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Boko Aram Christians by thinkmoney(m): 4:10pm On Oct 22, 2023
Boko Aram Christians (religious zealots).

...you haven’t been able to understand the perspective I give my opinion on both politics and and religion from.
Maybe it will help if you first understand that I do not have one shred of undue sentiments for any tribe or religion.
Again you must know that culturally and politically, I identify far more with Israel than Palestine. Because Israel is a democracy and they subscribe more to the western culture of liberalism.
Palestine on the other hand like many other Muslim countries tend to be authoritarian.

I, especially on religious issues do not try to propagate my views but I only espouse pure bible positions on things. I make a lot of references to the Bible.
Many Christians do not “understand the times”. They do not understand Gods workings and how it graduates from one era to another. They obviously do not understand context.

I have been making my posts on this issue solely based on 3 reasons:

1. My fervent passion to exonerate Christ and make the real truth of his words known to even Muslims.

2. I want to shame many Christians into seeing how they are not much different to Boko Aram.

3. I like u here, do not like wars and killings.

To elaborate on those points:
1. Mainstream Christians do have a limited understanding of the Bible that they are unwittingly painting Jesus and his bible as a partial side taker in wars and killing.
This Christians are in a way making it to look like Jesus isn’t the one that created even the people in Palestine. What this Christians are not doing is that they aren’t trying to put themselves in the place of Palestine and imagine Jesus supporting the state of Israel to kill them Christians, just because they by accident of nature were born in a geographical location called Palestine.

2. I do understand to a very large degree the story of Palestine possibly even more than Donald Trump (he doesn’t know much).
I grew up with plenty different colorful books about politics, countries and history. We had a small library that was put in place in my house even before I was born. I had books for toys and I read books way more than I watched movies. As a deeper lifer, we didn’t have access to VHS recorder at all until way into adulthood. We only watched ball, wrestling and listen to NTA news on TVs (that’s too wasn’t allowed in Deeper life then, but we had TVs anyways, but no VHS).
It was this colorful books that became my films. There was especially a special book called “Joy of knowledge”. You can research it. I haven’t seen it anywhere else. We had about 20editions. Because of this book I understand perfectly the aerodynamics behind plane. I can easily build an helicopter (just the one that can fly ofcourse). I also know how to make crude missiles that I can time to fly before exploding using fine gunpowder and gunpowder in granular (big) forms. This gunpowder I can make from cassava.
It’s this book and sevaral others that exposed me to the history and politics of the world from the red America Indians, Incas to the ruling houses of Britain and Austria-Hungary.
So I very much before now understand the issues around Israel and Palestine.
Israel were away from Palestine for about 2000 years. Rome put a penalty of death on any Jew that ever step feet on Palestine. They were driven to other places even to the extremities of the earth and came close to extinction.
During this time, other people that weren’t even responsible for pursuing them came into and established Palestine. The land didn’t lay bare. This people in those thousands of years, built houses, cultivated gardens, raised up places of worship and even attempted at different times to set up monarchies.
It was in the 1800 that Jews through the Zionism movement started coming back in waves to Palestine. Before then the presence of Jews in Palestine was close to insignificant. It was then especially after the horror of the holocaust, which again this Palestinians know nothing about that, a prime minister of England fueled by some apocalyptic and evangelical understanding of the Bible teamed up with some other Europeans to help Israel get a state in Palestine. The original agreement however was for a 2states.
Understandingly, Palestinians resisted this moves as it was part of what has become their land that was going to be given to this Jews. In fact, the Jews that because of massive intentional migration were just still about 30percent to that point were given about 53% of the land. (Please be following and pretend you are not even a Christian to try and fathom the justice in this arrangement).
Eventually after much conflicts, a negotiated agreements was reached between the two parties and this whole thing was supervised and monitored by the UN.
But since then, the State of Israel have systematically gone back on this agreements and never showed sincerity in giving Palestine the area the agreement allotted to them or allow the Palestine’s that have been displaced to other countries return or share Jerusalem with them. Palestine till today haven’t gained a country of their own.
This present Prime minister is the most fanatic and extreme of the leaders Israel have gotten since David Gurion. Under him, lands against UN whatever, keep get taking away constantly in the West Bank. The religious site of Palestine keeps getting desecrated.
Palestinians and Hamas especially are radicals and extremists too. But then they do not even have the means of hurting Israel. This present succesful attacks from them was like first in about 50years. In fact, Israel have killed much more Palestinians than Palestinians can ever do.
My position like South African positions and other countries that are not tied by some religious and sentimental attachment to Israel is that the violence will be mitigated if Palestinians are seen as deserving of some rights, dignity and Land.

