MaxInDHouse:



So when the Roman Government ordered their soldiers to go and exterminate all Jews
Cornelius will gladly carry his weapons to go and kill Christ's apostles in Jerusalem shey?

You will know the truth and the truth will set you free! John 8:32

That is if only you're willing to be free from lies of false religions!

Now is your turn to start chasing him

So when the Roman Government ordered their soldiers to go and exterminate all Jews Cornelius will gladly carry his weapons to go and kill Christ's apostles in Jerusalem shey?

You are still asking question based on your madness and insanities peddling.

You will know the truth and the truth will set you free! John 8:32

The truth that God's will is in Isaiah and Micah ahead of what the person who said what was recorded in John 8:32

That is if only you're willing to be free from lies of false religions

Lies of true religion that God's will is Isaiah and Micah ahead of Jesus words in John 6:40

Porksupplyib:


Smiles. That is the mistake you make.
The early church comprised of people who lived their lives as we all do now. They had business men, artisans etc.and. Yes they must have had soldiers and government officials in their midst.

Yes some of them were missionaries who moved around like Paul, but many were workers, just like you and I.

When you say Christians cannot participate in any government and MUST remain neutral in everyway, I hope u understand that anyone doing government job will contravene that stand?😆

Now what does the bible say about christians obeying authorities?
Let me help u.

In Titus 3:1

Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,

In Roman 13

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same.

I can go on and On. Do you see that even as. A Christian you are obliged to serve and obey ruling authorities wherevvr you aware?

These were admonitions of Paul. I hope you don't consider them irrelevant😆

I specifically said politics and military services. Christians will definitely work and do business.

Where is the love when a Christian brother from Russia is killing another brother from Ukraine based on the commands of two immortal humans?

Study through the new testament again and you'd clearly see the modulus operandi of the early church.
Not engaging in politics and military services are some of the ways they are not part of this world.

Of course, we must be subject to authorities, you don't understand what that means?

If Nigeria legalized gay rights and transgenderism today, does that mean Christians should engage in the mad practices because the government legalized it?

What Paul taught is the same as what Jesus taught about "giving to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what's God's".
As a good citizen, you must pay the tax, be a law abiding citizen, perform your duties and obligations etc.
God's will must definitely be the priority for a Christian.

MaxInDHouse:


Only sin against Holy Spirit is unforgivable! Matthew 12:31-32

If only you're willing to learn!

Àá ń wírú ò ń wìrù

cornelboy:

Àá ń wírú ò ń wìrù

Èrò wọn ni wípé ẹni pípé ni gbogbo àwọn krístẹ́nì àkọ́kọ́. Nítorí náà wọ́n gbàgbọ́ pé kò sí àwọn ènìyàn pípé bẹ́ẹ̀ mọ́ lónìí.

cornelboy:

I specifically say politics and military services. Christians will definitely work and do business.
Where is the love when a Christian brother from Russia is killing another brother from Ukraine based on the commands of two immortal humans? Study through the new testament again and you'd clear see the modulus operandi of the early church. Not engaging in politics and military services are one the ways there are not part of this world. Of course, we must be subject to authorities, you don't understand what that means? If Nigeria legalized gay rights and transgenderism today, does that mean Christians should engage in the mad practices because the government legalized it?
What Paul taught is the same as what Jesus taught about "giving to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what's God's". As a good citizen, you must pay the tax, be a law abiding citizen, perform your duties and obligations etc.
God's will must definitely be the priority for a Christian.

To him it's the way they're making noise in the streets, broadways and public buses that is preaching when Jesus specifically commanded his disciples to go and meet people in their homes like begging people to listen and know what the Christ taught.
How will that be possible if you're a politician or military officer in your neighbourhood?
They don't really understand why it's so easy to pick on everything JWs does, is it not because we have to go and plead with people in their homes that makes us different?
Can they welcome a military man who goes about with guns in their homes even though he has changed to casual dress or politicians who are depriving them of necessities of life be welcome as preachers in their homes?

Ọmọ i always thank Jehovah's Witnesses for all they have taught me o!

cornelboy:

I specifically say politics and military services. Christians will definitely work and do business.

Where is the love when a Christian brother from Russia is killing another brother from Ukraine based on the commands of two immortal humans?

Study through the new testament again and you'd clear see the modulus operandi of the early church.
Not engaging in politics and military services are one the ways there are not part of this world.

Of course, we must be subject to authorities, you don't understand what that means?

