Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,162,419 members, 7,850,491 topics. Date: Tuesday, 04 June 2024 at 10:48 PM

Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! - Foreign Affairs (2) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! (17062 Views)

Have Libyans Made A Huge Mistake By Removing Gaddafi? / Libyans Under Gaddafi Live A Better Life Than Americans / Are Libyans Ignorant Of Their Own Racial Makeup Or Just Plain Racist (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by chineds(m): 9:54am On Oct 21, 2011
moHot:

Why
people are celebrating the demise of Col.
Moammar Ghadafi, I choose to be sober
because another African country has just
fallen into the hands of the imperialist! He
,  might hv gone. But he fought imperialism
even to his last second on earth. The
imperialist have seen free oil to exploit. They
could hide under the clog of democracy to
extend capitalism reign of loot to where it
was vehemently resisted. I weep for Africa!
embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
I feel u my guy. I know Gaddafi did relatively well compared to our clowns here in Nigeria but he refused to bow out when the ovation was loudest. he would have remained a celebrated figure if he had quietly relinquished power but he chose to die in a shameful way. Anyway, that should be a big lesson to our stupid African leaders and other tyrants world over. As for the way he was killed, i don't feel any sober because if you check what havoc he caused trying to retain power and the innocent souls deceived to die for his lies, you will know that there is no need being sorry. As for the west, you are right, Libya will never be up to the level they are economically as the west will definitely try to influence with their IMF, world bank policies that will benefit them. Even the oil is not left out though.That na biggest take now for them.

My hope is that some hard nuts still left should borrow a leaf and do what is supposed to be done. You don't own power and you cannot rule for ever!
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by kaz4sure: 9:56am On Oct 21, 2011
Dear All,
In my own view, i think libyan will definitely regret what they did to Gadafi, the following are my reasons
1. Over 60percent of libyans dont work yet the man feed and cloth them with the oil money.
2. Gadafi try all his best to protect the libyan and libyan people from foreign attack, that is why libya is one of the most powerful country in Africa.
3. NATO and other western invasion into Libyan are doing all they are doing for their own interest i.e at the detriment of the libyan. They will destroy and rebuilt the country so that they can have control over their oil money.
If America and NATO are truely fighting for africa and not their personal interest why cant they intervene in civil war in Syria, Tunisia(recently concluded) and egypt(recentrly councluded), They are more particular about libyan because of the oil money and they have succedded in killing the only man who can stop them from achieving their aims.

The only area i fault gadhafi is that he outght to have surrendered honourably rather than ending his life in a misrable manner like this.


RIP Gadhafi A true Comrade,
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by gaffer: 10:01am On Oct 21, 2011
He started out well and ended on a bad note. The west saw the deficiency in people he governed and took advantage of it.
Killed by his own people, manipulated and ochestrated by the west, the video of his death I don't like.

1 Like

Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by engrj(m): 10:03am On Oct 21, 2011
Ghadafi was a great man i learnt dat he is 69 years and rule Libya for 42 means he became leader at the age of 27, this is great to me. May his soul rest in peace.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Nayah(f): 10:04am On Oct 21, 2011
And the thing they have to explain to me is: how come during 42 years no one talks but now they're saying worst things about KHADDAFI who has deveopped this country, whether we like it or not! "Arab Spring "is just an excuse

1 Like

Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Ayowumie(m): 10:04am On Oct 21, 2011
texazzpete:

How won't these indices be up when the nation was exporting a crapload of oil daily and had only 6 million mouths to feed? Even YOU would have been hard pressed to run Libya without the people seeing some of the oil proceeds. This is in stark contrast to Nigeria where we have[b] 150+ million mouths[/b] to feed.

their country sells 1.5 m barrels of oil daily and has a population of only 6 million!
I did not want to reply to you but i find it difficulty just passing by your comments without saying something. Libya exporting 1.5 m.b/day is what makes their per capita income to high. According to you, what made Nigerian to be poor is our population. Please, listen to urself. Even with 150+million mouths and 2.8m barrels per day (plus exploration of other minerals) we are not supposed to be poor. The poverty in Nigeria is not because of "many mouths" but because of greediness of a few that have been relatively occassioned by Shell, Chevron et al. These companies are always too eager to offer money to these politicians in order to exploit the masses.

