Haynnie:
■ Where i sat observing what was going on my mind drifted away from reality as the thought of being a christain has any material/physical benefit to go with. Especially for the poo christains trying to find their way to the top through the 'right/legal' path.
■ If we are being honest with ourselves we all kinda think we are under a system that controls both our sense of view and how we live. Like there's a force behind limiting our mental capabilities to think outside the box or break from the orthodox reality we are locked in.
■ Mind you, i'm not in any form to offend, discourage you as these are just what i think and can be rhetoric since there's no right answer to it. It's just a thought!

Haynnie:
Where i sat observing what was going on my mind drifted away from reality as the thought of being a christain has any material/physical benefit to go with. Especially for the poor christains trying to find their way to the top through the 'right/legal' path. If we are being honest with ourselves we all kinda think we are under a system that controls both our sense of view and how we live. Like there's a force behind limiting our mental capabilities to think outside the box or break from the orthodox reality we are locked in.
Mind you, i'm not in any form to offend, discourage you as these are just what i think and can be rhetoric since there's no right answer to it. It's just a thought!

Haynnie:
The times we go to church and there's either a special service/ programme hosted that has to do with inviting other guest pastors to come preach and it gets to the point of where they start calling for a seed to be sowed into the ministry of God and it starts with a fixed price till it gets to the lowest denomination. Don't you sometimes ask yourself the prayers/anointing that are specially made for those who sowed the highest amount of money isn't it same prayers that are being said for those that sowed from the little they have? Why segregate them?

The sense of poor christains giving to the bank of the church while they are hungry, pastor lay their hands on their head to tell them they will be blessed and they claim 'amen' still their lives continue as they were. Why are they still attending church instead of finding their way to prosper or woke to the fact that their pennies are what is enriching the church while they cope with religious beliefs?

MaxInDHouse:
You need to know the real Christians it's not about going to church!

jaephoenix:

No we wont. We don't want our kids molest@d

Haynnie:
■ I'll Keep on asking, what are the material benefit for being a contented christain devoted to the services of God when an unbeliever/sinner is busy doing any means to secure the things (Wealth, power, fame, materialistic value etc.) of this world? Aside the popular saying, "Your reward is in heaven" that serve as a comping mechanism for believers do you really think there's really hope for poor christains making it through without soiling their pride to the doing of this world?
Let's see from a perspective of a church where the poor attends a church alongside with the rich, both praying for protection, grace and also the prayer to prosper in riches and in glory. First, the mindset of most poor christains are, praying to God for these things to come into their life as they believe God's supplication is sufficient to meet their needs while they put little or no effort to their labour. The thinking mechanism is triggered by their "beliefs" resting assured that things will fall in place as they continue praying. But you see the rich praying that same prayer isn't because they tied their beliefs to it either happening but they put their thinking, skill and wisdom into whatever thing that brings forth prosperity to their table. Their only prayer is long life, protection and sound health to enjoyed all they have amassed in wealth for them and their family to enjoy in a long run. If only theere was a source where lives can be bought I'm sure they would never fit themselves into any religious group since they have the source to long life. This the same across every religion and Christianity is no different.!
■ Another aspect I took sightings from is at the pastors who are the leaders ordained to direct christains according to the path of Christ. What can we see as of today's church leaders? Are they leading by example or they are carried away by the materialism of this world? Nowadays is hard to see a Bible believing church preaching about end time. Is always about having financial freedom, financial blessings, building heavens kingdom to unlock financial breakthrough, sowing and reaping and all that's to it.
They are even making more emphasis to paying of 'tithe' is more like every Sunday it is preached even when the sermon is unrelated to it. Are these part of the plan or today's world is evolving to another order of living?

Haynnie:

I'll Keep on asking, what are the material benefit for being a contented christain devoted to the services of God when an unbeliever/sinner is busy doing any means to secure the things (Wealth, power, fame, materialistic value etc.) of this world?

You need to know the real Christians it's not about going to church!

