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Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Darren95: 9:29am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Please what does “Oduduwa” means in Yoruba? |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by TemplarLandry: 9:30am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Odùduwà = odù tó du ìwà. (The power that brings forth existence) Odù : The power (the mystery) Tó : which (that) Du : births (brings forth) ìwà : existence (life) 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by koiki4bat: 9:31am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Its a Bini word but many won't agree 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by iammo(m): 9:38am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Odu means God, supreme being DU wa , the God who seeked us Human |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by waynetee(m): 9:39am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Odu tobi iwa. The odu( odu ifa) that bring about Life/way of life 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Putinofrussia: 9:39am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Please,what is the meaning of Igbo in Igbo language,Hausa in Hausa language and America in US of America's language? 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Putinofrussia: 9:41am On Sep 06, 2023 |
koiki4bat:Do you mean that Binis are also Yoruba? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by koiki4bat: 9:42am On Sep 06, 2023 |
No, I think they are cousins instead. I mean they share a common ancestor but different ethnicity (like Ishmael and Abraham or Arabs and Jews) but they will just keep arguing instead of reading their history correctly Putinofrussia: |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Kingosytex(m): 9:43am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Wikipedia says that Oduduwa was a Yoruba divine king, legendary founder of the Ife Empire, and a creator deity. |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by gidgiddy: 9:43am On Sep 06, 2023 |
You will laugh when you hear what it means in Igbo |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by iammo(m): 9:44am On Sep 06, 2023 |
koiki4bat: We are not Cousin.... Oranmiyan from Oyo conquered Igodomigodo kings and Yoruba began ruling Bini Only Bini King and his family are Yoruba 7 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by koiki4bat: 9:48am On Sep 06, 2023 |
iammo: |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Padipadi(m): 9:56am On Sep 06, 2023 |
koiki4bat:..what does it mean in Benin language? Let's assume Yorubas are thieves, they stole Benin identity, culture etc. What does Oduduwa or Izoduwa as Benins who are the real culture thief, familiarizing with Yorubas. When a culture supercede your culture, don't talk down on it. From the north, Hausa/Fulani aggression to the rude Igbos and now a Benin kitten. No say I be tribal bigot but let no one with a good history come and rubbish a nation with good history. |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Padipadi(m): 9:57am On Sep 06, 2023 |
koiki4bat:Though their are similarities. But the way Benins argue blindly is annoying. I blv you are Benins. what does it mean in Benin language? Let's assume Yorubas are thieves, they stole Benin identity, culture etc. What does Oduduwa or Izoduwa as Benins who are the real culture thief, familiarizing with Yorubas. When a culture supercede your culture, don't talk down on it. From the north, Hausa/Fulani aggression to the rude Igbos and now a Benin kitten. No say I be tribal bigot but let no one with a good history come and rubbish a nation with good history. |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by illicit(m): 9:59am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Even if it means nothing, it's not unusual There are so many earlier names that are just names and means nothing much Some meanings are lost, some are refined |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by updatechange(m): 10:05am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Avoid the urge to shalaye… what’s the op trying to gain with this flimsy question? |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by koiki4bat: 10:06am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Padipadi:No I'm not bini I did my youth service therr |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by OgaFactCheck: 10:15am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Darren95: Odu to da iwa. 'Odu' relates to a verse in the Ifa (oracle) tradition just like the verses in the Holy Bible or AlQurian (e.g. Pslam 93 Or Suratul quraysh). 'iwa' literally means behaviour (or good behavior). 'to da' means to create or cause to exist. It is possible that 'Iwa' in this context, may be a name (Epitome of good behavior or well-behaved) just like 'Ola'- wealth or that signifies wealth. I am not an authority on this. 'Iwa' may also be a code of behaviour (code of conduct) expected from the people (collective) or that defines a certain people just like the constitution. I suspect that this last one is the case. The reason is that Iwa in the individual context (a person named Iwa) does not align with the Yoruba mythology which sees Oduduwa (name of Yoruba progenitor) as the first human creature and Ile-Ife as the Origin of all places (ibi Ojumo ti nmowa). My take is that Oduduwa or [i]Odu to da Iwa [/i]means the verse or within which information about creation is domiciled. This appears plausible given that the Yorubas then believed that it is only ile Ife that existed. The custodian of that verse would likely be the first in that settlement or the one highly reverred by the first in the settlement. It is not unusual for people to be eventually be known by a certain things that stands out about them. Given that records were preserved by Oral tradition rather than in writing, it will be difficult to separate the verse from the custodian. For instance, a lawyer may be called 'the law'. People may even forget their original name. As for those who think the name (Oduduwa) is not Yoruba or have no roots in Yoruba tradition, I think it is actually a Yoruba word. Update: Someone said up there that 'Iwa' means to be or to exist. I think that is more accurate and depicts what the word means than my own submission. However, it doesn't fault the core of my argument. Let me revise my argument. Odu(verse) du(to da) Iwa (existence). The verse that contains information about existence. Apart from the amendment, I consider all other arguments that I put forward as plausible. Being plausible does not imply being factual. |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Padipadi(m): 10:19am On Sep 06, 2023 |
