TenQ:

You are misunderstanding me.
I accept the will and command of God 100%. If God directly told me to jump down from a 100 storey building, I will do it.

However, has God Commanded me so?
No!

You Matinox can do what you have asked because you are convinced it is God's will and you have the necessary faith to pull it through.

However, you cannot make such rules for others because they are not you.

As believers, we hear God differently!
As believers, we have different levels of faith!
As believers, we hear God differently!

Are we all 100% sure of God's voice when He speaks to us?
If the person you ask to exercise faith is not 100% sure the voice is hearing is that of God: have you not set him up for regret?

Let everyone relate to God at the level of their Faith.
Rom 12:6:
"Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;"


Thou shalt not tempt the Lord your God.

It could also be weed speaking in your brain. Or you could be schizophrenic.

jaephoenix:

You never reply my message on Does god exist?

See the most intelligent one using question mark without asking question

Meanwhile, Is there any rule that says one must reply a message?

Emusan:


See the most intelligent one using question mark without asking question

Meanwhile, Is there any rule that says one must reply a message?

No problem. I thought u didn't see my reply. Have a nice day

jaephoenix:

It could also be weed speaking in your brain. Or you could be schizophrenic.

Says one who is not known by God for anything good and of value!

Matinox:

Does this mean that I cannot enjoy the promises of God in scripture when I become a new creature? And have to wait till His Kingdom comes?

All His promises are to be fully enjoyed when His Kingdom comes until then we just have to manage whatever situation we find ourselves as believers!

Matinox:
■ Beautiful! This more like it! However kindly note that if you read my texts again, you will realize I did not with the slightest intent, create a rule for all believers to proceed with marrying whoever they want, despising biological and medical precautions. What I addressed is that the noise around this genotype thing will make even Genuine believers who really heard God, doubt the God they heard, and most times make a ship wreck of their faith, so those were my way of saying, Brethren, once you are sure you have Jesus in your relationship boat, stay trusting and believing. If your faith cannot proceed, seek His Will and call it off if He lets you, but never place any medical or biological circumstance above the word of God! It's the way of our fathers and the patriarchs, eve old testament saints. .

Stop spewing rubbish abeg!

God does not endorse even your marriage since He made clear that marriage is of this world and not of the Kingdom of God. So how can anyone be said to have heard from God regarding marrying an AS partner or even bearing children in such a union?

All the numerous "heard from God" failed experiments that litter your churches should be evidence enough of how God does not endorse the foolishness of men. Yet here you are believing and even proclaiming that He will as if to suggest God is your personal mumu.

Go out there and count there and count the number of SS births in your churches who die each year, all children care churchian parents who claim they too heard from God too. And see how the number and pattern you find does not differ much from those of fools who plunge in disregarding medical advice.

cornelboy:

Spot on!

I love helping when sincere questions are being asked. Satan's agents disguising as God's servants have lied to many and by the time they do everything they're asked to do wholeheartedly but can't see any relief they will turn to ATHEISM.
So before then we need to tell them the truth about God's promises, none among the first century Christians expected any kind of enjoyment in this world because they knew that what Jesus promised them will only be gotten when God's kingdom is here!

MaxInDHouse:


All His promises are to be fully enjoyed when His Kingdom comes until then we just have to manage whatever situation we find ourselves as believers!

Does the highlighted above mean I can partly enjoy some before the Kingdom comes?

Matinox:


If these conclusions are what you understand by all I said, then I'm afraid you are as unintelligible as your replies are.

I completely agree with you, but why dont you take this your mountain of faith to a sickle cell clinic and heal some surfering children?
You want to hide behind the name of God to carry on with willful ingorance and bring more children into this world to suffer? What exactly are you??

Kobojunkie:
Of course you do! By asserting that it is one of your many fruitless prayers that will magically bring about my salvation, you mark/steal for yourself glory from God. That's exactly one of the many things the Pharisees used to do..

Not just mine prayer, but that of your family, perhaps your parents, or maybe your siblings or maybe some friend somewhere who is now in the Faith, they might all have prayed for you... and Jesus will be glorified, even in your life.

jaephoenix:

If this statement above is correct, then your god must be a monster. Are you aware that cancer and plaques ravaged the world, yet your god sat back watching people(including christians) die in millions, while waiting for man's intelligence(he supposedly created) struggle to come to terms with those diseases. Why couldn't he make science very powerful to combat those scourges ravaging mankind for millennia ?

If you say so you may be right in a way, but then there are alot of things we dont know about the universe still.