If Nigeria legalized gay rights and transgenderism today, does that mean Christians should engage in the mad practices because the government legalized it?

What Paul taught is the same as what Jesus taught about "giving to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what's God's".
As a good citizen, you must pay the tax, be a law abiding citizen, perform your duties and obligations etc.
God's will must definitely be the priority for a Christian.

You're showing evidence of true wisdom

Now, on the highlighted
Many religion called Christian are embracing homosexuality
Even here in Nigeria, where it is generally frowned at, people still practice it
Churches are now becoming a place for hookups even for these people
I still feel pain seeing and hearing what is happening in churches

I tell people, you can't claim to be a Christian and say homosexuality is bad and you follow such celebs even on social media... Bobrisky and James Brown are now followed by hundreds of thousands and many claim to be Christian and say such is bad


I also want to add that, Cornelius could not have continued serving in the army after he received holy spirit and got baptized... Many churchgoers use that example... He was a army man does now mean he continued to remain there

On a whole, your comments was brilliant. Powerful witness

Aemmyjah:


You're showing evidence of true wisdom

Now, on the highlighted
Many religion called Christian are embracing homosexuality
Even here in Nigeria, where it is generally frowned at, people still practice it
Churches are now becoming a place for hookups even for these people
I still feel pain seeing and hearing what is happening in churches

I tell people, you can't claim to be a Christian and say homosexuality is bad and you follow such celebs even on social media... Bobrisky and James Brown are now followed by hundreds of thousands and many claim to be Christian and say such is bad


I also want to add that, Cornelius could not have continued serving in the army after he received holy spirit and got baptized... Many churchgoers use that example... He was a army man does now mean he continued to remain there

On a whole, your comments was brilliant. Powerful witness

You think we are dealing with that your speculations and assumptions filled doctrines packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains

I also want to add that, Cornelius could not have continued serving in the army after he received holy spirit and got baptized... Many churchgoers use that example... He was a army man does now mean he continued to remain there

Show word for word that your e fit be sey e fit be sey is true

I tell people, you can't claim to be a Christian and say homosexuality is bad and you follow such celebs even on social media... Bobrisky and James Brown are now followed by hundreds of thousands and many claim to be Christian and say such is bad

Madness, insanities, hypocrisy filled brains. Your members that don't follow Bobrisky or James brown on social media are already into homosexuality long before the likes of Bobrisky or James brown came into this world. We know your religious organization says it is bad yet members are still caught in such acts

MaxInDHouse:

Èrò wọn ni wípé ẹni pípé ni gbogbo àwọn krístẹ́nì àkọ́kọ́. Nítorí náà wọ́n gbàgbọ́ pé kò sí àwọn ènìyàn pípé bẹ́ẹ̀ mọ́ lónìí.

Will first advance lies and manipulations as foundation to propagate his added lies and manipulations


Wants to save the head of his GODS and members based on imperfections and seek cutting you guys some slack

MaxInDHouse:


To him it's the way they're making noise in the streets, broadways and public buses that is preaching when Jesus specifically commanded his disciples to go and meet people in their homes like begging people to listen and know what the Christ taught.
How will that be possible if you're a politician or military officer in your neighbourhood?
They don't really understand why it's so easy to pick on everything JWs does, is it not because we have to go and plead with people in their homes that makes us different?
Can they welcome a military man who goes about with guns in their homes even though he has changed to casual dress or politicians who are depriving them of necessities of life be welcome as preachers in their homes?

Ọmọ i always thank Jehovah's Witnesses for all they have taught me o!

To him it's the way they're making noise in the streets, broadways and public buses that is preaching when Jesus specifically commanded his disciples to go and meet people in their homes like begging people to listen and know what the Christ taught

When you see a liar and manipulator, you will know

Acts 20:20...... while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from house to house.

What came first?

A. Publicly
B House to house
C. Allow me to peddle my lies and manipulations
D. I divert into something else.

Your Bible even said teaching publicly but your hypocrisy filled brains says it noise making

The sermon on the mount is what?

A. Publicly
B. House to house
C. Allow me peddle lies and manipulations
D. I will avoid apostates

How will that be possible if you're a politician or military officer in your neighbourhood?

To advance your lies and manipulations, you have to lie and manipulate more. The same madness and insanities peddling peddler will tell us churchgoers that are military men filled the churches and killed churchgoers of another country during war.

Oya change mouth and lie again

Can they welcome a military man who goes about with guns in their homes even though he has changed to casual dress or politicians who are depriving them of necessities of life be welcome as preachers in their homes?

