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|Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 6:39pm On Aug 13|
One of the most impressive thing about the Yoruba language is it's scientific nature. It has the ability to validate scientific inputs if new finding is linguistically correct or accurate.
Last time I tried to establish "ro', it led me to discover ancient Yoruba understanding of the water cycle. Something like it is also in the offing: the Yoruba language is scientific.
A scientific language is a thinking language. "Ìwò", which is a variant of ewo is the direct opposite of the subject matter. Assume where Ewo means "entry barred", Iwo would mean "entry".
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 6:43pm On Aug 13|
Ìwò As Hook
In Yoruba, the word Iwo also stands for "hook". As a result, the sensibility of this meaning is that it's the "entry" point that the fish swallows. It is what "enter" into the fishes mouth.
Observe how this is used in a proverb: "mofinu wenu, mo jewo" (I took every motive as mine and ate the poison) here, the speaker had a friendly disposition to all, believing everyone who are in his life were good friends, he ended up being poisoned.
The poison here is not majele but iwo, which is a killer-hook disguised as treat from a friend (an enemy pretending to be a friend). The unsuspecting victim ate the Iwo only to realize his mistake at the point of death.
Majele is quite different from Iwo: majele kills instantly, it is majele because the person who eat it won't eat another. But Iwo incapacitate the victim and make him a captive to the adversary. As such, the difference is clear.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 6:43pm On Aug 13|
Iwo As Question Mark
Then there's something about the shape of the hook, it looks like question mark. Question mark looks like "iko". Iko is prefix in "ikoti" a weapon ascribed to the Ota, possibly a variation of ele in [Iganmode a]fele ja.
Now let's look at this together, when the Yoruba says "nko", it's a question, a different form of "question" is "abi", "ibere" or "ibini". A dialectic variation is Ijesha's "siko" and another, "wo" among the Awori.
Then if you grew up before the millennium, we used to say "asko o" and make a sign of the hand with it. It equally looks like the question mark or sickle. All these reminisces the question mark.
Iko, curve, sickle, siko, asko, wo, bend. This is not the only place you have sometthing like that, the phenomenon abounds. The harrower looks like number seven, it is called akoro in Yoruba, meaning "dash and slant": a~ that which, ko~ hook up, ro~ bend.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 6:44pm On Aug 13|
Wò As Content ~ With Won As Context
Another angle is wò, to enter. This is the angle that implies "content". Here, Iwo is what goes inside a container. Iwo is the unit of item that goes into the container, while iwon is the total number of items that the container can take or the "volume" of the container itself.
At the end, iwo is like the inbound item and the container used to do the measurements is iwon. Therefore, Iwo and E-won technically describe relationship between "inbound" and "inlet".
The difference is that Iwo could be a thing or many things, at which point Iwo becomes iwon: in the same vein, iwonba thus means "a moderate measure". Moderate is "iba" in this combination, and also moderate is a function of quantity.
Iwon is therefore a measure of quantity. Won is the scalar calibration of measurements that a container can carry. This is not immediately visible linguistically. Compare the sentence "E won De Rica rice meji" meaning, "measure 2 derica of rice".
Won in Yoruba language is measurements of all kinds. As a result, E-won is not actually prison in "the prison", but the "measure of term" that the convict will serve. Iwo is to initiate the measurements by commiting a crime, whereby, ewo is the inertia.
Now let's look at Iwo as meaning "entry": it's this clear that Iwo is nesting, which if apply to a human being would mean solitary confinement. Iwo is therefore to enter into (trouble) legal wise, hence it's said "o ti wo gau".
Iwo and ewon are thus composite ancient legal terms. Iwo is the content, while iwon is the context in which the content is served. Iwo is the content, iwon is the volume of content to a container.
On the other hand, Ewo is "the deterrent" that negates iwo, while owo is the "immunity" that prevents someone from becoming a victim of the law, as Oluwo. In extension, owo is divine immunity against accident, attacks from criminal elements or malevolence forces.
Now if you are painstakingly tracking Yoruba language and it's semantics, given that you are accurate in your work, then provident will guide you on. Note where I claimed "won" means "break" of an iron?
