Is it possible for an evil man or woman or a person who destroys the lives of other people's children to have successful children?
I asked because people often say that what you do to other people's children will come back to your own children ten folds.

I want the opinion of a very SPIRITUAL person

Mikel99:
Is it possible for an evil man or woman or a person who destroys the lives of other people's children to have successful children?

Ofcourse!

Stop blinding yourself to all that is right before you pretending you are being spiritual in your ignorance. Even the most evil experience success by the world's standard which requires no spiritual sense to observe. No spiritual bullsheet required to observe that with one's own eyes.

Yes each man with his destiny. And your destiny is in your hands not because of what this or that does. Good and evil originate from the same source depends on what you want to transmit. Hope that helps any further question

If you are a Christian, go and read the life story of David, how he collected Urias wife and how he killed him, read what happen to him towards the end of his life, what he children did to him, how he ran into the wilderness for days, etc

Redomi:
■ If you are a Christian, go and read the life story of David, how he collected Urias wife and how he killed him, read what happen to him towards the end of his life, what he children did to him, how he ran into the wilderness for days, etc

David was a righteous man of God long before the incident with Uriah --- God selected David to be king especially for that reason. Do you really think it makes sense to compare your unrighteous Christian existence with that of a righteous man like David? What happened to David has nothing to do with the pattern to be observed in the unrighteous.

Mikel99:
Is it possible for an evil man or woman or a person who destroys the lives of other people's children to have successful children?

Yes!

But success too is a punishment ask Solomon.

Mikel99:
Is it
I asked because people often say that what you do to other people's children will come back to your own children ten folds.

True! God does punish them in several different ways.

And check it out, those destroying other people's children do also destroy their own children whilst trying to protect and promote them.

That is what God has done such that as they are destroying others, they are also destroying their own.

Kobojunkie:
David was a righteous man of God long before the incident with Uriah --- God selected David to be king especially for that reason. Do you really think it makes sense to compare your unrighteous Christian existence with that of a righteous man like David? What happened to David has nothing to do with the pattern to be observed in the unrighteous.

And everyone sees that he later became unrighteous like other kings of isreal.

If you can inherit Genetic problems then you surely can suffer the sins of your ancestors.


Adam and Eve Curse

For those unaware, it is impossible for a man who has been approved righteous by God to be rendered unrighteous by any act of his. This since God Himself never forsakes the righteous.

Kobojunkie:
For those unaware, it is impossible for a man who has been approved righteous by God to be rendered unrighteous by any act of his. This since God Himself never forsakes the righteous.

So what are the last words of Jesus on the cross as he died

Let me help you

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

SMoh24:
■ So what are the last words of Jesus on the cross as he died

Those words Jesus Christ cried out on the cross were the words spoken by David in Psalm 22 vs 1. Read through the rest of the same psalm to realize that it was an emotions driven cry---- a question really ---' from a man in pain. God never did forsake Him even though it felt as though He had. This is evidenced by His actual last words--- " into your hands I command my Spirit." If God had truly forsaken Him, He wouldn't have said that.

Kobojunkie:
Those words Jesus Christ cried out on the cross were the words spoken by David in Psalm 22 vs 1. Read through the rest of the same psalm to realize that it was an emotions driven cry from a man in pain. God never did forsake Him even though it felt as though He had. This is evidenced by His actual last words--- " into your hands I command my Spirit." If God had truly forsaken Him, He wouldn't have said that.

Jesus spoke clearly sugar qoute him

Do you know how each and every Disciples of Jesus Christ died

Do you know how most prophet died

Now tell us what forsaken means to you


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Kobojunkie:
For those unaware, it is impossible for a man who has been approved righteous by God to be rendered unrighteous by any act of his. This since God Himself never forsakes the righteous.

Clearly not what the bible Said for we saw some kings of Isreal walked righteously at their beginning and God cut them off when they became unrighteous e.g.. Solomon

SMoh24:
If you can inherit Genetic problems then you surely can suffer the sins of your ancestors.


Adam and Eve Curse

It's a 50/50 thing.

Dtruthspeaker:


It's a 50/50 thing.

Do you know why Yahoo boys, Politicians all go for spiritual births

And even Jesus got baptised?

They want to rid of ancestorial misfortune, curse and sins

SMoh24:
■ Jesus spoke clearly sugar qoute him
■ Do you know how each and every Disciples of Jesus Christ died
■ Do you know how most prophet died
■ Now tell us what forsaken means to you.

Stop twisting what He said to fit a false interpretation you have been fed... Jesus Christ clearly asked a question .

2. Does it really matter how they each died?

3. Yes, we do. Majority of them were murdered. Even Jesus addressed that while announcing He too would go the same way. What has that to do with this topic though?

