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Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Tiopii: 7:35pm On Jul 25, 2023
sainttwist1:
Belarus own some tactical nuke remember that

Nukes that Russia can't use, you think Belarus would be able to? those nukes are for posturing and Russia controls the deployment of the nukes. so if it's used it was on Russia's order and both would collect.
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Tiopii: 7:40pm On Jul 25, 2023
mysticwarrior:
The Russo-Circassian War, it lasted for 101 years.

war of 1860s, against a small nation not up to 5M. Russia always picking up small and defenseless nations to conquer.

You think you can fight modern war for that long?
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by endsarrrs(f): 11:35pm On Jul 25, 2023
Padipadi:
Werey I just told you the truth..
Imp like you do not have any truth to say.

Just fvck yourself
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by chronique(m): 8:44am On Jul 26, 2023
Tiopii:


They don't have the strongest, they have the highest number of combat active troops at the moment, not top 10 strongest in Europe.

They barely were trained with NATO up to 6 months, others nations has been in NATO and training with the weapon for years. They have NATO weapons not the experience or expertise.

No. You don't know the history. They have been trained and armed by NATO since 2014/15. They have been preparing for this conflict for a long time.
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by chronique(m): 8:56am On Jul 26, 2023
Tiopii:


The separatist were backed by Russia, Russia don't even deny anymore, most of the separatists involved were also Russian veterans, and where did you think they got weapons from?? They had heavy equipments too. Ukraine wasn't prepared to battle Russia, not the Donbas separatists at that point.

Do you think civilians would go against the military and win?

Most of the training Ukraine got, they got in during this Russia vs Ukraine war.

Yes, they were supported by Russia but it was more or less the determination of the people to defend their land. They didn't have helicopters or fighter jets or ships. Ukraine had all of that plus a very large military complex producing all they needed. Yet, they couldn't overthrow an army of less than 28k people that were mostly not even professional soldiers. Did you read about Givi? He was one of the main commanders of the donbass. He was smallish in stature, had previously applied to join the Ukrainian army and was rejected based on his frame. When the battle for donbass began, he planned and led most of the operations that helped them to push Ukraine out of the donbass towns and cities. Givi couldn't be defeated in battle. He was later assassinated by the Ukrainian army in his office with the help of a parcel bomb or a missile strike to the building(i can't really remember that part of the story).
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Padipadi: 9:34am On Jul 26, 2023
endsarrrs:


Imp like you do not have any truth to say.


Just fvck yourself
fake female, you are the imp. I v much to say cos I m important. Grab vaseline to ease yourself in your room.
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by endsarrrs(f): 8:17pm On Jul 26, 2023
Padipadi:
fake female, you are the imp. I v much to say cos I m important. Grab vaseline to ease yourself in your room.
. Imp......leave my mention
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Padipadi: 9:07pm On Jul 26, 2023
endsarrrs:
. Imp......leave my mention
real imp, you dey craze
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:40am On Jul 27, 2023
Emmyxclusive:
I just realised the guy is just out for lies and propaganda.So I won't reply him again.He's probably a kid.How can Ukraine be the strongest military in Europe when U have France, Turkey, Italy,UK and Germany.
Ukraine had the largest army in Europe after Russia. She's also the biggest in terms of land mass.

You guys have a lot to learn.
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:42am On Jul 27, 2023
00FFT00:
Vladimir Putin is not stupid enough to allow forces under his command or allied to him to set foot on NATO territory. That automatically triggers Article 5 of the NATO Charter, and the consequences are better imagined than experienced.

I've said here in the recent past, and I'll say it again, if it comes to an armed conflict between Russia and NATO, Russia will come out a very diminished entity without Vladimir Putin at the helm. If he goes nuclear, Russia will be history and the rest of us will feel the pain.
Which article 5 man? Everybody is running from world war, your still entrenched in your fantasy.