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 6:45pm On Aug 13|
There are 16 ancient chapters of Ifa, each is coined from words derived from recess of classic events in ancient Yoruba history. For instance, the sixth chapter of Ifa is named "owonrin meji". The question is, what is owonrin?
Well it's a good piece of clause. However, owonrin has fascinated our fathers of old and priests of ancient Yoruba who have tried to interpret the clause with anecdotes to be found in Ifa.
One of such systematically interpret owonrin in half as "scarcity". But going by the sense of the phrase, owonrin doesn't have anything to do with scarcity.
Rather, owonrin simply implies "iron breaker". That's a phrase that has been formed from the ancient Yoruba idea of divine justice, a strong hero that cannot be shackled in iron or imprisonment.
Now, going by this discovery, the thought that a shackle breaker tradition exist in Yoruba of old validate my claim on ateworo.
The bolded is the context from where the phrase owonrin was coined. The verb is almost obsolete.
Won as "break" is the source code for Owonrin, combined with irin, Yoruba for iron. The phrase became an entry in Ifa as of old.
The priests of old could not break the phrase because the source of the phrase has to be known before it can be decrypted.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 6:58pm On Aug 13|
Back in basic chemistry, we were told that the elements that occupied the 8th column of the periodic table are Noble gases, because they don't take electron or discharge electron.
Inert, at the point of rest. A body will continue at a point of rest or on constant motion. That is the inert state of every body in existence. Any disturbance on this order is the inertia.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by MetaPhysical: 12:38pm On Aug 17|
Good day bro! Mo yo fun e, mo yo fun ara mi!
When I try to stay away from here you always deploy something to return me. . Not that I complain. Reading you is a mental therapy. . God continue to bless and make your ways easy and profitable.
In networking technology there is a function called packet sniffing. You have billions of packets going through a tunnel and you are looking for a particular data stream. To find it you do what is called "tcp dump". It is a filtering process to deep dive and extract what you need from the multitude. Another way I will explain it is taking a chaotic information, descramble it, then reassemble it, and recompose before presenting in a new format where it is clear to an audience. In its original form it is useless to the audience. As the agent of clarity you have produced value, and an outcome.
I see your "dump" as exactly that function of value and outcome. Once more, may the Almighty bless you all days of your life.
Coming to this subject, I cannot dispute all you wrote here and generally in the series. I have always viewed "wo" as a threshold. That point where input and outcomes tilt one way or another. A line of equity as you said....or balance as you illustrated with the symbol of Lady Liberty and her scales.
"wo" is the function of DOs and DONTs. It is the rulebook of social interaction and balance in the total ecology of living and non-living.
I mentioned in one of our earlier lengthy threads that AWO is the Yoruba equivalent of LAW in English. In which case, Babalawo is Lady Liberty, overseeing the threshold of DOs and DONTs.
I will shut up here. You have done a fantsastic job highlighting this subject. I love you man!
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|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 3:45pm On Aug 17|
The fact that the Yoruba language is adaptable to scientific principles and technicalities of engineering, pure and applied sciences beat my understanding. Hence interacting with them from the cellular level is crucial.
It's not patronizing my language but trying to find out more and analyze 'yet to be identified secrets' in each terminology of interest. Each of the word of knowledge push us forward in knowledge.
Amen and amen to your prayers boss.
Inu mi dun lati ka atejade yin. I'm so delighted reading your post yesterday on the Farooq Kperogi Yoruba Larubawa names. With people like you, I believe I've not worked in vain, we're the keepers of the precious remnants of an ancient time, possibly time travellers we are.
You see, each time you drop a word, it's like a peep into the foundational oracle. In line with your thoughts, I recently stumbled on the meaning to the obsolete English word, "saw". It means "so", which is Yoruba for say.
Say was "saw" in ancient English. Now let's look at awo. The closest sound in English to this is cow. The next question is, what relationship exist here? Cow is also known as kine. In Yoruba, Awo uses Ikin to divine.
Wò, the predominant morpheme in this business is the "reading aid", but the "reading" in this sense is "seeing the invisible". The invisible is "the verbal recitation" that determine what is cast upon the opon Ifa.
