Mummyfour:
it was actually a master's scholarship in a school in California

Okay.
I suspect there are other reasons they denied him.

Getting a scholarship doesn't guarantee automatic entry visa to the US. The scholarship could have been to cover for the tuition, which means he doesn't have any access to $60,000, but the Uni fees wich may worth 60k will be waived for him in a form of scholarship. Other parts of visa documentations are his responsibility. He might complain he got a scholarship of 60k and was denied visa, but did he meet other US requirements?
Any falsified document etc.?

MASTERMIND04:

The question is, what will the person be doing in Switzerland while waiting to get the requirements to enter US? It is not easy to get jobs in Switzerland like it is in the US that's why everybody wants to just rugged and enter US.

I believe it would easier traveling to Switzerland to than going to straight

gfon:
boss what about someone whose having a US citizen come marry him here in Nigeria, how easy is it to go back to US after the marriage?

Aiit... let me work you tru some info's... so u hav a US citizen and you want them to come to Nigeria and get married to you.. ..

Now it's simple... Tell dem to come to Nigeria.. and talk about your plans... if possible.. tell the citizen to visit an immigration lawyer before she arrives in Nigeria...

When the US citizen arrives.. get married at a legal court in Nigeria... she will return back to the US to file for you... this process may take up to 1 nd half year or shorter... the Application will be processed in the US and will be approved in the US.. but u will still be required to attend an interview when you set to move to the states..

Mummyfour:
21st if August, I was at the American embassy for a visa appointment.

From the period spanning 3 hours I was there, nobody left the interview room with a smile or laughter. Almost every one there was rejected.

The funniest thing about the rejection was the verdict on the light blue paper given to the intending travellers which read" you have not demonstrated that you have enough ties to bring you back to Nigeria "

In a layman's terms, it means we are suspecting that you want to japa into the US.

The most painful aspect was a lot of undergraduates that were turned down. A guy that had a $60,000 worth of scholarship was bounced too.

I saw someone who was just going on a study leave from a whole Deloitte where he works in presently in Nigeria being bounced too.
Most of the interviewers didn't even check out relevant documents of the applicants, but just drew their conclusion based on face value.

I was discussing with people and they said inasmuch as the reason for that verdict was baseless and stupid, we Nigerians are viewed as the worst of the worst world citizens to allow access into the US, irrespective of one's qualifications.
We have a government, system and people that are fantastically corrupt.
We have people who engage in and support illegalities.

Our judiciary is biased and is for the highest bidders, and our political system and elections are flawed (none is perfect anywhere in the world) but ours is glaring and very embarrassing.

Our leaders are not patriotic and that is why when we as citizens have our rights trampled on locally or internationally, nothing is done about it.
Nigeria is not regarded as anything again.
In other words, we are just seen as nothing but irritating pollutants.

So for those of you that applaud evil in this land, pray you remain forever in Nigeria because even if it is just to go and visit and come back, they will not allow you.
If you even have a scholarship or any good thing that can take you out of this country, you will be frustrated at the embassy.

And for those of you that left already and are destroying the name of Nigeria, God's punishment awaits you.
And for those that are still making us proud in the US and elsewhere, may God continue to bless your efforts

I rest my case.
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Go elsewhere, must you go to US/Canada. There are many non English speaking Europe countries that will grant your visa ASAP. Nigerians are just stereotype

Please what are the steps to take a brother is planing to travel out on study package?

phemmyfour:
Go elsewhere, must you go to US/Canada. There are many non English speaking Europe countries that will grant your visa ASAP. Nigerians are just stereotype

we all know this.
But if someone wants to go to a particular country, don't you think he would have taken a lot of things into consideration?.

Would you suggest I go to Haiti to study artificial intelligence and Robotics if that is what I intend to study knowing fully well that I can't get it there?

Thanks for the advice, but whoever is insisting on going to a particular country should know the reasons why.

Mummyfour:
we all know this.
But if someone wants to go to a particular country, don't you think he would have taken a lot of things into consideration?.

Would you suggest I go to Haiti to study artificial intelligence and Robotics if that is what I intend to study knowing fully well that I can't get it there?

Thanks for the advice, but whoever is insisting on going to a particular country should know the reasons why.

You can get these courses done in Eastern European like Ukraine, sweden, Bulgaria, Russia etc even at a cheaper rate

Cmanforall:

Okay.
I suspect there are other reasons they denied him.

