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Religion And Children by Bestbrain123(m): 5:13pm On Oct 04, 2023
PROVERB 22:6 train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. The main reason why individual rebel against religious teaching, is not allowing a child to grow mentally matured before dragging him or her in to mental slavery.
Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:22pm On Oct 04, 2023
Bestbrain123:

PROVERB 22:6 train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. The main reason why individual rebel against religious teaching, is not allowing a child to grow mentally matured before dragging him or her in to mental slavery.
NO! The main reason is sin!

Before Adam rebel against his Creator all the creatures on the planet obey Adam like demigod in the garden but after sin 99.99999% if animals turned against Adam.
So few of his own children regarded him and that's what is affecting mankind today.
If you meet your parents in a place where they are living comfortable and no one around you is suffering no one is a slave to another and life is sweet you won't even think of rebelling against the one who caused your birth.
But with frustration here and there coupled with crime and insecurity there are reasons to doubt everything people told you because you don't know who to trust!

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Re: Religion And Children by Bestbrain123(m): 5:48pm On Oct 04, 2023
SIN ! what do you mean by sin, thats a religious indoctrined'd fallacy. i want a reason out of religious answering

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Re: Religion And Children by Kobojunkie: 5:55pm On Oct 04, 2023
Bestbrain123:
PROVERB 22:6 train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. The main reason why individual rebel against religious teaching, is not allowing a child to grow mentally matured before dragging him or her in to mental slavery.
At least a Scripturally sound understanding of the reason for the content which you quote before you attempt to dig into it. undecided

Train up your child in the Way — The Way refers to the Old Law of Moses in that verse — was said in reference to God's particular instruction to the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan.
Prov 22:6: "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
As part of the Old Covenant, God Himself commanded His people to teach His Law — His every teaching and commandment which He gave through to Moses to them — to their children. undecided
Deuteronomy 6 vs 6-9 (ERV)
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6. Always remember these commands that I give you today.
7. Be sure to teach them to your children. Talk about these commands when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road. Talk about them when you lie down and when you get up.
8. Tie them on your hands and wear them on your foreheads to help you remember my teachings.
9. Write them on the doorposts of your houses and on your gates.
He instructed them to talk about the commandments wherever they gathered and to write them on their hands, doorposts, and everywhere.

Deuteronomy 11 vs 18-20 (ERV)
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18. “Remember these commands I give you. Keep them in your hearts. Write them down and tie them on your hands and wear them on your foreheads as a way to remember my laws.
19. Teach these laws to your children. Talk about these things when you sit in your houses, when you walk along the road, when you lie down, and when you get up.
20. Write these commands on the doorposts of your houses and on your gates.
21. Then both you and your children will live a long time in the land that the Lord promised to give to your ancestors. You will live there as long as the skies are above the earth.
And as is customary with men, you tell him to do A, man will do Z. The people of course added their own "spin" to the laws of God and even threw in the kitchen table, pots, and cups into their telling of the laws to their children, instead of indoctrinating generations, leading to their abandonment of the way of God, in some cases, entirely( Jesus Christ railed against the so-called teachers of the law on this in His teachings).

God then announced through His prophets that He was going to bring a new deal to His people, and in the new deal, He alone would teach His people of Himself.
Isaiah 53 vs 13-15 (ERV)
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13. I, the Lord, will teach your children, and they will have real peace.
14. You will be built on goodness. You will be safe from cruelty and fear. So you will have nothing to fear. Nothing will come to hurt you.
15. I will never send anyone to attack you. And if any army tries to attack you, you will defeat them.
No longer would a man have to teach his neighbor or brothers— His children included— about God - God Himself will do the teaching Himself and Himself alone.
Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34 (ERV)
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31. “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
32. not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord.
33. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”
When Jesus Christ, the New Covenant promised us, arrived He Himself declared again, that He and He alone is Teacher to all of His - none of His followers is to set themselves as teachers over those who belong to Him.
Matthew 23 vs 8-12
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8. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c]
9. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
10. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you shall be your servant.
12. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
This He made clear in His final instructions to His followers when He sent them out to go teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, that which He taught them(no modifications of any kind), to the world.
Mark 16 vs 15-18 (ERV)
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15. He said to them, “Go everywhere in the world. Tell the Good News to everyone.
16. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. But those who do not believe will be judged guilty.
17. And the people who believe will be able to do these things as proof: They will use my name to force demons out of people. They will speak in languages they never learned.
18. If they pick up snakes or drink any poison, they will not be hurt. They will lay their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
Religion pretends that it is possible to "train" children to become followers of Jesus Christ, but as the Nigerian situation showcases, it is an impossible feat. undecided
Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:27pm On Oct 04, 2023
Bestbrain123:

