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Russia And Israel by opicgif: 7:19am On Oct 18, 2023
In the past 500+ days of the Russia Ukraine war, about 500+ children have been killed

International criminal Court issued arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin

In about 1 week, more than 500 Palestinian children have been killed by Israel

Why has ICC not issued arrest warrants?

How come the world "stands by Israel"

Those children were not terrorists.

Yesterday, at least 500 have been killed in a hospital in Gaza. The Israeli Prime Minister, tweeted about killing "children of hate"
The prime ministers media aide tweeted about Israel Airforce bombing the hospital

Both of them have deleted their tweets.


LIFE IS NOT, AND WILL NEVER BE FAIR

In our places of work, in church, in every social setting, there'll always be a "we" Vs "them"

It's all a game. Last week the Israeli Prime Minister said "Muslims convinced Adolf Hitler to kill jews"

Who would believe that a jew can say this.
Kanye West was cancelled globally for saying less.

Don't hate the game. Play it.

Just thinking out loud.

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Re: Russia And Israel by SoNature(m): 7:32am On Oct 18, 2023
Hamas went too far. Every powerful country kept saying that Israel has a right to defend themselves. However, the US has tried to reduce the collateral damage by ensuring that Israel doesn't cut off water supply to Gaza.

I always liken what's happening to civilians in Gaza to what's happening in Nigéria's South East. The separatists get into a fight they cannot win by killing security operatives and the poorly trained security operatives take out their frustrations on innocent citizens.

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Re: Russia And Israel by CandyOps(m): 7:50am On Oct 18, 2023
SoNature:
Hamas went too far. Every powerful country kept saying that Israel has a right to defend themselves. However, the US has tried to reduce the collateral damage by ensuring that Israel doesn't cut off water supply to Gaza.

I always liken what's happening to civilians in Gaza to what's happening in Nigéria's South East. The separatists get into a fight they cannot win by killing security operatives and the poorly trained security operatives take out their frustrations on innocent citizens.

Perfect description. That's why when I see any Easterner supporting Isreal in this conflict, I just shake my head in disbelief because it's almost the same scenario as the Naija Biafra war but different narrative.

UN and NATO dey vex say Russia dey hammer Ukarine so them decide to use Gaza collect their pound of flesh... as them be Russian allies .

It's just like when I beat you for fight. You come go dey attack my in-laws them people. Because tell me why UN dey ship ammunitions to Isreal for support come still dey send aids to Gaza?

Besides, if you ask me, I'll say the Hamas thing was also a coordinated attack sponsored by UN... just like they do with every mercenaries to cause war in enemy states

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Re: Russia And Israel by babajero(m): 9:03am On Oct 18, 2023
CandyOps:


Perfect description. That's why when I see any Easterner supporting Isreal in this conflict, I just shake my head in disbelief because it's almost the same scenario as the Naija Biafra war but different narrative.

UN and NATO dey vex say Russia dey hammer Ukarine so them decide to use Gaza collect their pound of flesh... as them be Russian allies .

It's just like when I beat you for fight. You come go dey attack my in-laws them people. Because tell me why UN dey ship ammunitions to Isreal for support come still dey send aids to Gaza?

Besides, if you ask me, I'll say the Hamas thing was also a coordinated attack sponsored by UN... just like they do with every mercenaries to cause war in enemy states
That is one thing about you Muslims always looking for a way to blame those attacked by Muslims instead of the fellow Muslims who did it.

Hamas attacked Israel, mind you hamas is not just some non-state terrorist organization, hamas is actually the government of the day in Palestine, and when they went to Israel killing everything at sight that is including women and children while shouting Allah Akbar I believe you all were in your houses shouting same thing too, but when Israel retaliated you start posting propaganda pictures and videos looking for public sympathy.

Muslims killed and burnt a student in Nigeria here, instead of blaming those who carried out the barbaric act, instead the Muslims started blaming the innocent victim.

Islam is evil and Muslims are its product, because your book outrightly called for the extermination of the Jews.

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Re: Russia And Israel by opicgif: 9:11am On Oct 18, 2023
SoNature:
Hamas went too far. Every powerful country kept saying that Israel has a right to defend themselves. However, the US has tried to reduce the collateral damage by ensuring that Israel doesn't cut off water supply to Gaza.

