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Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 10:11pm On Nov 15, 2023
About ten minutes read!
I really don't need to highlight any part for you to read.


Torah Judaism
@TorahJudaism
Please read until the end, we have prepared a nice article for you.

Difference between Zionism and Judaism.

The Distinction between Judaism and Nationalism

One of the greatest rabbis a century ago, Rabbi Chaim Brisker, once said, “There have been many heretical groups in Jewish history, but Zionism is the worst because its heresy focuses on the center of Judaism.” All past heretical groups have tried to lure Jews away from Judaism, but only Zionism had the audacity to try to transform Judaism itself into a new ideology of nationalism, and to transform the traditional Jewish character completely. And unlike all past breakaway groups, they have the nerve to claim that they represent the Jewish people – that they are the real Jews.

The Torah teaches Jews to be a low-profile, mild and peaceful people in the world. The Talmud says, “G-d found no vessel that could hold blessing other than peace” (Uktzin 3:12). Maimonides writes (Chanukah 4:14), “The Torah has come only to bring peace to the world. Its ways are ways of pleasantness and all its paths are peace (Proverbs 3:17).” The Talmud says that Jews are distinguished by three traits: mercy, shyness and kindness (Yevamos 79a). Whoever is generous and humble is a disciple of Abraham our father (Pirkei Avos 5:19). Love your neighbor as yourself, do not take revenge, do not bear a grudge, do not steal, do not covet… all these are commandments in the Torah.

The Talmud condemns all cruelty, even to animals. “Causing pain to an animal is a Torah prohibition” (Bava Metzia 32b). When Rabbi Yehuda Hanasi saw his maid about to sweep some baby weasels out of the house, he said, “Leave them, for G-d’s mercy is upon all of His creations” – and in that merit he was healed from a painful sickness (Bava Metzia 85a).

Rebecca, one of the matriarchs of the Jewish people, was selected because of her kindness and good heart. She gave water to Abraham’s servant and then offered to draw water for all of his camels (Genesis 24).The Torah makes it clear that it was this good trait that formed the foundation of the Jewish people.

The Torah forbids converts from Moab and Amon from intermarrying with Jews, because those nations failed to bring out bread and water to greet the Jews as they wandered through the desert (Deut. 23:5). Clearly, G-d wanted kindness to others to be in Jewish DNA, and he didn’t allow Jews to mingle with others who lack that trait.

The Torah says, “Love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.” The Torah forbids Jews to hate Egyptians, even though they enslaved us and cast our children into the Nile, because, after all, Egypt took in Jews at a time when they had nowhere else to live. (Deut. 23:8 with Rashi’s commentary). That is how far our appreciation must go for those who have helped us in any way.

Over the last two thousand years, since the destruction of the Temple, Jews have been persecuted, not persecutors. During all that time, until the rise of Zionism, there was no case when Jews ever killed or harmed others. Jews haven’t survived two thousand years because they had a country and an army, but on the contrary, because they did not have either of these. The other nations of the ancient world, who had large countries and mighty armies, are completely gone today. The Jews’ secret of survival is their spirituality, their religion. Because they listened to G-d’s command and did not found their own sovereign state, only kept the prophetic command to seek the peace of their country (Jeremiah 29:7), they are still here today.

The New Movement of the Settlers

Seen against this background, the Judaism of the settlers is really a new religion. They comprise a very small percentage of the Jewish people, and cannot claim to represent mainstream Jewish thought. Their reckless actions are alien to the average Jew. They put a Biblical façade on their enterprise, but in reality they are simply caught up in the nationalist spirit of our times.

Many of these people are simply naïve and haven’t given the matter sufficient thought. We have to explain to them only the Torah is our faith, while Zionist nationalism is a type of idolatry. The Jews of the settlements, instead of being devoted to the Torah’s commands, are devoted to idolatry, and they sacrifice their own children’s lives on its altar.

Israeli settlements, by their very existence, have caused – and continue to bring about – untold pain and suffering to the Jewish People.

Many of the settlers in these controversial developments are newly observant Jews who had been searching for meaning in their lives. Many of them are spiritually confused individuals from weak Jewish backgrounds. Their leaders are not rabbis, but politicians. They don’t say “in G-d we trust” but rather “G-d we use.”

