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Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by MrGlobe(m): 4:45pm On Oct 18, 2011
Obviously, this is not getting a lot of interest here but this issue is beginning to be taken seriously. Black republican candidate Harman Cain - the pizza lord might be facing up with Obama in The presidential election. The republicans are trying at all cost to get back the white house and they have planted this dude to do the dirty job so the Presidential election will be Black on Black.
People took this as a joke initially but stuff is getting bigger than it looks. This dude i[b]s leading obama in a recent poll that was conducted.[/b]
Now here is the twist and the reason why I dislike this man, he is proposing a 9-9-9 tax plan. Now flip that upside down and what do you get? 666!!!! And he did not come up with this plan, it was given to him according to reports. These people are bent on taking over the world and I hear the billionaires in America are rooting for this guy hard. hmmmm
Say the conspiracy
Read more http://news.yahoo.com/herman-cain-serious-094900704.html

Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by Nobody: 6:33pm On Oct 18, 2011
He has nothing to offer but his 999 plan A) that was given to him by the Koch brothers AND B) of which he cannot explain the details.

Americans love hysteria. Right now everyone's crazy about Herman Cain, so he's leading in polls. A few weeks ago it was Rick Perry, and Rick Perry was leading in some. Initially it was Michele Bachmann and she's nowhere in the polls now. Wait for things to settle. If Herman Cain does become the nominee, President Obama will shred him in the debates because he knows nothing except for reviving pizza chains, his 999 plan, and telling bad jokes.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by MrGlobe(m): 8:00pm On Oct 18, 2011
Hahaha, These satanists are busy projecting their agendas. They withdrew support from Rick Perry because he was against social security, now cain is more like a puppet. Saying all sorts of rubbish again blacks. I just hope obama is successful with getting mrs clinton as vp. That will shut this whole debacle down. As for gop ticket, i think these satanists will leave it with cain. Election in less than 3 months and he is getting all the shine
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by TayoD1(m): 11:28pm On Oct 18, 2011
@Ogugua88,

You come across to me as a likable person.  What frustrates me however is that the few times I have read your posts here, it smirks of both naivety and/or a poor grasp of the facts.

Saying Cain cannot hold his own against Obama is one of the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.  Cain is a more informed person who has a grasp of real world issues than Obama could ever know.  I am inclined now to throw my support behind the guy, and his lecturing of Clinton a few years back convinced me that he will stand up to anybody with facts and figures.  Please take some few minutes and watch Cain lecture Bill Clinton in the video below.

http://youtu.be/-WP5dYfBBzU
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by aloyemeka1: 11:51pm On Oct 18, 2011
Same Cain who said he is not African American rather, he is black American because unlike Obama, he hjas nothing in common with Africa. All these hurtful words were said because he wants division among black votes. AA's will have to reconsider their allegiance to Obama who is not actually a descendant of slave.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by TayoD1(m): 11:56pm On Oct 18, 2011
@aloy/emeka,

Same Cain who said he is not African American rather, he is black American
I am not here to defend Cain but there is a school of thought here in the US that does not like hyphenating people's Americanness.  In other words, there shouldn't be African-Americans, Chilean-Americans, European-Americasn, Arab-Americans etc. There should only be Americans, Period!  Hyphenating it suggests dual allegiance and promotes discord and not unity.

If indeed Cain said that, then I suppose he agrees with that school of thought!
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by TayoD1(m): 1:05am On Oct 19, 2011
The Republican CNN debate is about to start.  I am glued to the TV.

Introducing Michelle Bachman, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, Herman Cain (he is getting the loudest ovation so far), Ron Paul and Rick Santorium.

The US National Anthem - The Star Spangled Banner.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by TayoD1(m): 1:12am On Oct 19, 2011
Newt throws the first punch at Obama tonight.  He introduces himself by saying unlike President Obama, he is glad to be in Las Vegas and thinks it is a good place for conventions and business visits.

