MaxInDHouse:


Keep waiting for what you will never get from me, if you have something reasonable call me!
If you like quote me a hundred times i'm not interested in lies!

Aemmyjah:

I see a collabo between a mad apostate and a purposeless atheist (only one to acknowledge his life has no meaning)

Aemmyjah:

Good morning Brother Maximus
How are things?
How's family?
How's ministry?
How's your congregation?
See as country wan turn upside
Here, I'm just busy with academic research and presentations and had to stay off the forums
But I thank Jehovah, he's helping us get rooted in these hard times make wind no blow us away

reubenobi:
you are a hypocrite.

MaxInDHouse:


May Jehovah's loving kindness be with you my brother.
Your friend (oteneaaron) and his cohorts are very thirsty so they're begging for droplets from us but it's a pity i'm not going to attend to them let them go and do whatever they like to any JW found wanting.

Courz:


Wow. Congratulations. I wish you a happy and successful Marriage.

oteneaaron:


Thanks a lot bro.

Courz:


Wow. Congratulations. I wish you a happy and successful Marriage.

oteneaaron:


It is a fact that the rot of sexual abuse of children has eaten deep into the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.
.

Not at all.
The fact that That Judas Iscariot and Peter betrayed Jesus & false brothers betrayed Paul meaning that betrayers had "eaten deep" into the fold of the disciples?

You can't ever disguise your bad belle for JWs.

oteneaaron:


Dear parents, please keep your children safe.

Pedophiles are everywhere - not just among Jehovah's Witnesses.

Stay safe.

oteneaaron:
The Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.28-9 gave the following advice regarding accusations of child abuse.



*Please note the bolded for emphasis.

oteneaaron:

There have been several reasons that pedophiles have been able to find sanctuary amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and that the Watchtower Society is now being held accountable for the actions of its members.

.

oteneaaron:



1. The two Witness rule to establish scriptural crimes

2. The three year rule for sins of Elders.

Other reasons include:

1. Worldly wisdom cannot be trusted

2. Reproach must nt be brought on Jehovah's Organization - Witnesses are expected to solve problems within

3. Everyone must engage in preaching

It was not until the late 1990s, particularly since 1997, that Watchtower made attempts at policy improvement regarding child abuse, following legal and media pressure.

However, the July 2015 Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse showed that Watchtower policies still fall woefully short of accepted best practice.

jaephoenix:

...and he pops up and spews an entire pile of trash, just like I predicted. A mountain of evidence is looking at you. Witnesses, confessions, court indictments, many years of news coverage. You didn't even bother to investigate whether they are true or not.
Why are you always predictable?
This JW virus has gotten in too deep

Oga, your fellow Atheists dey commit atrocities inside "Atheists gathering"

Did your fellow atheists commit the same crime you are WAILING about?
Yes.
The President of Atheists confessed his sexual misconduct to the Washington Post.
Other Atheists have also been indicted for the same crime you are WAILING about.
Oga , remove the rafters from your eyes & clean out the stench in your Atheists fold,Awon supporters of rape.


Abeg carry your mumu GIBBERISH outta here.

"In recent weeks, the press in this country has focused attention on the way accusations of child abuse are handled by various religious organizations.

Such reports may cause some sincere individuals to ask about the procedures followed by Jehovah's Witnesses.

We expect the elders to investigate every allegation of child abuse. Even one abused child is one too many.

However, in evaluating the evidence, they must bear in mind the Bible's clear direction: "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin. At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15)

Later, this requirement to consider testimony of two or three witnesses was confirmed by Jesus. (Matthew 18:16)

Thus, although they investigate every allegation, the elders are not authorized by the Scriptures to take congregational action unless there is a confession or there are two credible witnesses.

However, if two persons are witnesses to separate incidents of the same kind of wrongdoing, their testimony can be deemed sufficient to take action.-" I Timothy 5:19,24,25." - TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES Letter to Elders May 24, 2002

"The Bible says that there must be two or three witnesses before judicial action can be taken. (2 Corinthians 13:1; 1 Timothy 5:19)" Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.28-9

Deuteronomy 19:15 "No single witness may convict another for any error or any sin that he may commit. On the testimony of two witnesses or on the testimony of three witnesses the matter should be established."

Matthew 18:15,16 "Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established."

2 Corinthians 13:1 "On the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter must be established."

Deuteronomy 22:25-27 “If, however, the man happened to meet the engaged girl in the field and the man overpowered her and lay down with her, the man who lay down with her is to die by himself, and you must do nothing to the girl.

The girl has not committed a sin deserving of death. This case is the same as when a man attacks his fellow man and murders him. For he happened to meet her in the field, and the engaged girl screamed, but there was no one to rescue her."

oteneaaron:

Jesus denounced fanatical adherence to the law at the sacrifice of higher principles of love and mercy.

MaxInDHouse:


Gbam!
Attacking the source of divine guidance from the one and only wonderful counselor himself Jesus Christ the only begotten son of God.
Thanks for admitting that Jehovah's Witnesses are following Jesus not the law!

oteneaaron:

Wow.
I'm sorry to ask this, but do you have a comprehension problem?
Or are you purposely acting this way?
Take a step back, read carefully and UNDERSTAND before typing a reply.
Have a great week ahead.

oteneaaron:


Wow.

I'm sorry to ask this, but do you have a comprehension problem?

Or are you purposely acting this way?

Take a step back, read carefully and UNDERSTAND before typing a reply.

Have a great week ahead.

oteneaaron:
The two witness rule is a Biblical guideline that was not expected to apply in every situation.

For instance, Deuteronomy explains that when a girl is raped in a field with no one to hear or protect her, other witnesses were not required to convict the rapist.



Neither does Watchtower apply these passages consistently.