I always liken what's happening to civilians in Gaza to what's happening in Nigéria's South East. The separatists get into a fight they cannot win by killing security operatives and the poorly trained security operatives take out their frustrations on innocent citizens.

True
Re: Russia And Israel by SUPERPACK: 9:20am On Oct 18, 2023
babajero:
That is one thing about you Muslims always looking for a way to blame those attacked by Muslims instead of the fellow Muslims who did it.

Hamas attacked Israel, mind you hamas is not just some non-state terrorist organization, hamas is actually the government of the day in Palestine, and when they went to Israel killing everything at sight that is including women and children while shouting Allah Akbar I believe you all were in your houses shouting same thing too, but when Israel retaliated you start posting propaganda pictures and videos looking for public sympathy.

Muslims killed and burnt a student in Nigeria here, instead of blaming those who carried out the barbaric act, instead the Muslims started blaming the innocent victim.

Islam is evil and Muslims are its product, because your book outrightly called for the extermination of the Jews.
As if the Bible did not also call for extermination of unbelievers. The Bible even mandated the father to cast the first stone when his children start believing in other God's sef. Same way Judaism also calls for killing anyone that commits heresy or blasphemy.

Religion is not the problem here but rather lack of education is to blame. The rich have children how many times have you seen there educated children wear Hijab, how many times have you seen them join in killing because of religion, that is because they are educated.

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Re: Russia And Israel by babajero(m): 2:08pm On Oct 18, 2023
SUPERPACK:
As if the Bible did not also call for extermination of unbelievers. The Bible even mandated the father to cast the first stone when his children start believing in other God's sef. Same way Judaism also calls for killing anyone that commits heresy or blasphemy.

Religion is not the problem here but rather lack of education is to blame. The rich have children how many times have you seen there educated children wear Hijab, how many times have you seen them join in killing because of religion, that is because they are educated.
Thanks to God you brought about the Bible, The Old testaments which also can be refered to as the Torah used by the Jews was the law of Moses which advocated for "eye for an eye", but Christians which also can be refered as the followers of Christ or Christlike believe in the teachings of Christ which preached turn the left cheek and love your neighbor as yourself, which is the bases of the New testament.

If the Christians are following the old testament the Muslims would have exterminated by now.

Religion is the problem. Christians can't kill for religious beliefs or reasons, because of the teachings of Christ.
Islam will kill for slight religious reasons or beliefs because of the teachings of Muhammed.
While Jews doesn't forgive for religious beliefs or reasons, because of the teachings of Moses. So religion is the problem.

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Re: Russia And Israel by SUPERPACK: 3:35pm On Oct 18, 2023
babajero:
Thanks to God you brought about the Bible, The Old testaments which also can be refered to as the Torah used by the Jews was the law of Moses which advocated for "eye for an eye", but Christians which also can be refered as the followers of Christ or Christlike believe in the teachings of Christ which preached turn the left cheek and love your neighbor as yourself, which is the bases of the New testament.

If the Christians are following the old testament the Muslims would have exterminated by now.

Religion is the problem. Christians can't kill for religious beliefs or reasons, because of the teachings of Christ.
Islam will kill for slight religious reasons or beliefs because of the teachings of Muhammed.
While Jews doesn't forgive for religious beliefs or reasons, because of the teachings of Moses. So religion is the problem.
Go and read about the crusaders, the Roman Inquisition era, then read about the Christian wars in Europe. Islam is yet to come close to what was done in the name of Christianity when it comes to killings. Have you ever stop to ever think of the person that translated the Bible to English, William Tyndel, who was strangled and burnt on a stake for daring to translate the Bible by the church authority.

Do you also know that majority of the Bible he translated was collected and burnt by the church. Had the Bible not been translated by now a priest can just read the Bible in Latin and interpret any rubbish to his followers telling thing do.

Have you also ever heard of St Johnstone Massacre, that was the largest ever suicide committed by any religion on Earth? It shows you how far Christians can be when the lack knowledge just like uneducated Muslims now.

Religion is not the issue, the issue is when politics is joined into religion like we have now in the middle East and northern Nigeria the result is a nuclear explosion.

For reference Turkey is a 98% Muslim country but they separated religion from politics the result is less violence, more education and development.

