Kobojunkie:
Yes, that Olukoya as a liar is common sense since he continues to say things that Jesus Christ never said.

2. So, since my toilet seat is not in your bible mean that by using it, I go to hell?

like I said it's common sense... If u like use ur toilet seat or open defecate.... Dats ur business

Judolisco:
like I said it's common sense... If u like use ur toilet seat or open defecate.... Dats ur business

But toilet seat is common sense and it is not in your Bible. So shouldn't it be hell for me to use it?

The reason why eejits like this Olukoya man thrives in his wickedness is because they are many gullible individuals willing to cast God to the side in order to be embraced by men. Jesus Christ warned that it is a sin against God to follow the doctrines and traditions of men — lies— yet here you are telling me it is common sense for this Olukoya to add his own doctrines and traditions to God's own mouth.

uche87:
There is a saying that "people tend to see life from where they stand". From a religious standpoint, the founder of the Mountain of Fire and Miracles, Dr D.K Olukoya's claim that the devil has taken over women doing the Brazilian Butt Lift, BBL might be justified.
On the 4th of September, 2023, Olukoya said: “Many churchgoers, unfortunately, have become so worthless that the devil does not waste time on them again, he has already captured them,” he said.
“When you are a woman and you go for surgery to expand your breasts and bum, you are already gone.

“You are telling God that the one he put there is not okay so you want to put your own. The devil will not waste time on such people" he concluded.

Personally, I'm not against women going under the knife to cover their physical insecurities. People need to be allowed to do what they have to do to be happy. In the 21st century, the pressure is high on every adult to succeed in many spheres of life. If the pressure isn't well managed, this could cause mental health complications like depression, anxiety disorder, drug abuse leading to drug-induced psychosis, and others.

The psychology of BBL women

There is a need for people to feel comfortable and confident about the way they look. People are wired differently and they tackle issues in their own unique way they deem appropriate. While some women gather confidence in their fat bank accounts, material possessions, personal achievements, and intellectual prowess, others gather confidence in physical attributes like their beauty, glowing skin, curvy shape, round & firm breasts, massive bum, round hips, flat tummy, small waist, sexy eyes, pink lips, white teeth, and others. The challenge for people of this latter class is that these attributes fade over time. The toll of motherhood also changes the 'factory settings' of some women for life. By the time some women are in their thirties or forties, their bodies begin to experience significant changes that physical exercises and food intake control might not fix. The tummy becomes protruded and bigger, and at times you could be mistaken for being pregnant. The bosoms take a permanent resting position like they are overseeing the mid-section. The bum becomes flappy, stretch marks take over some strategic areas, acne dominates the face leaving spots behind, and wrinkles also creep in. If the person in question was getting a hundred likes on a picture on Instagram, the number might drop to fifteen likes. Direct Messaging, DM also takes a fall. If you are a public figure who has a social media presence, your fanbase would gradually reduce with supporters becoming haters. They will start to sneak some vile comments into the comment section. These social media comments are subsequently corrosive. I remember when OAP Toke Makinwa used to upload some elegant pictures on social media and some commenters would complain that her bum was flat. This must have coerced into going for liposuction to enlarge her derriere. The same critics would tell her today that her doctor did a bad job and one side is bigger than the other. This is so ridiculous!
The transient nature of life

From a psychological point of view, negative social media comments could be very herculean to manage, if your strength as a human being is mainly hinged on your body. What people of this short-sighted view have failed to realize is the transient nature of life. Nobody reigns forever. Every medication/drug no matter how potent has an expiry date. The vintage car - Peugeot 5054/5055 was once for the elites, today it is a symbol of abject poverty and it is apparently off the road. Where are the BlackBerry phones some women sacrificed their dignity for? What about the famous Yahoo Messenger?
I can go on and on to explain the transient nature of life. Additionally, there is no way you can please everyone with how you look, and this is why we have individual tastes called 'spec' according to English slang. Only ice cream makes everybody happy. But on the other hand, a section of adults would tell you ice cream is too sugary, and might affect their performance in the 'other room'.

Is the BBL Wrong?

The above question is very tricky. It depends on who you ask. If you ask the doctors, they will give you a million reasons why it is right, and so will their customers. If you ask the religious leaders, they will not only tell you it is wrong, but they will also go as far as making a case that the end of the world is near.
The National Health Service, NHS in England, sees liposuction demands by people as easily expendable, except it's a genuine reconstruction procedure that is proven to have caused severe psychological effects.