Getting a scholarship doesn't guarantee automatic entry visa to the US. The scholarship could have been to cover for the tuition, which means he doesn't have any access to $60,000, but the Uni fees wich may worth 60k will be waived for him in a form of scholarship. Other parts of visa documentations are his responsibility. He might complain he got a scholarship of 60k and was denied visa, but did he meet other US requirements?
Any falsified document etc.?

you know the annoying thing was that he was not even asked to provide accompanying documents.
It was just his admission letter, DS 160 form and just international passport and nothing else.

That was the same fate almost every one had.
No careful perusal or scrutiny of documents, just rejection at face value

Have you thought of this: When they start refunding applicants who were denied visa, that's when their pompous, wicked visa rejections will dwindle to a tickle. That's the Koko. They can just take your money and tell you to go home and rest. What else do you expect from a prideful country like America. You see Biden strutting around and promising Zelensky eternal support of money and hardware; it's this kind of money they mine for free in countries like Nigeria that gives them such backbone. When you do the math of how much the US embassy makes off of Nigeria each month, you'll weep even more for our country. They got so bold and belittling that Nigerian applicants have to pay to send an email to the US embassy. Can you believe that? You pay to email the US embassy, ff sake. I swear to God, if I was the country's leader, there's no way in hell the US embassy will keep the money of applicants who were denied visa. I don't care if it's the same everywhere else. Nigeria is a special case. They single us out, so we should single them out too. This has been on mind a long time.

phemmyfour:
You can get these courses done in Eastern European like Ukraine, sweden, Bulgaria, Russia etc even at a cheaper rate

And what happens to language barrier and other factors like school aids and internship or even other opportunities?

See eh! Most people do their researches very well before applying for schools abroad and not just because they want to join the band wagon.
And that is why you see them reapplying again and again until they get it.

😁😁😁😁. Abeg leave me o. My belle dey pain me.

madone:
the matter is critical. One day the table will turn.
You also forgot to add those of you that travel stay just one month in America the next day you are shouting I wanna wanna on the streets of America disturbing the innocent citizens una hand dey too.

Mummyfour:
And what happens to language barrier and other factors like school aids and internship or even other opportunities?

See eh! Most people do their researches very well before applying for schools abroad and not just because they want to join the band wagon.
And that is why you see them reapplying again and again until they get it.

They are obsessed with English speaking countries like US, UK, Australia and Canada. However, there are some Universities in non English speaking countries that have some of their courses taught in English. For instance ISU in France courses and English taught

phemmyfour:
They are obsessed with English speaking countries like US, UK, Australia and Canada. However, there are some Universities in non English speaking countries that have some of their courses taught in English. For instance ISU in France courses and English taught

okay..

Nigeria is high risk but China and India are worse. Indians will abuse their visas, use illegal route from Canada to US and do same through Mexico but majority of skilled visas to US is been scoped up by Indians. Majority of visas been refused bring nothing to the table and the embassy just to toying with them. First time traveling has almost no chance and majority of people being refused are first time travellers. Every countries in the world abuse visas and that does not stop other citizens being issued visas. I know Canadians who had overstayed their welcome in US and vice versa for US citizens in Canada.

MT:


Blame those who were given Visitor's visa and Student's visa and abused them. Nigerians are profiled as one of the high risk Nation that will abuse visa.

Let the truth be told, over 90% of the people that were bounced would abuse their visas. The Consular Officers have seen it all. Sadly some few individuals with genuine intention will be bounced too but majority that are bounced are deserving of it.

You must give them a genuine reason why your case is different. US embassy care less about your document. Your body language and what you say will determine it. You cannot fill in your application form that you are going for tourism and you pick Indiannapolis. You have shot yourself in the leg before you utter a single word.

Stop heaping blames on the Government alone, the citizen's behaviours play key roles too.

You're funny. You think $100 visa application fee is what the embassy needs to survive? Absolutely not but visa application is optional and you're not force to apply for visa in any embassy. Do you know Canada refuse some Americans entry to their country? Do you know America deport British citizens, even Canadians to Canada?
Each embassy job is to protect their home country national interest and not to do the bidding of the country they are in.

ibinaboonline:
Have you thought of this: When they start refunding applicants who were denied visa, that's when their pompous, wicked visa rejections will dwindle to a tickle. That's the Koko. They can just take your money and tell you to go home and rest. What else do you expect from a prideful country like America. You see Biden strutting around and promising Zelensky eternal support of money and hardware; it's this kind of money they mine for free in countries like Nigeria that gives them such backbone. When you do the math of how much the US embassy makes off of Nigeria each month, you'll weep even more for our country. They got so bold and belittling that Nigerian applicants have to pay to send an email to the US embassy. Can you believe that? You pay to email the US embassy, ff sake. I swear to God, if I was the country's leader, there's no way in hell the US embassy will keep the money of applicants who were denied visa. I don't care if it's the same everywhere else. Nigeria is a special case. They single us out, so we should single them out too. This has been on mind a long time.