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Re: Russia And Israel by babajero(m): 6:57pm On Oct 18, 2023
SUPERPACK:
Go and read about the crusaders, the Roman Inquisition era, then read about the Christian wars in Europe. Islam is yet to come close to what was done in the name of Christianity when it comes to killings. Have you ever stop to ever think of the person that translated the Bible to English, William Tyndel, who was strangled and burnt on a stake for daring to translate the Bible by the church authority.

Do you also know that majority of the Bible he translated was collected and burnt by the church. Had the Bible not been translated by now a priest can just read the Bible in Latin and interpret any rubbish to his followers telling thing do.

Have you also ever heard of St Johnstone Massacre, that was the largest ever suicide committed by any religion on Earth? It shows you how far Christians can be when the lack knowledge just like uneducated Muslims now.

Religion is not the issue, the issue is when politics is joined into religion like we have now in the middle East and northern Nigeria the result is a nuclear explosion.

For reference Turkey is a 98% Muslim country but they separated religion from politics the result is less violence, more education and development.
Go and read about the crusaders, the Roman Inquisition era, then read about the Christian wars in Europe. Islam is yet to come close to what was done in the name of Christianity when it comes to killings. Have you ever stop to ever think of the person that translated the Bible to English, William Tyndel, who was strangled and burnt on a stake for daring to translate the Bible by the church authority.

you are the one that have to read, because if you read you would have known that the crusaders were formed to resist the Islamic onslaughts been carried out by Muslim jihadists wanting to create an empire just like the Romans were doing too.

And the Christian war you wrote about was the Romans which were the head of Roman Catholic trying to suppress any dissenting voice, they wanted to run Christian religion like Islam where one man will go and read something and come and interpret to his gullible followers. even till this day Roman Catholic still have their doctrine.

And you saying that William Tyndale was killed, he was not the only one that was killed by the Romans Jesus Christ and all his disciples were all killed by Romans, Israelites were killed and chased into exile by the Romans.

You talking about killings, the killings that Islam have carried out only from year 2000 till date, even if all the deaths perpetrated by every other religion is put together it won't equal to it.

Do you also know that majority of the Bible he translated was collected and burnt by the church. Had the Bible not been translated by now a priest can just read the Bible in Latin and interpret any rubbish to his followers telling thing do.

And this is the reason why Islam is the greatest threat to human existence, because one man will claim to be a scholar or an imam recite some gibberish deceiving his gullible followers that he is reading Arabic then start spewing trash all in the name that he is interpreting.

Have you also ever heard of St Johnstone Massacre, that was the largest ever suicide committed by any religion on Earth? It shows you how far Christians can be when the lack knowledge just like uneducated Muslims now.

Stop attributing terrorism to lack of education because it is the educated ones in Islam that are more dangerous than the so called uneducated ones, and every religion have an uneducated people but non goes on a killing spree like Islam.

Religion is not the issue, the issue is when politics is joined into religion like we have now in the middle East and northern Nigeria the result is a nuclear explosion.
The main thing is that Islam is not practicing religion at all, it has always been a political cult that the leader was taken over by demons and he started calling himself a prophet.

For reference Turkey is a 98% Muslim country but they separated religion from politics the result is less violence, more education and development.
The Turkey you wrote about was it not through killing and bloodletting that Islam took over that place?

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Re: Russia And Israel by Jane74(f): 7:15pm On Oct 18, 2023
babajero:


you are the one that have to read, because if you read you would have known that the crusaders were formed to resist the Islamic onslaughts been carried out by Muslim jihadists wanting to create an empire just like the Romans were doing too.
grin
It is you who should sit at the school desk and start studying history again.
the Crusades were primarily campaigns for money.

There were many people in Europe without land and without inheritance. But with a gun. At first, the European feudal lords had fun fighting with each other, but then someone came up with a bright idea to send all the extra ones to the Holy Sepulchre.
The Crusaders plundered Constantinople - is it also because the evil Muslims decided to create an empire?The Crusaders under the slogan Deus Vult killed all Jews on the way to the Holy Land. Also probably because Muslims are evil. smiley


You're probably not a European, so you don't know about the Crusades what they teach in Europe.