The invisible are relics from many broken pieces of the law made into oral records. The babalawo as you said were the lawyers of old. Awo, cow; heifa, Ifa; Ikin, kine. From this linguistic metamorphosis comes the word "alphabet".
Alpha is "inverted cow head", beta is "house", etc. The mystery comes from the fact that "writing" won't have been originally intended for "education", but some form of oracular or temple practice that eventually survived their original use.
The priests were the "professors" who have the knowledge of this divining (reading) and were in extension the custodians of the law. Ifa is perpetuated in Yoruba language as evidence of the writing culture coming before the oral version of Ifa.
In that sense the art of divining of the Yoruba is a shift that tries to retain it's original sense in a different clime and practice in incognito. Here, idibo replace the word for making a scroll or "tying up the covered" literally.
Idibo is divining. Originally, what is it that was idi (tied) and bo (covered)? Scrolls. So, divining is consulting "idibo". Ifa is more like a figurative word equivalent to "letters" as meaning "record", like Paul said "letter killeth" or we say "man of letters", or Solomon says "much learning is wearisome to the soul".
By this token, Ifa was the book of letters that the original verses of Ifa were written. It was lost at some point where the culture could not be sustained by the emigrants to the forest, and the fathers made a replacement with the present canticles. Ifa is thus an oral scripture.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 6:41am On Sep 02|
Education, derived from Latin for training. Etymology, e~ducere: e (out) ducere (draw, to lead). Where education means "drawn out".
What is Odu in Yoruba? I don't know, but Ifa agreed with "drawn out" or as you would say, bami gbe ifami wa (fetch me the water drawer) from this we understand Ifa as "drawer".
We're far below the level of linguituc and spiritual intelligence of our progenitors, we've only achieved material advancement that comes with population growth and development foster by global peace and trade.
The content is Odu, while the context is Ifa. You may not know what an Odu says, but you know it's Ifa they were talking about when we say babalawo.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 5:46pm On Sep 16|
The wicked are wicked by nature.
Always be safety and security conscious.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 11:19am On Nov 20|
Won is cut, as you won, you cut part of a bulk to yourself. In another sense of the word, Owon is to be far away from the place or person who wants you. Therefore, o-won means "missed" or wanting in presence, that is, absence but desired in presence. This has to do with the shade of love or affection. But that's not all of it.
Lets say "I want [to buy] grains", in Yoruba. That would be "mo fe [won] yere". Won would be to "measure", but more aptly, to weigh. The moment you buy the grain, it becomes part of your body-mass "on the move". So, you "weigh" the grain. This makes "won" a shift from a mass (storage) to another mass (stock). In a technical sense of the word, won is still in sync with cut-out of substance from a source to a destination.
This scientific consistency shows that the smallest sonic atom of the Yoruba word follow a scientific sequence that cannot be broken in meaning, except its misunderstood. By implication, an error of interpretation can only happen in dealing with a given Yoruba word, but not at its conception level. this brings us to the fact that a very strong sort of knowledge and knowledgeable people invented or device the Yoruba language.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 9:03am On Nov 21|
Won, (sprinkle) is another shade of the word in our consideration. We either sprinkle salt or water on anything of our interest: "wonmi si" (sprinkle water on it); "wonyo si" (sprinkle salt on it). The very act of sprinkling is bulk-breaking. You take "a" from "A" and reduce to "a++".
That is, you take a lump or handful of a desired substance and "sprinkle", or break same into granular sizes of dispersed grains on another surface. Compare with won (weigh), won (sprinkle) is also a scalar function, a droplet-measure of substance in liquid or granular state.
won: measure, weigh.
Sprinkle is a measure that can be weighed in spite of its minuscule size. For instance, a pint of salt or a droplet of water is measurable. The Yoruba language in extension is capable of describing cellular-unit of a matter.
Kekere: ike-ikere, small of the small.
Omolekun: omo-le-kun - content of a unit cell.
Kinkinni: kin-ni-ikin-ni, least of the least: the smallest possible form or measure of a given matter.
'kin' is Yoruba for the click sound, its the mental-metric of "the least audible sound possible", such that whatever makes the sound is the last visible matter thought possible: So the word can be reduced to its morphemes: kin (pin-sound-size) ni (at) ikin (period) ni (first). This describes something hardly visible at first appearance, an object at microscopic level.
kekere; kenkele, kinkin; kinkinni.