texazzpete:

Libyans will not miss the era when stormtroopers could kick down the door, yank away their daddies and bury them in shallow graves with impunity. They will be pleased to have the power to select their own leaders.
I completely agree with you on this but you saying that Libya will continue to enjoy the dividends of the oil is really untrue. Imagine what will happen. Now they will have "democracy" and with democracy comes capitalism. The 1973 nationalised oil firms will go into private individual possessions. I bet you this individuals may definitely be favoured by the West because the primary objective of the West in Libya is oil. They need access to Libyan oil, as an extra source of satisfying their oil consumption (The West are very patriotic and will do anything to perpetuate their dominance and authority)

Please, don't always believe your side of analysis is always true. True freedom can only be ascertained if and when you can discourage external manipulation of your situations. The American and British military bases that were shut down by Gaddafi in 1970 are likely to come back.
If the Libyan people elect a leader that is not favourable to the West, what do you think will happen? CIA will instigate coup to topple such govt.
The only saving grace for the Libya's democracy will be to keep the West at arm's length otherwise, it is a welcome return to "Colonialism's new face" - IMPERIALISM.

texazzpete:

You people don't care about Africa, stop pretending. You're just a bunch of teenagers who scoff down anything they read on conspiracy theorist websites.
Take lessons from what the foreign oil companies have done to Nigeria. Has the West tried to caution its companies over some illegality they are committing in Nigeria? This same would happen to Libya if care is not taken.
It would have been better if Nigeria never had oil. Always see things from other perspective otherwise, you will always remain an educated "fool" (no insult intended)

gaffer:

He started out well and but ended on a bad note. The west saw the[b] deficiency in people he governed and took advantage of it[/b].
Killed by his own people, manipulated and ochestrated by the west,
Thank you, you just provided me with a summary. This is how i see it too.

RIP, Gaddafi.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by kaz4sure: 10:05am On Oct 21, 2011
Check out Muammar Gaddafi's Leadership in Libya.
1.There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens
2. There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law
3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent
4. All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
14. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country. RIP

2 Likes

Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by akatonero(m): 10:07am On Oct 21, 2011
Ghadafi went too far in such a way that he forget about human right he called his people rats and all that even killed lots of people with massive graves here and there he would have stayed longer but he cause his death he knows the world dnt liked him he would have been soo good to his people nyway soldier go soldier come.But i strongly believe nothing to regret libyia  will be better now than his regime.He is a hero he has done well let another try.Saddam was found in a cave but he was found in a hole imagine 42years he has no underground that can lead him to another country in case of emergency.wow!!!
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by atreal: 10:18am On Oct 21, 2011
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please go get for yourselves lives. The people he ruled over for 42 years are not complaining . . . na you go come matter?? Abeg shove it and look for the day you can become master of your own domain there for naija first.


abi ooooo, TELL THEM.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Nobody: 10:22am On Oct 21, 2011
What sort of madness is that feeding people and not making them work. Where on earth besides Lybia does that happen. For goodnes sake Lybians are happy because heaven knew what they went through. That they will regret it, cut the crap. Nobody wants to be a slave to another man.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by kcjazz(m): 10:31am On Oct 21, 2011
kaz4sure:

Check out Muammar Gaddafi's Leadership in Libya.
1.There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens
2. There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law
3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent
4. All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
14. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country. RIP

So? Is it not the Libyans money?

