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Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 12:35pm On Oct 09, 2023
Globad:


So says someone with sawdust between his ears

@believeintruth

Your name should be aptly changed to believeinfolly because you're allergic to the truth

Oga there is no allergy to the truth, the real truth which is clear even to you is that you don't have sense
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by IfnobeGod20: 12:44pm On Oct 09, 2023
Abrahamweb:

Let me clear something.
Gabon president did it,he gagged the Media on the day of election,did he not?
In the case of Buhari, nothing happened to him as he got away with it, because he's not imprisoned or given any punishment for that.
You can say all you want,but the truth is that this current administration removed #Alleyesonjudiciary sign board,and nothing happened and believe me it only goes downhill from there.
The billboard did not threaten the judiciary in any way but it was removed,why?
That in and of itself is a gag,it's light but still a gag and if the government decide to take it up a notch, nothing will still happen.
I'm not for it but it's just the truth.
You're using Gabon as a case study of a country that gagged the media of all countries in the whole world. That an unconstitutional thing is done by someone does that make it a right. It's just like saying because certain president sit tight on the throne that makes it constitutional. The day of reckoning will come and by that time ot would be a regret. I think you can feel the vibes of the unconstitutionality that is making military to unseat presidents in Africa. That's how cumulative effects of unconstitutional activities of any regime. That somebody get away with it means the person has not done it to full brim.
Meanwhile, the one that Buhari did by suspending Twitter we all saw the heat he received from world leaders and how subtly divert everything not to make it look it was to president directly the attack but to the nation. He even went to Paris and said Twitter wasn't ban in Nigeria when he was asked the rationale for banning Twitter in Nigeria.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://dailypost.ng/2021/11/10/twitter-was-not-banned-in-nigeria-lai-mohammed-speaks-in-paris/&ved=2ahUKEwihpMq_7uiBAxUNRkEAHVm4AxIQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1wLiWyjxAIg2mzn_VkuCue

One time he even said, the ban was due to the activities of IPOB and not for anything.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://guardian.ng/news/lai-mohammed-insists-nigerias-suspension-of-twitter-is-legal/amp&ved=2ahUKEwihpMq_7uiBAxUNRkEAHVm4AxIQFnoECAcQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1qr47kgtAb5MwCWQIMAet_

US,UK, EU and others hit hard on Nigeria because of Twitter suspension.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/twitter-suspension-us-uk-eu-others-are-hypocrites-says-lai-mohammed/%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwihpMq_7uiBAxUNRkEAHVm4AxIQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw32piI5yq3hSBDE2aYdGbJZ

For record purpose, the suspension of Twitter wasn't because the citizen erred but because Twitter deleted a message from Buhari's Twitter handle, and they knew what they later faced.

The removal of alleyesonthejudiciary can be justified because they may claim they didn't pay for right to use the board, which may be justifiable.

Note this, every government or authority is under constitutional authority, anything done outside that is authoritarianism and it is unconstitutional.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 1:59pm On Oct 09, 2023
Believeintruth:


Oga there is no allergy to the truth, the real truth which is clear even to you is that you don't have sense

You're the most senseless person I've come across on this forum
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 2:03pm On Oct 09, 2023
Believeintruth:


Oga there is no allergy to the truth, the real truth which is clear even to you is that you don't have sense

Going by your low IQ, calling you stupid is a compliment
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by MomohMrMoore: 2:20pm On Oct 09, 2023
Lol.. Tinubu government trying to.... what is Atiku government or Obi government trying to do.. Obi supporters
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Vision101(m): 3:55pm On Oct 09, 2023
@IfnobeGod20
Are you aware that Tinubu wasn't even ripe to collect a replacement of certificate? Because he never collected the original certificate printed for him by the school, meaning if he had applied as he supposed to be, the school would have alerted him that his original is still available and there will be no need applying for replacement. I can freely tell you that Tinubu is dubious to say the least. How would somebody graduated from a school but didn't collect his certificate but all he can think of is replacement of what he didn't collect?
A man that went to Chatham House to brag to the world that he has collected his certificate from CSU. The question now is, at what time did he collect his certificate from CSU that CSU didn't know that the registrar had to say in deposition in court that his original certificate is still in his file? When you're dubious, you're dubious.


