MightySparrow:
He was asking for why.



If He didn't get the answer, why are you asking?

preciousee17:
Look for something reasonable and do... You think Christianity is paining you? Wait for hell fire and you'll understand which one should pain someone.

Truthday:
Matt. 27 Verses 46

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Why worship a God forsaken Jesus? Jesus himself is a murderer that's why God forsake him

judatech:
Op e be like you like fight Jesus...hmmm

chuose2:

Jesus paid the price for you and I.

He took our judgement for sin and nailed it to the cross.

Colossians 2
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances(judgement) that was against us,
which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers,
he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

God the Father through God the Son Jesus did what allah cant do.

Truthday:
Matt. 27 Verses 46

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Why worship a God forsaken Jesus? Jesus himself is a murderer that's why God forsake him

IslamVIRGINS:



God never forsake Jesus, it was Allah that forsake Muhammad after he was poisoned to death. Both books, Quran and Bible made us to understand that Jesus Christ died and resurrected, he is alive as we speak according to both books. Muhammad on the other hand was abandoned by his own Lord, he was rotted for three days before been buried. People around his corpse thought his Lord will resurrect him

Your topic should be address to Muhammad and his lord that was been forsake by his own supreme deity

preciousee17:
Another gibberish on NL this morning...

That's to show that our God obeys His own Laws.

"The eyes of the Lord cannot behold iniquity"

Jesus hung on that cross with the sins of the world.
God couldn't behold iniquity...
God couldn't look at Jesus.

Look for something reasonable and do... You think Christianity is paining you? Wait for hell fire and you'll understand which one should pain someone.

IslamVIRGINS:



God never forsake Jesus, it was Allah that forsake Muhammad after he was poisoned to death. Both books, Quran and Bible made us to understand that Jesus Christ died and resurrected, he is alive as we speak according to both books. Muhammad on the other hand was abandoned by his own Lord, he was rotted for three days before been buried. People around his corpse thought his Lord will resurrect him

Your topic should be address to Muhammad and his lord that was been forsake by his own supreme deity

AntiChristian:


1. Jesus said God has forsake him, why tell lies?

AntiChristian:

2. Muhammad died few years after eating poison! Your John the Baptist was beheaded as a birthday gift! Did your God abandon John too?.

Truthday:


So, Jesus can cry river ?? Cry cry baby 😂😂😂🤣😂

Maynman:
He went to Mount of Olives to pray 3 separate times to yahweh but he got negative response.

IslamVIRGINS:


If Allah could raised Jesus to himself, why can't he raised muhammad to himself also? YOU HAVE TO COVER YOUR EYES IN SHAME

“Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.” (An Nisaa’/The Women: 158)

Here is Muhammad affirming the coming back of Jesus, telling his followers that Jesus is alive

and it will be at this very time that Allah will send `Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) who will descend at the white minaret in the eastern side of Damascus, wearing two garments lightly dyed and placing his hands on the wings of two angels. When he will lower his head, there would fall drops of water from his head, and when he will raise it up, drops like pearls would scatter from it. Every disbeliever who will find his (i.e., `Isa’s) smell will die and his smell will reach as far as he will be able to see. He will then search for Dajjal until he will catch hold of him at the gate of Ludd (village near Jerusalem), and will kill him
[Sahih Muslim]

It will not come until you see ten signs before and (in this connection) he made a mention of the smoke, Dajjal (i.e the anti-Christ), the beast, the rising of the sun from the west, the descent of Jesus son of Mary (Allah be pleased with him), the Gog and Magog, and land-slides in three places, one in the east, one in the west and one in Arabia at the end of which fire would burn forth from the Yemen, and would drive people to the place of their assembly.”
[Sahih Muslim]

This is Aishat narrated what killed muhammad. How am I lying? Ordinary poisonous food sent Muhammad to grave while all your books (Quran and hadeeth) made you to understand that Jesus Christ is alive, why did Allah forsake muhammad? Why can't his lord save and resurrect him as he did to your Quran Jesus?

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713

AntiChristian:


There's no shame in this. The real shame is in your ignorance. Allah raised Jesus and prevented him from death at about 33 years! Jesus would come again to complete his life, get married and die just before the world ends! On the other hand Muhammad died at around 63 years, that's about 30 years more than Jesus. And he has completed his message and destiny on earth!

More so, Allah mentioned in His holy Book, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “And mention in the Book (the Qur’an) Idrees (Enoch).Verily! He was a man of truth, (and) a Prophet. And We raised him to a high station” [Maryam 19:56-57]

So Idrees (Enoch) too was raised up!



Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “By Allah, the son of Mary will descend as a just ruler. He will abolish the cross, kill the swine, and annul the tribute, but he will leave the she-camel such that no one collects from it. He will cause rancor, hatred, and envy to disappear, and he will call people to give their wealth in charity but no one will need it.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 155
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

His ruling justly is ruling with Qur'an and Sunnah!
Abolishing the cross is cancelling trinity and death on the cross as false!



Where did Allah say he forsake Muhammad?
Jesus himself asked God why he forsook him in your Bible!

Jesus was sentenced to death by hanging!
John was condemned to death by beheading as birthday gift!
Muhammad died of poisoning after few years!

So what else?

FxMasterz:

Allah already said he'll cut off Mohammed's aorta if he was found to be a false prophet. And that's exactly what happened. Mohammed himself confessed that his aorta was being cut off until he died.

You Muslims say the poison he took was not responsible for the cutting of his aorta since he died 2yrs after tasting the poison. So, if it wasn't the poison that was cutting it off, who was cutting off Mohammed's aorta? Allah! That means Mohammed was certainly a false prophet!

That verse of scripture where Jesus said 'My God, my God, why hath thou forsaken me?' is one of the strong pillars of the Christian faith. Maybe you don't Know. Every Christian who reads this verse on this thread would draw closer to God. And I'll tell you why.

When Jesus went to the cross, He took my position and gave me His own position. He was bound that I may be free. He was condemned that I may be justified. He was mocked that I may be celebrated. He was whipped that I may be healed. He was forsaken that I may be accepted. He died that I may live.

By carrying upon Himself, my sins and the sins of the world, God, who could not behold iniquity had to look away. Jesus had to yell that way so that I can know the value of what He did for me. In that moment of time on the cross. Jesus was the sinner (me), and I became the righteous (Jesus). Glory to God in the highest.

Lord Jesus, I thank you for all you did for me on the cross. You were forsaken that I may be accepted. Open the eyes of truthday and antichristian so that they may know the value of your love for them. Deliver them oh Lord from the deception of Satan who wants them to reject your love so that they may become eternal candidates of hell. Thank you Lord Jesus. I ask this Father in JESUS' mighty name.

AntiChristian:
Where did Allah say exactly that?

Death killed Muhammad and will kill everyone! And Allah controls death!

These are lies! You had no position in the world! You will carry your Burden and Jesus will carry his own!



Deuteronomy 24:16 says no man can die for another's sin!



O Allah! “O Allah, show FXMASTERZ the truth as truth and guide him to follow it. Show him the false as false and guide him to avoid it.”

No one guides to the truth except you!

Their Bible has told told them Jesus can do nothing by himself but they are blind and deaf! Do open their eyes and ears!

FxMasterz:


Which Allah are you praying to? The one that sent you to kill infidels? He can't save. If he could, he wouldn't send you to kill!

You're asking me to quote a well known verse where Mohammed claimed his aorta was being cut? Let me call on TenQ and Advocatejare to give you the verse. Keep on deceiving yourself.

You're not the one to tell me whether what Jesus did for me are lies or truth. I'm a recipient of His love. I know what I received.

Did Deuteronomy say that no man 'Can' die for another man? Liar! Quote the verse, let's expose you!

TenQ:


EVIDENCE FROM ISLAMIC SOURCES
But then, How did Mohammed Die?
A little History:
Zaynab bint Al-Harith was a Jewish woman who attempted to assassinate
Muhammad by poisoning after the battle of Khaybar after their defeat
fat the hands of the Muslims. In the course of negotiating the terms
of surrender, Zaynab volunteered to cook a lamb for Mohammed.
Mohammed took some of the lamb meat and chewed a morsel of it, but he
did not swallow it. Bishr b. al-Bara b. Ma’rur who was with him took
some of it as the apostle had done, but he swallowed it, while the apostle spat it out, saying, ‘This bone tells me that it is poisoned.’ Bishr became paralised and died shortly after.

Zaynab's Motivation:'
The Messenger of God called Zaynab, and said, "Did you poison the shoulder?" She said, "Who told you?" He replied, "The shoulder." She said, "Yes." He asked, "What persuaded you to do that?" She said, "You
killed my father, my uncle and my husband. You took from my people what you took. I said to myself: If he is a prophet he will be
informed. The sheep will inform him of what I did. If he is a king, we will be relieved of him."

