 2008 here is a link on it.

http://apps.who.int/globalatlas/predefinedReports/EFS2008/full/EFS2008_NG.pdf

Most of the developed countries tend to paint the lesser countries in bad light. I dont know about other countries but right here in America, most Americans especially African Americans like to have unprotected sex and they say Africans generally always like to have protected sex. So tell me who is more likely to HIV. Also i work in a hospital and most HIV cases i've come across are certainly not related to Nigerians or Africans. So 4get d BS WHO says they jst say S#$t like this to make themselves look good and others look bad. WHO is living in false denial, they really know d countries that have d highest % of HIV.

llbhuds:

during my final yr in the university(2004), we had a symposium on HIV/Aids and we were informed that out of every 10 sexually active Nigerians, 1 is HIV positive. but to challenge this, i have a very good analysis. i was living in cyprus for like 3yrs ( i once lived in both sides) and every non European is subjected to a compulsory HIV/Aids test. the population of Nigerians living on both sides ( that are sexually active) of the island that had done this mandatory HIV/Aids test is over 5000 and still counting and i am yet to see any Nigerian been deported because of his/her status of being positive to this disease.
so guys i think everyone can decide within him/herself from this little analysis of mine and its subjected to criticism because we are all scholars and we have individual differences.

CAN WE BELIEVE ALL THIS RESULTS ABOUT HIV/AIDS IN NIGERIA

your 5000 sample size is pretty small for a country with 160 million population. . . . .at the same time, some of those hiv statistics in africa, particularly nigeria are cooked up by the health ministry to get foreign aid. the foreign aid are then diverted to the hundreds of pharmaceutical stores
you see around. so the truth lies between your stats and theirs!