Haynnie:
Where i sat observing what was going on my mind drifted away from reality as the thought of being a christain has any material/physical benefit to go with. Especially for the poo christains trying to find their way to the top through the 'right/legal' path. If we are being honest with ourselves we all kinda think we are under a system that controls both our sense of view and how we live. Like there's a force behind limiting our mental capabilities to think outside the box or break from the orthodox reality we are locked in.
Mind you, i'm not in any form to offend, discourage you as these are just what i think and can be rhetoric since there's no right answer to it. It's just a thought!

Haynnie:


I'll Keep on asking, what are the material benefit for being a contented christain devoted to the services of God when an unbeliever/sinner is busy doing any means to secure the things (Wealth, power, fame, materialistic value etc.) of this world? ....

Dtruthspeaker:


See how you lie? You said you did not intend to offend yet you insulted honest working people calling them [/s]poo[s] Christians.

Well, the end justifies who is wise and who is foolish

Haynnie:


I'll Keep on asking, what are the material benefit for being a contented christain devoted to the services of God when an unbeliever/sinner is busy doing any means to secure the things (Wealth, power, fame, materialistic value etc.) of this world? Aside the popular saying, "Your reward is in heaven" that serve as a comping mechanism for believers do you really think there's really hope for poor christains making it through without soiling their pride to the doing of this world?

Let's see from a perspective of a church where the poor attends a church alongside with the rich, both praying for protection, grace and also the prayer to prosper in riches and in glory. First, the mindset of most poor christains are, praying to God for these things to come into their life as they believe God's supplication is sufficient to meet their needs while they put little or no effort to their labour. The thinking mechanism is triggered by their "beliefs" resting assured that things will fall in place as they continue praying. But you see the rich praying that same prayer isn't because they tied their beliefs to it either happening but they put their thinking, skill and wisdom into whatever thing that brings forth prosperity to their table. Their only prayer is long life, protection and sound health to enjoyed all they have amassed in wealth for them and their family to enjoy in a long run. If only theere was a source where lives can be bought I'm sure they would never fit themselves into any religious group since they have the source to long life.

Another aspect I took sightings from is at the pastors who are the leaders ordained to direct christains according to the path of Christ. What can we see as of today's church leaders? Are they leading by example or they are carried away by the materialism of this world? Nowadays is hard to see a Bible believing church preaching about end time. Is always about having financial freedom, financial blessings, building heavens kingdom to unlock financial breakthrough, sowing and reaping and all that's to it.
They are even making more emphasis to paying of 'tithe' is more like every Sunday it is preached even when the sermon is unrelated to it. Are these part of the plan or today's world is evolving to another order of living?

Haynnie:
... The reason for this thread is how i feel towards reality in conjunction with my faith and how it shaped a new reasoning for me.
Please engage this thread as i start. shortly.

Haynnie:
I'll Keep on asking, what are the material benefit for being a contented christain

Haynnie:
The times we go to church and there's either a special service/ programme hosted that has to do with inviting other guest pastors to come preach and it gets to the point of where they start calling for a seed to be sowed into the ministry of God and it starts with a fixed price till it gets to the lowest denomination. Don't you sometimes ask yourself the prayers/anointing that are specially made for those who sowed the highest amount of money isn't it same prayers that are being said for those that sowed from the little they have? Why segregate them?

The sense of poor christains giving to the bank of the church while they are hungry, pastor lay their hands on their head to tell them they will be blessed and they claim 'amen' still their lives continue as they were. Why are they still attending church instead of finding their way to prosper or woke to the fact that their pennies are what is enriching the church while they cope with religious beliefs?

