This our small Forum aka NL has not ceased to amaze me with the manner of individuals that voice out their minds, in many sections but mostly this section for me.

Welcome to the platform where people say the most illogical things while trying to prove a point.

• Some people will try to impose their ideas of your religion on you, and use it to attack you (even when you try to tell them that you don't support that particular point that they are making).
For instance, I'm telling someone that Christianity is just common sense and doing the right thing. The person is asking me, "So why does God torture people in hell forever?"
Question: Did you hear it from my mouth? Why asking me what I didn't say or support?
Even if I say that God doesn't, they refuse to reply and instead switch the argument to something else.

• Still on the matter, people will try to explain your beliefs system to you, in ways that you don't approve — and try to make you look foolish. (Meanwhile you don't even accept the sh!t that they're trying to explain to you).
How can a Muslim be trying to explain Jesus to us using their Qur'an, do we explain Mohammed to them using our Bible? (Failure to recognize that Mr. Fabian and Mr. Fabian are the same name but can belong to two different people.)
When talking about Mr. Fabian from Nigeria, use the Nigerian biography. When talking about Mr. Fabian from Jamaica, use the Jamaican biography.

• The hypocritical people play a larger role, they believe the things that suit them at that time.
The believe only the part of the Bible where Jesus said He came with a sword to divide, but refuse to believe where the Bible said that Jesus is King and He died and resurrected.

• The people that argue from their books Bible and Qur'an but cannot defend when a point is brought out of the Bible/Qur'an.
I'm telling you, "The Bible says..." Or "Your Quran says...." And you're telling me that I won't understand, and saying similar things off point while I'm waiting for you to counter my allegations with the same Bible/Quran.

• The word experts are perhaps the most foolish set of people.
I'm telling you that I worship a God in a place called heaven and blah blah blah... You are telling me that the word 'God' means el-kamikaze this and that, and it basically means a statue/idol.
But wait, did I say I have a statue in my house called el-kamikaze so and so?
People like this make me wish that someone can communicate thoughts instead of words (especially these English words that seem to be borrowed inside out)...

• Other people will just say anything that will generate a reply (I'd say it's boredom and joblessness).

• The people that marvel me the most are not really atheists, but anyone that claims there's no devil or demons... But yet they refuse to help me explain what these illuminati, ritualists and similar dark practices are wasting their time for.

Shout out to LGBTQ+ fans. You were once male/female and you refused to accept that your gender, now you've assumed a new gender and you expect us to accept it? When you couldn't even accept your original gender?

Christianity is just common sense and doing the right things''' yi la mi

talented321:
Christian is just common sense and doing the right things''' yi la mi

Yes, basically.
Is there something else I should know?

Just the truth'' bro

preciousee17:

Yes, basically. Is there something else I should know?

preciousee17:
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• The people that marvel me the most are not really atheists, but anyone that claims there's no devil or demons... But yet they refuse to help me explain what these illuminati, ritualists and similar dark practices are wasting their time for.

It's this part of your post that concerns me as an antitheist.
Illuminati is a secret cult and information on them have always been more of conspiracy theories
As for ritualists, just Google "ritualists caught with human parts" and you'd observe an overwhelming number of the news link you'd get will have hungry looking people being the suspects. It's really rare to see well fed People in these kinda news https://www.nairaland.com/4631082/money-ritual-nigeria-evidence-it

Finally for "similar dark practices" I'd like you to list them so I can talk about my perspectives on them.

hopefulLandlord:


It's this part of your post that concerns me as an antitheist.
Illuminati is a secret cult and information on them have always been more of conspiracy theories
As for ritualists, just Google "ritualists caught with human parts" and you'd observe an overwhelming number of the news link you'd get will have hungry looking people being the suspects. It's really rare to see well fed People in these kinda news https://www.nairaland.com/4631082/money-ritual-nigeria-evidence-it

Finally for "similar dark practices" I'd like you to list them so I can talk about my perspectives on them.

Let's focus on this illuminati cos it's like we are understanding two different POVs... You just dismissed them as conspiracy theory?
I'm talking about the illuminati that is concerned with satan-worship not the Freemasons stories
I'm talking about the illuminati that has an agenda to satanize the world - it's hard explaining if you don't already know. There's textbooks everywhere promoting satanism to children in nursery school level (browse satanism textbook for children).
There's symbols in almost every Disney cartoon aimed at kids and stuff like that.
I'm talking about the Church of Satan kinda guys.
Just dona little research, view some videos and let's dwell on them a little

They might just have been existing just for fame, not supernatural acclaimed fame, but fame caused by delusional taughts.

NB: The more people think bad/immoral about something the more it booms, be it true or false.

preciousee17:


Let's focus on this illuminati cos it's like we are understanding two different POVs... You just dismissed them as conspiracy theory?
I'm talking about the illuminati that is concerned with satan-worship not the Freemasons stories
I'm talking about the illuminati that has an agenda to satanize the world - it's hard explaining if you don't already know. There's textbooks everywhere promoting satanism to children in nursery school level (browse satanism textbook for children).
There's symbols in almost every Disney cartoon aimed at kids and stuff like that.
I'm talking about the Church of Satan kinda guys.
Just dona little research, view some videos and let's dwell on them a little

Busybrain2233:
They might just have been existing just for fame, not supernatural acclaimed fame, but fame caused by delusional taughts.

NB: The more people think bad/immoral about something the more it booms, be it true or false.

They might...
Or might not.

Producing satanism textbook for kids, trying to adjust the curriculum to support open immorality, sacrificial rituals, indoctrinations all planned and executed in secret sounds like a good way to become famous.
Quick question, since the 90s or so, they've been pushing their agenda secretly, people did things in secret and died in secret and we are discussing fame?