A population of 6 million people plus oil money, I will do better
Plus why does any governement invest in Italy's largest bank if he is anti-western as all you folks claim, when no bank in Libya can compete with even Nigeria's GTB.
Why does Italy maintain its oil fields if he was anti-west?
Why invest in Juventus FC? Who invests in soccer clubs to develop their country? Manchester UTD is the most valuable club and even Leyman Brothers earned more money on their last year of bankruptcy than Manchester United

If he educated his folks really, how come he has Ukranian nurses taking care of him?
Have you read any book by a Libyan author or used any science inventions of a Libyan?
Why does he have African bloods on his hands? Chad, Sierra Leone, Sudan and even possibly Nigeria

When we speak of African heros who fought imperialism then you talk of a man named Thomas Sankara (google him), way ahead of his time in the world and Africa. He supported womens right, educated more women, refused foreign debt and reduced governemnt cost drastically and guess who killed him? Blaise Compaore the current President of Burkina Faso, who was trained and sponsored by your African hero Ghadaffi.

At the end if he were that good, why did his people choose to celebrate his death? The west brainwashed them? He is like the rich man in the village who feeds everyone but suppresses anyone who wants to be richer than him.
At the end will Libya be better? short term No. Long term yes. He ruined his countries institutions cos he was trying to grab unto power and so they will start from scratch now and that process is difficult.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by awuf2008: 10:37am On Oct 21, 2011
A prophet is valued in his own country not until after his demise. Gaddaffi a true terrorist.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by harakiri(m): 10:39am On Oct 21, 2011
@aka tonero

Ghadafi went too far in such a way that he forget about human right he called his people rats and all that even killed lots of people with massive graves here and there he would have stayed longer but he cause his death he knows the world dnt liked him he would have been soo good to his people nyway soldier go soldier come.

Last time i checked, the people he referred to as "rats" were those militant insurgents dwelling in the outskirts of the country and who were bent on toppling his government NOT based on will to improve the lives on the people but to impose their own ideas e.g Sharia and fundamental extremism. How did all the violence start? These same people broke into a military barracks and carted weapons. On top of that, they started formenting trouble and civil disturbance which led to the Libyan forces having to use force. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it was the same western forces that master minded these events so that they could have an excuse to come in and "save the situation". There are African leaders that have done worse than this and the best the west did was to give a speech and that's it! Need a reminder? Obasanjo exterminated the entire communities of Odi and Zaki Biam IN A DEMOCRATIC DISPENSATION! What came out of it? Was he impeached? Did NATO send any forces? Did Nigeria recieve any stiff penalties by the international community? Of course NOT! Why? Aso Rock is more or less an extension of the US embassy with lily-livered spineless leaders who have no guts or moral standing to call the bluff of the imperialists. Is it a coincedence that Nigeria was among the first countries to support the NTC even though Nigerians were being slaughtered like rams on a daily basis in Libya?

But i strongly believe nothing to regret libyia  will be better now than his regime.He is a hero he has done well let another try.Saddam was found in a cave but he was found in a hole imagine 42years he has no underground that can lead him to another country in case of emergency.wow!!!

You really think so? Look at Iraq. Can you compare how that country is right now before the US forces came in? Do you know their Iraqi oil is totally under the control of the US govt? Can you name one progressive country that is controlled by imperialists? You seem to be excited about how Saddam and Ghaddafi were captured by people who don't want to see Africa progress. How myopic my people really are.[quote][/quote]

1 Like

Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by abbey621(m): 10:48am On Oct 21, 2011
Once again I'm not surprised by the reactions of most Nigerians, a group of people that has no balls 2 fight for their own freedom, yet they criticize those brave enough to start their own revolution. I'm not completely surprised, after-all Nigerians didn't fight for democracy, it was handed to them based on luck. If Abacha didn't die, I'm sure, we would still be ruled dictator style because nobody wants 2 die. My advice 2 Nigerians remains this: Stop your sentimental bull crap against the west and focus more on your bastardized system of government, leave Libya alone, for better or worse, at least now they control their own destiny and last but not least, the U.S could have captured Gaddafi in less than 3 days but chose 2 let NATO and the Europeans lead this time, because of the economic condition and yet you people still criticize, you said you hate Boko Haram yet you support Gaddafi and his lunatic ways, what an Irony!
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by COOLDK(m): 10:50am On Oct 21, 2011
How I wish Nigeria is ruled by a Gaddaffi! May be a revolution will start.
No matter what, the man in question has both his positive and negative side. RIP Gaddaffi!
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by COOLDK(m): 10:51am On Oct 21, 2011
How I wish Nigeria is ruled by a Gaddaffi! May be a revolution will start.
No matter what, the man in question has both his positive and negative side. RIP Gaddaffi!
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Ayowumie(m): 10:59am On Oct 21, 2011
kcjazz:

So? Is it not the Libyans money?
Am ashamed of you. Look at the kind of question you are asking. Ok, answer, even with Libyans money, you agreed that he did something, what does Nigerian govt do with Nigerian money?
Let me help you out, they still the money and impoverish the massess.
kaz4sure:

Check out Muammar Gaddafi's Leadership in Libya.
1.There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens
2. There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law
3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent
4. All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
14. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country. RIP

Can you provide source please. I have googled it but couldnt get most of the points you put here
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Nayah(f): 11:01am On Oct 21, 2011
COOL DK:

How I wish Nigeria is ruled by a Gaddaffi! May be a revolution will start.
No matter what, the man in question has both his positive and negative side. RIP Gaddaffi!
They say the same thing for MOBUTU in DRC, see now DRC is for me a geopgraphical and economical outrage, this country is tremendously big and see what's happening?
We always know what we lose but never what we gain, think about that
Tunisia and Egypt are still without governement and people are more and more going abroad, what a wonderful democracy!

1 Like

Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by eaxes: 11:08am On Oct 21, 2011
africans especially black africans are their own worst enemy.I am Nigerian and i sometimes feel like i was born into the dumbest race of humanity.
Now ghaddafi might not have been a saint but then again show me a saint in the world.It is a matter of "who has not sinned cast the first stone"
This whole event to get rid of ghaddafi was a plot put together by the western powers for their own interests.
We are witnessing the colonizing of africa 2.0 and obama is the man in the driving seat.
Obama has basically hod winked all of africa and will deliver africa as a prize to his white masters.
You have been warned. Keep believing the western media propaganda like cnn,sky,fox etc. I have stopped watching those channels long time ago.
Rule of thumb for you guys, If a western country like america or britain is against a leader of a country stop and think. The leader must be doing something fundamentally right.If western government like the leader of country then your leader must be doing something fundamentally wrong.

1 Like

Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Nayah(f): 11:12am On Oct 21, 2011
eaxes:

[b]africans especially black africans are their own worst enemy.[/b]I am Nigerian and i sometimes feel like i was born into the dumbest race of humanity.
Now ghaddafi might not have been a saint but then again show me a saint in the world.It is a matter of "who has not sinned cast the first stone"
This whole event to get rid of ghaddafi was a plot put together by the western powers for their own interests.
We are witnessing the colonizing of africa 2.0 and obama is the man in the driving seat.
Obama has basically hod winked all of africa and will deliver africa as a prize to his white masters.
You have been warned. Keep believing the western media propaganda like cnn,sky,fox etc. I have stopped watching those channels long time ago.
Rule of thumb for you guys, If a western country like america or britain is against a leader of a country stop and think. The leader must be doing something fundamentally right.If western government like the leader of country then your leader must be doing something fundamentally wrong.

The bold one resume everything, I agree
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by zenus(m): 11:26am On Oct 21, 2011
Libya no try at all
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Nayah(f): 11:33am On Oct 21, 2011
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by oludashmi(f): 11:34am On Oct 21, 2011
kaz4sure:

Dear All,
In my own view, i think libyan will definitely regret what they did to Gadafi, the following are my reasons
1. Over 60percent of libyans dont work yet the man feed and cloth them with the oil money.
2. Gadafi try all his best to protect the libyan and libyan people from foreign attack, that is why libya is one of the most powerful country in Africa.
3. NATO and other western invasion into Libyan are doing all they are doing for their own interest i.e at the detriment of the libyan. They will destroy and rebuilt the country so that they can have control over their oil money.
If America and NATO are truely fighting for africa and not their personal interest why cant they intervene in civil war in Syria, Tunisia(recently concluded) and egypt(recentrly councluded),  They are more particular about libyan because of the oil money and they have succedded in killing the only man who can stop them from achieving their aims.