Paracetamol01:
Why not follow through other foreign countries and made it a plan..... like going to Switzerland,then after some years you can now move to your dream land... AMERICA

How to swiss?

Nawaoooo....... So American visa is still hard to access even after the Covid-19 saga. Pls who knows how much it costs to get the visa?

MT:
You must give them a genuine reason why your case is different. US embassy care less about your document. Your body language and what you say will determine it. You cannot fill in your application form that you are going for tourism and you pick Indiannapolis. You have shot yourself in the leg before you utter a single word.

^^^


What's wrong with Indianapolis?

Going by what you just said, I can't help but wonder how many Britons and Canadians are denied entry to the US each day based solely on the fact that the Americans think they're likely to stay instead of go back. I can't help but wonder. How many na? And those countries you mentioned, how many of them forfeit their application fees after they're denied visa? You really shouldn't have belittled $100. You just have to find out how many Nigerians apply each month and then do the math. That's what you need to do and then you'll understand.
I get it, though. It's their country. In fact, I've always thought it was bollocks watching migrants come to the States and start talking like and acting all entitled. I get it. My position though is that I wouldn't lead this country and allow them to keep the complete visa fees of those who got denied. I won't stand for it.

xandy84:
You're funny. You think $100 visa application fee is what the embassy needs to survive? Absolutely not but visa application is optional and you're not force to apply for visa in any embassy. Do you know Canada refuse some Americans entry to their country? Do you know America deport British citizens, even Canadians to Canada?
Each embassy job is to protect their home country national interest and not to do the bidding of the country they are in.

Mummyfour:
21st if August, I was at the American embassy for a visa appointment.

From the period spanning 3 hours I was there, nobody left the interview room with a smile or laughter. Almost every one there was rejected.

The funniest thing about the rejection was the verdict on the light blue paper given to the intending travellers which read" you have not demonstrated that you have enough ties to bring you back to Nigeria "

In a layman's terms, it means we are suspecting that you want to japa into the US.

The most painful aspect was a lot of undergraduates that were turned down. A guy that had a $60,000 worth of scholarship was bounced too.

I saw someone who was just going on a study leave from a whole Deloitte where he works in presently in Nigeria being bounced too.
Most of the interviewers didn't even check out relevant documents of the applicants, but just drew their conclusion based on face value.

I was discussing with people and they said inasmuch as the reason for that verdict was baseless and stupid, we Nigerians are viewed as the worst of the worst world citizens to allow access into the US, irrespective of one's qualifications.
We have a government, system and people that are fantastically corrupt.
We have people who engage in and support illegalities.

Our judiciary is biased and is for the highest bidders, and our political system and elections are flawed (none is perfect anywhere in the world) but ours is glaring and very embarrassing.

Our leaders are not patriotic and that is why when we as citizens have our rights trampled on locally or internationally, nothing is done about it.
Nigeria is not regarded as anything again.
In other words, we are just seen as nothing but irritating pollutants.

So for those of you that applaud evil in this land, pray you remain forever in Nigeria because even if it is just to go and visit and come back, they will not allow you.
If you even have a scholarship or any good thing that can take you out of this country, you will be frustrated at the embassy.

And for those of you that left already and are destroying the name of Nigeria, God's punishment awaits you.
And for those that are still making us proud in the US and elsewhere, may God continue to bless your efforts

I rest my case.
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Fact is...

Most of the applicants want to Japa. They know this

Forget all those scholarship talk, it means nothing. Person may hold a scholarship for 60k dolls for a program of 120k dolls. ... How e wan work?

It is easier for PG students than UG too


Like say bar dey and you have already paid upfront dem no born thier papa...

Or if better bar or person de invite you.

tensazangetsu20:
One of my close buddies got his us visa on the first try with fake bank documents. Really lucky dude.

Dem no dey check documents.. especially statements of acct.
This people just apply psychology..
If ur young n single... na automatic ineligibility.

IjebuWarrior:
OK then... na the foolish Nigerians wey dey vote these useless, Bastard Politicians dey cause all dis nonsense

^^^

descarado:

South korea?
Make I laugh

^^^

What's amusing about South Korea?

