For Christians: Ever wondered why God doesn't speak 100% clearly most of the time?
I'd like you to watch this YT Short. This is one interesting addition to what you already know about this topic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2YEIx7Atc4?si=uBvqZ72ij9_2H0zE

GLHHub:
For Christians: Ever wondered why God doesn't speak 100% clearly most of the time?
I'd like you to watch this YT Short. This is one interesting addition to what you already know about this topic.

This is a lie though! First of all, God does not speak to the unrighteous. No matter how much you pray as an unrighteous, God does not answer at all. So when the man in the video claims that God does not speak clearly, it isn't God speaking but their minds speaking back to them. The idea that God speaks to you through your mind... that is a farce.

Another thing is that God said He does not answer the pleas, the praises, the petitions of the unrighteous. And when God speaks to the righteous, He always makes Himself clear — He built your system of understanding so there is no way you can mistake what God said for anything else. You might be terrified as far as the cost of the command but unclear, no. So, again, the claim that God's answers, when clear, is because some punishment awaits disobedience is a lie.

Kobojunkie:
This is a lie though! First of all, God does not speak to the unrighteous. No matter how much you pray as an unrighteous, God does not answer at all. So when the man in the video claims that God does not speak clearly, it isn't God speaking but their minds speaking back to them. The idea that God speaks to you through your mind... that is a farce.

Another thing is that God said He does not answer the pleas, the praises, the petitions of the unrighteous. And when God speaks to the righteous, He always makes Himself clear — He built your system of understanding so there is no way you can mistake what God said for anything else. You might be terrified as far as the cost of the command but unclear, no. So, again, the claim that God's answers, when clear, is because some punishment awaits disobedience is a lie.

Pardon me for being inquisitive, but I must confess that I am somewhat perplexed by your claim that the Divine Being does not converse with those who lack a moral compass, while omitting any explanation as to whether or not he communicates with the general populace. Would you be able to elaborate on this hypothesis?

Kobojunkie:
This is a lie though! First of all, God does not speak to the unrighteous. No matter how much you pray as an unrighteous, God does not answer at all. So when the man in the video claims that God does not speak clearly, it isn't God speaking but their minds speaking back to them. The idea that God speaks to you through your mind... that is a farce.

Another thing is that God said He does not answer the pleas, the praises, the petitions of the unrighteous. And when God speaks to the righteous, He always makes Himself clear — He built your system of understanding so there is no way you can mistake what God said for anything else. You might be terrified as far as the cost of the command but unclear, no. So, again, the claim that God's answers, when clear, is because some punishment awaits disobedience is a lie.

Let's analyse a few of the sentences I made:

1:

For Christians

Are you a Christian or you wish to interfere in other people's discussions?

2:

God doesn't speak 100% clearly most of the time?

If you are a Christian, does God always speak 100% clearly to you all the time? Do you get to hear God's decision for every single daily action you have to take? If yes, no qualms.

3:

This is one interesting addition to what you already know about this topic.

Again, I hope you're a Christian before trying to help us explain Christian stuff... Cos last time I checked, Christians always had the need to learn more and more.

Botragelad:
■ Pardon me for being inquisitive, but I must confess that I am somewhat perplexed by your claim that the Divine Being does not converse with those who lack a moral compass, while omitting any explanation as to whether or not he communicates with the general populace.
■ Would you be able to elaborate on this hypothesis?

1. Lack a moral compass? I never said that. I instead said God does not answer the pleas/petitions/requests/calls, etc., of the unrighteous — those who are not holy .i.e. not lbving their lives in compliance with His Law(teachings and commandments). Ofcourse, your general populace included.

2. Mind you, this is according to that written of the God of Scripture, and Jesus Christ of course. So where Jesus Christ is God's current Law available only to the Lost sheep of Israel, God will only answer those who love Him as explained by Jesus Christ in His Law and Gospel.