The only area i fault gadhafi is that he outght to have surrendered honourably rather than  ending his life in a misrable manner like this.

RIP Gadhafi A true Comrade,
True

kcjazz:

So? Is it not the Libyans money?
Mumu. . .You say it is Libyan money, ok o, where is your Nigerian money? They are in the hands of pple you or the law cant challenge.

Let me tell you that the Nigerian law of immunity and constitution says if Gbenga Daniel is found guilty and convicted at all, the worst they can give him is 5 yrs in prison. Cecilia Ibru with all the one ninety something billion only got 6 months imprisonment which she spent in the hospital and you are here saying we have human right. Little did you know that animal rights in many countries are better and more beneficial than the human rights we have in Nigeria.

And you are here celebrating Libya when you should be crying for your dead country.


Ayowumie:

Am ashamed of you. Look at the kind of question you are asking. Ok, answer, even with Libyans money, you agreed that he did something, what does Nigerian govt do with Nigerian money?
Let me help you out, they still the money and impoverish the massess.
Can you provide source please. I have googled it but couldnt get most of the points you put here

Many of the points are real but it will take time to get them online.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by owobokiri(m): 11:52am On Oct 21, 2011
Very painfull to watch. How can they kill a man who biult their country from scratch in this way? This whole Arab spring is fake. It was designed to get rid of Gadaffi. People say he was bad and i ask; what wrong did he do? freee education? free healthcare? no debt? free power supply? made a country of 6 million people feared around the world? They just recruited islamist and baptised them "revolutionaries" and my fellow Africans are gobbling the propoganda dished out by the CNN, BBC, FOX and co. Very very sad day for dear Africa. Obama has taken this continent back to colonialism. He seem to be secretely angry with black Africans and this "Gadaffi job" maybe the reason why he was recruited by his white masters. Why is it that obama never said a word about the racist killing of black people in Libya by his NTC thugs? People say that Gadaffi killed protesters but they forget that NATO and the NTC have killed in 7 months more people than Gadafii will ever kill in a lifetime. over 50k. With this NATO precedence, Africa is screwed. VERYYY SAD here.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by fred2265: 11:57am On Oct 21, 2011
While I wish the best to the Libyans, I fear all will not be well for the ordinary man there. New leadership will most likely take the oil wealth for themselves as all leaderships do. The west will favour them to begin with but may end up regretting the association after some time.

[img]http://s01.flagcounter.com/count/7uR/bg=FFFFFF/txt=FFFFFF/border=FFFFFF/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=0/pageviews=0[/img][img]http://s10.flagcounter.com/count/oH/bg=FFFFFF/txt=FFFFFF/border=FFFFFF/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=0/pageviews=0[/img]
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by abbey621(m): 12:05pm On Oct 21, 2011
@Owobokiri- I'm sure you must be joking, your points are baseless and unless you can cite credible source to prove this, then it's basically useless. Have you been to Libya? or do you know anyone living in Libya? If you did you won't even think about uttering such ridiculous statements. Gaddafi built Libya from scratch? Arrant nonsense! Libya had a king, who was violently ousted by Gaddafi, then Gadaffi murdered over 30,000 of his people who stood against him during the 1980's. You said NATO killed 50,000? Another lie! Why must you lie 2 justify yourself. You and other close minded Nigerians are the reason this country remains corrupt and ill-governed, there's no unity, not to talk of patriotism, instead most of you sit behind your couch or computer, crying foul foul, while government continue to eat your future away.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by member479760: 12:13pm On Oct 21, 2011
and the man died like rat. of what benefit to a man that,
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by harakiri(m): 12:15pm On Oct 21, 2011
@abbey621

Once again I'm not surprised by the reactions of most Nigerians, a group of people that has no balls 2 fight for their own freedom, yet they criticize those brave enough to start their own revolution.

First of all, a lot of the so called "freedom fighters" were foreign mercenaries with links to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Second, the remaining bunch of them were disgruntled elements who were outside the country's capital NOT citizens who benefited from Ghaddafi's government.