In my opinion, the best way to decide this is by looking at the 'INTENTION' or driving force behind liposuction. The majority of the women see it as an 'investment'. It is actually an investment because it runs into millions of Naira both at home and abroad. In fact, the cheaper the cost of the surgical procedure, the closer you are to your grave. It is risky too.

These women are not undertaking the life-threatening experience for the fun of it. It is bluntly to attract the big men, although this is easily deniable. There is a common rumour that hovers around women doing liposuction and it is 'transactional sex'. They are either accused of snatching other people's men or warming the beds of the sugar daddies. These people accused of sleeping around also don't help matters. They desperately market themselves both to the rich and poor; whosoever cares to do business with them. They post raunchy pictures of themselves online, wearing the most revealing outfits that could soil the thoughts of any man. They try to make every conversation about their bodies. They share the biggest testimonies of property acquisitions online, and attribute them to 'God'. They go on endless international holiday trips, lodge in fancy hotels, and display exotic foreign meals they might even struggle to eat behind the scenes. Their flamboyant lifestyles are always in disagreement with their earnings. Their publicized accomplishments make the genuinely hardworking people look lazy.

Conclusion

Truthfully, these members of the BBL family are selling 'something' on a clandestine note, and they don't normally disclose it. Some bold ladies like Funmilola Talabi aka 'Funmi Sugar' - a social media influencer have been able to publicly admit she is an 'escort'. She even goes as far as discussing her rates online. Many more are still hiding but by their fruits, we shall know them.
Now let me ask some questions. Is prostitution not morally wrong? Is it a honourable job? Do you genuinely believe God is happy with the women? Honest answers to these questions could draw us closer to the truth.

Osahon George Osayimwen is a Journalist and a Developmental Psychologist. He writes from the United Kingdom.

Nonsense thinking of let's allow people take care of their insecurities is the reason behind Gay etc that have turned the world upside down.

People need to be told what is right at times for them to do

Gay Marriage is wrong
Same sex marriage is sinful
Butt and Breast enlargement is wrong
Revealing clothes is sinful

Full Stop

isabi2lof:


What's your definition of a real man ? 80% of your gender , loves those fake things . 🥱

I am talking about the 20% real men

if we continue to allow social media pressure determine how you look, you will end up looking like a chimera.

You can not hinge your happiness solely on how you look to the point that you go for expensive and dangerous surgeries.

People have heart, kidney and other forms of operations to prolong their life not to massage their egos.

That's how it started, then Bruce Jenner became Caitlyn Jenner.

One day you married a woman, she say she want to become a Man. It's a psychological problem.

There is no telling where it will lead to if it goes on without check.

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense reasoning!

And you think yours isn't the same nonsense reasoning?
Nonsense reasoning, yours is. I can see how you've been overly irked by the topic, as evident by you loafing all about the thread sounding as if the Pastor annoyed you for calling out women who go under the knife to get bigger butts. You love to propagate (strongly) the doctrine of ' free will '
Whilst we were given free will , we were also given a brain and even more than this, we were given the Holy Spirit to teach us all things. Unless He isn't active in your life (Moat times, The HS is active by means of you allowing him to be active (by having a broken Spirit, and humbling yourself to the T, for Him to take charge) )

It seems as though you want to mislead others with clever-sounding reasoning that is still faux truth (faux truth = a lie )

Look here, it's the people wasting their time going back and forth with you that i pity. They should have been familiar with your tactics (including your mind games) by now.
You'll miss with that BS , should you try to bring it along. Some of us know how to not give you the pleasure you seek from your intentional rhetoric and adamant mentality (always).

No matter how clever you try to be, kobojunkie, you can never distort truth (dull truth , because half truth is equal to a LIE ) and successfully mislead all your readers to the path of hell. Some will be mislead and misinformed, but not everyone who reads your words can be. And in the end, God is still going to ask you why you did it. Thank goodness he (God) sees clearly through your heart and soul (a place the rest of us can't see ) You won't get away with it, though, you may feel you are getting away with it on Nairaland.
There will be no back and forth with you on the subject , because already, it's like ' throwing pearls to swine/pigs '
And it is written in scriptures.
The excerpts in the screenshots below best describes (going by scriptural measures) how you portray yourself.
Let me leave you (and your supporters reading ) this scripture passage to attempt to enlighten and correct y'all: * 2nd Timothy: 3 - 4 *
You are not allowing the power to change your way of thinking and acting. Instead, it's you who wants to be dictating to the power (no be craze be that ? ) on how the power should direct your life. Until you die to self-will, all i am saying here isn't going to make sense to you. Ask God, if you think I'm lying. Just ask with humility, and see if he won't respond in your dream with the correct answers to your misinformation.