Madness and insanities peddling questions as usual. The same person that said they don't have members that carry guns in their midst. While members are still gainfully employed not just as police officers but mobile police and even civil defence e.t.c . You think watchtower will give them food to eat free of charge without working

They don't really understand why it's so easy to pick on everything JWs does, is it not because we have to go and plead with people in their homes that makes us different?

After your lies and manipulations are exposed it becomes they don't understand

cornelboy:

I specifically said politics and military services. Christians will definitely work and do business.

Where is the love when a Christian brother from Russia is killing another brother from Ukraine based on the commands of two immortal humans?

Study through the new testament again and you'd clearly see the modulus operandi of the early church.
Not engaging in politics and military services are some of the ways they are not part of this world.

Of course, we must be subject to authorities, you don't understand what that means?

If Nigeria legalized gay rights and transgenderism today, does that mean Christians should engage in the mad practices because the government legalized it?

What Paul taught is the same as what Jesus taught about "giving to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what's God's".
As a good citizen, you must pay the tax, be a law abiding citizen, perform your duties and obligations etc.
God's will must definitely be the priority for a Christian.

Smiles. Yes you clearly said politics and military service. In fact you said Must not be involved in any form of government.
And I clearly told you that that must include those in civil service.
Cus those in Civil service are definitely involved in supporting the government in power.

That by the way.
I also clearly gave us a whole chapter showing cornelius a soldier who was upright and God for and who became converted to Christianity by Paul and Was baptised with water and the holy spirit. Yet he still remained a soldier and worked for God.

I have shown you a lot. But nevermind I clearly understand the problem

By the grace of God, I have become who I am today, A simple brother of Christ, Not judging, being understanding, not pride filled, not perfect, yet simple and straightforward.

I pray for grace that I should not fall, and not fail, even as I run this race of life.
I see and understand the main issue many of us have. The need to be proven as right, and others as wrong. That is why unending arguments is futile.

This Topic was not created To judge Jehovah witness organization or to show their wrongs or rights. It is however nice that at least I became clear about what you stand for as a sect
You have made ur points about why ONLY YOUR SECT will make heaven. Since according to you only you are doing God's will.
Despite the prove we showed u in John 6:40 that the Will of God is to believe in Jesus and be obedient to his precepts.
You still stand on ur point that the will of God is to fulfil the prophecy in Isaiah 2.
It's alright

You have made your point that a Christian must not join the army of any country. Or be politically involved whatsoever. Despite the fact that we showed u of the life of Cornelius who was a soldier and yet a holy spirit baptised member of the early church. Who was said to be God fearing yet you stand on your point that YOU ARE RIGHT and every other person and sect is WRONG.

That is what I call, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I take no joy in dragging anyone or showing off that I can quote the scriptures. I am only a student by grace of Christ.
We are free to live with our beliefs.
No need for unending arguments. I wish the JW folks well in their lifetime, may your wish come true.

Back to more important aspect of the Topic at hand.

Ken4Christ:


There is nothing absolutely wrong with the message of prosperity. It's with the manner and ways it is presented.

God wants us to to be rich so we can help the poor and promote the gospel. But most people want to be rich so they can achieve their selfish goals.

I will be so rich to the point that I will empower thousands of people. I am not there yet but I know I will get there.

Those are pride themselves in how many jets they have and properties they have without helping the poor have missed it.

Today we will have our talk sir.

Porksupplyib:


Smiles. Yes you clearly said politics and military service. In fact you said Must not be involved in any form of government.
And I clearly told you that that must include those in civil service.
Cus those in Civil service are definitely involved in supporting the government in power.

That by the way.
I also clearly gave us a whole chapter showing cornelius a soldier who was upright and God for and who became converted to Christianity by Paul and Was baptised with water and the holy spirit. Yet he still remained a soldier and worked for God.

I have shown you a lot. But nevermind I clearly understand the problem

No verse says Cornelius remained in the military. I'm quite convinced that after the baptism he didn't go about killing people under the command of the Roman government.

Whatever the interpretation you give to the bolded is none of my concern. What I know is that a true Christian cannot engage in politics and military services.

Is working as a civil servant the same as engaging in politics?

cornelboy:

No verse says Cornelius remained in the military. I'm quite convinced that after the baptism he didn't go about killing people under the command of the Roman government.

Whatever the interpretation you give to the bolded is none of my concern. What I know is that a true Christian cannot engage in politics and military services.