Matinox:
■ Not just mine prayer, but that of your family, perhaps your parents, or maybe your siblings or maybe some friend somewhere who is now in the Faith, they might all have prayed for you...
■ and Jesus will be glorified, even in your life.

My family does not engage in such brainwashed foolishness at least.

2. God is already glorified in my life and it all has absolutely nothing to do with you or your existence.

Mvnster:

I completely agree with you, but why dont you take this your mountain of faith to a sickle cell clinic and heal some surfering children?
You want to hide behind the name of God to carry on with willful ingorance and bring more children into this world to suffer? What exactly are you??

Oh dear, I can tell you of the goodness of God, with proofs. You really need to know this Jesus we are talking about.

Mvnster:
■ I completely agree with you, but why dont you take this your mountain of faith to a sickle cell clinic and heal some surfering children?
You want to hide behind the name of God to carry on with willful ingorance and bring more children into this world to suffer? What exactly are you??

How many of those kids are healed at that clinic after all is said and done?

Matinox:


Oh dear, I can tell you of the goodness of God, with proofs. You really need to know this Jesus we are talking about.

Before telling me about this Goodness please visit a sickle cell clinic and see for yourself how children suffer from severe pains everyday and from wounds that do not heal. Spare the lives of innocent children please.

Matinox:

Does the highlighted above mean I can partly enjoy some before the Kingdom comes?

YES!
This is what transpired between Jesus and his apostles perhaps we can learn one or two things from this conversation:


After looking around, Jesus said to his disciples: “How difficult it will be for those with money to enter into the Kingdom of God!” But the disciples were surprised at his words. Jesus then responded: “Children, how difficult it is to enter into the Kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God.”  They became still more astounded and said to him: “Who possibly can be saved?” Looking straight at them, Jesus said: “With men it is impossible but not so with God, for all things are possible with God.” Peter began to say to him: “Look! We have left all things and followed you.” Jesus said: “Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news. who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life". Mark 10:24-30

According to the above conversation between Christ Jesus and his apostles riches may become hindrance for many, Peter said they (apostles) have left everything they had just to become common preachers and teachers going from one place to another with Jesus so what exactly will be their gain.
Jesus made him understand that if they should continue doing what he told them soon they will make disciples in many places so they can have families throughout those places and they will be able to sleep in different towns as their brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus will be there to welcome them as fellow believers they can also learn and enjoy other trades to make little money {Act 18:3} so when they're able to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4} they have surely done God's will therefore everlasting life will be sure for them!

So there are some things we believers are enjoying today but not all our heart's desires!

Kobojunkie:
How many of those kids are healed at that clinic after all is said and done?

Its terrible honestly, coupled with the rising cost of drugs everyday...hopefully there is a better solution soon enough, stem cell transplant still helps to a good degree, there is the other option on in utero genetic testing with sshmshmrtion done in some places.

Mvnster:
■ Before telling me about this Goodness please visit a sickle cell clinic and see for yourself how children suffer from severe pains everyday and from wounds that do not heal. Spare the lives of innocent children please.

Na so many dey hide their blatant wickedness against those innocent souls behind the claims of faith and hearing from God.

Kobojunkie:
Na so many dey hide their blatant wickedness against those innocent souls behind the claims of faith and hearing from God.

Its a real problem that needs practical solutions, many times we see so-called pastors advice some pregnant women not to go for CS against what their doctor says, in the name of "you will deliver like the hebrew women", few who are lucky to escape will go give testimony; while for the others who die or lose their babies nothing will ever be said about it.

You are a pastor and believe God works miracles does not mean you should teach people to follow blindly.

If God does not love us He wont give man the knowledge and ability to perform surgeries and what have you. We should rather pray for more success/advances in science, that in its own is a miracle, and not a lack of faith.

Mvnster:

Its terrible honestly, coupled with the rising cost of drugs everyday...hopefully there is a better solution soon enough, stem cell transplant still helps to a good degree, there is the other option on in utero genetic testing with sshmshmrtion done in some places.

How many centers offer stem cell treatment in Nigeria? Not up to 5. And they cost upward of 10m for a full course. And with the worsening hike in dollar, its getting worse. Getting a donor too is a problem.
The worse is in utero testing is costly, around 1m. Many women decline testing it, and rely on dumb faith.
So people like OP should be in jail for deceiving ignorant folks. The level of HBSS preponderence is getting higher everyday, yet OP and his ilk continue with their deception. Let him take his faith to the numerous hematology clinics where HBSS and HBSC patients constitute 90% of the cases, and heal them. Then I'll listen to any bullshyt he has to spout

Mvnster:


Its a real problem that needs practical solutions, many times we see so-called pastors advice some pregnant women not to go for CS against what their doctor says, in the name of "you will deliver like the hebrew women", few who are lucky to escape will go give testimony; while for the others who die or lose their babies nothing will ever be said about it.