Cain as expected, is under attack over the 9-9-9 plan!
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by BlackLibya: 1:56am On Oct 19, 2011
You look at this forum and you can see what is wrong with Nigeria. Unlike in Nigeria, in the United States you can easily go to places like :

Vote Smart www.votesmart.org

Open Secrets www.opensecrets.org

and the FEC http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/disclosure_data_search.shtml

In order to look at candidate positions, voting records and most importantly CAMPAIGN FINANCING, not to mention the numerous independent blogs that watch candidates for flip flops, but all you guys do is take at face value what the media says. The same media that tells you the rebels are bringing peace and love to everywhere in Libya. In fact, you could even just go to wikipedia and figure out that there are 17 other candidates besides Obama and the Republicans in the race.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by BootyOnMe: 2:06am On Oct 19, 2011
Nothing black in the white house please!
NEVER AGAIN!!!!! cry
Obama MUST go!!!!
Mitt Romney for PRESIDO!!!!! cool

I will vote for Romney!!!!!! cool
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by BlackLibya: 2:12am On Oct 19, 2011
Nothing black in the white house please!

I feel sad for whoever that is in ur profile that u are using their picture.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by BootyOnMe: 4:08am On Oct 19, 2011
BlackLibya:

I feel sad for whoever that is in your profile that u are using their picture.

LOL!!!!!
LWANNOKILLYMOID!!!!!
grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

I beg make I go shyte sweet beta shyte!

Back to CNN please. cool
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by TayoD1(m): 5:09am On Oct 19, 2011
@topic,

Apparently, Cain's got jokes and some great voice too.  Check out his "Imagine there's no pizza" video:

http://youtu.be/-DrSEyjBj1w
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by Nobody: 6:47am On Oct 19, 2011
Tayo-D:
@Ogugua88,

You come across to me as a likable person.  What frustrates me however is that the few times I have read your posts here, it smirks of both naivety and/or a poor grasp of the facts.

Saying Cain cannot hold his own against Obama is one of the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.  Cain is a more informed person who has a grasp of real world issues than Obama could ever know.  I am inclined now to throw my support behind the guy, and his lecturing of Clinton a few years back convinced me that he will stand up to anybody with facts and figures.  Please take some few minutes and watch Cain lecture Bill Clinton in the video below.

http://youtu.be/-WP5dYfBBzU

Cain is informed? Are you sure? This is the same guy who calls himself a political virgin, yet he's been working for lobbyists for the last six years. Members of that same lobby group make up his campaign staff. These are details he has left out of his own biography on his website. This weekend there was some kind of function for the republican candidates. All went, except for Cain. He went to speak at one of his lobbyist events. Read about AFP, Americans For Profit. If you disagree with them, then you disagree with Cain as he's representing them.

How many times was he asked for details of his tax plan? Or whenever other candidates would ask for verification of his plans, what was his response? "You're comparing apples and oranges. I'm trying to fix oranges". That's his best explanation of his 999 plan.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by MrGlobe(m): 7:18am On Oct 19, 2011
The Black America he is talking about does not support him. He is only a puppet. At the end of the day either the repulblican does not pull out support from him and allow him fall like a pack of cards like they did Mitt and Rick or they allow him to go on and get beaten black and blue by Obama
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by Nobody: 7:34am On Oct 19, 2011
Did you notice when Cain was asked something he knew little about, he agreed with Romney? Lol.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by montelik(m): 12:06pm On Oct 19, 2011
Mr. Globe:

The Black America he is talking about does not support him. He is only a puppet. At the end of the day either the repulblican does not pull out support from him and allow him fall like a pack of cards like they did Mitt and Rick or they allow him to go on and get beaten black and blue by Obama

I doubt it, Obama's poll numbers suggest he wouldn't even be able to beat Michelle black and blue grin (bad joke, I apologize wink), not to talk of his political opponents. I think he will most certainly be re-elected but it will be close whomever emerges from d present challengers (G.W Bush 2000 & 2004 close).
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by MrGlobe(m): 1:10pm On Oct 19, 2011
I tell you, the gop has not gotten that candidate that will beat obama. What is happening now is all noise. Mitt has the mormon stuff working against him, Perry lost the support of the high and mighty because of his stand on social security and he barely can take care of his state. For cain, no comment. I know when the time comes they'll dig up something against dude. Even republicans know they have not gotten that candidate yet. Obama will be re-elected
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by martinosi: 3:20pm On Oct 19, 2011
Cain is only be fronted because their is presently a Black Person presently in the white house !
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by BootyOnMe: 3:41pm On Oct 19, 2011
That 'black card' trick will not work this time!
White House for white folk only!!!
Obama is a one-term presido!!!
Goodluck Jonathan of USA!!!
Thank God Michelle nor be "Okrika" First Lady!!!!