SIN ! what do you mean by sin, thats a religious indoctrined'd fallacy. i want a reason out of religious answering
SIN means defect that comes from rebellion in the beginning.
Remove the sin aspect because it's beyond your grasp, focus on troubles that's causing confusion in the world.
If everything is going on fine no child will rebel against their parents. Matthew 24:12
Bestbrain123:
Christianity is know longer giving me Joy.. judging from what is happening around the world and my country even my enviroment... and i still can't believe why my joying is dieing... another concept is TRINITY that one got me more furious when is mention. i don't know why this things is happening. but some thing keep telling me that christianity is fastly changing from good to worse.. pls teachers of religious law i need some explanation .
The highlighted is exactly what i meant!

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Re: Religion And Children by Bestbrain123(m): 11:02pm On Oct 04, 2023
Religion in itself is a distraction to human nature, thats while many religious parents find it painful and heartbreaking when their son or daughter is not living according to the principles outlined by their religious law...
Re: Religion And Children by Kobojunkie: 11:52pm On Oct 04, 2023
Bestbrain123:
Religion in itself is a distraction to human nature, thats while many religious parents find it painful and heartbreaking when their son or daughter is not living according to the principles outlined by their religious law...
Rather, religion pretends to distract from human nature when in fact what it does is serve human nature. For example, ever wonder why your Pastors and mogs are ever so obsessed with the subject of sexual immorality and material wealth? They pretend to deny these things with their words but in their hearts and by their actions, it is what they long to keep grasp on, never letting go. undecided

You tell a pastor, for instance, to live as Eunuchs in a similar manner that Jesus Christ and many of the apostles did, and he would carve out many reasons that are not even in the book why he should not do that, and proceed to rope God to be on His side as well, this the same God who is written to have proffered a special reward for those who would choose to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom. (those who chose marriage do not enjoy the same privilege as marriage is instead of this world and not of the Kingdom of God.) grin
Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:42am On Oct 05, 2023
Bestbrain123:

Religion in itself is a distraction to human nature, thats while many religious parents find it painful and heartbreaking when their son or daughter is not living according to the principles outlined by their religious law...
Religion has its own purpose but false religions makes it seems as if religion religion is needless, it's like the currency in circulation if you have ever gotten into trouble due to fake currency you may start thinking we don't need money at all but that's the one and only means of exchange that regulates the cost of things for now.
So find out the purpose of religion you will never ever speak against it if you know it's real benefits.

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Re: Religion And Children by Bestbrain123(m): 8:57am On Oct 05, 2023
If YOU look at religion closely or even pagan.. And drawing a concluction on why men worship A God or deity.. you will understand that is the fear of death, (which religion also stole and fake talk them into a slavish mindset of enternal life in heaven or what ever) while the primary purpose is it inherit the earth and dominate it and be superior than the other, Now after all this nature still bring to you your deadly fear... religion keep giving the assurance that it does`nt end here. (the question is why is religion so much interested in earthly recruitment for heavenly army) While heaven (according to holy book) has the host of them all.
Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31am On Oct 05, 2023
Bestbrain123:

If YOU look at religion closely or even pagan.. And drawing a concluction on why men worship A God or deity.. you will understand that is the fear of death, (which religion also stole and fake talk them into a slavish mindset of enternal life in heaven or what ever) while the primary purpose is it inherit the earth and dominate it and be superior than the other, Now after all this nature still bring to you your deadly fear... religion keep giving the assurance that it does`nt end here. (the question is why is religion so much interested in earthly recruitment for heavenly army) While heaven (according to holy book) has the host of them all.

Exactly what i'm trying to tell you!