4. You don't even know what it means for a righteous man to be forsaken yet you jumped in? To be approved righteous is to gain God's undivided attention and focus --- access to all of the promises of God as well as His promise to never leave or forsake one. So, to be forsaken by God means one is denied God's attention, promises and is abandoned by God --- left to fend for oneself.

God promised those who belong to Him that He will never leave nor forsake them. None of the prophets who were murderers were abandoned by God, and certainly neither was Jesus Christ who made it known to you that His death was of His own accord as He has power to lay down his life and pick it back up again - John 10.

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Back to the question asked by Jesus Christ on the cross, I suggest you read the entirety of Psalm 22 to understand David's Lamentation from which it came from. God never abandoned David even though David felt dismay and dejection on many occasions.

Scripture never speaks of God abandoning even Solomon.

9 Now the Lord was angry with Solomon because his heart had turned away from the Lord, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice,
10 and had commanded him regarding this thing, that he was not to follow other gods; but he did not comply with what the Lord had commanded.
11 So the Lord said to Solomon, “Since [i]you have done this, and you have not kept My covenant and My statutes, which I have commanded you, I will certainly tear the kingdom away from you, and will give it to your servant.
12 However, I will not do it in your days, only for the sake of your father David; but I will tear it away from the hand of your son.
13 Yet I will not tear away all the kingdom, but I will give one tribe to your son for the sake of My servant David, and for the sake of Jerusalem, which I have chosen.” - 1 Kings 11 vs 9 -13

Even in his unfaithfulness, God still spoke to Solomon, something God does not do with any who are unrighteous.

Kobojunkie:
Stop twisting what He said to fit a false interpretation you have been fed... Jesus Christ clearly asked a question .

2. Does it really matter how they each died?

3. Yes, we do. Majority of them were murdered. Even Jesus addressed that while announcing He too would go the same way. What has that to do with this topic though?

4. You don't even know what it means for a righteous man to be forsaken yet you jumped in? To be approved righteous is to gain God's undivided attention and focus --- access to all of the promises of God as well as His promise to never leave or forsake one. So, to be forsaken by God means one is denied God's attention, promises and is abandoned by God --- left to fend for oneself.

God promised those who belong to Him that He will never leave nor forsake them. None of the prophets who were murderers were abandoned by God, and certainly neither was Jesus Christ who made it known to you that His death was of His own accord as He has power to lay down his life and pick it back up again - John 10.

Forsaken Meaning; forsaken
/fəˈseɪk(ə)n,fɔːˈseɪk(ə)n/
adjective
abandoned or deserted.

Jesus last word as the supposed son of God: Father why have you forsaken me

David also asked why he had been forsaken

Each an every Dosciple and Prophet got forsaken

So which ever way you see it they got forsaken



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Mikel99:
Is it possible for an evil man or woman or a person who destroys the lives of other people's children to have successful children?
I asked because people often say that what you do to other people's children will come back to your own children ten folds.

How is this man/woman "evil" and destroying other people's children?

SMoh24:
■Forsaken Meaning; forsaken
/fəˈseɪk(ə)n,fɔːˈseɪk(ə)n/
adjective
abandoned or deserted.
Jesus last word as the supposed son of God: Father why have you forsaken me. David also asked why he had been forsaken.Each an every Dosciple and Prophet got forsaken.So whichever way you see it they got forsaken.

Again, Stop twisting what He said to fit a false interpretation you have been fed... Jesus Christ clearly asked a question .

2. Does it really matter how they each died?

3. Yes, we do. The majority of them were murdered. Even Jesus addressed that while announcing He too would go the same way. What has that to do with this topic though?

4. You don't even know what it means for a righteous man to be forsaken yet you jumped in? To be approved righteous is to gain God's undivided attention and focus --- access to all of the promises of God as well as His promise to never leave or forsake one. So, to be forsaken by God means one is denied God's attention, and promises and is abandoned by God --- left to fend for oneself.

God promised those who belong to Him that He will never leave nor forsake them. None of the prophets who were murderers were abandoned by God, and certainly neither was Jesus Christ who made it known to you that His death was of His own accord as He has power to lay down his life and pick it back up again - John 10.

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Back to the question asked by Jesus Christ on the cross, I suggest you read the entirety of Psalm 22 to understand David's Lamentation from which it came from. God never abandoned David even though David felt dismay and dejection on many occasions. [

Kobojunkie:
Again, Stop twisting what He said to fit a false interpretation you have been fed... Jesus Christ clearly asked a question .

2. Does it really matter how they each died?

3. Yes, we do. The majority of them were murdered. Even Jesus addressed that while announcing He too would go the same way. What has that to do with this topic though?