Unfortunately, Zionist activists take advantage of these Jews, who don't know what real Judaism is about. They convince them that extremist settlement activity is the path of the Torah, when – in truth – it is the diametric opposite. Then, the Zionist government simply uses the settlers as cannon-fodder to expand the State.

We have to blame those who brainwashed the settlers - organizations that travel the world advocating for aliyah, and the Israeli government, which builds the settlements or closes their eyes while illegal settlements are built and expanded.

The international community has already invested much money, effort and diplomacy to bring peace to the Middle East. But educated Jews also have a role to play. We have to explain to Jews in France and America that they shouldn’t immigrate to Israel to add to the problem. And Jews who already live in Israel should return to their home countries. Their spiritually leaders must explain to them that in Israel, they will live in fear for their lives for no reason, and they will get no reward from G-d for it.

Ideally, we should catch them before they make their foolhardy decision to become settlers, and explain to them that the settler lifestyle is not in their own best interest or the interests of their families. There is no future there. They are not fulfilling any Divine commandment by going, only a sin. It brings them no benefit physically or spiritually.

These Jews are making a life-changing decision - surely, if one were to succeed in at least introducing doubt into their minds, they might think twice.

Religious Conflict, or Political Conflict?

The Jewish people and the Arab people enjoyed very good relations in the past in most places over the last two thousand years. Even while other nations persecuted us, we found refuge in Arab lands. We used to live side-by-side as cousins, doing business together, helping each other and attending each other’s weddings.

All of this changed with the advent of Zionism. Zionism brought heartbreak for Jews in all places where peace once reigned between Jew and Arab, like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt. And certainly in Palestine, the situation changed to one of tension and hatred, occasionally erupting into actual bloodshed.

The Zionists will certainly not admit that it’s their fault. They persist instead with the claim that Arab hatred toward Jews is plain anti-Semitism, or is due of the Jewish religion. The Zionists have their own reasons for propagating this lie: they want to win the sympathy of Jews all over the world. They are trying their hardest to transform their conflict with the Arabs into a religious war. Furthermore, the subconscious Zionist hope is to arouse anti-Semitism around the world in order to convince masses of Jews to immigrate to their state. Netanyahu is fond of announcing after every anti-Semitic outbreak, “Jews, you have a home! Come to Israel!”

We must call out to all nations: Don’t let yourselves be fooled by these provocations and tricks. Don’t play into the Israelis’ hands. We look forward to the return of those great days when we lived in brotherhood with our Arab neighbors in the Holy Land and throughout the world. And especially, we look forward to the day of redemption, when there will be peace throughout the world, as the prophet Isaiah said (2:4), “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.”

From Torah Judaism @torahjudaism on X (formally Twitter)

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Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by illicit(m): 10:26pm On Nov 15, 2023
How do u pronounce G-d?
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 11:00pm On Nov 15, 2023
illicit:
How do u pronounce G-d?

Jews don't pronounce it!

I'm not a Jew!
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 11:19pm On Nov 15, 2023
Zionism is an offshoot of the religion called Judaism. Na the same thing dem all be... religion, and God hates religion - Ezekiel 34 vs 1-31 - no matter whose it is. undecided
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 11:22pm On Nov 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Zionism is an offshoot of the religion called Judaism. Na the same thing dem all be... religion, and God hates religion - Ezekiel 34 vs 1-31 - no matter whose it is. undecided

Did your God specifically says He hate religion in those verses you quoted?
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 11:28pm On Nov 15, 2023
AntiChristian:
■ Did your God specifically says He hate religion in those verses you quoted?
He disavowed all those whom you even today regard as religious leaders over yourselves. If they are not of Him, is anything they offer of Him? undecided
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 11:32pm On Nov 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
He disavowed all those whom you even today regard as religious leaders over yourselves. If they are not of Him, is anything they offer of Him? undecided

You haven't answered the simple question I asked kobojunkie! cry
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 11:37pm On Nov 15, 2023
AntiChristian:
■ You haven't answered the simple question I asked kobojunkie! cry
I did exactly that! undecided
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 11:38pm On Nov 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
I did exactly that! undecided

Where?
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 11:38pm On Nov 15, 2023
AntiChristian:
■ Where?
Up there.! undecided
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 11:39pm On Nov 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
I did exactly that! undecided