Food for thought...(not directly referencing the screenshot below, but sharing my thought)

" People who cannot be convinced on anything " Proud and haughty people. Turn away from such, and give yourselves over to sound teachings, and counsel.

God really needs to help people, oh.
But hasn't he? I think its just the people who don't want to receive the help, knowing that they'll have to stop living the kind of life tha they love to, and are used to.
There is no shortcut to heaven , for those of us who believe in there being a heaven.

israelmao:
Women have always have problem with visual appeal,I have keenly observed some women admiring their fellow women most especially the ones they could match in terms of mode of addressing and beauty to point of losing in thought.

Me too!
I can totally relate to haven had this same experience. I've seen women stare at another woman's curvaceous appearance to the point were they became visibly insecure and even lustful. You know women love to compete with their fellow women.
Lol, the look on their faces when they become fixated and lost in the thoughts, whilst staring at the other womans endowments is hilarious and priceless.
They're never going to change...these things... Until the return of the Messiah.

Perhaps this misogynist "journalist" has started paying to have his opinions shared here, after all it is Red Pill Central. Last week it was something denigrating about women, today it's another one. From pretending to sound understanding to getting to his real misogynist views, he's a real piece of work. There are men who do these surgeries as well, but that isn't his concern. It is only women who do these things to him. Misogyny is indeed stupidity.

The good news is that he will always have staunch supporters.

It's long since I last heard of Mommy G.O.

Will Nigerian pastors make heaven? Awon pulpit bandits

Acekidc4:
Wetin consign God with whether you enlarge your booty or boobs. Na your Heart him dey after!!

But sorry to bust your bubble, There is nothing like Physical Heaven or Hell fire. They are all Religion False construct to enslave and Control your Mind.

...you say no physical heaven and hell fire...are you saying what the Bible says about heaven and hell fire to be real is fake news

PaulOtl:
■ And you think yours isn't the same nonsense reasoning?
Nonsense reasoning, yours is. I can see how you've been overly irked by the topic, as evident by you loafing all about the thread sounding as if the Pastor annoyed you for calling out women who go under the knife to get bigger butts. You love to propagate (strongly) the doctrine of ' free will '
Whilst we were given free will , we were also given a brain and even more than this, we were given the Holy Spirit to teach us all things. Unless He isn't active in your life (Moat times, The HS is active by means of you allowing him to be active (by having a broken Spirit, and humbling yourself to the T, for Him to take charge) )

It seems as though you want to mislead others with clever-sounding reasoning that is still faux truth (faux truth = a lie )

Look here, it's the people wasting their time going back and forth with you that i pity. They should have been familiar with your tactics (including your mind games) by now.
You'll miss with that BS , should you try to bring it along. Some of us know how to not give you the pleasure you seek from your intentional rhetoric and adamant mentality (always).

No matter how clever you try to be, kobojunkie, you can never distort truth (dull truth , because half truth is equal to a LIE ) and successfully mislead all your readers to the path of hell. Some will be mislead and misinformed, but not everyone who reads your words can be. And in the end, God is still going to ask you why you did it. Thank goodness he (God) sees clearly through your heart and soul (a place the rest of us can't see ) You won't get away with it, though, you may feel you are getting away with it on Nairaland.
There will be no back and forth with you on the subject , because already, it's like ' throwing pearls to swine/pigs '
And it is written in scriptures.
The excerpts in the screenshots below best describes (going by scriptural measures) how you portray yourself.
Let me leave you (and your supporters reading ) this scripture passage to attempt to enlighten and correct y'all: * 2nd Timothy: 3 - 4 *
You are not allowing the power to change your way of thinking and acting. Instead, it's you who wants to be dictating to the power (no be craze be that ? ) on how the power should direct your life. Until you die to self-will, all i am saying here isn't going to make sense to you. Ask God, if you think I'm lying. Just ask with humility, and see if he won't respond in your dream with the correct answers to your misinformation.