@me
All these that you are saying are personal opinion. I have stated the position of law. Counter it. Americans have told us that they don't care about certificate. That it's ceremonial. That a lot of their students don't collect theirs. That if you apply for a job just give your details to your employers and they will verify direct from your school.

I guess that this was what tinubu did when he worked in Deloitte and ExxonMobil.

Atiku thought that it could be proven that tinubu didn't attend the school. He got the opposite. He's aware that what he got could not fly then he decided to wipe up public sentiment calling everyone to gange up with him.

Off course in this era of social media every Tom Dick and Harry will. The knowledgeable and the not knowledgeable.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by IfnobeGod20: 6:27pm On Oct 09, 2023
Vision101:
@IfnobeGod20
Are you aware that Tinubu wasn't even ripe to collect a replacement of certificate? Because he never collected the original certificate printed for him by the school, meaning if he had applied as he supposed to be, the school would have alerted him that his original is still available and there will be no need applying for replacement. I can freely tell you that Tinubu is dubious to say the least. How would somebody graduated from a school but didn't collect his certificate but all he can think of is replacement of what he didn't collect?
A man that went to Chatham House to brag to the world that he has collected his certificate from CSU. The question now is, at what time did he collect his certificate from CSU that CSU didn't know that the registrar had to say in deposition in court that his original certificate is still in his file? When you're dubious, you're dubious.


@me
All these that you are saying are personal opinion. I have stated the position of law. Counter it. Americans have told us that they don't care about certificate. That it's ceremonial. That a lot of their students don't collect theirs. That if you apply for a job just give your details to your employers and they will verify direct from your school.

I guess that this was what tinubu did when he worked in Deloitte and ExxonMobil.

Atiku thought that it could be proven that tinubu didn't attend the school. He got the opposite. He's aware that what he got could not fly then he decided to wipe up public sentiment calling everyone to gange up with him.

Off course in this era of social media every Tom Dick and Harry will. The knowledgeable and the not knowledgeable.
Which position of the law are you referring to? Did Tinubu apply to be America president or Nigeria president? Nigeria require that you should submit your certificate. Non usage of certificate for employment in America cannot be equate to Nigeria way of life. For the school to have produced the certificates, they knew there are some countries that take usage of certificate as prerequisite and that was why the CSU said it was a Nigeria thing to use certificate because in US it is just a ceremonial thing.
Now, if a university called it a ceremonial certificate and the institution still finds it convenient to still produce same ceremonial certificate for her students after graduation and even made provision for its replacement if need be, then, quote that law that says the certificate is useless and not useful. Ok did the university says any of her students can go and forge the certificate at will, that is capital NO.
I remember during cross examination of that cloud engineer presented by LP, when she was asked of her I.D and she said, Amazon don't issue I.D. Why didn't she go and forge one because Amazon doesn't give one. The institution gives certificate and they never encourage any of their student to go forging their certificate and that was why they said they cannot authenticate what they didn't give.
The question now is, why didn't Tinubu collect the original of his certificate but went for counterfeit? You have not collected original but looking for replacement, does that makes sense to any reasonable human being?

Mr. Man, I don't think Atiku ever said Tinubu didn't attend CSU but he was more particular about the inconveniences observed in the certificates Tinubu submitted to INEC and that was what he got. Was Tinubu certificate the same with CSU Verizon issued to others of the same class?

