babakb:
Yes!!!
I really want to discomfort Polytechnic students and graduates, I'm a HND Graduate myself so this is not discrimination or bullying

Find a way to obtain a Bachelor's Degree, don't be deceived by the talk of equivalence, If it's not a Degree it isn't.

Polytechnics in Nigeria don't have the capacity to offer studies in Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, Radiography, Law etc

All Full-time Lecturers employed by Polytechnics must at least have BSc & MSc, even the Polytechnic system discriminates against it's graduates.

Going for BSc after HND is not a downgrade, it's just to obtain a Degree because you never had one Going for NYSC or doing PDG doesn't confer you with a Degree, besides with your HND most Private and Public Universities in Nigeria will admit you into 300 level.

COREN doesn't certify HND or PGD graduates until they obtain a Degree.

HND graduates are not eligible for any Federal or State government scholarships for Masters studies.

Attending the best Polytechnics or Graduating with Distinction doesn't change the fact that you don't have a Degree.

Please don't pay for that PGD you're about to do, it's just another Diploma

Of course I know very well that becoming rich or successful is not dependent on Certificates, but my point is if you want to enjoy the Nigerian Formal System, a Bachelor's Degree is a must.

babakb:
Yes!!!
I really want to discomfort Polytechnic students and graduates, I'm a HND Graduate myself so this is not discrimination or bullying

Find a way to obtain a Bachelor's Degree, don't be deceived by the talk of equivalence, If it's not a Degree it isn't.

Polytechnics in Nigeria don't have the capacity to offer studies in Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, Radiography, Law etc

All Full-time Lecturers employed by Polytechnics must at least have BSc & MSc, even the Polytechnic system discriminates against it's graduates.

Going for BSc after HND is not a downgrade, it's just to obtain a Degree because you never had one Going for NYSC or doing PDG doesn't confer you with a Degree, besides with your HND most Private and Public Universities in Nigeria will admit you into 300 level.

COREN doesn't certify HND or PGD graduates until they obtain a Degree.

HND graduates are not eligible for any Federal or State government scholarships for Masters studies.

Attending the best Polytechnics or Graduating with Distinction doesn't change the fact that you don't have a Degree.

Please don't pay for that PGD you're about to do, it's just another Diploma

Of course I know very well that becoming rich or successful is not dependent on Certificates, but my point is if you want to enjoy the Nigerian Formal System, a Bachelor's Degree is a must.

erad:
Ignorance is a disease.
Especially to people who ought to know better.

ihatebuhari:
lol okay sir. I hope your life is better than all HND graduate.

I guess your former president buhari had a first class degree in law from the University of kastina.


I understand your point but this should be directed to the federal government to scrap Polytechnics and make them offer B.Tech just like what the UK did in the 80s


You shouldn't laugh the people obtaining ND or HND results i guess life happened to them.


I lived here in LA for over 8 years, i didn't even attend any tertiary institution in Nigeria but now I've a degree here in Cali


I must tell you Nigeria and Africa is a shithole compared to los Angeles but i would never laugh the people i can only insult the politicians do you know why because after their tenure they run to the western world. So be considerate when addressing HND graduates. Nigeria is already hard, you can push many to depression with your laugh.


I'm tired of this useless forum it's filled with tribal bigots and unintelligent kids like you. Some of us here just want to laugh and have nostalgia about our birth country so be reasonable

ihatebuhari:
lol okay sir. I hope your life is better than all HND graduate.

I guess your former president buhari had a first class degree in law from the University of kastina.


I understand your point but this should be directed to the federal government to scrap Polytechnics and make them offer B.Tech just like what the UK did in the 80s


You shouldn't laugh the people obtaining ND or HND results i guess life happened to them.


I lived here in LA for over 8 years, i didn't even attend any tertiary institution in Nigeria but now I've a degree here in Cali


I must tell you Nigeria and Africa is a shithole compared to los Angeles but i would never laugh the people i can only insult the politicians do you know why because after their tenure they run to the western world. So be considerate when addressing HND graduates. Nigeria is already hard, you can push many to depression with your laugh.


I'm tired of this useless forum it's filled with tribal bigots and unintelligent kids like you. Some of us here just want to laugh and have nostalgia about our birth country so be reasonable

franchasofficia:
Tinubu your current President doesn't even have a verifiable certificate to talk of diploma cum degree.


Kwankwaso is an HND holder.


Olusegun Obasanjo is an HND holder.


Your former President Buhari is also a Diploma holder not a degree holder.



Don't demoralize those with HND because thousands of them end far better than Bsc holders at the end of the day.



You just acquired a Bsc after your HND and feel you have arrived or that you now have the right to shame your fellow HND holders, don't you know that's sign of someone who will not go far in life?

2cul2care:
The way you guys openly display your ignorance, even universities abroad recognize HND, and is accepted for master studies

babakb:


Contrary to your assumption, I'm actually trying to save a generation here, but I need to make them uncomfortable and awaken their minds with a piercing sharp arrow.

Nigerians are too docile to develop themselves

Remember that once you choose Polytechnic Education you have forfeited all STEM professions, You can't even be an Academician.
This is why you a have a generation of unemployable youth in the country.

You can't advance STEM education with the Nigerian Polytechnic system, it's just a SCAM.

It's a lie to say HND Graduates fair better than University graduates in Nigeria, The Medical Doctors, Pharmacists, Radiographers, Nurses, Engineers, Professors, Top Management of Companies, Permanent Secretaries are mostly University Graduates.

Enough of making anyone feel better, Go and get your Degree.

babakb:


Contrary to your assumption, I'm actually trying to save a generation here, but I need to make them uncomfortable and awaken their minds with a piercing sharp arrow.