Is working as a civil servant the same as engaging in politics?

He ran away from the question that will expose his unbelief!

He claims Cornelius remains a soldier after his baptism as a born again Christian.

So when the Roman Emperor ordered that all Jews in Jerusalem should be wiped out.

Whose side will Cornelius who is a soldier and at the same time born again Christian be?

Will he tender his resignation or pick up his weapons against Jerusalem the home of his beloved brothers the apostles?

Porksupplyib:


Today we will have our talk sir.

No problem, go ahead. But you will be patient with my possibly slow response because it's a very tight day for me.

cornelboy:

No verse says Cornelius remained in the military. I'm quite convinced that after the baptism he didn't go about killing people under the command of the Roman government.

Whatever the interpretation you give to the bolded is none of my concern. What I know is that a true Christian cannot engage in politics and military services.

Is working as a civil servant the same as engaging in politics?

Yes bro. We already concluded your case.
Please read up.

MaxInDHouse:


He ran away from the question that will expose his unbelief!

He claims Cornelius remains a soldier after his baptism as a born again Christian.

So when the Roman Emperor ordered that all Jews in Jerusalem should be wiped out.

Whose side will Cornelius who is a soldier and at the same time born again Christian be?

Will he tender his resignation or pick up his weapons against Jerusalem the home of his beloved brothers the apostles?

Exactly sir. I ran away. And you won the discussion. That is a beautiful one for me. I already concluded your case. Please read up.
Let's focus on the topic for which the topic was created. I clearly understand you now

No need for endless dragging since Jesus had interactions with The centurion, and other military personnel, and not for once did he preach against their proffession. Paul wrote countless books and Letters and Not for once did he denounce brethren in military profession or instruct them to resign. And they didn't bother to write it that Cornelius resigned from Military service.
We can theereby conclude that you are right. Cus you said so.

You win. Can we have peace now? Only your sect will enter the kingdom of God. Ok

Porksupplyib:


Yes bro. We already concluded your case.
Please read up.

Oh I didn't know that you had a case

Porksupplyib:

Jesus had interactions with The centurion, and other military personnel, and not for once did he preach against their proffession.

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

Perhaps the disciples won't teach the converts what Christ COMMANDED in the above quote! Matthew 28:19-20

cornelboy:

Oh I didn't know what you had a case

He only wanted to know:

Why his country is filled with religious centers all claiming Christians yet there is corruption everywhere.

Surely when Jesus (God's Son who founded Christianity) walked the earth there was nothing like corruption in his own country!

MaxInDHouse:


“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

Perhaps the disciples won't teach the converts what Christ COMMANDED in the above quote! Matthew 28:19-20

Yes you are right.
Jesus commanded his disciples not to fight his captors when he was being arrested to be crucified. That was the Lesson you pick as Don't join the military?
Since of course Jesus forgot to preach the sermon against those serving in the military all through out his years of ministry.

Even Paul and all the Other Apostles forgot to preach the sermon and resound the warning .
Yes you are Right
Very right.

MaxInDHouse:


He only wanted to know:

Why his country is filled with religious centers all claiming Christians yet there is corruption everywhere.

Surely when Jesus (God's Son who founded Christianity) walked the earth there was nothing like corruption in his own country!

Thank you.
He didn't know those in forces are tools in the hands of evil politicians. And as a Christian you'd definitely be forced to do politicians's will instead of God's will.

Common sense will not pass me by in Jesus's name.

MaxInDHouse:


He only wanted to know:

Why his country is filled with religious centers all claiming Christians yet there is corruption everywhere.

Surely when Jesus (God's Son who founded Christianity) walked the earth there was nothing like corruption in his own country!

Oh!
I never knew that. So there was no corruption in government in the time of Jesus?

Now this is more related to the topic at hand.
Please say more.

cornelboy:

Thank you.
He didn't know those in forces are tools in the hands of evil politicians. And as a Christian you'd definitely be forced to do politicians's will instead of God's will.

Common sense will not pass me by in Jesus's name.

A big Amen to your prayer

The Ukrainian and Russian Christian soldiers are currently killing one another. That was the love Jesus preached haha 😂😂

Like I always say sir, the Bible started making a lot of sense to me after reasoning with the JWs.

I swear I started learning new things that I had never learned before. I didn't know what paradise and God's kingdom really mean.

Jehovah God bless the JWs wherever they are

MaxInDHouse:
@Porksupplyib
Are we through with our discussion?