I am even perturbed that many of you are not even talking about Tinubu using non-existent secondary school that he said he graduated from in 1970. That wasn't your concern, how a man will claim what he is not. Same way he used secondary and primary schools that he didn't attend to aid his governorship qualification in 1999. All these doesn't bother you people because the man in you died a long time ago. What kind of legacy you people want to leave for your children that you give defence on undefendable issue. I just pity you guys.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Vision101(m): 8:47pm On Oct 09, 2023
@IfnobeGod20
Which position of the law are you referring to? Did Tinubu apply to be America president or Nigeria president? Nigeria require that you should submit your certificate. Non usage of certificate for employment in America cannot be equate to Nigeria way of life. For the school to have produced the certificates, they knew there are some countries that take usage of certificate as prerequisite and that was why the CSU said it was a Nigeria thing to use certificate because in US it is just a ceremonial thing.
Now, if a university called it a ceremonial certificate and the institution still finds it convenient to still produce same ceremonial certificate for her students after graduation and even made provision for its replacement if need be, then, quote that law that says the certificate is useless and not useful. Ok did the university says any of her students can go and forge the certificate at will, that is capital NO.
I remember during cross examination of that cloud engineer presented by LP, when she was asked of her I.D and she said, Amazon don't issue I.D. Why didn't she go and forge one because Amazon doesn't give one. The institution gives certificate and they never encourage any of their student to go forging their certificate and that was why they said they cannot authenticate what they didn't give.
The question now is, why didn't Tinubu collect the original of his certificate but went for counterfeit? You have not collected original but looking for replacement, does that makes sense to any reasonable human being?

Mr. Man, I don't think Atiku ever said Tinubu didn't attend CSU but he was more particular about the inconveniences observed in the certificates Tinubu submitted to INEC and that was what he got. Was Tinubu certificate the same with CSU Verizon issued to others of the same class?

I am even perturbed that many of you are not even talking about Tinubu using non-existent secondary school that he said he graduated from in 1970. That wasn't your concern, how a man will claim what he is not. Same way he used secondary and primary schools that he didn't attend to aid his governorship qualification in 1999. All these doesn't bother you people because the man in you died a long time ago. What kind of legacy you people want to leave for your children that you give defence on undefendable issue. I just pity you guys.


@me
You are bringing another thing altogether different from what I wrote which you replied. You see, when someone's mind is made up he will hardly see the soundness of another person's proposition. I'm simply stating facts and this is it - (I'm repeating what I wrote earlier):

The position of Nigerian criminal law is that whosoever asserts should prove. CSU has confirmed that tinubu attended their school and showed evidence of his performance and graduation. They confirmed that they don't issue replacement certificates and it's only issued by third parties.

If atiku says that the certificate was forged, in law it's his duty to fish out the third party and prove forgery by making the third party to disown it. The burden is not on tinubu but atiku.

Until he does this he should not be talking about forgery. He can even be sued and heavy damages demanded. Ordinary people on social media and the streets can say anything out of ignorance but this is the true position.

Atiku and his lawyers are aware that's why they are resorting to propaganda and noise making.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 5:35am On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


Going by your low IQ, calling you stupid is a compliment

Oga shut up, propaganda no dey sell. I don't care what you think about me, mine is that you don't have sense.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 5:36am On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


You're the most senseless person I've come across on this forum

Oga I don't care what you think about me, but what I know is that you don't have sense.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 7:41am On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


Oga I don't care what you think about me, but what I know is that you don't have sense.

Each time you send a message, you expose your deep ignorance, folly and stupidity to the extent that even an orangutan's IQ is higher than yours
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 7:43am On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


Oga shut up, propaganda no dey sell. I don't care what you think about me, mine is that you don't have sense.

This dirty and slimy character 🤢 🤮 again

You're fast becoming deranged with the nonsense you vomit 🤢
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 7:46am On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


Oga I don't care what you think about me, but what I know is that you don't have sense.

You're a nobody and a pure waste of my precious time.

You're a nobody and you won't amount to anything with the way you're going.

If you want to achieve anything decent in life, change your ways.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 8:34am On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


You're a nobody and a pure waste of my precious time.

You're a nobody and you won't amount to anything with the way you're going.

If you want to achieve anything decent in life, change your ways.