God said "I so much hate religion" or something similar!
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 11:40pm On Nov 15, 2023
AntiChristian:
■ God said "I so much hate religion" or something similar!
Ok. So, if God did not explicitly use the word religion, it cannot be so. Is that it? undecided
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 11:58pm On Nov 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Ok. So, if God did not explicitly use the word religion, it cannot be so. Is that it? undecided

If it's not panadol he no fit be like panadol!
grin

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Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 12:03am On Nov 16, 2023
AntiChristian:
If it's not panadol he no fit be like panadol! grin
That makes no sense! undecided

So, if you are given Paracetamol— the pain-relieving ingredient/medicine in brands such as panadol— you won't take it because the name is not Panadol? undecided

Thankfully these things are not meant for the wilfully ignorant folks out there. lipsrsealed
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by KnownUnknown: 12:07am On Nov 16, 2023
illicit:
How do u pronounce G-d?

G minus D or G dash D
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 12:10am On Nov 16, 2023
Kobojunkie:
That makes no sense! undecided

So, if you are given Paracetamol— the pain-relieving ingredient/medicine in brands such as panadol— you won't take it because the name is not Panadol? undecided

Thankfully these things are not meant for the wilfully ignorant folks out there. lipsrsealed

I understand paracetamol, Tylenol and co!
Seems you didn't catch that vibe! That slang was used to advertise Panadol over a decade or decades ago!

If God didn't specifically mention that he hates religion say what he did mention verbatim!
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 12:17am On Nov 16, 2023
AntiChristian:
■ I understand [b]paracetamol, Tyleno[/b]l and co! Seems you didn't catch that vibe! That slang was used to advertise Panadol over a decade or decades ago!
■ If God didn't specifically mention that he hates religion say what he did mention verbatim!
Wrong! Paracetamol is not a brand name. Rather it is the actual drug packaged components in brands such as Panadol that you purchase. The same goes for acetaminophen and Ibuprofen. undecided

2. A major component/element of all religions is the middle man aka the religious leaders who pretend to know the mind of God more than their followers do. By disavowing such middlemen, God essentially made it clear that each man has to approach Him directly by way of the Law — His terms alone—which He has established for all of His people to obey. How can a God who did this be said to love religion or any idea of men that sets itself between Himself and ordinary men? undecided
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 5:55am On Nov 16, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Wrong! Paracetamol is not a brand name. Rather it is the actual drug packaged components in brands such as Panadol that you purchase. The same goes for acetaminophen and Ibuprofen. undecided

2. A major component/element of all religions is the middle man aka the religious leaders who pretend to know the mind of God more than their followers do. By disavowing such middlemen, God essentially made it clear that each man has to approach Him directly by way of the Law — His terms alone—which He has established for all of His people to obey. How can a God who did this be said to love religion or any idea of men that sets itself between Himself and ordinary men? undecided

Did I say paracetamol is the brand name? I know Acetaminophen= Paracetamol! Tylenol and Panadol are brands. With ibuprofen they are all analgesics. Common knowledge. Case closed 🔒.

Which religion was in the Ezekiel verse you quoted?
Did God say he hate religion as you put it from the start? Quote verbatim what your God said!
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by Kobojunkie: 6:13am On Nov 16, 2023
AntiChristian:
Did I say paracetamol is the brand name? I know Acetaminophen= Paracetamol! Tylenol and Panadol are brands. With ibuprofen they are all analgesics. Common knowledge. Case closed 🔒.
■ Which religion was in the Ezekiel verse you quoted? Did God say he hate religion as you put it from the start? Quote verbatim what your God said!
Quite it yourself as I already gave you the reference. undecided
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:36am On Nov 16, 2023
If you're studying the history of a race and the book says:
"In the future those practicing what the founder says will be doing something" and you are reading the history thousands of years later but none of those claiming they belong to that place are doing what the book said would you still continues considering them that they're truly living up to expectations?

This is what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob said about His true worshipers in the last days:


And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3


Neither Judaists or Zionists can boast about the fulfilment of this prophecy as an achievement so none of them is worshiping the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob today! smiley

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Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by MrPresident1: 6:57am On Nov 16, 2023
No Judaism or Zionism inside Bible

They are both fake
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 7:11am On Nov 16, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Quite it yourself as I already gave you the reference. undecided
Case closed 🔒
Re: Difference Between Zionism And Judaism by AntiChristian: 7:11am On Nov 16, 2023
MrPresident1:
No Judaism or Zionism inside Bible

They are both fake

Christianity dey? It's fake too!

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