True religion has nothing to do with eternal suffering rather what God purposed fr the start is for humans to discover all the things we can CREATE using the resources God has given us that's the import of creature in God's image {Genesis 1:26} and God never purposed that we live for some time and expire rather we are to continue living as youths forever! Psalms 37:25
What God is saying now is that whoever fails to grasp the purpose for which man was created will be forgotten after the expiration date {Psalms 9:17} so true religion is about passing this info throughout the earth for those that avail themselves. Matthew 10:11-13; 28:19-20
The only fear a true believer has is loosing such a great friend just as you won't like to loose the cordial relationship you have with a faithful friend not the fear of terror! smiley

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Re: Religion And Children by KnownUnknown: 11:30am On Oct 05, 2023
Bestbrain123:
PROVERB 22:6 train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. The main reason why individual rebel against religious teaching, is not allowing a child to grow mentally matured before dragging him or her in to mental slavery.
Re: Religion And Children by Aemmyjah(m): 11:32am On Oct 05, 2023
That verse is not really about religion but also morals though religion is a driving force for morals
Is it not also mental slavery to teach a child to greet others older than him, respect elders, good grooming, show respect in his requests, show appreciation whem others treat him kindly and learn how to do home chores from childhood?
All these critics are becoming something else. Na wa o

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Re: Religion And Children by Bestbrain123(m): 1:04pm On Oct 05, 2023
How you train your child should be base on your cultural values and principles that guide your land not a global order that issues a warning and harm upon not obeying his set rules.. That is religion for you.. Each culture has their set of believes, rules and values that protect and guide them and they happly live by it, why a religious global order listing out harms that will be fall the unfaithful.
Re: Religion And Children by Aemmyjah(m): 1:11pm On Oct 05, 2023
Bestbrain123:
How you train your child should be base on your cultural values and principles that guide your land not a global order that issues a warning and harm upon not obeying his set rules.. That is religion for you.. Each culture has their set of believes, rules and values that protect and guide them and they happly live by it, why a religious global order listing out harms that will be fall the unfaithful.

Cultural values are not rooted or shared with religious beliefs especially when it comes to morals?
Re: Religion And Children by Bestbrain123(m): 1:20pm On Oct 05, 2023
Your answer should answer to the name of the nation mention'd in the holy book choosen by God and their tradition and cultural values puted as a moral value to every nation.
Re: Religion And Children by Aemmyjah(m): 1:30pm On Oct 05, 2023
Bestbrain123:
Your answer should answer to the name of the nation mention'd in the holy book choosen by God and their tradition and cultural values puted as a moral value to every nation.

Which nation?
Only one nation worships God?
Only one nation teaches their children?

Why not give your children keys and ask him drive on a highway or allow them jump into swimming pool or take him to a beach and allow him go beyond the shore?

If teaching children about God is mental slavery
Same way teaching them to do house chores, humility, respect is mental slavery.
Why do many people say some children are spoilt and bad and lack home training?
That home training is part of the 'mental slavery'... Is that how you'll treat your children?
Re: Religion And Children by The6thAustralia: 2:02pm On Oct 05, 2023
Every child is a tabularasa. What you write on their mind Is what they will become
Re: Religion And Children by Kobojunkie: 3:25pm On Oct 05, 2023
Bestbrain123:
■ How you train your child should be base on your cultural values and principles that guide your land not a global order that issues a warning and harm upon not obeying his set rules.. That is religion for you.. Each culture has their set of believes, rules and values that protect and guide them and they happly live by it, why a religious global order listing out harms that will be fall the unfaithful.
But your cultural and traditional "values" are equally religious ideas drafted by men as a system through which to wield power and control other members of the same group. Culture and tradition, like religion, cannot guarantee those subjugated within the group happiness, and yes, many are. undecided

So, your cultural values are equally religious values which you ought also to decry. undecided

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Re: Religion And Children by Bestbrain123(m): 3:58pm On Oct 05, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Which nation?
Only one nation worships God?
Only one nation teaches their children?

Why not give your children keys and ask him drive on a highway or allow them jump into swimming pool or take him to a beach and allow him go beyond the shore?

If teaching children about God is mental slavery
Same way teaching them to do house chores, humility, respect is mental slavery.
Why do many people say some children are spoilt and bad and lack home training?
That home training is part of the 'mental slavery'... Is that how you'll treat your children?
Re: Religion And Children by Kobojunkie: 4:14pm On Oct 05, 2023
Bestbrain123:
■ Your answer should answer to the name of the nation mention'd in the holy book choosen by God and their tradition and cultural values puted as a moral value to every nation.
The only such nation chosen by God is the Nation of Israel which consists of the people of Isreal. Does that then mean other Nations are not to sufficiently raise their kids to ensure they grow up into law-abiding citizens of their particular nation and the earth itself? No! undecided

The goal of parenting is to raise fully functional law-abiding citizens of the world so each and every potential parent is expected to gain an understanding of the laws and principles — become fully practiced in those principles as well —before then proceeding to having and raising kids to conform to the same principles. undecided

Religion(culture and tradition included) tends to subvert the human rights of some in order to assert itself. You see this in how religious individuals approach those who do not conform to their moral codes and whatnot. Whereas the Law and all principles associated with it are designed to uphold the rights of all, regardless of background, orientation, or learning. undecided
Re: Religion And Children by budaatum: 5:30pm On Oct 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

NO! The main reason is sin!