GLHHub:
Let's analyse a few of the sentences I made:
1: Are you a Christian or you wish to interfere in other people's discussions?
2: If you are a Christian, does God always speak 100% clearly to you all the time? Do you get to hear God's decision for every single daily action you have to take? If yes, no qualms.
3: Again, I hope you're a Christian before trying to help us explain Christian stuff... Cos last time I checked, Christians always had the need to learn more and more.

The answer to your question is an emphatic NO, I do not belong to the religion of Christianity which has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ who instead warned His followers to flee the doctrines and traditions of men — lies— upon which even the religion of men is founded. I believe and adhere instead to Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant, and Law in the Kingdom of God.

GLHHub:
For Christians:

Kobojunkie:
NO, I do not belong to the religion of Christianity

Settled.

Kobojunkie:
1. Lack a moral compass? I never said that. I instead said God does not answer the pleas/petitions/requests/calls, etc., of the unrighteous — those who are not holy .i.e. not lbving their lives in compliance with His Law(teachings and commandments). Ofcourse, your general populace included.

2. Mind you, this is according to that written of the God of Scripture, and Jesus Christ of course. So where Jesus Christ is God's current Law available only to the Lost sheep of Israel, God will only answer those who love Him as explained by Jesus Christ in His Law and Gospel.

Good. I got exactly what I needed. Thanks!

GLHHub:
■ Settled.

I do not belong to your religious entity does not mean I am not gonna call out the lies you lot from your group attempt to hide behind your many mentions of a God who made clear that you are not of Him.

God speaks to us through our instinct and through nature..... listen carefully..

Kobojunkie:
This is a lie though! First of all, God does not speak to the unrighteous. No matter how much you pray as an unrighteous, God does not answer at all. So when the man in the video claims that God does not speak clearly, it isn't God speaking but their minds speaking back to them. The idea that God speaks to you through your mind... that is a farce.

Another thing is that God said He does not answer the pleas, the praises, the petitions of the unrighteous. And when God speaks to the righteous, He always makes Himself clear — He built your system of understanding so there is no way you can mistake what God said for anything else. You might be terrified as far as the cost of the command but unclear, no. So, again, the claim that God's answers, when clear, is because some punishment awaits disobedience is a lie.

Was Balaam righteous according to you?

LordReed:
■ Was Balaam righteous according to you?

I believe the answer to that question is clearly depicted in the book. You do not need my opinion on it.

Kobojunkie:
I believe the answer to that question is clearly depicted in the book. You do not need my opinion on it.

I certainly do. Balaam sold his services and was giving advice on how to corrupt the Israelites yet was speaking and receiving answers from the god. Is Balaam righteous according to you? Or would you admit that it breaks your assertion? Maybe you accede that Balaam was a special case?

LordReed:
■ I certainly do. Balaam sold his services and was giving advice on how to corrupt the Israelites yet was speaking and receiving answers from the god. Is Balaam righteous according to you? Or would you admit that it [b]breaks your assertion? [/b]Maybe you accede that Balaam was a special case?

Breaks what particular assertion though?

By the way, contrary to the popular narrative, Balaam is not written to have sold his services to Balak.

10 When Balak heard this, he angrily struck his fist against his hand and said to Balaam, “I called you to come and curse my enemies. But you have blessed them. You have blessed them three times.
11 Now leave and go home! I told you that I would give you a very good payment, but the Lord has caused you to lose your reward.”
12 Balaam said to Balak, “You sent men to ask me to come. Don’t you remember what I told them? I said,
13 ‘Even if Balak gives me his most beautiful house filled with silver and gold, I can still say only what the Lord commands me to say. I cannot do anything myself, good or bad. I must say what the Lord commands.’
14 Now I am going back to my own people. But I will give you this warning. I will tell you what these Israelites will do to you and your people in the future.” - Numbers 24 vs 12-14

Kobojunkie:
Breaks what particular assertion though?

That the god does not speak to the unrighteous.

Was Cain righteous? Yet the story says the god spoke to him.

LordReed:
■ That the god does not speak to the unrighteous. Was Cain righteous? Yet the story says the god spoke to him.