4. You don't even know what it means for a righteous man to be forsaken yet you jumped in? To be approved righteous is to gain God's undivided attention and focus --- access to all of the promises of God as well as His promise to never leave or forsake one. So, to be forsaken by God means one is denied God's attention, and promises and is abandoned by God --- left to fend for oneself.

God promised those who belong to Him that He will never leave nor forsake them. None of the prophets who were murderers were abandoned by God, and certainly neither was Jesus Christ who made it known to you that His death was of His own accord as He has power to lay down his life and pick it back up again - John 10.

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Back to the question asked by Jesus Christ on the cross, I suggest you read the entirety of Psalm 22 to understand David's Lamentation from which it came from. God never abandoned David even though David felt dismay and dejection on many occasions. [

Was Jesus forsaken or not

Yes or No

SMoh24:
■Was Jesus forsaken or not. Yes or No

The obvious answer to that is NO. Again, this since the same Jesus Christ followed the question up with a declaration committing His Spirit to the hands of the same God only moments later.

Kobojunkie:
The obvious answer to that is NO. Again, this since the same Jesus Christ followed the question up with a declaration committing His Spirit to the hands of the same God only moments later.

So If Jesus commited his spirit in the hands of his Father who never saved him during his dying moment he was never forsaken, Abandoned or Ignored


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SMoh24:
■ So If Jesus commited his spirit in the hands of his Father who never saved him during his dying moment he was never forsaken, Abandoned or Ignored.

Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross?

11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf snatches them and scatters the flock.
13 He flees because he is a hired hand and does not care about the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own, and My own know Me,
15 just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice; and they will become one flock, with one shepherd.
17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it back.
18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back. This commandment I received from My Father.” - John 10 vs 11 - 18

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross?

Does a son needs to ask a father to protect and defend him from death in the most humiliating manner with common thief

If you had a kid what would be your reaction

SMoh24:
■ Does a son needs to ask a father to protect and defend him from death in the most humiliating manner with common thief. If you had a kid what would be your reaction

You didn't answer the question. Again, Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross?

11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf snatches them and scatters the flock.
13 He flees because he is a hired hand and does not care about the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own, and My own know Me,
15 just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice; and they will become one flock, with one shepherd.
17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it back.
18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back. This commandment I received from My Father.” - John 10 vs 11 - 18

Kobojunkie:
You didn't answer the question. Again, Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross?

.. stop twisting conversation

Answer like a man

If You had a son nailed to the cross bleeding and crying

Will you save him

Yes or No

SMoh24:
.. stop twisting conversation. Answer like a man. If You had a son nailed to the cross bleeding and crying. Will you save him. Yes or No

Let's stay on context and stop cooking up ridiculous analogies that make no sense when Scripture is considered. Again, You didn't answer the question. Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross?

11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf snatches them and scatters the flock.
13 He flees because he is a hired hand and does not care about the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own, and My own know Me,
15 just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice; and they will become one flock, with one shepherd.
17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it back.
18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back. This commandment I received from My Father.” - John 10 vs 11 - 18

There is a reason why Jesus Christ never asked His Father to save Him and the reason was made known by Jesus Christ Himself up there. He did not need saving of any kind. So, why do you insist that Jesus Christ needed saving?

Kobojunkie:
Let's stay on context and stop cooking up ridiculous analogies that make no sense when Scripture is considered. Again, You didn't answer the question. Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross? There is a reason why Jesus Christ never asked His Father to save Him and the reason was made known by Jesus Christ Himself up there. He did not need saving of any kind. So, why do you insist that Jesus Christ needed saving?

. If You had a son nailed to the cross bleeding and crying. Will you save him. Yes or No

Very simple

For the very last time before exiting the thread

Answer the question

Should a police interrogate you... They would simply seek more days in custody for you from a magistrate

SMoh24:
If You had a son nailed to the cross bleeding and crying. Will you save him. Yes or No Very simple
For the very last time before exiting the thread Answer the question

Please dead the stewpid analogies and let's stay on context. Again, You didn't answer the question. Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross?

11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf snatches them and scatters the flock.
13 He flees because he is a hired hand and does not care about the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own, and My own know Me,
15 just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice; and they will become one flock, with one shepherd.
17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it back.
18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back. This commandment I received from My Father.” - John 10 vs 11 - 18

There is a reason why Jesus Christ never asked His Father to save Him and the reason was made known by Jesus Christ Himself up there. He did not need saving of any kind. So, why do you insist that Jesus Christ needed saving?

Kobojunkie:
Scripture never speaks of God abandoning even Solomon.
Even in his unfaithfulness, God still spoke to Solomon, something God does not do with any who are unrighteous.

Scripture shows us that this was the last time God Spoke to him and even The Words shows that this is God abandoning Solomon.

Not to talk of the fact that God raised up his replacement and tormenter.