GENESIS 2:25

[NKJV]
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

[TLV]
Now both of them were naked, the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed.


Let's first share the testimony that the Lord God had finally fulfilled His Promise for the man, for God had made for the man a helper suitable for him. The Lord God be glorified for providing Woman for Man: Thank You.

It's no longer "The man being alone" anymore, but has become "The man and his wife." So the issue of loneliness passed but then another issue, that of unclothedness, became the next in line.

In the Bible verse above, both the man and his wife were naked, yet were neither ashamed nor embarrassed. And I want to bring out something mankind had that angels do not have, and also something angels had that mankind did not have in the Bible verse above.

*1* Marriage: The man had wife; but angels do not have and must not have.

*2* Shame of unclothedness or Knowledge of good and evil: The man and his wife did have either shame of unclothedness or knowledge of good and evil, and must not have them; but angels have them.

This means "Shame of unclothedness or Knowledge of good and evil" was the forbidden thing to mankind, while "Marriage or having wives" was the forbidden thing to angels. I assume you already know the story of what happened when mankind breached the law into acquiring the knowledge of good and evil, and then acquired shame of unclothedness and thereby mankind became like angels or gods in knowing good and evil. I also assume you already know the story of what happened when angels breached the law into acquiring wives of the daughters of men and bearing children or offspring through them. Or how sufferings today came by those

In the top Bible verse above, the man and his wife were yet in the "Class of Animals or Lower Carnal Creatures" and not yet in the "Class of Angels or Higher Spiritual Beings." Animals are by default made to have sexual intercourse or mate, procreate and be naked without shame of unclothedness. If any animal seems to be hiding its unclothedness, its not hiding it for shame but hiding it to prevent access: the animal is not closing up for others not to see it, but for others not to touch or access it especially when the animal is not in the mood but the other ones are in desire for it. So animals do not have shame of unclothedness even though many of them do close-up or retract (withdraw) their unclothedness when not in use.

But the man and woman were were not using their unclothedness for something productive or procreative, and yet they were not closing up or retracting (withdrawing) them: and yet they were not ashamed nor embarrassed.

At that stage, there were three steps for man to fully become as the angels. It should have been two steps if the man was not married and had no wife; for being married makes them 3 steps:

*1* Acquire Immortality or Living Forever.

*2* Acquire Knowledge of good and evil.

*3* Acquire Death to dissolve the marriage and resurrection of the dead to live forever without marriage.

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They were ignorant, and did not know shame until Eve ate the fruit that was good for gaining wisdom and her eyes opened and she found that she did not die.

But some can't detect who lied because that would require sense use which is forbidden by their Gods.

budaatum:
They were ignorant, and did not know shame until Eve ate the fruit that was good for gaining wisdom and her eyes opened and she found that she did not die.

But some can't detect who lied because that would require sense use which is forbidden by their Gods.

So who lied?

Tht were not ashamed because they were unaware and lacked knowledge, once they got knowledge and became aware, guess the first thing they did

AntiChristian:


So who lied?

Go read the book. Detecting the lie is part of personal development.

budaatum:


Go read the book. Detecting the lie is part of personal development.

The Serpent or the Devil lied. God's Word remained true. They died that day they ate the forbidden fruit.

Remember, A day by then meant a thousand years to us today. In the Garden, there was no night and no sun, but just Day. Technically, Adam and Eve were created or made in the same Day, but judging from our concept of 24hours to a day, it would have been many years apart from when Adam was formed, watched all the trees grew in the Garden, and gave names to all the living creatures or animals in the Garden before the woman was made.

Not forgetting the concept of losing the garden of Eden that same Day into a different world/ground and time calendar, where a day is 24hours. Even Scientists know that different planets have different measurements for day or year to them.

PCHC:

The Serpent or the Devil lied. God's Word remained true. They died that day they ate the forbidden fruit.

The Adam that lived a total of 930 years, and then he died, "died that day they ate the forbidden fruit" when he was just about 130?

PCHC:
Remember, A day by then meant a thousand years to us today.

In order to "remember" I would first need to have convinced myself that a day meant a thousand years, and also believe that Adam would not have eventually died, both of which are impossible for my brain to convince my mind of.

PCHC:
In the Garden, there was no night and no sun, but just Day.