koiki4bat:Whichever, I ll be here to give more insight why Oduduwa is indeed Odu-to-da-iwa, (The power that brings forth existence). Cos those Benins can't give meaning to the name. Even Izoduwa, they don't know the meaning. A tribe can't exist and have words, sentences without meanings to it. Consider this points: If Benins had more influence on Yorubas, how come it's Yoruba culture that's dominating them, from kingship to language, culture, kingdom size etc. How come Benins can't phantom the origin of deities like Ogun, Iyemoja etc? What's the meaning of the name Benin? Isn't it Ile-Ibinu, land of vexation! Oranmiyan, a Yoruba man gave them that name. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by sharpwriter(m): 11:03am On Sep 06, 2023 |
koiki4bat:So what's the direct meaning in English language? |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by MrAgbako: 11:25am On Sep 06, 2023 |
iammo:exactly! |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Darren95: 11:52am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Padipadi: What is the evidence that Yoruba language have influence on Benin language |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Padipadi(m): 12:59pm On Sep 06, 2023 |
Darren95:Ade, Ogun, Iyemoja, Okiki, Obatala etc. See more here https://www.zikoko.com/life/oldies/8-yoruba-words-mean-thing-edo/ I.e: Ogede in Yoruba is spelt Oghede in Edo. Bata is spelt as Ibata in Edo. Yeye is Iyeye in Edo, etc. So it's like Benins copied Yoruba culture. |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by NSNO(m): 1:49pm On Sep 06, 2023 |
Padipadi:Actually it's the other way round, the yorubas copied bini culture. The way I heard it is that the only son of the last ogiso was banished due to the lies of the Queen, he then went to yoruba land and united them, became their king. When his father died, he was asked to come and take his throne, he instead sent his son oromiyan. |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Padipadi(m): 2:27pm On Sep 06, 2023 |
NSNO:So let's say Oduduwa was a Benin prince as let's swallow that lie. I asked, was Benin never called Ile-Ibinu? Cos when thousands of lie are out, it can't cover up a single truth. So tell me the meaning of the word Benin. Also, where's the origin of Ogun, Obatala, Iyemoja, names like Ogede, Bata, Yeye, Ade, Ola, Oba etc in Benin language. Cos all mentioned above has factory resetting meanings (as in a break down of the word in Yoruba language). So why all these undue attachment and claims by Benins. There's also Ife artefacts which looked more naturalistic than Benin art. It's on record in history books and art books that Oba Oguola of Benin sent for a craftsman from Ile-Ife to teach Benin artisans how to do bronze casting. Shey the authors of those history books are liers too? Is it not on record in the Benin palace that past kings were buried in Ife? Not a myth o! Lastly, how come Benin empire that claimed to be the major influence become less important than Yoruba Kingdom? How come the Yoruba Kingdom became larger than the Benins? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by NSNO(m): 3:29pm On Sep 06, 2023 |
Padipadi:That oduduwa was a bini Prince is a fact not a lie and as for the that ile ibinu name, there appears to be different theories about the origins of the old name of Benin. Even if the your theory is correct, it was still a bini man that gave it the yoruba name. And the fact that yoruba appears more widespread is irrelevant because that does not change the fact that a bini Prince was the one who united them. |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Padipadi(m): 3:51pm On Sep 06, 2023 |
NSNO:Ok. Since you believed in different theories, then I d say the theory of your lost probe Ekaladerhan or Izoduwa is hogwash to common sense and to Yoruba history. You are free to right Bini history the way it pleases you. But the real Oduduwa migrated from eastern Africa. Evidence from the book of Late Rev Samuel Johnson, an educated African cleric who lived in the 1800s. Till date, there are researches, evidence and other items that points to Yorubas influence on Binis but you guys only v one lie which is the lost prince theory. If una lose una prince, why not dig your history to know. Binis saw how prosperous Ife was and asked for their help in establishing a ruler. You can't call Oranmiyan a Bini man. Was he born there? What was his language and culture? Which other theory points out to the meaning of Benin if not Ile-Ibinu? Oya name it. Also, all written above that are names, how come there's no proper breakdown of it in Benin language? How come Yorubas can give breakdown meanings to Oduduwa, Ogun, Obatala, Iyemoja, names like Ogede, Bata, Yeye, Ade, Ola, Oba etc? What about the similarities in the bronze casting? How come Ife art were more naturalistic and beautiful than Benin Art, especially the bronze figures. Looking at them, you ll know who's master and apprentice. To all Benins here that likes to drag this lost prince theory, grow shame! Dig your history and stay in your lane. See as you dey argue like naive obidients. No let me drag you! See the artworks below. Pic 1 and 3 = Ife female and male bronze heads looking naturalistic Pic 2 and 4 = Benin bronze head of make and female looking stylized. So tell me which one resemble human being pass if not the one of the culture that taught the other. If we are to live as one maybe in the past, there's cultural similarities, no problem. But no Benin boy or girl here must say rubbish that has no fact! 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by Nobody: 4:25pm On Sep 06, 2023 |
iammo:Yes we are cousins. We have been living with them since our existence and you claim we’re not cousin you see how ridiculous that sounds. Honestly we are way too tribalistic for 2023 |
Re: Yoruba Please What Is The Meaning Of “oduduwa” In Your Language?? by iammo(m): 4:40pm On Sep 06, 2023 |
Naijaboy18: Cousins share same grand parents, neighbors live next to each other sharing boundary and been tribalistic is showing allegiance to your tribe, ethnicity and culture I am just clearifying things I am a Yoruba, Bini is not my cousin... Bini Ore boundaries of Yoruba and Bini are miles apart If Bini is your cousin then Fulani and Kanuri are also your cousin . |
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