You are a pastor and believe God works miracles does not mean you should teach people to follow blindly.

If God does not love us He wont give man the knowledge and ability to perform surgeries and what have you. We should rather pray for more success/advances in science, that in its own is a miracle, and not a lack of faith.

Nigeria with all its advancement in healthcare are technology, is number 2 in the world. Do you know why? Its cos of people like OP. They deceive mothers into declining CS and thus dying. And when OP's wife is in labor, he'll go and hide and do a section

jaephoenix:

How many centers offer stem cell treatment in Nigeria? Not up to 5. And they cost upward of 10m for a full course. And with the worsening hike in dollar, its getting worse. Getting a donor too is a problem.
The worse is in utero testing is costly, around 1m. Many women decline testing it, and rely on dumb faith.
So people like OP should be in jail for deceiving ignorant folks. The level of HBSS preponderence is getting higher everyday, yet OP and his ilk continue with their deception. Let him take his faith to the numerous hematology clinics where HBSS and HBSC patients constitute 90% of the cases, and heal them. Then I'll listen to any bullshyt he has to spout

What about the ones who will tell you bill gates wants to kill themthrough vaccination? I wonder what they would say about in-comning malaria vaccine. Nigeria is a circus with clowns all over.

Sometimes I just wish the govt would come up with a legislation to jail couples who produce any HbSS child in this present age of free information. Its sheer greed and wickedness.

I'll say it again!

To the saints of God, truly genuine in their pursuit of pleasing the Lord Jesus!

Did God originate your relationship? Are you sure you acted on the will of the Lord, your God?

If yes...

Confirm that God is with you again and again, strengthen your resolve and walk with him, He'll show up to prove his word alive. Look out for the signs of His unfailing promise, He does not speak a thing and subject it to impossibilities!

No biological or medical circumstance can stand as a limitation to the word of God!



@ Mvnster
@ Jaephoenix

Mvnster:


What about the ones who will tell you bill gates wants to kill themthrough vaccination? I wonder what they would say about in-comning malaria vaccine. Nigeria is a circus with clowns all over.

Sometimes I just wish the govt would come up with a legislation to jail couples who produce any HbSS child in this present age of free information. Its sheer greed and wickedness.

Bill Gates is the reason why polio has been kicked out of Nigeria. Most Nigerians don't know this

TenQ:

Says one who is not known by God for anything good and of value!

Does Yahweh know you? And how do you know that?

jaephoenix:

Does Yahweh know you? And how do you know that?

How is that your business?
Have I ever asked you if you are the Son of your father?

Matinox:
I'll say it again!■ To the saints of God, truly genuine in their pursuit of pleasing the Lord Jesus!Did God originate your relationship? Are you sure you acted on the will of the Lord, your God?
■ If yes... Confirm that God is with you again and again, strengthen your resolve and walk with him, He'll show up to prove his word alive. Look out for the signs of His unfailing promise, He does not speak a thing and subject it to impossibilities! No biological or medical circumstance can stand as a limitation to the word of God!

God does not originate relationships. There are no relationships that are of the Will of God. We know because God's Will — His Law and Covenant— states that your marriages are of this earth and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

2. Take a walk around to see the many faces of suffering right there in your churches. You will find there couples who claimed to have been of God's will and even pretended to have heard from God, yet suffering. (Some of them were groomed and joined by your pastors and mogs.) Why because they chose a lie over commonsense. Look at the records of the many children who have died over the many years you have been in those churches. Compare to see that there is no difference between that which happens in your churches and that which takes place in the world outside of it. Ignorance is not bliss!

Kobojunkie:
God does not originate relationships. There are no relationships that are of the Will of God. We know because God's Will — His Law and Covenant— states that your marriages are of this earth and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

2. Take a walk around to see the many faces of suffering right there in your churches. You will find there couples who claimed to have been of God's will and even pretended to have heard from God, yet suffering. (Some of them were groomed and joined by your pastors and mogs.) Why because they chose a lie over commonsense. Look at the records of the many children who have died over the many years you have been in those churches. Compare to see that there is no difference between that which happens in your churches and that which takes place in the world outside of it. Ignorance is not bliss!

Pray to have a good wife man! If not body go tell you. You guys just choose what to see in the bible and force it to answer your narrative.
Read Luke 20 again.

You have a choice to allow God reveal a path of success for you.
You have a choice to allow God lead you into a career
You have a choice to allow God lead you into a marriage.