Kai!!!! cry
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by Nobody: 5:37pm On Oct 19, 2011
martinosi:
Cain is only be fronted because their is presently a Black Person presently in the white house !

Correct, but we all know what happened to Michael Steele lol. Cain may suffer that same fate.

Perry was so desperate. I couldn't believe he brought up that illegal immigrant issue involving Romney. That was yonks ago. He's done.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by BlackLibya: 8:47pm On Oct 19, 2011
Nobody wants to comment on my post eh? I guess looking up the information would reveal that both Obama and the republicans are largely funded by the same industries, support only slightly divergent positions, and are members of the same councils, or have ties to organizations that are in ideological step with said councils.

That just doesnt make for an exciting conversation to know that Obama the African saviour is making the country worst, or that any of the great white hopes(or the dark trojan horse cain) will not do anything to make it any better.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by Nobody: 9:57pm On Oct 19, 2011
What is there to comment? We're discussing who's relevant. Sure, we could turn our attention to someone like John Huntsman, or others who have less than 1% of the vote, but why? When we already know they won't be the final choices taken into consideration?

I do wonder how Obama is making the country worse. You'll have to explain that one to me.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by BlackLibya: 10:20pm On Oct 19, 2011
What is there to comment? We're discussing who's relevant. Sure, we could turn our attention to someone like John Huntsman, or others who have less than 1% of the vote, but why? When we already know they won't be the final choices taken into consideration?

I'm sorry, I forgot that voting was a game where the goal is to "win". I thought it was to vote for someone who will represent you accordingly in office.

Let me ask you then:

Do you support the invasion of Libya at the behest of the French?

Do you support the bombing of black libyans trying to defend themselves from racist terrorists?

Did you support the installation of Gbagbo at behest of the French?

Do you support AFRICOM?

Did you support the bailing out of the banks?

Do you support paying a subsidy to insurance companies, and then paying full price for insurance?

Do you support the war in iraq?

do you support the war in afghanistan?

do you support war with iran?

do you support extra-judicial killing of american citizens who have not been tried in court?

Do you support not addressing drug law reform?

Do you support not addressing prison reform?

Do you support not addressing any issues related to black people because the president is not just for one group of people?

Would you then still support the DREAM Act and "Dont Ask, Dont Tell" being repealed even though those are for specific people?


Thank you for answering. Yes or no answers please.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by martinosi: 3:34pm On Oct 21, 2011
BlackLibya:

I'm sorry, I forgot that voting was a game where the goal is to "win". I thought it was to vote for someone who will represent you accordingly in office.

Let me ask you then:

Do you support the invasion of Libya at the behest of the French?

Do you support the bombing of black libyans trying to defend themselves from racist terrorists?

Did you support the installation of Gbagbo at behest of the French?

Do you support AFRICOM?

Did you support the bailing out of the banks?

Do you support paying a subsidy to insurance companies, and then paying full price for insurance?

Do you support the war in iraq?

do you support the war in afghanistan?

do you support war with iran?

do you support extra-judicial killing of american citizens who have not been tried in court?

Do you support not addressing drug law reform?

Do you support not addressing prison reform?

Do you support not addressing any issues related to black people because the president is not just for one group of people?

Would you then still support the DREAM Act and "Dont Ask, Dont Tell" being repealed even though those are for specific people?


Thank you for answering. Yes or no answers please.


CO-SIGN the point you are stressing, here is an additional video to back it up
i found this guy online this gentleman is really on point with his view and info

Dr Johnson on President Obama

[flash=200,200]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWynOFVsXFk&feature=related[/flash]
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by thameamead(f): 12:29pm On Nov 02, 2011
Cain is a puppet to the Koch Brothers, he's a joke, Obama has bn a dissappointment, i see him as a one-term president, he's made lots of mistakes, the Koch Brothers want to rule the world so whoever the Republican nomines is will have to answer to them
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by Amhatu(m): 9:43pm On Nov 02, 2011
@Mr. Globe, You probably would get a better response in a American forum. Africans no very little about these American people.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by Nobody: 11:51pm On Nov 02, 2011
BlackLibya:
I'm sorry, I forgot that voting was a game where the goal is to "win". I thought it was to vote for someone who will represent you accordingly in office.

