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Book Of Exodus — NLT (story Of Moses and Isreal journey out of Egypt) / Exodus 20: Honor–summarizing The 10 Commandments / Interpretation Of Exodus 20:5-6, 'thou Shall Not Bow Down Unto Any Othe God' (2) (3) (4)
|I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Bestbrain123(m): 6:37pm On Sep 21|
yes good explaination From catholic believers cuz i don't understand there practice as a christian church.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Kobojunkie: 6:42pm On Sep 21|
Bestbrain123:The foundation of what you call your Christian church today was laid by the Catholic Church. Many of the same doctrines and traditions you hold to this day in your churches were "invented" by the Catholic Church so if you think your doctrines and traditions are somehow better than those even now practiced in the Catholic Church in terms of relevance to Scripture, you are simply being absurd.
Christianity (Catholism included) is a religion of men, founded on the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned were lies that were against Him.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Bestbrain123(m): 6:48pm On Sep 21|
Talking about statue worship
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Kobojunkie: 6:52pm On Sep 21|
Bestbrain123:Whether na statue worship or na gods of men worship, all na the same, of the doctrines and traditions of men. Jesus Christ made clear that the doctrines and traditions of men -- Religion --- were lies stacked up against the Truth of God. His Word and decree has not changed in this regard and never will.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by sonmvayina(m): 6:53pm On Sep 21|
Judaism and Christianity are two different religions...Those laws was written by the Israelites for their national religion called Judaism..
Christianity is a foreign ideology to Judaism and originated out of Egypt as the worship of Serapis Christos.
Early Christian thought was that the God of the Jews cannot be the real God and the father of the logos.
As Constantine wanted a single religion for his empire, he added his now created Catholic church, with it's Greek/Roman ideology at the back of Jewish scripture ( probably to give the new religion more credibility) and force the Jews to accept it....
Then the rest is history...
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Bestbrain123(m): 6:58pm On Sep 21|
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Kobojunkie: 7:00pm On Sep 21|
God disavowed Judaism and its many antics since even before the return of the exiles from Babylon. He made this bold in Ezekiel 34 where He fired all His former shepherds declaring that He alone will shepherd His sheep. The prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, even Malachi , among others, re-echoed the same message from the Almighty.
God never gave men Religion. What He instead gave them was His law to live by -- Obey with all of their hearts, mind, body, and soul. Men took to creating Religion ---- Judaism, Christianity, etc.-- in order to grant themselves god status, set themselves between God and their fellow man. But those who subscribe to Religion only set themselves against God since they use His name to carry out that which is not of Him.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Bestbrain123(m): 7:02pm On Sep 21|
Easy guy..! We are not fighting don't know if there you're from or what.? all i am asking for is explanation of a verse from a catholic believer, yea i want to know there view on that verse simple.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by IamANigerianMan: 7:30pm On Sep 21|
Bestbrain123:I am not a Catholic but I will answer, if am not a Dunamite today I will join Catholic... I think I have seen a lot of conspiracy against Catholic church but the church never sake one day after 2000 years , Now back to your question explanation of Ex 20:4-5
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
-- Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
-- Exodus 20:5[/color]
MY COUNSEL before answer your questions[color=#990000]
1. Whenever you are reading the Bible before you understand try to read the pre-text and the post-text
2. Let the holy Spirit the author give you the interpretation 2Tim 3:16
3. What you seen in the Bible is tip of an icebag to what God is.. No man can explain God, you can only explain God by revelation Gal 2:2
The above is my consel for you.
Answer: Does Catholic worship image? No, this is the imagination of some people and some preachers use this to get catholic members into their church, No church as far as the world concern today has knowledge of the scripture than catholic priest not even your pastors.