Yet more foolishness! So God gave each man freedom to live his life as he pleases, yet somehow the same God installed you and your ilk as monitoring spirit over the choices each man can or cannot make? Is God some sort of duplicitous wicked being to you? Why is it that every time you religious folks fume, you always come up with ideas that directly contradict and contravention God Himself?

Look at you using Jesus Christ, the one who never gave you perform to mind another man's business, as reason to install yourself as god over your fellow men. Are you that deprived of a life of your own that you would resent to such wickedness?

Nazgul:
Dr. Olukoya is one of the few pastors in Nigeria I have geninue respect for.

Another pastor I have respect for is Apostle Selma.

Same here

Do you think it's every lady that will be able to endure being bottom feeders for life? You think it's every one that will be able to endure the taunts and mistreatment and neglect you guys mete out to women who you consider unattractive? There should be no sermon for women, but for men. If men want their women to be alright, then they need to learn to treat every woman like a human being. Every woman should be eligible for trips round the world, spoiling, love and romance. Not just those with catching looks, a nice shape, and youth. Until then, ambitious women will do what they must to have their own taste of these things. Women are human beings who want what their counterparts are enjoying. You men can't be rounding up all goodies of life for a particular set of women and you say other ladies should not do what they can to partake.

Thank you.

ufotunang:
...you say no physical heaven and hell fire...are you saying what the Bible says about heaven and hell fire to be real is fake news

Have you ever heard of the word Allegory🤔🤔

Kobojunkie:
Yet more foolishness! So God gave each man freedom to live his life as he pleases, yet somehow the same God installed you and your ilk as monitoring spirit over the choices each man can or cannot make? Is God some sort of duplicitous wicked being to you? Why is it that every time you religious folks fume, you always come up with ideas that directly contradict and contravention God Himself?

Look at you using Jesus Christ, the one who never gave you perform to mind another man's business, as reason to install yourself as god over your fellow men. Are you that deprived of a life of your own that you would resent to such wickedness?

Heaven knows you are the one doing the emboldened, between you and I.
Talk about a pot calling a kettle black. I was full of smiles and amusement, whilst responding to your failed attempt at misleading others, and my words were non-confrontational and aggressive. But just take a look at yours...hahaha

Kobojunkie, I expected a better response from you, but seems you had none this time around. SMH.
God gave humans free will, but does this mean he won't still allow people go to hellfire for enjoying this same free will?
So much for free will. Hehehe.
Stop misleading people, jareeehhhh. And stop being worked up and angry for no good reason. I know your type, and God has already given me the grace to overcome your type. I cant be deceived. Rebuking is not the same as judging people, in case you want to pull out that card against me. We are allowed to rebuke, haven made sure we have tested the spirit behind a person's claims , actions, and decisions. If you dont have the spirit of discernment, better ask God for it. So that you will know when that deceiving spirit comes to whisper its twisted, false doctrines into yoir ever-ready ears.
Kobokojunkie...you better seek for the truth and drop all those self-pride , and refusing to allow the untainted word of God change the way you think and act. It's not enough to just think you know about God. You have to know the correct nature of God.

Shalom!
I know you love to argue, but i won't throw anymore pearls to swines, as far as this topic and thread is concerned. You should know what i mean.

PaulOtl:
■ Heaven knows you are the one doing the emboldened, between you and I.
Talk about a pot calling a kettle black. I was full of smiles and amusement, whilst responding to your failed attempt at misleading others, and my words were non-confrontational and aggressive. But just take a look at yours...hahaha

Kobojunkie, I expected a better response from you, but seems you had none this time around. SMH.
God gave humans free will, but does this mean he won't still allow people go to hellfire for enjoying this same free will?
So much for free will. Hehehe.
Stop misleading people, jareeehhhh. Amd stop being worked up and angry for no good reason. I know your type, and God has already given me the grace to overcome your type. I cant be deceived. Rebuking is not the same as judging people, in case you want to pull out that card against me. We are allowed to rebuke, haven made sure we have tested the spirit behind a person's claims , actions, and decisions. If you dont have the spirit of discernment, better ask God for it. So that you will know when that deceiving spirit comes to whisper its twisted, false doctrines into yoir ever-ready ears.
Kobokojunkie...you better seek for the truth and drop all those self-pride , and refusing to allow the untainted word of God change the way you think and act. Its not enough to just think you know about God. You have to know the correct nature of God.
Shalom!
I know you love to argue, but i won't throw anymore pearls to swines, as far as this topic and thread is concerned. You should know what i mean.