Although Matthew 18:15,16 says to confront a sinner "alone", Watchtower does not expect a person that has been threatened with violence, raped or abused to confront the perpetrator on their own.

Despite finding ways to justify this passage not be taken literally in every situation, Watchtower still insists that it applies to child victims of sexual abuse - WHY?

Each of these Scriptures are directed at adults and not children.

Since there is leeway in how to apply this principle, then there is no doubt that when a child's safety is at stake, every precaution should be taken to protect the child from the very first indication of danger.

The Watchtower's legalistic insistence of the two-witness rule for child abuse is a misapplication of Bible guidance.

Small victimised children cannot usually bring the allegation themselves and need extra protection.

To insist on a strict two witness policy in situations involving defenceless children is an unrealistic Pharisaical policy.

Jesus denounced fanatical adherence to the law at the sacrifice of higher principles of love and mercy.

He graphically demonstrated law does not override humanity by healing a man's withered hand on the Sabbath.

Applying the two-witness rule to pedophile accusations is a case of fanatical adherence to the letter of the law, so denounced by Jesus.

*Please note bolded as emphasis.

MaxInDHouse:


You can run but you can't hide!

https://www.nairaland.com/2936246/christianity-moral
https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse
https://www.nairaland.com/7464041/pagan-christ-book-review

Meanwhile the law never compromised the idea of two witnesses because a girl may feel betrayed if the boy she's been eyeing decided to go for another girl and out of spite lie against the young man claiming she was raped after all there was no tech to discover if she's a virgin before the incident all they need to see is the blood.

Again a young woman may decide to punish her secret lover who has been sleeping with her secretly but suddenly decided to marry another girl, she may invite him for a send-off sex and seize the opportunity to indict him.

That's why two witnesses must suffice and the two must be reputable not known as dubious individuals otherwise their witness may not be considered.

So when Jesus said:

“Stop judging that you may not be judged; for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you." Matthew 7:1-2

He was talking to faithful people who wants to live forever in Paradise because if they're expecting their sins to be forgiven by God they ought to forgive one another! Matthew 6:14-15

Courz:


Watchtower deliberately ignored Those Deutronomy verses you quoted because it does not favour their policy to cover up Child Sexual Abuse.

Their actions have shown that Watchtower is in support of Child Sexual Abuse.

Any Masonic /Satanic Cult engages in the heinous act because it is part of their worship.

All these policies you see them implement is just so that they can continue pleasing the Fallen angels their so called Anointed serve.

If they don't please the Fallen Angels they serve, they will not get messages from them to give to JWs and their Billionaire status will vanish.

Even the UN that they are members of have issues of Sexual Abuse which they also cover up.

It is high time people understood why certain heinous acts happen in certain organisations and why these same organisations spend millions of dollars to cover up these acts.

It is just Almighty God that is exposing all these Satanic organisations one by one.

I am glad that these Victims have no fear and decide to take Watchtower to Court for their harmful policies.

Watchtower will continue to pay millions and millions to victims because more and more victims are coming out to expose them.

JWs should be ready to pay these millions for following a Satanic Cult.

oteneaaron:


I've been good bro.

Fun Fact - I got married to the love of my life this past month.

Sorry say I no send you invitation.



They have more than enough money to pay for the mounting court cases.

8 million Jehovah's Witnesses are ready to donate to the cause.

Moreso their stock and real estate investment is more than enough.

😅😅

Courz:



Don't mind the idiot! That simple English you just typed is a very big problem for him to understand because His Freemason Watchtower has sacrificed his brain to the fallen Angels they receive messages from.

OgaNightmare:


I don tire for this people matter. Dem don dey cast for Pennsylvania like this.

How I wish U.S was like Russia, them for don hear am by now.

OgaNightmare:


I don tire for this people matter. Dem don dey cast for Pennsylvania like this.

How I wish U.S was like Russia, them for don hear am by now.

OgaNightmare:


Congrats bro 👏
You're now a complete man🤝

oteneaaron:

I am not running, neither am I hiding.
Sexual abuse of children is a very serious matter that must not be treated with kid gloves. It can happen to anybody.
Children are innocent and their innocence must be protected at all cost.
We must protect our children from sexual predators - where ever they are found.

Courz:



A good number of congregations here had circuit Overseer visits. It seems to be a worldwide thing because a lot of PIMOs revealed what the COs were saying, begging them not to doubt the Governing body. It is obvious Watchtower is losing so many members. This CO in my parent's congregation was talking about how JWs are wrong for doubting the Governing body because they were forcing them to take the vaccine during Covid. The CO was saying, Don't doubt the Faithful slave. Yes some things they tell you don't make sense but that doesn't mean they are your enemy. It is Satan that is spreading lies about the Covid Vaccine If you listen to the points these COs mention, it shows a lot of JWs are questioning them and are waking up. They are even pleading with people to come to Kingdom hall since Covid is over. I was surprised when my mum told me when she attended, the hall was scanty. I was like, What? That your congregation wey plenty before? Wetin happen?

CO visit that everyone likes to over dress and turn up like one big occasion. A lot of the JWs said they prefer Zoom. Times are changing.

Watchtower is desperate. They are losing members. Just listen to what they keep repeating over and over. You will know they have problems.

OgaNightmare:


They are having reduced attendance in many developed countries including South American countries.

As for my congregation it's getting toxic everyday. It's the worst place to be, your mental health can be in serious danger if you're not careful.
They will never wake up over here, never.
They're are just proud and aloft looking down on people who don't have money and people who are not deceived by their fake love.

OgaNightmare:


I don tire for this people matter. Dem don dey cast for Pennsylvania like this.

How I wish U.S was like Russia, them for don hear am by now.