The main point the coup plotters in Niger keep hammering, is how they are fighting in the interest of the people,

Now if they are working in the interest of the people, why couldn't they just form a party and run for election? The people would obviously choose the best decision for them

Some might say the election might be rigged but the coup wasn't conducted by fringe political elements, many of them were top soldiers and very influential people hence they could have easily prevented any form of rigging or malpractice.

So is it truly in the interest of the people are coups that overthrow democracies ever in the interest of the people?

They’re not complaining

Taylor90:
They’re not complaining

The Opposition in Niger, like the Obidients in Nigeria are not complaining.

danvon:
The main point the coup plotters in Niger keep hammering, is how they are fighting in the interest of the people,

Now if they are working in the interest of the people, why couldn't they just form a party and run for election? The people would obviously choose the best decision for them

Some might say the election might be rigged but the coup wasn't conducted by fringe political elements, many of them were top soldiers and very influential people hence they could have easily prevented any form of rigging or malpractice.

So is it truly in the interest of the people are coups that overthrow democracies ever in the interest of the people?

No election was rigged, President Bazoum is from a minority tribe, the mistake he made was not removing this old criminals when he became president, like Tinubu did in Nigeria.

The chief coup plotter is the head of his national guard, in other terms his chief gateman who has been in charge of security for 10 years.

The criminals say that it is insecurity that lead them to the coup, yet it is the same military that are the ones task with the security.

The problem I have with coups in Africa is, at the end, the coup plotters become the new corrupt elite.

Happened in Nigeria so many times. So many freaking times, that it gets funny. And in many African countries.

Like Eyadema of Togo. When he got rid of corrupt old Olympio, it was viewed as the coming of the new wave. Only for the guy to become as corrupt as the old government..

But coups are popular because , corruption. See, corruption happens in the US, Bad government too. But the reason why the US is better is because people took time out to fight for their rights. But fighting for one rights is hard and tedious work....and most Africans do not want to do that hard and tedious work. Best to allow some soldiers organise a coup and let the soldiers do it for you....

Anyway, make we live Niger alone. In ten years they would be banging on the cage to be let out. But no one would be there to say 'We warned you'. Maybe they would wake up eventually.

nairalanda1:
The problem I have with coups in Africa is, at the end, the coup plotters become the new corrupt elite.

True, you will hardly find a tyrant who admits taking power for his own selfish interest they always find a way to make it seem like it was for the common good, only when they have successfully consolidated power will their true nature be revealed.

danvon:


True, you will hardly find a tyrant who admits taking power for his own selfish interest they always find a way to make it seem like it was for the common good, only when they have successfully consolidated power will their true nature be revealed.

I guess some come in with idealism, but in a few years....corruption sets in.

nairalanda1:
The problem I have with coups in Africa is, at the end, the coup plotters become the new corrupt elite.

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Do you think that democracy is a cure for corruption?
In Africa, all democratically elected authorities were honest, nice and not at all corrupt?
stop putting cat ears to an elephant's ass.
Moreover, the level of corruption in cute Western democracies and cute Western monarchies - in the USA, in England, and so on - is much higher than in your fucking Africa

Many people living in Africa suffer from the neurosis of "I am second class; I am the worst on planet Earth, I have the wrong skin color, and white gentlemen told my ancestors a long time ago that they are shit and their children will be shit; therefore, I know for sure that I am shit and that I am not like that, like everyone else." the worst and second-class, unless the white gentleman praises me."

A very famous effect is "I am second class, but my master are so magically beautiful, they are gods! I want to get as close to them as possible!'

As a result, we get.. absolutely disgusting creature... a cannibal, a homicidal maniac at the exit turns out.

"everyone my white master looked askance at - they must be destroyed, even if they are my children, my wife and all my other relatives"

Jane74:


Do you think democracy is a cure for corruption?
In Africa, all democratically elected authorities, all were honest and sweet and not at all corrupt?
stop putting cat ears to the elephant's ass.
Moreover, the level of corruption in sweet Western democracies and sweet Western monarchies - in the USA, in England and so on - is much higher than in your fucking Africa

I lived under Army rule. The same corruption and nepotisim we saw under civillan rule, was seen under army rule.

Yes, corruption exisits in the West, But it is not awful as it is over here because people learned long ago to take the bull by the storm.

Here, we want nannies to do our job for us.

Good evening.

nairalanda1:


I lived under Army rule. The same corruption and nepotisim we saw under civillan rule, was seen under army rule.

Yes, corruption exisits in the West, But it is not awful as it is over here because people learned long ago to take the bull by the storm.

Here, we want nannies to do our job for us.

Good evening.

>Yes, corruption exisits in the West, But it is not awful

you're a slowpoke if you buy into this.

Jane74:


>Yes, corruption exisits in the West, But it is not awful

you're a slowpoke if you buy into this.

And the abuse begins.

Good evening. Have a great day

nairalanda1:


And the abuse begins.

Good evening. Have a great day

Was slowpoke offended? how gentle he is!

Jane74:


Do you think that democracy is a cure for corruption?
In Africa, all democratically elected authorities were honest, nice and not at all corrupt?

You fail to understand human nature, and truth is power changes people, in a democracy there some levels of checks and balances that prevents a leader from abusing power, in a dictatorship there are zero.

I think most corrupt democracies are usually preceded by a dictatorship

Jane74:


Was slowpoke offended? how gentle he is!

Thanks for telling me that , you slowpoke.

You are a slowpoke, aren't you?

( you said it wasn't offensive)

danvon:


You fail to understand human nature, and truth is power changes people, in a democracy there some levels of checks and balances that prevents a leader from abusing power, in a dictatorship there are zero.

I think most corrupt democracies are usually preceded by a dictatorship

Of course, I don't understand anything about human nature!
I do not understand at all that democracy is written right in a person's genes and that one should pray for democracy, since the White Gods - the Americans - ordered the Africans it to be done.

the system of checks and balances has absolutely nothing to do with democracy.
In the USA, for example, there is no democracy in the USA, as in African countries, but there is a system of checks and balances.

In many European countries - there is no democracy, there is a monarchy at all; and there is a system of checks and balances

Or has no one told you, a great connoisseur of human nature, that in Europe 12 countries are secular monarchies (not democratic republics), and 1 country is a theocratic absolute monarchy?