Meanings give birth to Yoruba words, not the other way round. Therefore, words and their interpretation is the forth of Yoruba language.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by Olu317(m): 7:56pm On Nov 22|
absoluteSuccess:Great effort though seeing your zeal to always inform. But, Owonrin, is more of letting the past be for a solidifying the present and things to come.
My widow's might
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 3:38pm On Nov 23|
Thanks for the widow's mite dear brother, I really appreciate it. One man can't claim monopoly of knowledge.
As to what the philosophical connotation of Owonrin means, I can't claim to know it all and there are tens of poetry under this title in Ifa, being one of its major entries. Tradition would say Orunmila knows it all.
However, my take is 'etymology' (Itunmo oro), which is the meaning of a word that is found in the grammar of a language. This has absolute nothing to do with oral traditions as its a branch of knowledge on its own.
|Re: Owonrin: The Scientific Nature Of Yoruba Language by absoluteSuccess: 4:40pm|
Owon: Scarce. If we look deep into this word (just as we use to employ it as "dear" in letter writing), we would see the value it connotes in the covert. It seems to have derived from "breakup" part of the dearness than "affection" (ife) part of the word.
We would naturally assume that "Ore mi Owon" means "my dearest friend", but underneath, it means "my most wanted friend". Here, o-won means the "off-cut part" (of me). Now lets look at what ore itself connote: a "cut off". Re is to cut a part of an object off the whole body. Thus, a friend in ancient Yoruba psyche is an external part of a pair.
In support of this notion, lets compare a translation of the same thought I just expounded. We know Olukumi to be 'my friend' in Yoruba, but its a testament to ore mi in the sense that it means 'my remnant'. As such, Olu-ku-mi means "the remaining part of me". Ku in Yoruba is remain: se o se ku? "is there a remnant" o lu ku mi: "the remnant me".
Scarcity and Abundance
In harmony with its English counterpart, to be dear means something is not abundantly available in supply. Therefore, when a good is scarce or won- it simply means break in supply compare to its inherent even-flow before the scarcity ensued. Therefore, won is 'break in availability' or 'scarcity of supply'.
1. Owon: Break. An owon is something that breaks from its root, something that has attain a sort of independence, something in liberty. This was behind the name "Awonrin" which is the ancestral name of founding fathers of Lagos. Awonrin means "a-won-rin", shakle breakers, people at liberty. This explains the meaning of Eyo, that is "acquitted."
2. Owon: Sprinkling: When you take from a mass and cast it abroad in bits, you are breaking the lump into pieces. This must have been the root source of the word "won" as in the sense "wonmi si i" or "won yo si i". The won in this sense is to reduce handful size of liquid or crystal to its particle sizes.
3. Awon: Measuring. Lets say a net used to fish. But the net is a net because grammatically speaking, its a network of fine metrics (won) of outlets that permits in and out movement of a network of regular (iwon) sizes of an object (or matter) in their forms or states.
4. Awon: They, them. But awon as "they" means "cut out". The opposite is "Iwo", this connote "you", but also Yoruba homonym for "nest". A nest is a face in the net. a cell sort of. Therefore, its the unit form of Awon in some linguistic sense where the word and its opposite "Iwo" derive. Iwo is the content, while awon is the context.
5. Awon: Net. No, not net as fishing equipment, but total. The total is a combination of plus and minus, where the 'iwon' is the minus and 'awon' is the source of the minus and the reducing balance. Osuwon is the metric while iwonba is the balance in both ends of the divide after won-separation into two unequal parts.
6. Ewon: Prison: a measured confinement, a unit, a cell. Now looking at the prison, its either a tubu, a seclusion or ewon, fetter. But fetter is also a network of iron, a chain is an in-to-in iron rings that combines and now stretch to become a long rope.
The Yoruba language is a knowledge-based language. The Yoruba language unbundles and teaches whoever pays rapt and scientific attention to its network of meanings. Each underlying inflection is a formidable thought that reinforce the front-end meaning.
I love this language.
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