Yes bro. Now we are through. I have gotten all your inputs. It is the very first time I am hearing what you stand for.
Now I understand you perfectly and I see why only your sect will enter the kingdom of God.

Porksupplyib:


Oh!
I never knew that. So there was no corruption in government in the time of Jesus?

Now this is more related to the topic at hand.
Please say more.

You don't even understand what he meant. Of course he's saying that even during Jesus time, there was corruption among the Jews who were ought to be God's people.
So if there was corruption then, what makes you think there wouldn't be corruption now

cornelboy:
The Ukrainian and Russian Christian soldiers are currently killing one another. That was the love Jesus preached haha 😂😂

Like I always say sir, the Bible started making a lot of sense to me after reasoning with the JWs.

I swear I started learning new things that I had never learned before. I didn't know what paradise and God's kingdom really mean.

Jehovah God bless the JWs wherever they are

And the Military and police protecting you from jihadist and assassins who wish to kill you in your sleep too are all sinners too.

You are perfectly right sir.

Porksupplyib:


And the Military and police protecting you from jihadist and assassins who wish to kill you in your sleep too are all sinners too.

You are perfectly right sir.

Lol how did the military and police protect the early church when they were been persecuted and killed everywhere?
God doesn't control the military and police. Politicians controls them and they can order them to kill anybody irrespective of your religion, race or status.

The jihadists and terrorists group you're talking about are all as the result of the politics played by the politicians.
How were the people of Bornu protected in past years?
How many years did it take them to rescue the chibok girls?

Aren't the politicians the same people funding and backing the terrorists sect?

We telling you politicians are evil, true Christians can only stand for God's kingdom and Jesus but you're saying your own.

MaxInDHouse:


He ran away from the question that will expose his unbelief!

He claims Cornelius remains a soldier after his baptism as a born again Christian.

So when the Roman Emperor ordered that all Jews in Jerusalem should be wiped out.

Whose side will Cornelius who is a soldier and at the same time born again Christian be?

Will he tender his resignation or pick up his weapons against Jerusalem the home of his beloved brothers the apostles?

He ran away from the question that will expose his unbelief!

Na only self praise and boasting on your lies and manipulations you sabi. After bursting this your lies again here just like I did on that your innocence and faithful thread, you will lament that apostates are parasites again here too

He claims Cornelius remains a soldier after his baptism as a born again Christian

You are yet to show us your claim that says after baptism cornelius resigned as a soldier

So when the Roman Emperor ordered that all Jews in Jerusalem should be wiped out.

I know your lying and manipulated brains will not remember that the JEWS revolted against the governmental authorities of their day which were the Romans . To first advance your lies you stated...........

Roman Emperor ordered that all Jews in Jerusalem should be wiped out.

They were sent to Jerusalem to quench the revolt and lying and manipulated brains didn't tell you the JEWS resisted ignoring Jesus words to them.....

Now as Jesus was departing from the temple, his disciples approached to show him the buildings of the temple. In response he said to them: “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, by no means will a stone be left here upon a stone and not be thrown down.”

Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains. Let the man on the housetop not come down to take the goods out of his house, and let the man in the field not return to pick up his outer garment. Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! 20 Keep praying that your flight may not occur in wintertime nor on the Sabbath day;

When the Roman emperor send troops to end the Jewish revolts. Cornelius will be in the right to go there because.......

Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God......

For those rulers are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you want to be free of fear of the authority? Keep doing good,+ and you will have praise from it; 4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad.

Whose side will Cornelius who is a soldier and at the same time born again Christian be?

Your lies and manipulations already exposed above. The Christians will by then be far far away from Jerusalem and judea . They are not expected to suffer as unlawful persons

Peter stated....... Do not suffer for murder, theft, or any other crime, nor because you trouble other people

Will he tender his resignation or pick up his weapons against Jerusalem the home of his beloved brothers the apostles?

Madness and insanities peddling questions, he will not tender his resignation will pick up his weapons and do his work as God's ministers described in Romans 13


Cc: Porksupplyib come and see how the madness and insanities peddling start running Helter-skelter to save his heads from lies and manipulations

Porksupplyib:


And the Military and police protecting you from jihadist and assassins who wish to kill you in your sleep too are all sinners too.

You are perfectly right sir.

The madness and insanities peddling belief in self defense oooo.

The only question you need to ask them is, do Ukraine have the right to self defense against the Russian invaders?

See him start lying and manipulating all what they have said since about this matter.