Before Adam rebel against his Creator all the creatures on the planet obey Adam like demigod in the garden but after sin 99.99999% if animals turned against Adam.

What nonsense! He named them don't make Adam the god of the animals.
Re: Religion And Children by KnownUnknown: 5:35pm On Oct 05, 2023
budaatum:


What nonsense! He named them don't make Adam the god of the animals.

Why do you argue about the garden and what went on in it? The story isn’t real and can be called a myth or fairy tale so embellishment is permitted. It’s is a religious story after all where magical things happen.

He can claim Adam drove levitating cars if he wants.
Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48pm On Oct 05, 2023
budaatum:

What nonsense! He named them don't make Adam the god of the animals.
Do you know what a demigod means?

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Re: Religion And Children by budaatum: 7:17pm On Oct 05, 2023
KnownUnknown:


Why do you argue about the garden and what went on in it? The story isn’t real and can be called a myth or fairy tale so embellishment is permitted. It’s is a religious story after all where magical things happen.

He can claim Adam drove levitating cars if he wants.

Might as well ask why you argue with religious people at all since the gods themselves are myths.

Stories, especially this one, programs the mind, and not understanding it lets the misprogramme prevail.

Besides , it helps me determine if people actually use their own eyes or not when they read the religious mythical fairy tale, since it does not claim what most believe, the mythical Adam and mythical Eve in the mythical Garden not being the mythical creation created in the mythical God's image.
Re: Religion And Children by budaatum: 7:18pm On Oct 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Do you know what a demigod means?

A being with lesser divine status. But not only was Adam not divine, he was a naked ignorant slave.
Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42pm On Oct 05, 2023
budaatum:

A being with lesser divine status. But not only was Adam not divine, he was a naked ignorant slave.
So the Almighty created Adam to be like a demigod in that garden. smiley

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Re: Religion And Children by KnownUnknown: 9:03pm On Oct 05, 2023
budaatum:


Might as well ask why you argue with religious people at all since the gods themselves are myths.

Stories, especially this one, programs the mind, and not understanding it lets the misprogramme prevail.

Besides , it helps me determine if people actually use their own eyes or not when they read the religious mythical fairy tale, since it does not claim what most believe, the mythical Adam and mythical Eve in the mythical Garden not being the mythical creation created in the mythical God's image.

I argue with them because their delusions have consequences outside of their religious communities, which ultimately affects me. However, I’m not going to argue whether Adam really died or didn’t die or if he was a demigod or a man who named all the animals. It’s like a public intellectual property that anyone can add or subtract from. Hollywood has perfected this as seen in their movies Noah and Moses. Hollywood can embellish the story of Noah because no 600 years old drunkard ever built any freaking boat in the first place.

Of course everyone uses their eyes when they read the stories, however the interpretation can vary because the stories are essentially exaggerated nonsense. In that case, your interpretation is as good as Maxindahouse’s interpretation.

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Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05pm On Oct 05, 2023
KnownUnknown:

I argue with them because their delusions have consequences outside of their religious communities, which ultimately affects me.
I love this so much!

Please tell everyone here exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing that's affecting your miserable life in anyway! smiley

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Re: Religion And Children by KnownUnknown: 9:07pm On Oct 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

I love this so much!

Please tell everyone here exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing that's affecting your miserable life in anyway! smiley

Your existence is enough to make me nauseous. Lol
Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:09pm On Oct 05, 2023
KnownUnknown:

You contribute to the ignorance of humanity lmao
So what makes you think you're not contributing to the madness in the society? smiley

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Re: Religion And Children by KnownUnknown: 9:10pm On Oct 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

So what makes you think you're not contributing to the madness in the society? smiley

I’m not a member of Jehovah’s Witness cult. smiley

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Re: Religion And Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13pm On Oct 05, 2023
KnownUnknown:

I’m not a Jehovah Witness. smiley

Guy there's FREEDOM of SPEECH, EXPRESSION, WORSHIP AND ASSOCIATION so talk like a sane person.

What exactly has Jehovah's Witnesses done in the human society that's against the law? smiley

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