YourBestWriter:
Sometimes i wonder why humans have to go through such difficult processes just to travel. I sometimes envy the birds that fly freely at will.

^^^
The birds have their own problems too...

yemmit90:
When they tell some people to stop damaging Nigeria names and their leaders integrity on Internet, they thought you are only doing that for political reason.

^^^
You may have a point about going easy on the country. But her leaders? No. Call them what they are!

yemmit90:
It is OK to condemn government or call out corrupt leaders through constructive statements or vote them out but everything is bad or not proper if you call your country or leaders all sort of derogative names for the whole world to see on Internet.

^^^


Take a stand.

If leaders are failing to lead, they should be criticized. Harshly. Where Nigerians are failing miserably is in actually doing something to change these leaders at the ballot box. On that we can agree.

Nigerians haven't called out their leaders enough. They need to do more! Call a spade a spade. Be it on the internet or in the real world - call a spade a spade!

yemmit90:
These people relies mostly on online forums and social medias to get their information about your country, yet some people has made this their duty to keep damaging the integrity of the country they called home thinking they are doing already rich politicians.

^^^


Ok...things are beginning to sound like something from NTA or Voice of Nigeria. "These people" are on social media, yes. But 'they' are very much in the real world in Nigeria too. Some of your leaders are on 'their' payroll. 'They' wheel and deal at the highest levels - and they don't need social media to get the info that is sent back to their home countries on secure channels.

A country is different from its leaders.

yemmit90:
People should only call attention of government to what we think they should do rather than criticising them irrationally or keep damaging the name of their country.

^^^
You keep conflating country and leadership. They are not the same thing.

yemmit90:
You can't slap your father in the present of your friends and expect the same friends to respect you and your father or allow you to come close to theirs.

^^^



Terrible, terrible analogy. Highly misleading to say the least.

Your leaders are not your father. They hold office in trust for you. Nothing more. And when did (deserved) criticism of politicians become synonymous with domestic violence? Where is the equivalence?

Mummyfour:
21st if August, I was at the American embassy for a visa appointment.

From the period spanning 3 hours I was there, nobody left the interview room with a smile or laughter. Almost every one there was rejected.

The funniest thing about the rejection was the verdict on the light blue paper given to the intending travellers which read" you have not demonstrated that you have enough ties to bring you back to Nigeria "

In a layman's terms, it means we are suspecting that you want to japa into the US.

The most painful aspect was a lot of undergraduates that were turned down. A guy that had a $60,000 worth of scholarship was bounced too.

I saw someone who was just going on a study leave from a whole Deloitte where he works in presently in Nigeria being bounced too.
Most of the interviewers didn't even check out relevant documents of the applicants, but just drew their conclusion based on face value.

I was discussing with people and they said inasmuch as the reason for that verdict was baseless and stupid, we Nigerians are viewed as the worst of the worst world citizens to allow access into the US, irrespective of one's qualifications.
We have a government, system and people that are fantastically corrupt.
We have people who engage in and support illegalities.

Our judiciary is biased and is for the highest bidders, and our political system and elections are flawed (none is perfect anywhere in the world) but ours is glaring and very embarrassing.

Our leaders are not patriotic and that is why when we as citizens have our rights trampled on locally or internationally, nothing is done about it.
Nigeria is not regarded as anything again.
In other words, we are just seen as nothing but irritating pollutants.

So for those of you that applaud evil in this land, pray you remain forever in Nigeria because even if it is just to go and visit and come back, they will not allow you.
If you even have a scholarship or any good thing that can take you out of this country, you will be frustrated at the embassy.

And for those of you that left already and are destroying the name of Nigeria, God's punishment awaits you.
And for those that are still making us proud in the US and elsewhere, may God continue to bless your efforts

I rest my case.
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All these people [developed countries] are just making milking monies from Nigerians.

DO THEY DENY OUR POLITICIANS, POLITICAL APPOINTEES, SENIOR CIVIL SERVANTS Visas These ones go in with huge public funds to grow their economies.

THEY ARE PART AND PARCEL OF THE ROT & CORRUPTION IN NIGERIA/AFRICA AS COLLABORATORS.

