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Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by PCHC(m): 12:22am On Dec 05, 2023


THE FIRST BOOK OF ADAM AND EVE
1 ADAM+EVE - CHAPTER 32

1. AND Adam and Eve remained in the Cave of Treasures until the seventh day; they neither ate of the fruit of the earth, nor drank water.


The seventh day could perhaps be the Sabbath day, but it was the seventh day from the time Adam and Eve were cast out of the Garden. And they had not yet eaten any fruit since they ate the forbidden fruit, neither had they drank any water: They were not even thinking about food or drink.

Actually, from the time they received the gold, incense and myrrh to the seventh day, they spent four days remaining in the Cave. That was an improvement for them who could hardly spend a night in that cave when it was dark and no golden rods, no incense and no myrrh, in the cave.

Darkness was more terrible than hunger or thirst on Adam and Eve: For they could abide a week without food and drink, but could not abide few days without light.

*2* And when it dawned on the eighth day, Adam said to Eve, "O Eve, we prayed God to give us somewhat from the garden, and He sent His angels who brought us what we had desired.

On the eight day, Adam shared the most encouraging testimony they have had yet since they sinned against God and fell out of the Garden of God. That testimony was that they prayed and asked God for something, and God sent His angels to bring to mankind what they desired.

To know that God still regards the prayer, and would even command his angels to do or give what those who sinned in the past desire of God and even much more than they asked or think of, gives assurance of reconciliation and forgiveness of sins.

Now, God has resumed answering their prayers, or should we say they just discovered "Prayers." Well no record in the Bible of Adam or Eve ever praying or asking God for anything before, and God granted their request. So it could be a new experience for them to get prayers answered to such degree of God sending Archangels and angels on errands to fulfill the desire of a man who simply prayed. Now Adam and Eve would explore further the wonders and discoveries of Prayers from their eighth day of being out of paradise but on this earth. Knowing that God answers our prayers gives us confidence with God. As it is written,

[1 John 5:14-15] — "And this is the confidence that we have before Him: If we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we already possess what we have asked of Him."

*3* "But now, arise, let us go to the sea of water we saw at first, and let us stand in it, praying that God will again be favourable to us and take us back to the garden; or give us something; or that He will give us comfort in some other land than this in which we are."

Having discover the power or influence of fervent prayer, Adam and Eve here would take prayer to deeper or higher levels. Adam proposed their prayer ground should be inside a sea of water (Not even on a mountain or be the gate of the garden, but inside a sea of water is where they should go and pray until something happens).

Their prayer point would be to give God three options for God to choose to do them:

*1* Option 1 — God in favor towards them should return them into the Garden (Paradise).

*2* Option 2 — God should give them something of value as compensation instead of the Garden if He would not take option 1.

*3* Option 3 — God should take them into another comfortable place or land if the option of the garden or thing of value is not available.

*4* Then Adam and Eve came out of the cave, went and stood on the border of the sea in which they had before thrown themselves, and Adam said to Eve:--

They came out of the cave and came to the bank of the sea where they once drowned themselves. Recall that they once drowned inside that sea, and an angel of God was sent to pull them out but the angel had no clue on how to revive drowned people who fainted inside massive waters.

*5* "Come, go down into this place, and come not out of it until the end of thirty days, when I shall come to thee. And pray to God with fervent heart and a sweet voice, to forgive us.

See Adam giving instruction to his wife, about the prayer and fasting. He practically instructed her to go into the sea and not come out for anything until one full month, praying and fasting inside the sea both day and night, in light and in darkness. And Adam her husband would even leave her alone and remain absent for 30 days praying also but in a different location from her.

It's like the Lord Jesus Christ would make His Disciples to remain somewhere watching and praying while He Himself would go yonder about a stone throw, isolated from them but to also be praying.

I used to know an adage that says, "A family that prays together stays together." Now I know it's not in praying together, but in agreeing together in prayers that matters most. People could be praying together or staying together to pray, and yet their prayers would be ineffective because they do not have agreement of prayer. And people could be in different countries apart praying in with agreement of prayer, and their prayers more effective than those who gathered together to pray.

See how the Lord Jesus separated His Disciples into different smaller groups with distance apart between groups, but asked them to pray at the same hour/ time but in different places. Or see how the only family on earth was not observing a family that prays together stays together, but instead Adam positioned his wife Eve in one strategic place while he moved to another strategic place to pray, but shared the same prayer points. Like Gideon's army of 300 men, separated into smaller groups and positioned in different strategic places to be light bearers and to raise their voices at the same time saying the same thing, but not staying together.

*6* "And I will go to another place, and go down into it, and do like thee."

Adam himself would go to another place inside the same sea, but doing the same thing Eve would be doing in different place in the sea. Can you beat that. That's multiplication.

Not like some prayer meeting wherein everyone is praying, and everyone is speaking in tongues to the point one hardly concentrates because even though speaking nonsense in the name of speaking in tongues are louder and there's commotion and confusing noises. And not like group prayers wherein one from the group say the prayers while others agree with saying Amen. Rather I speak of putting distance apart from one another so that the other may not even hear what you are saying in prayers, but yet both of you are saying the same things and doing the same things at the same time without seeing or hearing your prayer partner. Not one leading the prayers or one overshadowing the other or outpraying the other like the Pharisee who was loud in praying in the temple so that the tax collector would not be easily heard because of the self-righteousness of the Pharisee.