Now you are just making stuff up! Night and sun were created way back in Genesis 1 where superior human beings were created in God's image, and long before the enslaved Adam and Eve were created from inferior mud.

budaatum:

The Adam that lived a total of 930 years, and then he died, "died that day they ate the forbidden fruit" when he was just about 130?

Read "Psalms 90:4" and "2 Peter 3:8:" — A Day to God is like a thousand years to men. It may take a man 38 years to travel to the Sun from the earth that is light-years apart, but for angels or spiritual beings it takes just few seconds or minutes like flashes of lightning. A nano second (less than a second) to the higher beings could be equivalent to days or months to mortal beings.

Adam lived 930 years, less than 1000 years or millennium, which is equivalent to less than one Day to God. Adam died that day meant he did not complete the millennium or a 1000 years and also meant he was sent to the ground to return to the dust. He began to die that day because he began to hunger, sweat, his body became altered, cells in his body began to die while others sprung up. Basically, the biological processes and features described as "MR NIGER D" for acronym began working on Adam, which was not so with Adam before they ate the forbidden fruit.

budaatum:



Now you are just making stuff up! Night and sun were created way back in Genesis 1 where superior human beings were created in God's image, and long before the enslaved Adam and Eve were created from inferior mud.

Sun was created in the fourth day indeed, plants in the 3rd day and land animals in the 6th days together with mankind, according to Genesis 1 account. But in Genesis 2, There was no plant on earth, no animal, and first to emerge on earth was Adam before plants or Garden of Eden. What you saw in Genesis 1 was about how they were created, but in Genesis 2 is how they emerged physically on earth.

So in Genesis 1, Man was like the last born; but in Genesis 2 Man was the first born on earth. This was about emergence.

Even so, the concept of time, day and night, sunrise and sunset, which meant 24 hours (12 hours day and 12 hours night) was not yet operational over Adam inside the Garden until Adam was driven out of the Garden into the ground. Then Adam experienced his first night, first sun or sunrise, first sweating, first thirsting, first hunger, first defecation, first...etc.

It's like when men go into heaven where God dwells, and there is no night, no sun, no tears, no sweat, no hunger as we know it, no thirsting there etc. The Garden of Eden was basically paradise or heaven to Adam and Eve.

The Lord Jesus Christ told His Neighbor on the cross, "Today you will be with Me in Paradise;" and that day Jesus Christ died and that neighbor did not seem to have gone to paradise. Was that a lie to you also?

A day is like a thousand years to men.

PCHC:

Read "Psalms 90:4" and "2 Peter 3:8:" — A Day to God is like a thousand years to men. It may take a man 38 years to travel to the Sun from the earth that is light-years apart, but for angels or spiritual beings it takes just few seconds or minutes like flashes of lightning. A nano second (less than a second) to the higher beings could be equivalent to days or months to mortal beings.

"A day to God might be a thousand years" to God, but I'm very certain God knew it was talking to a man called Adam. Regardless, I am not "angels or spiritual beings" and am only human to whom a day is a 24 hours and a year is 365 days give or take, and I have no reason to think you are a "angels or spiritual beings" neither, so welcome to planet human reality.

PCHC:
Adam died that day meant he did not complete the millennium or a 1000 years .....

So, God did not know that die means to stop existing at the moment of death?

PCHC:
He began to die that day because he began to hunger, sweat, his body became altered, cells in his body began to die while others sprung up.

"He began to die that day", lol, when the text clearly shows he went on to live like 800 more years during which he gave birth to Cain and Abel and Seth, and some believe populated the earth. Or does what Adam went on to do sound like "began to die that day" to you?

PCHC:
Basically, the biological processes and features described as "MR NIGER D" for acronym began working on Adam, which was not so with Adam before they ate the forbidden fruit.

I wonders what made Adam so not ignorantly unaware of MR NIGER D which was clearly stated long before naked ignorant Adam was created.

"I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food."

PCHC:
What you saw in Genesis 1 was about how they were created, but in Genesis 2 is how they emerged physically on earth.

Sounds like God the Nigeria politician, who says "let there be light" and we all yell "Nepa".

When God said, “Let there be light” there was light, as in the light was created and therefore existed, and "God saw that the light was good", and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day". Same on the other 6 days - created, was, saw, good - so this your own "emerged" is very new to me.

budaatum:

The Adam that lived a total of 930 years, and then he died, "died that day they ate the forbidden fruit" when he was just about 130?