See a nobody calling someone a Nobody.... grin grin grin grin grin grin grin wonders shall never end. Oga just face it you don't have sense at all
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 8:35am On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


This dirty and slimy character 🤢 🤮 again

You're fast becoming deranged with the nonsense you vomit 🤢

grin grin grin grin grin Oga go and rest in shame, you don't have sense at all.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 8:36am On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


Each time you send a message, you expose your deep ignorance, folly and stupidity to the extent that even an orangutan's IQ is higher than yours

Na you get your mouth, your opinion of me doesn't count at all, i don't even rate it at all. The main koko is that you don't have sense.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 8:39am On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


See a nobody calling someone a Nobody.... grin grin grin grin grin grin grin wonders shall never end. Oga just face it you don't have sense at all

Since I am a nobody according to you, may you never and never achieve 1% of what I have achieved in every area of life. Iseee!
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 8:40am On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


See a nobody calling someone a Nobody.... grin grin grin grin grin grin grin wonders shall never end. Oga just face it you don't have sense at all

Since I am a nobody according to you, may you never and never achieve 1% of what I have achieved and/or attained in every area of life. Iseee!
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 8:56am On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


Since I am a nobody according to you, may you never and never achieve 1% of what I have achieved and/or attained in every area of life. Iseee!

See anyone making so much noise about what he or she has achieved online like you is clearly a nobody. Me i cannot descend to that level because people who have achieved so much don't talk or blow their gong anyhow.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 9:13am On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


See anyone making so much noise about what he or she has achieved online like you is clearly a nobody. Me i cannot descend to that level because people who have achieved so much don't talk or blow their gong anyhow.

Again, since you said I'm a nobody, you shall never achieve 1% of everything that my nobody has achieved.

It's not about bragging because I've not been specific about it and you were the one who started with N30,000 per month. Or have you forgotten?

I repeat, you shall never ever in your lifetime achieve 1% of what I've achieved as a nobody.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 9:53am On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


Again, since you said I'm a nobody, you shall never achieve 1% of everything that my nobody has achieved.

It's not about bragging because I've not been specific about it and you were the one who started with N30,000 per month. Or have you forgotten?

I repeat, you shall never ever in your lifetime achieve 1% of what I've achieved as a nobody.

Please ehnnn stop showing yourself, you called me a nobody first and you are now vexing because i struck a nerve by calling you the true reflection of who you are. Oga you are really showing signs of someone who needs help really.
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 10:54am On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


Please ehnnn stop showing yourself, you called me a nobody first and you are now vexing because i struck a nerve by calling you the true reflection of who you are. Oga you are really showing signs of someone who needs help really.

Thank you

I've said my own and the words shall come to pass!

Simple
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Believeintruth: 1:09pm On Oct 10, 2023
Globad:


Thank you

I've said my own and the words shall come to pass!

Simple

You are not God and if you wish someone bad, the same bad will come to you(Evil to him, who wishes evil to someone).
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by Globad(f): 3:12pm On Oct 10, 2023
Believeintruth:


You are not God and if you wish someone bad, the same bad will come to you(Evil to him, who wishes evil to someone).

You looked for it
Re: Tinubu Govt Planning To Gag Media Ahead Of Release Of FBI Files – Atiku’s Aide by IfnobeGod20: 4:44am On Oct 11, 2023
Vision101:
@IfnobeGod20
Which position of the law are you referring to? Did Tinubu apply to be America president or Nigeria president? Nigeria require that you should submit your certificate. Non usage of certificate for employment in America cannot be equate to Nigeria way of life. For the school to have produced the certificates, they knew there are some countries that take usage of certificate as prerequisite and that was why the CSU said it was a Nigeria thing to use certificate because in US it is just a ceremonial thing.
Now, if a university called it a ceremonial certificate and the institution still finds it convenient to still produce same ceremonial certificate for her students after graduation and even made provision for its replacement if need be, then, quote that law that says the certificate is useless and not useful. Ok did the university says any of her students can go and forge the certificate at will, that is capital NO.
I remember during cross examination of that cloud engineer presented by LP, when she was asked of her I.D and she said, Amazon don't issue I.D. Why didn't she go and forge one because Amazon doesn't give one. The institution gives certificate and they never encourage any of their student to go forging their certificate and that was why they said they cannot authenticate what they didn't give.
The question now is, why didn't Tinubu collect the original of his certificate but went for counterfeit? You have not collected original but looking for replacement, does that makes sense to any reasonable human being?