No. That's not how I vote. If so, then I would've been giving my votes to Denis Kucinich. Although he represents my beliefs more accurately than President Obama, I voted for Obama because he will represent myself as well as the majority of the United States accordingly in office. It's a two-party system for the time being.
Re: Black Republican Candidate Herman Cain Vs Obama In The Presidential Election by AfroBlue(m): 12:12am On Nov 03, 2011
hot off the news wire


Third worker says Cain harassed; campaign denies




By JACK GILLUM and STEPHEN OHLEMACHER



A third former employee considered filing a workplace complaint against Herman Cain over what she deemed aggressive and unwanted behavior when she and Cain, now a Republican presidential candidate, worked together during the late 1990s, the woman told The Associated Press on Wednesday. She said the behavior included a private invitation to his corporate apartment.
The woman said he made sexually suggestive remarks or gestures about the same time that two co-workers had settled separate harassment complaints against Cain, who was then the head of the National Restaurant Association.

Cain's campaign denied anew that he'd done anything wrong, decried a "smear campaign" as he is riding high in opinion polls and accused rival Rick Perry's operation of being behind the original stories.

Perry's campaign denied any involvement - and suggested the campaign of yet another candidate, Mitt Romney, might be a source.

A woman interviewed several times by the AP said she did not file a formal complaint against Cain because she began having fewer interactions with him. Later, she learned that a co-worker - one of the two women whose accusations have rocked Cain's campaign this week - had already done so. She said she would have felt she had to file otherwise.

The woman spoke only on condition of anonymity, saying she feared losing her current job and the possibility of damage to her reputation. She was located and approached by the AP as part of its investigation into harassment complaints against Cain that were disclosed in recent days and have thrown his presidential campaign into turmoil. She said she was reluctant to describe the encounters she had with Cain when they worked together at the Washington-based restaurant trade group.

The employee described in conversations with the AP over several days situations in which she said Cain told her that he had confided to colleagues how attractive she was and invited her to his corporate apartment outside work.

His actions "were inappropriate, and it made me feel uncomfortable," she said.

The AP confirmed that the employee worked at the restaurant association with Cain during the period in question, that she has no party affiliation in her voter registration in the past decade and is not identified as a donor in federal campaigns or local political campaigns. Records show she was registered as a Democrat at one point previously.

Asked for comment about the accusations, including the most recent, Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon said, "Mr. Cain has said over the past two days at public events that we could see other baseless allegations made against him as this appalling smear campaign continues." Gordon added, "He has never acted in the way alleged by inside-the-Beltway media, and his distinguished record over 40 years spent climbing the corporate ladder speaks for itself."

Later campaign manager Mark Block alleged that Texas Gov. Perry's campaign was behind the original stories on the two women and demanded an apology.

Denying any involvement, Perry spokesman Ray Sullivan says the Texan's campaign learned of the allegations when Politico first published a story late Sunday evening.

Cain himself, in an interview with Forbes, said he believed a Perry consultant gave information about the allegations to Politico.

Cain said he outlined the allegations of a woman to the consultant, Curt Anderson, when Anderson was helping him on an earlier campaign.

Anderson said in a statement to AP: "I was one of several consultants on his Senate race in 2004 and was proud to help him. I never heard any of these allegations until I read about them in Politico, nor does anything I read in the press change my opinion that Herman is an upstanding man and a gentleman"

Perry's campaign pointed to former Massachusetts Gov. Romney's operation as a possible source of the Politico story. "There are real ties between Romney campaign backers and Mr. Cain and the National Restaurant Association," Sullivan said.

Meanwhile, another woman who worked with Cain at the restaurant association, said, "I found him to be a good boss." Christina Howard, a former lobbyist for the association, said, "I felt no problem going into his office and asking for his advice."

She said she didn't recall allegations about Cain during his tenure and added, "I'd roll my eyes at anyone who would make that allegation."