Like seriously, I just want to get your point clear, not trying to be sarcastic. But what kind of fame does someone get by doing things in secret and deliberately avoiding public appearances? (Especially their top officials)

preciousee17:

They might...
Or might not.

Producing satanism textbook for kids, trying to adjust the curriculum to support open immorality, sacrificial rituals, indoctrinations all planned and executed in secret sounds like a good way to become famous.
Quick question, since the 90s or so, they've been pushing their agenda secretly, people did things in secret and died in secret and we are discussing fame?

Like seriously, I just want to get your point clear, not trying to be sarcastic. But what kind of fame does someone get by doing things in secret and deliberately avoiding public appearances? (Especially their top officials)

this is illuminati website, can you read about then properly?

https://official-illuminati-brotherhood.com/about/

Because it has been refined over millennia to be maximally effective at manipulating people by controlling their behaviors, thoughts, beliefs, fears, and emotions, always under the constant threat of an invisible boogeyman in the sky who will condemn them to eternal torture for not doing what the religious leaders tell them to do.

Yeah, despite their secrecy and hiding from religious men that wanted to persecute them, it still got them Recognition/fame regardless.

The problem now is that what illuminati was understood to be those days, differs from what people see it to be today.

It was on 1 May 1776 that Adam Weishaupt, a professor of law at the University of Ingolstadt, founded the Order of the Illuminati, a secret organisation formed to oppose religious influence on society and the abuse of power by the state by fostering a safe space for critique, debate and free speech.

preciousee17:

They might...
Or might not.

Producing satanism textbook for kids, trying to adjust the curriculum to support open immorality, sacrificial rituals, indoctrinations all planned and executed in secret sounds like a good way to become famous.
Quick question, since the 90s or so, they've been pushing their agenda secretly, people did things in secret and died in secret and we are discussing fame?

Like seriously, I just want to get your point clear, not trying to be sarcastic. But what kind of fame does someone get by doing things in secret and deliberately avoiding public appearances? (Especially their top officials)

Busybrain2233:

Because it has been refined over millennia to be maximally effective at manipulating people by controlling their behaviors, thoughts, beliefs, fears, and emotions, always under the constant threat of an invisible boogeyman in the sky who will condemn them to eternal torture for not doing what the religious leaders tell them to do.

Yeah, despite their secrecy and hiding from religious men that wanted to persecute them, it still got them Recognition/fame regardless.

The problem now is that what illuminati was understood to be those days, differs from what people see it to be today.

It was on 1 May 1776 that Adam Weishaupt, a professor of law at the University of Ingolstadt, founded the Order of the Illuminati, a secret organisation formed to oppose religious influence on society and the abuse of power by the state by fostering a safe space for critique, debate and free speech.

African religions don't teach anything about eternal torture yet they fear the Gods so you're wrong religion isn't about the eternal torture but believe in the supernatural beings that'll help them if they adhere to what is good!

@Preciousee17. I replied your post only to discover later that I've been banned for the post I made by antispambot. It's a pity cuz I felt this could've been an interesting and fruitful discussion I'm which we both learn from each other but I guess it's not meant to be

preciousee17:


Let's focus on this illuminati cos it's like we are understanding two different POVs... You just dismissed them as conspiracy theory?
I'm talking about the illuminati that is concerned with satan-worship not the Freemasons stories
I'm talking about the illuminati that has an agenda to satanize the world - it's hard explaining if you don't already know. There's textbooks everywhere promoting satanism to children in nursery school level (browse satanism textbook for children).
There's symbols in almost every Disney cartoon aimed at kids and stuff like that.
I'm talking about the Church of Satan kinda guys.
Just dona little research, view some videos and let's dwell on them a little

You're feeding off hypes or media. Illuminati is just a 'cult' like hopeful said. Aint nothing demonic there. Do your research

preciousee17:

They might...
Or might not.

Producing satanism textbook for kids, trying to adjust the curriculum to support open immorality, sacrificial rituals, indoctrinations all planned and executed in secret sounds like a good way to become famous.
Quick question, since the 90s or so, they've been pushing their agenda secretly, people did things in secret and died in secret and we are discussing fame?

Like seriously, I just want to get your point clear, not trying to be sarcastic. But what kind of fame does someone get by doing things in secret and deliberately avoiding public appearances? (Especially their top officials)

Illuminati producing Satanism books? Bro, are you sure we're talking the same illuminati here?

hopefulLandlord:
@Preciousee17. I replied your post only to discover later that I've been banned for the post I made by antispambot. It's a pity cuz I felt this could've been an interesting and fruitful discussion I'm which we both learn from each other but I guess it's not meant to be

I'm very open to a nice discussion. I'm on WhatsApp.

jaephoenix:

You're feeding off hypes or media. Illuminati is just a 'cult' like hopeful said. Aint nothing demonic there. Do your research

There's a way to look at things.
I could easily say that the satanists promote the Satanism stuff and so on (by the way, leave that mindset that everything on social media is 'hype', search for Satanism textbooks and see it on online stores, search for new proposed curriculum by UNICEF (I don't know how you'll get this but you may be lucky), search and see them... Then okay let's say that whoever is promoting all these evil trend is a satanists, not illuminati.

But the illuminati secret Cult as you choose to accept it, aren't they made up of the leaders of this world? Top political and influential figures...
Aren't they the ones running the UNICEF and so on... So if UNICEF begins to give off satanic vibes, can we agree that their leaders, who are in the illuminati are also satanists?