Matinox:
■ Pray to have a good wife man! If not body go tell you. You guys just choose what to see in the bible and force it to answer your narrative. Read Luke 20 again. You have a choice to allow God reveal a path of success for you. You have a choice to allow God lead you into a career. You have a choice to allow God lead you into a marriage.

Another thing, which God do you claim to pray to there cause you definitely cannot be praying to the God of Israel whose Son is Jesus Christ given what He revealed thousands of years ago regarding the how of His relationship to mankind particularly in the area of prayer.

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You see, Scripture states that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas and requests and every petition, praise, offering, work, plea, sacrifice, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by their sins(disobedience/unholiness) and are hence an abomination to God. So, what is definite is that even your many pleas for the forgiveness of sins are not answered by God given that God made no special exemptions for that kind of plea. No amount of praying can cause God to change His mind regarding that which concerns the unrighteous by the way. So if you are thinking of prescribing more prayers that only means you don't understand or know God at all.

God, however, openly bragged about how He only answers the prayers of the righteous; He delights in granting them the desires of their heart meaning that they are those who he loves. For this very reason, Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God and God's Righteousness so that all things— the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(holiness), answers to prayers included—shall be added on to them. As Jesus Christ explained in His Gospel, the only way to become Holy, and then also Righteous, is by way of continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, god's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of god - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23. Jesus Christ is the only way. Obedience to the Truth of God is the only path to God and His righteousness. No amount of praying and other religious rituals can accomplish that.

Now, God deals indirectly with the unrighteous, the same way He deals with the unbelievers including the wicked and the ungrateful and that is by pouring out His mercy and kindness on them daily. So every time as an unrighteous you feel that God has answered your prayer know that at that same moment, or moments before that, God also provided the same mercy or similar to someone else across the world — or maybe just across from you— who does not even believe in God, nor asked God for anything.

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OP, you have continually disregarded God's truth to assert yours in its place several times on this thread alone. So, ask yourself, how can you be of the same God whose rulings you violate? Is God just a mumu to you?

Kobojunkie:
Another thing, which God do you claim to pray to there cause you definitely cannot be praying to the God of Israel whose Son is Jesus Christ given what He revealed thousands of years ago regarding the how of His relationship to mankind particularly in the area of prayer.

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You see, Scripture states that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas and requests and every petition, praise, offering, work, plea, sacrifice, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by their sins(disobedience/unholiness) and are hence an abomination to God. So, what is definite is that even your many pleas for the forgiveness of sins are not answered by God given that God made no special exemptions for that kind of plea. No amount of praying can cause God to change His mind regarding that which concerns the unrighteous by the way. So if you are thinking of prescribing more prayers that only means you don't understand or know God at all.

God, however, openly bragged about how He only answers the prayers of the righteous; He delights in granting them the desires of their heart meaning that they are those who he loves. For this very reason, Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God and God's Righteousness so that all things— the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(holiness), answers to prayers included—shall be added on to them. As Jesus Christ explained in His Gospel, the only way to become Holy, and then also Righteous, is by way of continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, god's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of god - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23. Jesus Christ is the only way. Obedience to the Truth of God is the only path to God and His righteousness. No amount of praying and other religious rituals can accomplish that.

Now, God deals indirectly with the unrighteous, the same way He deals with the unbelievers including the wicked and the ungrateful and that is by pouring out His mercy and kindness on them daily. So every time as an unrighteous you feel that God has answered your prayer know that at that same moment, or moments before that, God also provided the same mercy or similar to someone else across the world — or maybe just across from you— who does not even believe in God, nor asked God for anything.

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OP, you have continually disregarded God's truth to assert yours in its place several times on this thread alone. So, ask yourself, how can you be of the same God whose rulings you violate? Is God just a mumu to you?

You have gone ahead to talk plenty stories that I did not send or ask you.

The discussion is on marriage. Is God looking forward to perfecting a bride for His Son Jesus Christ?

Matinox:
■ You have gone ahead to talk plenty stories that I did not send or ask you.
■ The discussion is on marriage. Is God looking forward to perfecting a bride for His Son Jesus Christ?

Was it not your claim as well that you pray to God for good partners? Well, God does not answer the prayers of those who are unholy AND God made clear that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God.

Notice how you continually subscribe to ideas that are antichrist in orientation.

Kobojunkie:
Was it not your claim as well that you pray to God for good partners? Well, God does not answer the prayers of those who are unholy AND God made clear that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God.

Notice how you continually subscribe to ideas that are antichrist in orientation.

Lol
Which is Antichrist? Praying to God for a partner or that the idea of marriage is not supported by God?