Nigerians are too docile to develop themselves

Remember that once you choose Polytechnic Education you have forfeited all STEM professions, You can't even be an Academician.
This is why we a have a generation of unemployable youth in the country.

You can't advance STEM education with the Nigerian Polytechnic system, it's just a SCAM.

It's a lie to say HND Graduates fare better than University graduates in Nigeria, The Medical Doctors, Pharmacists, Radiographers, Nurses, Engineers, Professors, Top Management of Companies, Permanent Secretaries are mostly University Graduates.

Enough of making anyone feel better, Go and get your Degree.

franchasofficia:
Now you have made great points which I strongly agree with you, and the more reason Nigerian government needs to change Polytechnic academic structure and stop it at OND.


They need to scrap HND, let the Polytechnic stop at OND.



I understand you better now, but the manner you wrote your first post was dehumanizing and demoralizing to those who already have HND or in the process of obtaining one, which isn't fair to them

babakb:


Intending HND graduates will still face Dehumanization and Demoralization in their future Academic and Professional pursuits anyways

That's why I'm awakening whoever cares to listen to act now, The government will not resolve this issue for you, As a HND Graduate, just look for a Private university nearby and continue with your studies, in 2 years you would have obtained your Degree which is equivalent to any Degree across the world.

Better still, NBTE has introduced a Top Up program to help HND graduates, It's just a year program, If you have the Money do it and eliminate the dark days of being a HND Graduate in Nigeria.

PinkNature:


Only a few will understand. Some even go as far as selling the lie that polytechnic graduates are well grounded in practicals.

Hahaha, a 2.2 university graduate have the probability of getting more pay than the best polytechnic graduate if they're both employed in the same place of work.

NB: I attended a polytechnic, but currently running a university program because I know what's up.

babakb:


We're in the same shoes, I'm currently running a degree program too after many years of HND certificate.

The talk of Practicals is just a self consolation

Even COREN that certifies Engineers only certify university graduates.

PinkNature:


Didn't go for HND. Everyone thought I was a mad man when I decided to get a jamb form to restart from scratch.

PinkNature:


You didn't school in LA. Your way if writing gave you off.

babakb:


Contrary to your assumption, I'm actually trying to save a generation here, but I need to make them uncomfortable and awaken their minds with a piercing sharp arrow.
Nigerians are too docile to develop themselves
Remember that once you choose Polytechnic Education you have forfeited all STEM professions, You can't even be an Academician.
This is why we a have a generation of unemployable youth in the country.
You can't advance STEM education with the Nigerian Polytechnic system, it's just a SCAM.

It's a lie to say HND Graduates fare better than University graduates in Nigeria, The Medical Doctors, Pharmacists, Radiographers, Nurses, Engineers, Professors, Top Management of Companies, Permanent Secretaries are mostly University Graduates.
Enough of making anyone feel better, Go and get your Degree.

babakb:


Even COREN that certifies Engineers only certify university graduates.

ItisWell22:


Same way I strongly advise young kids against going to schools of nursing.

Just go for BNSC straight up.

Except for those who have already found themselves in the system, like I was many years ago.




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Dracula123:
I have HND
I am a chartered accountant
I can earn as high as the market offers
I got admission to study MBA in uni Abuja with my HND and ICAN.
Don't mislead people
A Bsc graduate can't earn more than me because he went to a university. He can only do so if he has more experience.
Be guided

visaclick:
The op is right. Think of polytechnic as a back yard way of saying “hey you, the uni rejected u right, well come we can get you something equally as better but promise us you won’t tell anyone you got it from us”😁🤣🤣🤣🤣

System202:
U are right op, but what about Btech

babakb:


Guy you need a BSc to make your profile complete, let's not start the earning part please.
Zenith Bank, Stanbic IBTC, UBA, Wema Bank, GTB, Access Bank, Sterling Bank, MTN, Glo, 9Mobile etc don't employ HND graduates as core staff, they only employ HND Graduates on casual or contract basis so what do you have to say about this.

Please I'm not disparaging you or your career, I believe you are matured enough to absorb a strong feedback, you obviously have a good career going on for you, please abandon that MBA and get your BSc, it's just a year or maximum 2 years, you can later go for MSc or MBA.

Better still, you can become ACCA certified and you automatically be awarded Bachelor's Degree from Oxford Bridge University.

Even Tech professionals that work remotely are obtaining their bachelors degree.

Dracula123:
Thank God you know about ACCA

babakb:
Yes!!!
I really want to discomfort Polytechnic students and graduates, I'm a HND Graduate myself so this is not discrimination or bullying

Find a way to obtain a Bachelor's Degree, don't be deceived by the talk of equivalence, If it's not a Degree it isn't.

Polytechnics in Nigeria don't have the capacity to offer studies in Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, Radiography, Law etc

All Full-time Lecturers employed by Polytechnics must at least have BSc & MSc, even the Polytechnic system discriminates against it graduates.

Going for BSc after HND is not a downgrade, it's just to obtain a Degree because you never had one Going for NYSC or doing PDG doesn't confer you with a Degree, besides with your HND most Private and Public Universities in Nigeria will admit you into 300 level.

COREN doesn't certify HND or PGD graduates until they obtain a Degree.

HND graduates are not eligible for any Federal or State government scholarships for Masters studies.

Attending the best Polytechnics or Graduating with Distinction doesn't change the fact that you don't have a Degree.

Please don't pay for that PGD you're about to do, it's just another Diploma

Of course I know very well that becoming rich or successful is not dependent on Certificates, but my point is if you want to enjoy the Nigerian Formal System, a Bachelor's Degree is a must.

What of a degree bachelor that cannot practice his/her profession?