From that time, Mohammed's health deteriorated badly and died with no
one able to help him recover.
Contrary to some modern Muslims recent narratives, here is what

Mohammed himself said:
Mohammed's Testimony:
1. Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

2. Sahih al-Bukhari 2617: Book 51, Hadith 49
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet (ﷺ) who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Messenger

3. Sunan Abi Dawud 4512 : Book 41, Hadith 19
Narrated Abu Hurairah:
.....
This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ate of it and the people also ate.
He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur
al-Ansari died.
So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) then ordered regarding her and she was killed.
He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar.
This is the time when it has cut off my
aorta.

FxMasterz:


Thank you my beloved brother for giving us a detailed response. He knew I'm not well versed in their books and thought of using that against me.

Can you imagine? If Jesus or any of the apostles have eaten that poison, nothing would have happened to him. Bishop Oyedepo once ate poisoned food in the house of someone he visited. Nothing happened to him. Is Bishop Oyedepo not greater than Mohammed?

Antichristian, over to you.

TenQ:


EVIDENCE FROM ISLAMIC SOURCES
But then, How did Mohammed Die?
A little History:
Zaynab bint Al-Harith was a Jewish woman who attempted to assassinate
Muhammad by poisoning after the battle of Khaybar after their defeat
fat the hands of the Muslims. In the course of negotiating the terms
of surrender, Zaynab volunteered to cook a lamb for Mohammed.
Mohammed took some of the lamb meat and chewed a morsel of it, but he
did not swallow it. Bishr b. al-Bara b. Ma’rur who was with him took
some of it as the apostle had done, but he swallowed it, while the apostle spat it out, saying, ‘This bone tells me that it is poisoned.’ Bishr became paralised and died shortly after.

Zaynab's Motivation:'
The Messenger of God called Zaynab, and said, "Did you poison the shoulder?" She said, "Who told you?" He replied, "The shoulder." She said, "Yes." He asked, "What persuaded you to do that?" She said, "You
killed my father, my uncle and my husband. You took from my people what you took. I said to myself: If he is a prophet he will be
informed. The sheep will inform him of what I did. If he is a king, we will be relieved of him."

From that time, Mohammed's health deteriorated badly and died with no
one able to help him recover.
Contrary to some modern Muslims recent narratives, here is what

Mohammed himself said:
Mohammed's Testimony:
1. Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

2. Sahih al-Bukhari 2617: Book 51, Hadith 49
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet (ﷺ) who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Messenger

3. Sunan Abi Dawud 4512 : Book 41, Hadith 19
Narrated Abu Hurairah:
.....
This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ate of it and the people also ate.
He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur
al-Ansari died.
So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) then ordered regarding her and she was killed.
He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar.
This is the time when it has cut off my
aorta.

Ohyoudidnt:
Failed assassination attempts against the Holy Prophet sa
A noteworthy point to make here about the isolated assassination attempt by poisoning at Khaybar is that this is not the only time the opponents tried to assassinate the Prophet Muhammadsa, in fact, there were many more failed attempts, some of which are as follows:

We find one attempt by the Jews to kill him when he was just an infant staying with Halima Sa’diyya. (Sunan Abi Dawud, 3004)

Abu Jahl plots to kill him but flees when angels intervene. (Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah – The Life of Muhammad, trans. A. Guillaume, Oxford University Press, Seventeenth Impression, 2004, pp. 133ff.)

The people of Ta’if throw stones at Prophet sa, leaving him drenched in blood. He survives and the people of Ta’if accept Islam instead. (Sir Muhammad Zafrulla Khanra, Muhammad: The Seal of Prophets, Islam International Publications, 2012, p. 66)

Umar plots to kill the Prophet sa but instead accepts Islam and is now buried next to him. (Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmadra, Life of Muhammadsa, Islam International Publications, 2013, p. 38)

A party of disbelievers puts a cloth around the Prophet’s sa neck and drags him to kill him, however, this was intervened by his companions. (Ibid, p. 17)

The Meccan tribes try to kill the Prophet sa before he migrates to Medina. They wait outside his house all night, however, he has already left. (Ibid, p. 50)

A bounty is put on the head of the Prophet sa during the migration of Medina. Suraqahra b. Malik locates the Prophetsa, but rather than killing him, he eventually accepts Islam. (Ibid, p. 52)