I'm not completely surprised, after-all Nigerians didn't fight for democracy, it was handed to them based on luck. If Abacha didn't die, I'm sure, we would still be ruled dictator style because nobody wants 2 die.

I agree with you on this. Nigerians in general are terrified of changes and an uncertain future. Talking about Ghaddafi, i'd say democracy might be successful in western nations but might not work in other nations due to certain factors e.g culture,religion,difference in fundamental ideals etc. How many Islamic countries practice true democracy? Is China not practicing the same communism that has been labelled as being "evil" by the western nations? Is China not one of the strongest and economically stable countries today? Is China not "guilty" of having one of the worst human rights abuses? It's not about what form of government that's in place. . .it's how it benefits the people and the country's economic progress. Nigeria and a lot of other African countries practice "democracy". Where are they today?

My advice 2 Nigerians remains this: Stop your sentimental bull crap against the west and focus more on your bastardized system of government, leave Libya alone, for better or worse, at least now they control their own destiny and last but not least, the U.S could have captured Gaddafi in less than 3 days but chose 2 let NATO and the Europeans lead this time, because of the economic condition and yet you people still criticize, you said you hate Boko Haram yet you support Gaddafi and his lunatic ways, what an Irony!

This is not about sentiments or bias towards the west. This is about calling a spade what it really is. For months, the Tutsi and Hutu slaughtered themselves by the million with machetes while the whole world folded their hands and watched (after rescuing their citizens in Rwanda). It's not hard to figure out that it's because they have nothing to gain from aiding Rwanda in quelling the crisis. If the western forces (especially the US) hadn't intefered, those mercenaries a.k.a "freedom fighters" wouldn't have been able to come an inch within the city of Tripoli. Who flew the fighter jets and bombers? Was it the "freedom fighters"? How many of these "fighters" did you see on TV? Can you honestly tell me those rag tag bunch of hooligans would have been able to overcome the well equipped Libyan army?

There is NO comparison between Boko Haram and Ghaddafi. Boko Haram members are terrorists sponsored by the northern elite to distabilize the country and make it ungovernable for Jonathan Goodluck. If there was a northerner in Aso Rock, there would be no suicide bombings. It's all about creating a sense of fear and insecurity and also discouraging those in the middle belt and south west/south east/south south from furthering their ambitions for the next presidential elections. The north wants power back and that's what this is all about. How on earth can you compare these people with Ghaddafi? The US govt alone has done far far far worse things to people both in the US and percieved "enemies" in other countries all in the name of preserving "national security". Why aren't the US forces involved in the Israel and Palestine issue? How about Syria? How about Eygpt? How about Russia's invasion into Georgia 2 years ago? Let me guess. . .they can't afford to mess with the Russians right? LOL grin grin cheesy Ghaddafi remains the best leader ever to come out of Africa and the few years to come will prove me right. We'll see how "stable" Libya becomes after this.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by owobokiri(m): 12:18pm On Oct 21, 2011
abbey621:

@Owobokiri- I'm sure you must be joking, your points are baseless and unless you can cite credible source to prove this, then it's basically useless. Have you been to Libya? or do you know anyone living in Libya? If you did you won't even think about uttering such ridiculous statements. Gaddafi built Libya from scratch? Arrant nonsense! Libya had a king, who was violently ousted by Gaddafi, then Gadaffi murdered over 30,000 of his people who stood against him during the 1980's. You said NATO killed 50,000? Another lie! Why must you lie 2 justify yourself. You and other close minded Nigerians are the reason this country remains corrupt and ill-governed, there's no unity, not to talk of patriotism, instead most of you sit behind your couch or computer, crying foul foul, while government continue to eat your future away.