No, Adam was not 930 years, rather Adam was "0" years, he and Eve, when they ate the fruit and was driven out. It was just a day inside the Garden. Night had not began, and so the years or time spent by Adam had not began counting. So when there was no night, no sun, no timing or aging inside the Garden, it was technically the same day, all the creatures mentioned in "Genesis 2" were created or named in the Garden of Eden, which was basically paradise or heaven on earth then.

The years or aging/dying of Adam began from the moment he and Eve were driven out of the Garden, and God placed Cherub and flaming sword to keep the Garden. Then Adam began to age, and began to experience the Sun, Night, times etc. Then it was 130 years later from the time he lost the Garden that Adam begat Seth, who replaced Adam. 130 years was not when he came of the Garden, but when he's son, Seth, came out of him. Then he lived 800 years after he begot Seth, and then fully returned to dust at the age of 930 years after.

Correct yourself

budaatum:

"A day to God might be a thousand years" to God, but I'm very certain God knew it was talking to a man called Adam. Regardless, I am not "angels or spiritual beings" and am only human to whom a day is a 24 hours and a year is 365 days give or take, and I have no reason to think you are a "angels or spiritual beings" neither, so welcome to planet human reality.


So, God did not know that die means to stop existing at the moment of death?


"He began to die that day", lol, when the text clearly shows he went on to live like 800 more years during which he gave birth to Cain and Abel and Seth, and some believe populated the earth. Or does what Adam went on to do sound like "began to die that day" to you?



I wonders what made Adam so not ignorantly unaware of MR NIGER D which was clearly stated long before naked ignorant Adam was created.

"I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food."

Sir, you reason this way probably because you have no understanding of what being inside heaven in the realms of God and Angels means. There in heaven, you don't use earthly parameters to measure either the Times, Seasons or Body Processes, as they are in heaven. Even a man inside heaven understands the Calender or Time language used there. Listen to this simplified 10 points:

*1* Adam in the Garden of Eden means Adam was inside Heaven, which was from Earth. Inside the Garden of Eden, Heaven and Earth were one. Outside the Garden, was this world as we know it. Thus, two different worlds or realms but on one earth.

*2* Those in heaven do not hunger for food or thirst for water. And yet they eat and drink. Even though they eat, they do not excreate or defecate or urinate, like the earthly mortals do.

*3* Everything you understand or read from "Genesis 1" are true according to invisible realities or when God created or made them. But how they were generated or emerged on earth is what you read in "Genesis 2."

How they emerged is about how they were needed or invoked into physical realities. Every thing you saw in Genesis 2 had a need for it first before God formed it into physical reality. Demand before supply.

So while all things were created or completed in the first six days, their emergence physically on earth is the stories in Genesis 2 from verse 4. Even till today, there are still many things God created in Genesis 1 that are yet to emerge or be discovered by Scientists, People or unveiled. There's so much in existence that are not in visibility nor yet materialized.

PCHC:


Sir, you reason this way probably because you have no understanding of what being inside heaven in the realms of God and Angels means.

Actually, I reason like this because I can read and understand what I read, and don't go about creating crap in my head and believing it.

God created humans mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. And God od blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so. God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

It was only after God had rested on the seventh day that God took dust and breathed into it to create the slave Adam who was put in the garden and commanded to slave in it and not eat the fruit that would enabled him to do what Genesis 1 humans created in Gods image could.

The lesson is that humans choose to either believe they are powerful fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground Genesis 1 humans, or Genesis 2 ignorant naked stupid slaves.

budaatum:


Actually, I reason like this because I can read and understand what I read, and don't go about creating crap in my head and believing it.

It was only after God had rested on the seventh day that God took dust and breathed into it to create the slave Adam who was put in the garden and commanded to slave in it and not eat the fruit that would enabled him to do what Genesis 1 humans created in Gods image could.

The lesson is that humans choose to either believe they are powerful fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground Genesis 1 humans, or Genesis 2 ignorant naked stupid slaves.

You obviously did not understand what you read, even in the "Genesis 1" or you wouldn't have said "The humans in Genesis 1 are different from the humans in Genesis 2."

Do not read the scriptures like a novel or newspaper. Those who blaspheme or mock the realities of God and revelations of the Scriptures are usually those who think the Bible or scriptures are like academic books.