Though trying to project an image of campaign business as usual, Cain appeared frazzled at times Wednesday and couldn't escape the questions that have dogged him since a published report Sunday night that at least two women had complained about his behavior while at the restaurant association and had been given financial settlements. The controversy has arisen two months before the leadoff Iowa caucuses and as polls show Cain at the head of the GOP field alongside former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

As the day began, Cain said, "There are factions that are trying to destroy me personally, as well as this campaign." He didn't say to whom he was referring, but he said "the voice of the people" is stronger.

Cain was supposed to take questions after a speech to health care professionals, but he ultimately refused and left the hotel through a back door.

"I'm here to visit with these doctors, and that's what I'm going to talk about, so don't even bother asking me all of these other questions that you all are curious about, OK? Don't even bother," a testy Cain told a throng of reporters.

When pressed about the week's previous allegations, Cain raised his voice and said "What did I say? Excuse me. Excuse me!" as hotel security led him through a hallway jammed with journalists in a Washington suburb. "What part of 'no' don't people understand?"

Meanwhile, another of Cain's accusers appeared increasingly reluctant to speak publicly, though her lawyer took the first steps for her to do so. Attorney Joel P. Bennett contacted the association on Wednesday and asked it to release his client from the confidentiality arrangement she had agreed to so that she could talk openly about her allegations and respond to Cain's assertion that her complaints were "totally baseless and totally false."

Cain has declined to say whether he will ask his former employer to terminate confidentiality restrictions on the two women who accused him of sexual harassment in the 1990s while he was head of the trade group. Cain campaign manager Block said the campaign would address that question "when it's appropriate."

Sue Hensley, a restaurant association spokeswoman, confirmed that Bennett contacted the trade group and was told to contact its outside counsel. Hensley said Bennett expected to meet with his client and make the request on Thursday.

Confidentiality agreements that commit both sides to silence are common in financial settlements of an employee's sexual harassment claims, lawyers for management and employees said. Violating such an agreement can lead to a complaint in court and an order to pay damages, or at least the other side's attorney's fees, said Sarah Pierce Wimberly, a partner in the Atlanta office of the Ford and Harrison law firm.

But when the silence is broken, it's often hard to find the source of the leak, said Robert Kelner, a partner in the Covington and Burling firm's Washington office. He said, "The truth is, when parties enter into these confidentiality agreements around a settlement, they usually understand that there is less than 100 percent certainty that the information is truly going to remain confidential."

It's not clear if Cain himself was part of the settlement or whether it just involved the association and the woman. But he almost certainly would be bound by it, as the association's former president.

Over the past two days, Cain has acknowledged he knew of one agreement between the restaurant association and a woman who accused him of sexual harassment. He has said the woman initially asked for a large financial settlement but ultimately received two to three months' pay as part of a separation agreement. Cain also acknowledged remembering one of the woman's accusations against him, saying he stepped close to her to make a reference to her height and told her she was the same height as his wife.

He has said he is not aware of agreements or settlements with any other women, though Politico - which first disclosed the allegations - reported that the trade group had given settlements to at least two female employees who accused him of inappropriate sexual behavior.

In media interviews since the story broke Sunday, Cain has offered conflicting accounts of what happened during his tenure at the trade group in Washington. He later acknowledged knowing about one settlement but said he did not know how much was paid. The New York Times reported Tuesday that one payout was $35,000, equivalent to one year's salary for one of the women.

The pressure on Cain only increased when a pillar of the GOP establishment suggested that the Georgia businessman should ask the association to waive the confidentiality agreements so that the woman can talk openly about her allegations.

"What are the facts?" asked Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour on MSNBC. "If you have a confidentiality agreement that keeps the public from finding out something that the public is interested in knowing the facts, you ought to go on and get the facts out."

"Herman Cain's interest is getting this behind him," added Barbour, a former Republican National Committee chairman.

A former talk show host, Cain is a self-styled political outsider who has attracted tea party support and, up until now, has weathered a series of stumbles that have many GOP luminaries questioning his ability to run a viable campaign much less win the party's nomination. Conversely, Romney is running his second national campaign and has spent the past few weeks shoring up support among the GOP establishment for a nomination fight many Republican insiders think is his to lose.

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Associated Press writers Kasie Hunt, Brett Blackledge and Mark Sherman in Washington and news researcher Judy Ausuebel in New York contributed to this report.

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