The recent drying strike on Moscow by Ukraine, do you know how many times US denied involvement?
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:45am On Jul 27, 2023
Beigalodesigns:
You are really funny both nuclear and conventional warfare Russia doesn't stand a chance, u talk about Poland been closer to Russia and will be destroyed before US defend but u forgot US has stationed nuclear weapons in Poland and all other nato countries except for Belarus so Russia won't push a nuclear button without getting fried

Is it so hard for you guys to learn?
US stationed Nukes in Poland? Where did you get that?
If you say, turkey, Germany, uk, France, Italy. These are areas where you can find the numbers and they're even tactical nukes (low yield nukes that can only be carry by aircraft). You know aircraft can be detected and destroyed , even there bases can be modified nutralised before they lift off
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:49am On Jul 27, 2023
sainttwist1:
Belarus own some tactical nuke remember that
You mean obliterate? Are you dreaming?

How many nukes do you think can destroyed a nation? And but to mention the fact that the state even border like three to four NATO countries.

Do you know that only tactical nukes of US are in Europe? , I mean the one that can only be carried by aircraft. How many nukes will scale through air defense to destroy Belarus? Before retaliation from Russia and massive nukes from both artillery, jets and short range missiles in Belarus that can wipe most of the Baltic state
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by 00FFT00(m): 10:52am On Jul 27, 2023
smallrincowis16:

Which article 5 man? Everybody is running from world war, your still entrenched in your fantasy.

The recent drying strike on Moscow by Ukraine, do you know how many times US denied involvement?

What part is your problem:

1. Ukraine sent attack drones to Moscow?
2. Ukraine had the audacity to attack who has been attacking them?
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:53am On Jul 27, 2023
ReubenE:

You just wasted your time responding to those brainwashed cretins. Anytime you see them bring onboard the lame argument of USA running away from Taliban, just know they are ignorant albeit willfully. Is it the same Taliban the USA chased away from power in Afghanistan in two months.
The USA simply made a deal to leave because the Afghan people were not ready to keep their country away from the control of the Taliban despite the USA handing it back to them with the trainings and resources for 20 years.

These people that perpetually engage in the glory singing and ego massaging of Russia, perhaps they don't know Russia also invaded Afghanistan and fought there for 10 years before they eventually withdrew with millions of lives lost in the war and billions of dollars wasted on both sides.
Should we now tag the Russian withdrawal from fighting the Taliban as cowardice or "running away" as they famously tag that of the USA? Madness...

The USA is the single most powerful country in the world by a mile and Russia knows it.
Russia is a powerful country and the USA respects that too.
Don't you see you're intentionally mischievous? USA drove Taliban away? So they teleportically come back to hunt USA in Afghanistan until their withdrawal right?
Yes USA is a superpower but only thrive in threat, terrorism, and media war. Maybe you can tell us one war that was single handedly win by US to start with? I bet you can't find. Since Korea war, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, they always run away at so many resources lost
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:57am On Jul 27, 2023
Minsk24:

You are a big dunce....the Ukrainian army was weak and underfunded....even with NATO support, they still could not put a decisive end to the rebellion in the donbass....
For you to say that the training by NATO allies during the civil war in the donbass was in preparation to fight Russia, it shows brainwashed u are, and please dont quote me again, make thunder no fire you...
What kind of stupid reasoning and assessment is that....
The west stepped in to support the Ukrainian military because the rebellion in donbass started not to long after Crimea was annexed...
If Ukraine army is very strong as u say, why did they not fight to Resist Russia invasion of crimea?
The west stepped into support Ukraine against the rebels because the rebels were backed by Russia, despite western support, the rebels still held onto territory...
So they have now told you that the western support was a decoy to train Ukraine army to invade Russia....shame on you ,shame on you...
Aren't you ashamed of yourself regurgitating propaganda?
Do you know Ukraine fought with NATO in Iraq and Syria before maiden Revolution?
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:58am On Jul 27, 2023
Minsk24:

What do u even know is NATO standard? Does having manpower translate to having a strong military in this modern age....
You have the largest number of troops but no modern equipment , funds and capacity to wage war, does that make u the strongest army in Europe? Are you not ashamed of yourself?
China has the largest number of military personnel in the world, does that make the Chinese army stronger than the USA?
Well, man power can obviously translate to winner in used effectively. In true war of attrition china will obviously outlast the US in any way
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by 00FFT00(m): 11:07am On Jul 27, 2023
smallrincowis16:

You mean obliterate? Are you dreaming?