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Re: Russia And Israel by Jane74(f): 7:35pm On Oct 18, 2023
There is a significant difference between Judaism, on the one hand, and Christianity and Islam, on the other.
In Judaism, the ethical norm is the principle of collective responsibility. One has committed a crime, we will kill them all.
In religions that recognize Jesus Christ, there is another ethical principle - to each according to his deeds.

In addition, even in classical Judaism, according to the principle of collective responsibility, only the Lord punishes people for misdeeds. It is believed that this is how disasters are sent - epidemics, famine, earthquakes, etc. You can read about this in the collection of moral and ethical norms of Judaism - in Pirkei Avot, for example.

And the Zionists of Israel have assumed the authority of the Almighty regarding the Palestinians. Some Palestinians have committed crimes, which means that it is possible and necessary to kill all 2.5 million residents of the Gaza Strip, including infants.

Not the whole world supports Israel. But the entire press, which is controlled by the Zionists and the Americans, pretends that this is so.
For example, the population of Russia does not just not support Israel, people here are extremely, terribly outraged that their former compatriots who speak Russian, having left for Israel, support cannibalism and Nazism.
Russian-speaking Jews from Israel come to the forums to the Russians and begin to shame them, because "as you do not understand, in the Gaza Strip it is possible and necessary to kill everyone, because there are animals there, and babies must be killed, because poisoned adults will grow out of them'

Russia is a Christian country. And there are many Muslims living in it. And not only Russian Christians and Muslims are outraged, the claims of the Zionists to the genocide of the Palestinians on the air are very angry with ALL Christians who face Israelis directly, and not just read Western newspapers.
Catholics are terrified. The Armenian Church is terrified. Non-American Protestants are also terrified.
Moreover, there are also anti-Zionist movements among Jews who protest against the nightmares in Gaza - in Jerusalem they came out with Palestinian flags and attacked the police; in the United States there were demonstrations by Jews who consider Zionism to be evil and apostasy from true Judaism.

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Re: Russia And Israel by SUPERPACK: 7:52pm On Oct 18, 2023
babajero:
Go and read about the crusaders, the Roman Inquisition era, then read about the Christian wars in Europe. Islam is yet to come close to what was done in the name of Christianity when it comes to killings. Have you ever stop to ever think of the person that translated the Bible to English, William Tyndel, who was strangled and burnt on a stake for daring to translate the Bible by the church authority.

you are the one that have to read, because if you read you would have known that the crusaders were formed to resist the Islamic onslaughts been carried out by Muslim jihadists wanting to create an empire just like the Romans were doing too.

And the Christian war you wrote about was the Romans which were the head of Roman Catholic trying to suppress any dissenting voice, they wanted to run Christian religion like Islam where one man will go and read something and come and interpret to his gullible followers. even till this day Roman Catholic still have their doctrine.

And you saying that William Tyndale was killed, he was not the only one that was killed by the Romans Jesus Christ and all his disciples were all killed by Romans, Israelites were killed and chased into exile by the Romans.

You talking about killings, the killings that Islam have carried out only from year 2000 till date, even if all the deaths perpetrated by every other religion is put together it won't equal to it.

Do you also know that majority of the Bible he translated was collected and burnt by the church. Had the Bible not been translated by now a priest can just read the Bible in Latin and interpret any rubbish to his followers telling thing do.

And this is the reason why Islam is the greatest threat to human existence, because one man will claim to be a scholar or an imam recite some gibberish deceiving his gullible followers that he is reading Arabic then start spewing trash all in the name that he is interpreting.

Have you also ever heard of St Johnstone Massacre, that was the largest ever suicide committed by any religion on Earth? It shows you how far Christians can be when the lack knowledge just like uneducated Muslims now.

Stop attributing terrorism to lack of education because it is the educated ones in Islam that are more dangerous than the so called uneducated ones, and every religion have an uneducated people but non goes on a killing spree like Islam.

Religion is not the issue, the issue is when politics is joined into religion like we have now in the middle East and northern Nigeria the result is a nuclear explosion.
The main thing is that Islam is not practicing religion at all, it has always been a political cult that the leader was taken over by demons and he started calling himself a prophet.