capnies:
MY DEAR BROTHER I CAN FEEL YOUR PAIN BUT LET ME TELL YOU THE TRUTH THOSE CHURCHES ARE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THINGS. YOU ARE SEEING THE ERROR BECAUSE GOD HAS OPENED YOUR EYES, MANY CHURCH GOERS DON'T SEE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING BECAUSE THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE LEADERS NOT GOD. ALL OUR CHURCHES DO THESE DAYS IS TO PSYCHE PEOPLE AND THE GULLIBLE ONES FALL. I WILL BEG YOU TO TAKE THE PAINS TO STUDY THE BIBLE ON YOUR OWN ASKING GOD FOR WISDOM TO SEE THE HIDDEN TRUTH IN HIS WORD
APART FROM THAT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT GOD IS MORE INTERESTED IN OUR SOULS THAN GIVING US MATERIAL THINGS. THE BIBLE SAID HAVING FOOD AND CLOTHE LET US BE CONTENT
THE SOLE PURPOSE OF OUR LIVING IS TO LIVE OUR LIVES IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN INHERIT GODS KINGDOM ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT IS A COMPLETE WASTE AND REGRET WILL FOLLOW AFTER THE RESURRECTION. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE GO AND WORSHIP WITH GKS, GKM, JW
AND OTHER RELATIVELY UNKNOWN CHURCHES THAT ARE TRULY PREACHING THE TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE. PLEASE NOTE THAT I DON'T BELONG TO ANY OF THESE CONGREGATIONS, BUT AS AN INQUISITIVE MIND, I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO PREACH TO ME AND ASK QUESTIONS. I ATTEND A PENTECOSTAL CHURCH FOR NOW BUT I CAN TELL YOU ALL ARE RUBBISH
PLEASE NOTE THERE ARE SO MANY CHILDREN OF GOD IN THIS PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES WHO ARE STRIVING TO OBEY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS BUT ON A WRONG PLATFORM,; GOD IS CALLING THEM TO COME OUT FROM AMONGST THEM AND SEPARATE. I PRAY THAT GODS SPIRIT THAT IS CALLING YOU LOCATES AND LEAD YOU TO THE RIGHT PART REMAIN BLESSED

Haynnie:
The times we go to church and there's either a special service/ programme hosted that has to do with inviting other guest pastors to come preach and it gets to the point of where they start calling for a seed to be sowed into the ministry of God and it starts with a fixed price till it gets to the lowest denomination. Don't you sometimes ask yourself the prayers/anointing that are specially made for those who sowed the highest amount of money isn't it same prayers that are being said for those that sowed from the little they have? Why segregate them?

The sense of poor christains giving to the bank of the church while they are hungry, pastor lay their hands on their head to tell them they will be blessed and they claim 'amen' still their lives continue as they were. Why are they still attending church instead of finding their way to prosper or woke to the fact that their pennies are what is enriching the church while they cope with religious beliefs?

Michael547:

I like the fact that your mind is open to questioning the things that you see around you that does not feel right. Well the bigger question is, Now that you've noticed all of this, what would be your decision now.
I would encourage you to study the Bible for yourself so as to prove the truth to yourself. I can help you with that. You can contact me on 08167469103 on whatsapp.

Michael547:

I like the fact that your mind is open to questioning the things that you see around you that does not feel right. Well the bigger question is, Now that you've noticed all of this, what would be your decision now.
I would encourage you to study the Bible for yourself so as to prove the truth to yourself. I can help you with that. You can contact me on 08167469103 on whatsapp.

TenQ:

The whole truth if you want to hear it:
There is NO material benefits of being a Christian!

There may be spiritual benefits, moral benefits, psychological benefits but certainly not financial!

Haynnie:
■ Even if no financial benefit why would most gullible church goers believe financial blessings would miraculously come when they pray or when their pastor lay hands on them. Not all are aware but they believe what that it is so.

TenQ:

The whole truth if you want to hear it:
There is NO material benefits of being a Christian!

There may be spiritual benefits, moral benefits, psychological benefits but certainly not financial!

Haynnie:


Even if no financial benefit why would most gullible church goers believe financial blessings would miraculously come when they pray or when their pastor lay hands on them. Not all are aware but they believe what that it is so.

Haynnie:
Even if no financial benefit why would most gullible church goers believe financial blessings would miraculously come when they pray or when their pastor lay hands on them.
Not all are aware but they believe what that it is so.