How many nukes do you think can destroyed a nation? And but to mention the fact that the state even border like three to four NATO countries.

Do you know that only tactical nukes of US are in Europe? , I mean the one that can only be carried by aircraft. How many nukes will scale through air defense to destroy Belarus? Before retaliation from Russia and massive nukes from both artillery, jets and short range missiles in Belarus that can wipe most of the Baltic state

Oga, it has always been said that it is better to keep your mouth shut than open it and confirm one's emptiness. Germany harbors the most contingent of US nuclear weapons in Central Europe.

France is a very potent nuclear power, United Kingdom will not be outdone in this discipline as well. They all possess very effective delivery vehicles, e.g., Submarines, Nuclear capable frigates, land launchers and of course, Bombers, and fighter aircraft capable of delivering satellite guided missiles armed with nuclear warhead.

You hear F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon, and you think these technologies were developed to play ping pong or what?. No surprises from people who live in a country that only struggled to purchase the so-called super-tukano single engine turboprop.

May I remind you that the aircraft is made by Brazil, a country Nigeria was at par with 2 decades ago. Your airlines are now queuing up to purchase Embraer airliners made by the same Brazil and sold all over the world. Nigerians and inferiority complex.

May I ask, what is it with you all obsession with a dictator who murders as a hobby?. Belarus is nothing. Finland and Sweden will effectively shut it down militarily, and don't believe all the nuclear saber-rattling scares anyone, this is that battle where no one goes out victorious. Putin & co know this much.
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Minsk24: 11:12am On Jul 27, 2023
smallrincowis16:

Well, man power can obviously translate to winner in used effectively. In true war of attrition china will obviously outlast the US in any way
This is not true with modern warfare, modern warfare is about equipment, technology and logistics, yes u need manpower but the percentage of manpower as a success rate factor has been steadily declining due to technology... Manpower is a huge factor yes, but it is declining...
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Emmyxclusive: 11:44am On Jul 27, 2023
smallrincowis16:

Ukraine had the largest army in Europe after Russia. She's also the biggest in terms of land mass.

You guys have a lot to learn.
I know all this, my question is since when does largest landmass and population equate to strongest military?
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 9:46am On Jul 29, 2023
Emmyxclusive:
I know all this, my question is since when does largest landmass and population equate to strongest military?
Cos they'll usually outlast country with technology but with small population
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 9:47am On Jul 29, 2023
Minsk24:

This is not true with modern warfare, modern warfare is about equipment, technology and logistics, yes u need manpower but the percentage of manpower as a success rate factor has been steadily declining due to technology... Manpower is a huge factor yes, but it is declining...
Yes it's declining. But today's technology is not mutually exclusive. Everybody can get any technology. So it's usually redundant.

What will outlast is the population

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Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 9:53am On Jul 29, 2023
00FFT00:


Oga, it has always been said that it is better to keep your mouth shut than open it and confirm one's emptiness. Germany harbors the most contingent of US nuclear weapons in Central Europe.

France is a very potent nuclear power, United Kingdom will not be outdone in this discipline as well. They all possess very effective delivery vehicles, e.g., Submarines, Nuclear capable frigates, land launchers and of course, Bombers, and fighter aircraft capable of delivering satellite guided missiles armed with nuclear warhead.

You hear F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon, and you think these technologies were developed to play ping pong or what?. No surprises from people who live in a country that only struggled to purchase the so-called super-tukano single engine turboprop.

May I remind you that the aircraft is made by Brazil, a country Nigeria was at par with 2 decades ago. Your airlines are now queuing up to purchase Embraer airliners made by the same Brazil and sold all over the world. Nigerians and inferiority complex.

May I ask, what is it with you all obsession with a dictator who murders as a hobby?. Belarus is nothing. Finland and Sweden will effectively shut it down militarily, and don't believe all the nuclear saber-rattling scares anyone, this is that battle where no one goes out victorious. Putin & co know this much.
I'm sorry to ask, are you this paranoid.
You mean CIA doesn't murder for fun? This is even what has been verified over time.