For reference Turkey is a 98% Muslim country but they separated religion from politics the result is less violence, more education and development.
The Turkey you wrote about was it not through killing and bloodletting that Islam took over that place?
Turkey was gotten same way Spain was gotten by Christians. It was a time of war, if you win you get the land and the occupants move to another.
Re: Russia And Israel by babajero(m): 10:03pm On Oct 18, 2023
SUPERPACK:
Turkey was gotten same way Spain was gotten by Christians. It was a time of war, if you win you get the land and the occupants move to another.
So who did the Christians got the place from?
Re: Russia And Israel by babajero(m): 10:15pm On Oct 18, 2023
Jane74:

grin
It is you who should sit at the school desk and start studying history again.
the Crusades were primarily campaigns for money.

There were many people in Europe without land and without inheritance. But with a gun. At first, the European feudal lords had fun fighting with each other, but then someone came up with a bright idea to send all the extra ones to the Holy Sepulchre.
The Crusaders plundered Constantinople - is it also because the evil Muslims decided to create an empire?The Crusaders under the slogan Deus Vult killed all Jews on the way to the Holy Land. Also probably because Muslims are evil. smiley


You're probably not a European, so you don't know about the Crusades what they teach in Europe.
Please go and study, the crusades was to push Muslims back, moreover when the crusaders went to holy land the Romans has already captured the place and sent the Jews on exile and the Muslims in return have captured it from the Romans.

Please I believe you have Google on your phone, ignorance is not an excuse.
Re: Russia And Israel by CandyOps(m): 10:31am On Oct 19, 2023
babajero:
That is one thing about you Muslims always looking for a way to blame those attacked by Muslims instead of the fellow Muslims who did it.

Hamas attacked Israel, mind you hamas is not just some non-state terrorist organization, hamas is actually the government of the day in Palestine, and when they went to Israel killing everything at sight that is including women and children while shouting Allah Akbar I believe you all were in your houses shouting same thing too, but when Israel retaliated you start posting propaganda pictures and videos looking for public sympathy.

Muslims killed and burnt a student in Nigeria here, instead of blaming those who carried out the barbaric act, instead the Muslims started blaming the innocent victim.

Islam is evil and Muslims are its product, because your book outrightly called for the extermination of the Jews.

First of all, I'm not religious.
I don't pray to a sky daddy or slam my head on the floors while facing the moon. Neither do I face a brick wall while making incantations.


Second of all, when the Prince wants to invade a place and does that the people will resent him. So what does he do?

He pays miscreants to burn the barn, slaughter the cattle, set fires to the market and burn down the city... then the Prince can set in to eliminate the same criminals he employed.

This is excellent marketing because the people not only love the Prince now but also he has him army on ground now.

That Hamas, just like Boko Har@m can be used like any other paid mercenary group to great havoc. But then this is just a speculation I drew up from the patterns of UN invasion worldwide
Re: Russia And Israel by Somilat: 10:45am On Oct 19, 2023
SoNature:
Hamas went too far.
It didn't go far enough. Anglo-Saxons and Israel have not been dissuaded. Escalation is the only way to stop Zio-Anglo-Saxon mass murderers.
Re: Russia And Israel by babajero(m): 10:59am On Oct 19, 2023
CandyOps:


First of all, I'm not religious.
I don't pray to a sky daddy or slam my head on the floors while facing the moon. Neither do I face a brick wall while making incantations.


Second of all, when the Prince wants to invade a place and does that the people will resent him. So what does he do?

He pays miscreants to burn the barn, slaughter the cattle, set fires to the market and burn down the city... then the Prince can set in to eliminate the same criminals he employed.

This is excellent marketing because the people not only love the Prince now but also he has him army on ground now.

That Hamas, just like Boko Har@m can be used like any other paid mercenary group to great havoc. But then this is just a speculation I drew up from the patterns of UN invasion worldwide
Please this your propagandist analysm or should I say reverse psychology doesn't work with me, I know your type, all I know is that you people should reform your mentality for the betterment of the world and our societies. Islam is too evil minded.
Re: Russia And Israel by omostar: 12:03pm On Oct 19, 2023
SoNature:
Hamas went too far. Every powerful country kept saying that Israel has a right to defend themselves. However, the US has tried to reduce the collateral damage by ensuring that Israel doesn't cut off water supply to Gaza.

I always liken what's happening to civilians in Gaza to what's happening in Nigéria's South East. The separatists get into a fight they cannot win by killing security operatives and the poorly trained security operatives take out their frustrations on innocent citizens.