If only you can do what you are asking me to do - provide facts. I dont know what you are rambling about. Education is free in Libya, ditto health care. You can as well check the fuel price there and other "subsidies" which helped Libyans live better than most African states. Gadaffi took over from one of the most useless kings in the Arab world and his coup was more of a revolution for Libayns because King Idris was a western stooge who didnt know his left from his right. The coup in question was BLOODLESS! Google that.  I dont know where you got that "bloody coup" thing from. Killed 30,000? Where? Abu saliim prison? That was in the 90s and the people killed  in that prison were radical islamists who attacked their warders and killed them together with policemen guarding them. They also wanted to attack the seat of government and barracks same way they did in Bengazi in February  but were crushed. It is the remnants of this group that went to Iraq, Afghanistan and other islamic hot spots to fight against their todays comrade in arms - USA. They are the ones leading the "revolution" in Libya from Benghazi as we speak. Get your facts from an independent source and not from the utterly biased western media before accusing me of all kinds of nonsense.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by Nayah(f): 12:25pm On Oct 21, 2011
owobokiri:

Very painfull to watch. How can they kill a man who biult their country from scratch in this way? This whole Arab spring is fake. It was designed to get rid of Gadaffi. People say he was bad and i ask; what wrong did he do? freee education? free healthcare? no debt? free power supply? made a country of 6 million people feared around the world? They just recruited islamist and baptised them "revolutionaries" and my fellow Africans are gobbling the propoganda dished out by the CNN, BBC, FOX and co. Very very sad day for dear Africa. Obama has taken this continent back to colonialism. He seem to be secretely angry with black Africans and this "Gadaffi job" maybe the reason why he was recruited by his white masters. Why is it that obama never said a word about the racist killing of black people in Libya by his NTC thugs? People say that Gadaffi killed protesters but they forget that NATO and the NTC have killed in 7 months more people than Gadafii will ever kill in a lifetime. over 50k. With this NATO precedence, Africa is screwed. VERYYY SAD here.

My brother this is exactly what I was wondering in my topic on here

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-786201.99999.html#bot
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by agog: 12:33pm On Oct 21, 2011
Sure Libyan will cry for what they let the external forces do to Gaddafi. How I wish we have a leader like him i Nigeria
Check out some of his achievements below, which has never be matched by any ruling president either alive or dead in Nigeria:
1.There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens
2. There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law
3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent
4. All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
13. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.

RIP A TRUE SON OF THE SOIL.
Re: Libyans Will Regret What They Did To Ghadafi.! by harakiri(m): 12:42pm On Oct 21, 2011
owobokiri:

If only you can do what you are asking me to do - provide facts. I dont know what you are rambling about. Education is free in Libya, ditto health care. You can as well check the fuel price there and other "subsidies" which helped Libyans live better than most African states. Gadaffi took over from one of the most useless kings in the Arab world and his coup was more of a revolution for Libayns because King Idris was a western stooge who didnt know his left from his right. The coup in question was BLOODLESS! Google that.  I dont know where you got that "bloody coup" thing from. Killed 30,000? Where? Abu saliim prison? That was in the 90s and the people killed  in that prison were radical islamists who attacked their warders and killed them together with policemen guarding them. They also wanted to attack the seat of government and barracks same way they did in Bengazi in February  but were crushed. It is the remnants of this group that went to Iraq, Afghanistan and other islamic hot spots to fight against their todays comrade in arms - USA. They are the ones leading the "revolution" in Libya from Benghazi as we speak. Get your facts from an independent source and not from the utterly biased western media before accusing me of all kinds of nonsense.

Thank you so so so much for chipping that in. Sometimes when i see people spewing their ignorance all over this forum, i wonder how their brains work. All they know is what they have been brainwashed with. Anything they see on CNN and BBC is acknowledged as "facts" in their little world. Months ago, the same BBC showed Indian protesters carrying INDIAN FLAGS on TV and announced to the world that these were "Libyan protesters". The same CNN announced to the world months ago that one of Ghaddafi's sons had been captured by the rebels and hours later, that same son was seen LIVE on TV driving through the streets of Tripoli. This is where they get their "credible information" from.

Pathetic! ! !

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (Reply)

We Are Ready For 'negotiation' With Mali, Burkina Faso & Niger - ECOWAS / Iran Builds New Liko Drone / West African Countries Shower President Ramaphosa With Honours & Titles On Tour

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 154
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.