You mentioned f35 the jack of all trade- do you even know f35 is still riddle with a lot of teething problems? And even euro fighter, mention an western fighter jet inclusive f22 they're not some kind of alien tech they'll ask be shot down. Stop glorifying shit.
You sound like something who is battling with inferiority complex. Though Nigeria is nowhere to be found when it comes to tech but the is due to our bad character and foolish leaders
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 9:54am On Jul 29, 2023
00FFT00:


What part is your problem:

1. Ukraine sent attack drones to Moscow?
2. Ukraine had the audacity to attack who has been attacking them?
I'm telling you even the US fear world war and fear Russia ni matter how they tried to hide it
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by 00FFT00(m): 11:30am On Jul 29, 2023
smallrincowis16:

I'm sorry to ask, are you this paranoid.
You mean CIA doesn't murder for fun? This is even what has been verified over time.

You mentioned f35 the jack of all trade- do you even know f35 is still riddle with a lot of teething problems? And even euro fighter, mention an western fighter jet inclusive f22 they're not some kind of alien tech they'll ask be shot down. Stop glorifying shit.
You sound like something who is battling with inferiority complex. Though Nigeria is nowhere to be found when it comes to tech but the is due to our bad character and foolish leaders

You see why I normally do not engage Nigerians in meaningful discussions. Most of you are ill-informed, unnecessarily emotional and uncouth. It really doesn't cost much to think, or research before typing nonsense.
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Emmyxclusive: 3:57pm On Jul 29, 2023
smallrincowis16:

Cos they'll usually outlast country with technology but with small population
Go and read about the six days war
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:49am On Jul 30, 2023
Emmyxclusive:
Go and read about the six days war
What's in six day war?

The difference is just the determination and ideology.
You forgot how hizbolah Bleep Israel in 2006? That's determination, desperation and ideology in work
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by smallrincowis16(m): 10:50am On Jul 30, 2023
00FFT00:


You see why I normally do not engage Nigerians in meaningful discussions. Most of you are ill-informed, unnecessarily emotional and uncouth. It really doesn't cost much to think, or research before typing nonsense.

So you've resorted to this?, I'm really not surprised
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by 00FFT00(m): 11:06am On Jul 30, 2023
smallrincowis16:

So you've resorted to this?, I'm really not surprised

What did I do?.
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by haaryobhami: 11:18am On Jul 30, 2023
babajide107:

I repeat let Poland do pass demself for Belarus..and see what happens when you fight a super power you border with.they are not Ukraine but nato..russian will make it quick and fast to wait for response from nato
then u will wakeup from ur dream lol
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by haaryobhami: 11:19am On Jul 30, 2023
babajide107:

Is Poland capable of defending nuclear weapon??you people are funny sha so when Russian lunch now Usa will come and intercept it??poland is too close to Russian for any sort of interception to work.poland will be destroyed and war with nato will start but Poland will be history
the way u guys shout nuclear weapon up and down, someone will think its grenade and only Russia has it
Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by haaryobhami: 11:32am On Jul 30, 2023
Minsk24:

Guy who did this to you abeg?
What was the USA operation in Syria? Did the Americans go there to dislodge the govt? They only armed the rebels and used the guise of isis to come steal oil lol ....u think American boots on ground wont have a dislodged Assad who was on the verge of capitulating before moscow intervene

Gaddafi my left foot....
Brainwashed people wey no sabi anything about news and politics now see Gaddafi as a hero....a hero but your people riss up, pick arms to fight you, go to libya and tell them that gaddafi is a hero, if dem no go use stone break ur head
It's funny how they see gadaffi as a hero,even though Same libya treated black Libyans like slave under gadaffi.
Anybody that hates the west is Saint to them

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Re: Wagner Troops Want To Go On "Excursion" To Poland & Explore West - Lukashenko by Minsk24: 12:56pm On Jul 30, 2023
haaryobhami:

It's funny how they see gadaffi as a hero,even though Same libya treated black Libyans like slave under gadaffi.
Anybody that hates the west is Saint to them
Exactly

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