The Prophet sa is confronted by a man with a sword while he is resting under a tree. The man says to the Prophetsa ‘Who will save you now?’. The Prophetsa replies ‘Allah’. Rather than killing him, the man drops his sword and becomes a supporter of Islam. (Rashid Choudhry, Stories from Early Islam, Islam International Publications, 1990, p. 121)

Banu Nadir appoint ‘Amr b. Jahsh to throw a boulder on the head of the Prophet sa from a cliff. The Prophet sa is informed by Angel Gabrielas about this, and their plan fails. (William Muir, The life of Mahomet and history of Islam to the era of the Hegira, Vol. 4, 1861, Smith, Elder & Co., p. 308)

A hypocrite plans to kill the Prophet sa: Ibn Hajar states, “Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr mentioned in his Kitab ad-Durar that the Prophet sa passed by him while he was intent on suddenly attacking him, and so the Prophetsa asked, ‘What are you thinking about?’ He said, ‘Nothing. I was engaged in the remembrance of Allah.’ The Prophet sa laughed and said, ‘I seek forgiveness from Allah for you’ then placed his hand on his chest. ‘Fadala said, ‘By Allah, he had not even lifted his hand from my chest until I did not find anyone more beloved to me on the face of the earth than him.’” (Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 93, Hadith 599)

The botched assassination attempt of ‘Aqaba 9 AH mentioned in Dala’il an-Nubuwwah, al-Bayhaqi, V. 5, p. 256, Dar-ul-Isha‘ah, Karachi, 2009)

The failed attack on the Prophet sa in the valley of Hunayn. The Prophetsa returned stating: ‘I am the Prophet, there is no untruth about it’. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Kitab al-maghazi, 4316)

And finally, the poisoning attempt at Khaybar.
These are just but a few failed attempts at the life of the Holy Prophet Muhammadsa. Can anyone, after reading this, stand up and say that God did not indeed protect the Prophet sa?

We will now investigate the main point of discussion, i.e., no. 13, which inevitably has the same outcome as the 12 before it.

The isolated case of the poisoning attempt at Khaybar
Like all the incidents above, this incident also testifies only to the truth that indeed God was with the Holy Prophet sa.

Let us now delve into the sources.

Everything hinges on a series of varied narrations found in the books of Hadith regarding the incident of Khaybar in which the Holy Prophet sa was presented with some poisoned meat. This event took place in 6/7 AH. The various narrations are as follows:

Abu Hurayrahra narrated, “When Khaybar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophetsa as a gift [by the Jews]. Allah’s Messenger sa said, ‘Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me.’ The Jews were gathered and Allah’s Messengersa said, ‘Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you about something?’ They replied, ‘Yes.’ He asked, ‘Have you poisoned this sheep?’ They said, ‘Yes.’ He asked, ‘What made you do that?’ They said, ‘We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would have got rid of you, and if you are a Prophet then the poison would not harm you.’” ( Sahih al-Bukhari, Kitab att-tibb, 5777)

Anasra reported, “A Jewess came to Allah’s Messenger sa with poisoned mutton and he took of that what had been brought to him. He called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said, ‘I had determined to kill you.’ Thereupon he said, ‘Allah will never give you the power to do it.’” (Sahih Muslim, 2190a)

Abu Hurayrahra narrated, “When Khaybar was conquered, a (cooked) sheep containing poison, was given as a present to Allah’s Messenger sa.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Kitab att-tibb, 4249)

When the Prophet sa had rested, Zaynab, the daughter of al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam prepared for him a roast lamb, having first inquired what joint he preferred. When she learned that it was the shoulder she put a lot of poison in it and poisoned the whole lamb. Then she brought it in and placed it before him. He took hold of the shoulder and chewed a morsel of it, but he did not swallow it. Bishrra b al-Bara’ b. Ma‘rur who was with him took some of it as the Prophet sa had done, but he swallowed it, while the Apostle sa spat it out, saying, ‘This bone tells me that it is poisoned.’ Then he called for the woman and she confessed, and when he asked her what had induced her to do this she answered: ‘You know what you have done to my people. I said to myself, ‘If he is a king I shall ease myself of him and if he is a Prophet he will be informed [of what I have done].’ So the Prophet sa let her off. Bishrra died from what he had eaten. (Life of Muhammad, Ibn Ishaq, Translated by A Guillaume, Oxford University Press Karachi, 1998, p. 516)
The Conquest of Khaybar occurred in 7 A.H. (Life of Muhammad, Ibn Ishaq, Translated by A Guillaume, Oxford University Press Karachi, 1998, p. 510)