I agreed with you. In early 2000, Russian embassy will not collect visa fee until they want to issue you visa. I am not sure if the same policy still in place. I think visa fee should be separated from processing fee and when visa is denied, embassy should keep the processing fee while returning the visa fee to the applicant.
Nigerians makes excuses for visa denial. Zac Brown band was denial entry to Canada to go perform on a show and life goes on. Anyone can be denial entry to another country. Nigerian visa refusal is not unique. It's the basic of supply and demand. When there is increase in visa applicants, there will be correspondent increase in rejection. We need to fix our country that make traveling out to do jobs you would not even dream of doing back home discouraging.
We can debate what could, should, would but the embassy only have interest of their country at heart and it's time for Nigerians and our government start to build the country for real

ibinaboonline:
Going by what you just said, I can't help but wonder how many Britons and Canadians are denied entry to the US each day based solely on the fact that the Americans think they're likely to stay instead of go back. I can't help but wonder. How many na? And those countries you mentioned, how many of them forfeit their application fees after they're denied visa? You really shouldn't have belittled $100. You just have to find out how many Nigerians apply each month and then do the math. That's what you need to do and then you'll understand.
I get it, though. It's their country. In fact, I've always thought it was bollocks watching migrants come to the States and start talking like and acting all entitled. I get it. My position though is that I wouldn't lead this country and allow them to keep the complete visa fees of those who got denied. I won't stand for it.

This is why I always said that wickedness is like destroying your tomorrow for the greed of today.

All the Yahoo boys, yahoo pastors, polithiefcians, bad governance, corruption, nepotism, tribalism, and so forth, will bite Nigerians for sure. We can't escape it. It's the nature of life.

Nigeria effectively is a landlocked country. Minus ecowas, there is no place Nigerians can visit. The ecowas sef is based on luck, when Nigeria was still good. Our ecowas neighbors, many don't like us.

A tiny country like Finland for example, has at least seven international airports serving it, with a population of just 5M people. Nigeria has over 210 million, and just two major international airports (Abuja and Lagos).

And the two don't have much airline traffic compared to let's say, Accra. More airline flies to Accra than Lagos. A so-called giant of Africa with such a sad tale.

Why will america not be hard and harsh on naija peeps. We only come.online to rant about our bad leaders while we the led are all shades of corruption and stupidity.

Theres practically no home where prepaid.meyer is not being bypassed. We outsmart every policies/schemes/laws that warrant us as a citizen to be responsible to the country. Even the abroad, we constitute nuisance. We call the ambulance for no reasons. We toy with their emergency responder"s sensibilities and do drugs/scams. Yet the blame is always on the government.

Mummyfour:
21st if August, I was at the American embassy for a visa appointment.

From the period spanning 3 hours I was there, nobody left the interview room with a smile or laughter. Almost every one there was rejected.

The funniest thing about the rejection was the verdict on the light blue paper given to the intending travellers which read" you have not demonstrated that you have enough ties to bring you back to Nigeria "

In a layman's terms, it means we are suspecting that you want to japa into the US.

The most painful aspect was a lot of undergraduates that were turned down. A guy that had a $60,000 worth of scholarship was bounced too.

I saw someone who was just going on a study leave from a whole Deloitte where he works in presently in Nigeria being bounced too.
Most of the interviewers didn't even check out relevant documents of the applicants, but just drew their conclusion based on face value.

I was discussing with people and they said inasmuch as the reason for that verdict was baseless and stupid, we Nigerians are viewed as the worst of the worst world citizens to allow access into the US, irrespective of one's qualifications.
We have a government, system and people that are fantastically corrupt.
We have people who engage in and support illegalities.

Our judiciary is biased and is for the highest bidders, and our political system and elections are flawed (none is perfect anywhere in the world) but ours is glaring and very embarrassing.

Our leaders are not patriotic and that is why when we as citizens have our rights trampled on locally or internationally, nothing is done about it.
Nigeria is not regarded as anything again.
In other words, we are just seen as nothing but irritating pollutants.

So for those of you that applaud evil in this land, pray you remain forever in Nigeria because even if it is just to go and visit and come back, they will not allow you.
If you even have a scholarship or any good thing that can take you out of this country, you will be frustrated at the embassy.

And for those of you that left already and are destroying the name of Nigeria, God's punishment awaits you.
And for those that are still making us proud in the US and elsewhere, may God continue to bless your efforts

I rest my case.
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So you mean Nigerians no longer travel to the US

That's true

💯 💯

coputa:
So you mean Nigerians no longer travel to the US

Did you bother reading the post very well.
Did I indicate anywhere that Nigerians don't travel to the US.
I only said people are facing more rejections more than before.
You can confirm from anyone that hangs around embassies or are into visa runs