If you read this Exodus 20:4-5 which is your anchor scripture, it never collaborate catholic as worshippers of image.. READ THE PRE-TEXT , the Israelites has their own gods which they worship even when God sent Moses , Moses asked God what shall he tell them? God told Moses tell them " I am that I am that sent you" , catholic can never believe in another gods, this Christianity we are enjoying today it was catholic church that stood in the defense of the faith, most of this books writing by Alukoya of MFM about Catholic church are negative perception about Catholic church , people should stop read this kind of book. I have a lot but time will failed me... STOP DISCREDIT OTHER BECAUSE OF THE NAME OF THEIR CHURCH, catholic, Anglican things are the same but why catholic church everyday while not talk of Anglican and .. The different is that their own priest marries..1Cor 13:1, 1Jn4:78-9, 20 should be your priority not either catholic is worshiping image. I pray your hate for catholic church doest not take you to hell.. HELL is real and HEAVEN is real.
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|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Bestbrain123(m): 8:06pm On Sep 21|
Surely you must be a funny person.. Who said i hate catholic. (you know most of them, when i ask them they said, they honour their saint with such act...
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Kobojunkie: 8:11pm On Sep 21|
IamANigerianMan:And this stands as a clear testament to the gibberish that is the doctrines and traditions of men. Saying so much yet saying absolutely nothing of God's Truth.
Here's a direct question for you to respond to, if you are able to. Did this Holy Spirit who you erroneously claim by way of Paul's statement in 2 Timothy 3 vs 16 inform you that it matters how long an earthly establishment has survived or how much or how long it has fought for its supposed cause in understanding the meaning of the content of Scripture, in this case, the content of the Old Law of Moses commandment highlighted by the OP?
The religion of Judaism, for instance, is about 2500 years old — recorded from even the time of the exile of the Jews in the land of Babylon— yet that didn't change God's stance against it, nor did it stop God from disavowing them and their establishment. So what makes you think that because your catholic church is old, it must be of God or have to do with God?
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by IamANigerianMan: 10:03pm On Sep 21|
Don't confuse yourself God cannot be explained, You can only explain God by revelation, why some people believe don't in your God is trying to explain God.. The question like who created God? Try to explain to people that mary was conceive of the holy spirit e.t.c, OP try to condemn catholic church is nonsense, some church today don't do baptism and while others is number one thing.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Kobojunkie: 10:17pm On Sep 21|
IamANigerianMan:Op, you see what religion has done to the minds of individuals? I asked a simply question regarding claims he made and here he is yapping away again, this time about explaining God as though God has ever needed explaining.
2. God never gave men religion to begin with so none of your religious establishments has any association to God or His Word.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Bestbrain123(m): 3:54pm On Sep 22|
if not religion Then how do you think this God thing come about..? STILL Idolatry
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Kobojunkie: 3:59pm On Sep 22|
Bestbrain123:Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, David, Isaac, John the Baptist... these are people who never had religion. They all abandoned their egos to serve God directly by obeying His Law to them. God never gave men religion. What He gave was His Law and a warning that no man place himself between God and His Law. Religion places itself between God and His Law and that is against God.
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Bestbrain123(m): 4:10pm On Sep 22|
Sometimes you forget that obeying some biblical rituals without going to any church already made you a religious person.. And the way you display it marks the law you abide on. Wheather moses law or Jesus law.. LAW MUST BE ACCOMPANIED WITH PRINCIPLES
|Re: I Need More Explaination Of Exodus 20:4-5 by Kobojunkie: 4:56pm On Sep 22|
Bestbrain123:1. What you just said makes no sense of any kind. God never commanded your churches to begin with so how can obeying God's Law have anything to do with your church attendance which you do unto your pastors and mogs who command them of you? What makes you a religious person is obedience to the doctrines and traditions of men —your mogs and pastors included — this, again, is what God warned you against.
2. Again, what you said here makes no sense.
A Law is comprised of a set of principles— commandments, teachings, statutes—to live by. God sent Jesus Christ to give you a Law to live by and this is comprised of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ — God's Truth and Gospel in the Kingdom of God. To abide in Jesus Christ means to trust in and obey every teaching and commandment of Jesus Christ, God's Law in the Kingdom of God.
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