Mr. Man, I don't think Atiku ever said Tinubu didn't attend CSU but he was more particular about the inconveniences observed in the certificates Tinubu submitted to INEC and that was what he got. Was Tinubu certificate the same with CSU Verizon issued to others of the same class?

I am even perturbed that many of you are not even talking about Tinubu using non-existent secondary school that he said he graduated from in 1970. That wasn't your concern, how a man will claim what he is not. Same way he used secondary and primary schools that he didn't attend to aid his governorship qualification in 1999. All these doesn't bother you people because the man in you died a long time ago. What kind of legacy you people want to leave for your children that you give defence on undefendable issue. I just pity you guys.


@me
You are bringing another thing altogether different from what I wrote which you replied. You see, when someone's mind is made up he will hardly see the soundness of another person's proposition. I'm simply stating facts and this is it - (I'm repeating what I wrote earlier):

The position of Nigerian criminal law is that whosoever asserts should prove. CSU has confirmed that tinubu attended their school and showed evidence of his performance and graduation. They confirmed that they don't issue replacement certificates and it's only issued by third parties.

If atiku says that the certificate was forged, in law it's his duty to fish out the third party and prove forgery by making the third party to disown it. The burden is not on tinubu but atiku.

Until he does this he should not be talking about forgery. He can even be sued and heavy damages demanded. Ordinary people on social media and the streets can say anything out of ignorance but this is the true position.

Atiku and his lawyers are aware that's why they are resorting to propaganda and noise making.
I want to put it to you that ignorance is killing you and you didn't know. CSU had never claimed it gives authority to any third party to produce its certificate for any student. I want you to point out where CSU said so that the world will read it. Every detail is contained in the deposition made by the registrar of CSU to the court and there was nowhere the school claimed its gave authority for its certificate to be produce by third party.
Mr. Man, third party doesn't have sole right to produce certificate, the way you people are viewing it. They only serves as middlemen, just as agbero in the garage. Any certificate replacement, the student will still apply to the school, pay the prescribed fee of $26 and the school made it abundantly clear that Tinubu never applied for replacement in their deposition. All Atiku need doing is to deposit the registrar's deposition to assert his claim of forgery, since the school said, they don't have the one Tinubu submitted to INEC in their file and hence they cannot authenticate it. It would now be left for Tinubu to counter that by bringing where he got the certificate from and not Atiku. The school has given Atiku leverage by saying they cannot authenticate the certificate and they don't have a copy of it with them.
Let me burst your bubbles. Do you know that the school agreed that Tinubu's certificate is quite different from the 1979 set certificate issued but only have resemblance of 1999 set certificate. The question is, did Tinubu graduated in 1999?
Again, the school also claimed that Tinubu has not even collected his certificate because they still find it inside his file. The question is, why didn't Tinubu not collect his certificate but want a replacement? If Tinubu did follow the procedure to obtaining replacement won't the school had told him that his original is still in his file and he needs not to apply for replacement? Tinubu went through the backdoor to get the supposedly replaced certificate while those that did it for him went to do a copy of 1999 set instead of 1979 set and at that the logo, the seal and the signatory were still error laced.

Read keenly the registrar deposition and this time slowly and steadily, don't be in the rush and follow it intelligently. You can check second poster, items 5 to 8 and read the reply of the registrar and stop confusing yourself and the people. Read again the items that follow where the registrar also attested that their are many companies that engage in doing fake certificate in US and he said that can be found on net because he doesn't have their names handy.
Please you've not talked about Tinubu using non-existent secondary school to aid his admission into CSU. What can you say about that and don't forget he used another schools in 1999 that he never went to to aid his governorship election that year. Why should a man life be filled with confusion like this and you people will have the temerity to splash salt on people talking about his misdeeds.

Please next time learn to quote comment correctly and don't copy the whole comment to join yours, it makes no sense doing that.

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