This is my thought as well and it's funny to me how the South easterners support Israel so vehemently.
Re: Russia And Israel by omostar: 12:10pm On Oct 19, 2023
babajero:
Thanks to God you brought about the Bible, The Old testaments which also can be refered to as the Torah used by the Jews was the law of Moses which advocated for "eye for an eye", but Christians which also can be refered as the followers of Christ or Christlike believe in the teachings of Christ which preached turn the left cheek and love your neighbor as yourself, which is the bases of the New testament.

If the Christians are following the old testament the Muslims would have exterminated by now.

Religion is the problem. Christians can't kill for religious beliefs or reasons, because of the teachings of Christ.
Islam will kill for slight religious reasons or beliefs because of the teachings of Muhammed.
While Jews doesn't forgive for religious beliefs or reasons, because of the teachings of Moses. So religion is the problem.

But they can support, hail and rejoice when some others do smh
Re: Russia And Israel by omostar: 12:17pm On Oct 19, 2023
babajero:
Please this your propagandist analysm or should I say reverse psychology doesn't work with me, I know your type, all I know is that you people should reform your mentality for the betterment of the world and our societies. Islam is too evil minded.

May you receive help then
Re: Russia And Israel by SoNature(m): 12:20pm On Oct 19, 2023
omostar:



This is my thought as well and it's funny to me how the South easterners support Israel so vehemently.

The people of Israel, though not Christians, are important to Christian God. God doesn't joke with them as it was explicitly shown in the Bible. South East is predominantly a Christian region, so it's understandable.

While I wrote that I could liken it, the scenarios aren't exactly the same. The reason is that what fuels agitation in the SE is a sense of lack of inclusiveness. Better still, the lack of fairness, equity and justice that has marred the Nigerian state.

To be clear, Israel and Palestine are two different countries, while SE is a region in Nigeria. While fairness, equity and justice can easily quel the agitation in the SE, the Israel-Palestine issue is way more complicated.

It only takes a military that doesn't see a part of a region as one of their own to open fire on their people because they lost some men in the region. In a sane society, when people commit crimes, security operatives don't take out their frustrations on the entire community.
Instead, they investigate, fish out the culprits and deal with them ruthlessly.

But in Nigeria, soldiers destroy people's houses and rase down an entire community because they lost their men. This has happened several times in Imo State. It has also happened in Bayelsa and Benue. This makes people wonder if they are actually considered a part of a country because no man kills his father because his brother killed his mother. Nigeria is far from a sane society.
Re: Russia And Israel by babajero(m): 3:24pm On Oct 19, 2023
omostar:


But they can support, hail and rejoice when some others do smh
Islam has made enemy for itself right from inception because of it barbaric ways.
Re: Russia And Israel by TOPMAN4LIFE: 4:49pm On Oct 19, 2023
SUPERPACK:
As if the Bible did not also call for extermination of unbelievers. The Bible even mandated the father to cast the first stone when his children start believing in other God's sef. Same way Judaism also calls for killing anyone that commits heresy or blasphemy.

Religion is not the problem here but rather lack of education is to blame. The rich have children how many times have you seen there educated children wear Hijab, how many times have you seen them join in killing because of religion, that is because they are educated.
The part of old testament bible where 'an eye for an eye ' is no more practiced in Christianity because Jesus Christ came to tell to love our neighbors, to forgive our offenders etc.
If not because Jesus thought us to love and forgive our neighbors, Muslim especially in Nigeria would have been paid back for all the killings against Christians, but anytime evil like killings was carried out against Christians communities, they try to forgive and leave it for God.
It's the lack of teaching on love and forgiveness that is making many Muslim countries to be fighting within and against themselves and also fighting other nations of the world.
That's why Muslim countries have met the
There are many laws in the old testament bible that Jesus Christ changed, e.g God said in Old testament that fornication and adultery is a sin but Jesus goes further by saying if you look at a woman lustfully, you have already committed sin.
Re: Russia And Israel by omostar: 3:13pm On Oct 20, 2023
babajero:
Islam has made enemy for itself right from inception because of it barbaric ways.

Let's face it , all civilizations were barbaric, even uptill now. And in history, Islamic barbarism is nothing compared to the others.

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