3. I do not like wars and killings.
Israel have reacted in a disproportional way to the attack by Hamas. In every recent conflicts, Israel end up killing about 20x more Palestinians before they stop.
If this rate of Israel attack is sustained and especially if the ground invasion go through, then this war in two months may get more victims than Russia Ukraine war that is just entering its second year.
It most be noted that it is fallacy on the part of Israel or its backers to think they can end resistance for once through force.

Christians that erroneously support Israel and back them because they tied them ignorantly to some prophecies can’t in anyway continue to judge Boko Aram, ISIS and other religious fundamentalists and terrorists. It would be BIG HYPOCRISY, as this people too 100% believe they have religious and prophetic backings to kill. So who is going to say his own version of religious killing is the valid one. I say SHIOR!

I try with my posts to educate and provoke thinking. I write so I can show Muslims to disregard Christians backing Israel just on religious bases as terrorists, as the Real Christ and his Bible do not have anything to do with the savage killings going on anywhere. In fact his wish and plan is to come and stop killings entirely.
Re: Boko Aram Christians by Nobody: 4:15pm On Oct 22, 2023
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Re: Boko Aram Christians by Mrfeel: 5:05pm On Oct 22, 2023
thinkmoney:
Boko Aram Christians (religious zealots).

...you haven’t been able to understand the perspective I give my opinion on both politics and and religion from.
Maybe it will help if you first understand that I do not have one shred of undue sentiments for any tribe or religion.
Again you must know that culturally and politically, I identify far more with Israel than Palestine. Because Israel is a democracy and they subscribe more to the western culture of liberalism.
Palestine on the other hand like many other Muslim countries tend to be authoritarian.

I, especially on religious issues do not try to propagate my views but I only espouse pure bible positions on things. I make a lot of references to the Bible.
Many Christians do not “understand the times”. They do not understand Gods workings and how it graduates from one era to another. They obviously do not understand context.

I have been making my posts on this issue solely based on 3 reasons:

1. My fervent passion to exonerate Christ and make the real truth of his words known to even Muslims.

2. I want to shame many Christians into seeing how they are not much different to Boko Aram.

3. I like u here, do not like wars and killings.

To elaborate on those points:
1. Mainstream Christians do have a limited understanding of the Bible that they are unwittingly painting Jesus and his bible as a partial side taker in wars and killing.
This Christians are in a way making it to look like Jesus isn’t the one that created even the people in Palestine. What this Christians are not doing is that they aren’t trying to put themselves in the place of Palestine and imagine Jesus supporting the state of Israel to kill them Christians, just because they by accident of nature were born in a geographical location called Palestine.