Cain was not recorded to have been a sinner before the incident in Genesis 4 took place. He and his brother, Abel, seemed to have been in somewhat good standing with God since they even offered Him, God, the proceeds of their labors.

Back to Balaam, Balaam was also not recorded to have been a sinner in Numbers 22-24 where God is said to have spoken directly to him.

Kobojunkie:
Cain was not recorded to have been a sinner before the incident in Genesis 4 took place. He and his brother, Abel, seemed to have been in somewhat good standing with God since they even offered Him, God, the proceeds of their labors.

Back to Balaam, Balaam was also not recorded to have been a sinner in Numbers 22-24 where God is said to have spoken directly to him.

Cain had just killed his brother, is that not unrighteous?

Balaam had decided to sell his services, his supernatural power to Balak, is that not unrighteous?

LordReed:
■ Cain had just killed his brother, is that not unrighteous?
■ Balaam had decided to sell his services, his supernatural power to Balak, is that not unrighteous?

A righteous is able to change his mind, yes.

2. But Balaam never sold his services to Balak though.

Kobojunkie:
A righteous is able to change his mind, yes.

2. But Balaam never sold his services to Balak though.

So after killing his brother he was still righteous?

LordReed:
■ So after killing his brother he was still righteous?

God is the one able to approve a man righteous — He is the standard. He alone is able to give and take that approval away from any man. The same pattern can be observed in what is written of Adam and Eve in Genesis 3.

Kobojunkie:
God is the one able to approve a man righteous — He is the standard. He alone is able to give and take that approval away from any man. The same pattern can be observed in what is written of Adam and Eve in Genesis 3.

LoLz. So how are you certain that the god does speak to the unrighteous since the god can give approval on a whim?

LordReed:
■ LoLz. So how are you certain that the god does speak to the unrighteous since the god can give approval on a whim?

You would first need to explain where you get this idea that He gives approval on a whim to me.

Kobojunkie:
You would first need to explain where you get this idea that He gives approval on a whim to me.

From you!

Kobojunkie:
God is the one able to approve a man righteous — He is the standard. He alone is able to give and take that approval away from any man. The same pattern can be observed in what is written of Adam and Eve in Genesis 3.

LordReed:
■ From you!

What aspect of what I wrote suggests God's approval happens on a whim as you instead claim?

LordReed:


From you!

That guy looses his chain of thought so easily..look how he will twist what he just said...

He probably goes off his meds, I just pray he does not blow all the fuses...

Kobojunkie:
What aspect of what I wrote suggests God's approval happens on a whim as you instead claim?

If you can tell me the criteria the god uses to choose who to give and take that approval away from then it won't be a whim. Otherwise it is a whim.

sonmvayina:


That guy looses his chain of thought so easily..look how he will twist what he just said...

He probably goes off his meds, I just pray he does not blow all the fuses...

LoLz. I just love discussing with kobo, it's such fun.

LordReed:
■ If you can tell me the criteria the god uses to choose who to give and take that approval away from then it won't be a whim. Otherwise it is a whim.

I did hint at this when I mentioned earlier that Cain, and also, Balaam were not recorded to have been sinners at the time God spoke to each of them. The standard given by God is holiness... only those who attain holiness are able to go on to be approved righteous by God. There is no on a whim to His approval of any man.

GLHHub:
For Christians: Ever wondered why God doesn't speak 100% clearly most of the time?
I'd like you to watch this YT Short. This is one interesting addition to what you already know about this topic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2YEIx7Atc4?si=uBvqZ72ij9_2H0zE

Several issues here. Let's assume the Christian god does exist, and chooses to speak with people.

First issue is that the claim that god doesn't speak clearly because the consequences for disobedience are higher simply doesn't make sense.

According to the bible, the punishment for sinners is supposed to be an eternity in hell.. a place of fire, brimstone, torment, etc. You get the picture.

Given this seems to be the default destination for all those who "disobey" him, then by your logic, he should be speaking really, really clearly.. because as far as punishments go, it doesn't get much worse than that