Again, Yet more foolishness! So God gave each man freedom to live his life as he pleases, yet somehow the same God installed you and your ilk as monitoring spirit over the choices each man can or cannot make? Is God some sort of duplicitous wicked being to you? Why is it that every time you religious folks fume, you always come up with ideas that directly contradict and contravention God Himself?

Look at you using Jesus Christ, the one who never gave you PERMISSION to mind another man's business, as reason to install yourself as god over your fellow men. Are you that deprived of a life of your own that you would resent to such wickedness?

Kobojunkie:
Again, Yet more foolishness! So God gave each man freedom to live his life as he pleases, yet somehow the same God installed you and your ilk as monitoring spirit over the choices each man can or cannot make? Is God some sort of duplicitous wicked being to you? Why is it that every time you religious folks fume, you always come up with ideas that directly contradict and contravention God Himself?

Look at you using Jesus Christ, the one who never gave you perform to mind another man's business, as reason to install yourself as god over your fellow men. Are you that deprived of a life of your own that you would resent to such wickedness?

Lol...what sort of gibberish incoherency is this? I am not even interested in knowing! Don't bother answering that.

It's swine language, i guess. And oh, i noticed it in the first mention from you to me, but i just overlooked it.
And you come with the same jargons once again.
Resist any urge to ' shalaye '

Henceforth, you'll be ignored.

purples25:
Do you think it's every lady that will be able to endure being bottom feeders for life? You think it's every one that will be able to endure the taunts and mistreatment and neglect you guys mete out to women who you consider unattractive? There should be no sermon for women, but for men. If men want their women to be alright, then they need to learn to treat every woman like a human being. Every woman should be eligible for trips round the world, spoiling, love and romance. Not just those with catching looks, a nice shape, and youth. Until then, ambitious women will do what they must to have their own taste of these things. Women are human beings who want what their counterparts are enjoying. You men can't be rounding up all goodies of life for a particular set of women and you say other ladies should not do what they can to partake.

Thank you.

Oh, my gosh!
I just love, love, love this!
By extension, it means i love the writer of this down-to-earth piece. Many women cannot humble themselves to pen down what you have just submitted as a major reason for the insecurities amongst our women.
🔥
But allow me to add...men aren't the only culprits here. Women also 'pepper ' and make fellow women feel inferior and less desirable if they have small buttocks.
I've seen many instances. One is " wahalur for ladies wey no get big ass "
This was twitted by a big-booty lady.

Purple, i remember when you and I disagreed on a post, when i was using my previous moniker. You still seem to have that gentile disposition and calmness. Admirable...from a distance, though.
Been a while i have viewed your artworks. I should have a look. Let me dig out old posts. I've drawn some new stuff too. I'll share it with you sometime soon.

Pastor we are living in hell already,as long as West Africa is concerned.
Only few of us will live to tell.

Acekidc4:


Have you ever heard of the word Allegory🤔🤔

..yes I have heard...which means you are saying Bible is just a story book..or heaven and hell fire is just a story

PaulOtl:

Oh, my gosh!
I just love, love, love this!
By extension, it means i love the writer of this down-to-earth piece. Many women cannot humble themselves to pen down what you have just submitted as a major reason for the insecurities amongst our women.
🔥
But allow me to add...mem aren't the only culprits here. Women also 'pepper ' amd make fellow women feel inferior and less desirable if they have small buttocks.
I've seen many instances. One is " wahalur for ladies wey no get big ass "
This was twitted by a big-booty lady.

Purple, i remember whennyou and i disagreed on a post, when i was using my previous moniker. You still seem to have that gentile disposition and calmness. Admirable...from a distance, though.
Been a while i viewed yoir you artworks. I should have a look. Let me dig out old posts. I've drawn some new stuff too. I'll share it with you sometime soon.

Hi Paul ☺️

Women do 'pepper' each other. I don't know which is worse.

You said you drew some new stuff? Please share! I need to join a drawing class, I'm just not okay with my drawing level now.

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense reasoning!

It's only inferiority complex will compel someone to do such which means lowest self esteem from someone with Nonsense Reasoning

Acekidc4:
Wetin consign God with whether you enlarge your booty or boobs. Na your Heart him dey after!!

But sorry to bust your bubble, There is nothing like Physical Heaven or Hell fire. They are all Religion False construct to enslave and Control your Mind.

Devil's philosophy