2. I do understand to a very large degree the story of Palestine possibly even more than Donald Trump (he doesn’t know much).
I grew up with plenty different colorful books about politics, countries and history. We had a small library that was put in place in my house even before I was born. I had books for toys and I read books way more than I watched movies. As a deeper lifer, we didn’t have access to VHS recorder at all until way into adulthood. We only watched ball, wrestling and listen to NTA news on TVs (that’s too wasn’t allowed in Deeper life then, but we had TVs anyways, but no VHS).
It was this colorful books that became my films. There was especially a special book called “Joy of knowledge”. You can research it. I haven’t seen it anywhere else. We had about 20editions. Because of this book I understand perfectly the aerodynamics behind plane. I can easily build an helicopter (just the one that can fly ofcourse). I also know how to make crude missiles that I can time to fly before exploding using fine gunpowder and gunpowder in granular (big) forms. This gunpowder I can make from cassava.
It’s this book and sevaral others that exposed me to the history and politics of the world from the red America Indians, Incas to the ruling houses of Britain and Austria-Hungary.
So I very much before now understand the issues around Israel and Palestine.
Israel were away from Palestine for about 2000 years. Rome put a penalty of death on any Jew that ever step feet on Palestine. They were driven to other places even to the extremities of the earth and came close to extinction.
During this time, other people that weren’t even responsible for pursuing them came into and established Palestine. The land didn’t lay bare. This people in those thousands of years, built houses, cultivated gardens, raised up places of worship and even attempted at different times to set up monarchies.
It was in the 1800 that Jews through the Zionism movement started coming back in waves to Palestine. Before then the presence of Jews in Palestine was close to insignificant. It was then especially after the horror of the holocaust, which again this Palestinians know nothing about that, a prime minister of England fueled by some apocalyptic and evangelical understanding of the Bible teamed up with some other Europeans to help Israel get a state in Palestine. The original agreement however was for a 2states.
Understandingly, Palestinians resisted this moves as it was part of what has become their land that was going to be given to this Jews. In fact, the Jews that because of massive intentional migration were just still about 30percent to that point were given about 53% of the land. (Please be following and pretend you are not even a Christian to try and fathom the justice in this arrangement).
Eventually after much conflicts, a negotiated agreements was reached between the two parties and this whole thing was supervised and monitored by the UN.
But since then, the State of Israel have systematically gone back on this agreements and never showed sincerity in giving Palestine the area the agreement allotted to them or allow the Palestine’s that have been displaced to other countries return or share Jerusalem with them. Palestine till today haven’t gained a country of their own.
This present Prime minister is the most fanatic and extreme of the leaders Israel have gotten since David Gurion. Under him, lands against UN whatever, keep get taking away constantly in the West Bank. The religious site of Palestine keeps getting desecrated.
Palestinians and Hamas especially are radicals and extremists too. But then they do not even have the means of hurting Israel. This present succesful attacks from them was like first in about 50years. In fact, Israel have killed much more Palestinians than Palestinians can ever do.
My position like South African positions and other countries that are not tied by some religious and sentimental attachment to Israel is that the violence will be mitigated if Palestinians are seen as deserving of some rights, dignity and Land.

3. I do not like wars and killings.
Israel have reacted in a disproportional way to the attack by Hamas. In every recent conflicts, Israel end up killing about 20x more Palestinians before they stop.
If this rate of Israel attack is sustained and especially if the ground invasion go through, then this war in two months may get more victims than Russia Ukraine war that is just entering its second year.
It most be noted that it is fallacy on the part of Israel or its backers to think they can end resistance for once through force.

Christians that erroneously support Israel and back them because they tied them ignorantly to some prophecies can’t in anyway continue to judge Boko Aram, ISIS and other religious fundamentalists and terrorists. It would be BIG HYPOCRISY, as this people too 100% believe they have religious and prophetic backings to kill. So who is going to say his own version of religious killing is the valid one. I say SHIOR!

I try with my posts to educate and provoke thinking. I write so I can show Muslims to disregard Christians backing Israel just on religious bases as terrorists, as the Real Christ and his Bible do not have anything to do with the savage killings going on anywhere. In fact his wish and plan is to come and stop killings entirely.
Isrealist Jews fought wars many many centuries before Jesus Christ came to this world and they are still fighting wars thousands of years after he left , so whether Christians support isreal or Muslims or not these wars must happen , Jesus Christ himself knew that there will be wars

He knew , nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and earthquakes famines and troubles sorrows.etc

It's part of human nature
Re: Boko Aram Christians by MadamExcellency: 5:36pm On Oct 22, 2023
How many people have you prayed for and they receive their miracles?

Mark 16:17-18 KJV
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; [18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

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