*7* Then Eve went down into the water, as Adam had commanded her. Adam also went down into the water; and they stood praying; and besought the Lord to forgive them their offence, and to restore them to their former state.

Eve was commanded by her husband to go into the sea and remain there praying for 30 days without coming out, night or day; and Eve did as Adam commanded. The weight of this is great.

It's command we are talking about here, not begging; and it's to enter and remain inside a sea day and night for 30 days. I would not doubt this is because I recall instructing a lady to walk while praying through a forest alone and late in the night without any light but just moon light about 18 years ago, and to my surprise she did walk alone through the valley of the shadow of death wherein creepy animals roamed, and she trusted in the Lord.

Somehow, I came to experience that women could give themselves more to faith and religious adventures without rationalizing things than the men I have led. Eve is the mother of all living, made by the Fingers of God. Many questions I have about women would be answered when I behold Eve in glory.

Will God not forgive them and restore them? I tell you, God already did. As it is written,

[Psalms 85:2-7] — "You forgave the iniquity of Your people; You covered all their sin. Selah You withheld all Your fury; You turned from Your burning anger. Restore us, O God of our salvation, and put away Your displeasure toward us. Will You be angry with us forever? Will You draw out Your anger to all generations? Will You not revive us again, that Your people may rejoice in You? Show us Your loving devotion, O LORD, and grant us Your salvation."

*8* And they stood thus praying, unto the end of the five-and-thirty days.

They even exceeded the 30 days, or stood in prayers for 5 weeks (35 days). It was not the 35 days that saw the ending of their praying; rather their praying saw the ending of the 35 days.

Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by PCHC(m): 12:24am On Dec 05, 2023
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Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 12:24am On Dec 05, 2023
God obviously never loved Adam and Eve
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by superCleanworks(m): 5:21am On Dec 05, 2023
hmmm
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by PCHC(m): 6:26pm On Dec 05, 2023
Thundafireseun:
God obviously never loved Adam and Eve

Apart from the Lord Jesus Christ, there's no man or woman that God loves more than Adam and Eve. No one else was made in the image of God apart from Adam and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 9:52pm On Dec 05, 2023
PCHC:


Apart from the Lord Jesus Christ, there's no man or woman that God loves more than Adam and Eve. No one else was made in the image of God apart from Adam and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.

Mstheeeew

Let’s assume you have a child… can you ever keep your child in a place prone to snakes??

If you love your child ,you will never wish your child death no matter what

3…the moment ur child is sober and ask for forgiveness, won’t you forgive your child??

The God in the Bible is the all knowing God … do you want to tell me that God never saw a serpent sneaking into the garden to harm his creatures ??

Lastly do you know that after Adam and Eve where chased out of the garden, God placed angels to guard the garden so that nothing shall ever enter the garden

And you call that love … clap for yourself 👏
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 9:59pm On Dec 05, 2023
Thundafireseun:
God obviously never loved Adam and Eve

Yet He clothed them.

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Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 10:05pm On Dec 05, 2023
Thundafireseun:


[color=#000099]Mstheeeew

Let’s assume you have a child… can you ever keep your child in a place prone to snakes??

If you love your child ,you will never wish your child death no matter what ...

Which no matter what? Which parent hasn't disowned a child who did the worst thing a child shouldn't do?

And snakes like you are always around our children yet since they are our children we know that they can beat the snakes after all male Adam was there with the snake and nothing happened.
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 10:16pm On Dec 05, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Which no matter what? Which parent hasn't disowned a child who did the worst thing a child shouldn't do?

And snakes like you are always around our children yet since they are our children we know that they can beat the snakes after all male Adam was there with the snake and nothing happened.

Its obvious you wish your children dead ….Just exactly how your father wishes you would drop dead

Stay offf my mentions with your childish beliefs
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 10:17pm On Dec 05, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Yet He clothed them.

and killed them because they are wiser
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 10:24pm On Dec 05, 2023
Thundafireseun:


and killed them because they are wiser

Where did you see He killed them?
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 10:38pm On Dec 05, 2023
Thundafireseun:


Its obvious you wish your children dead ….Just exactly how your father wishes you would drop dead

Stay offf my mentions with your childish beliefs

Just say you cannot argue it reasonably for every reasonable person knows not to take love for granted else you get thrown out
https://www.nairaland.com/4409091/father-anambra-disowns-son-newspaper/1#66010911

And this is of course you do not take cognisance of the fact that that rubbish they did has killed the whole world; billions dead and dying, and whole nations wiped out including you because of a single act of disobedience.

No good parent will associate with a mass murderer.
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 6:03am On Dec 06, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Just say you cannot argue it reasonably for every reasonable person knows not to take love for granted else you get thrown out
https://www.nairaland.com/4409091/father-anambra-disowns-son-newspaper/1#66010911

And this is of course you do not take cognisance of the fact that that rubbish they did has killed the whole world; billions dead and dying, and whole nations wiped out including you because of a single act of disobedience.

No good parent will associate with a mass murderer.



Lets argue reasonably…

Please explain the bold

You clearly don’t understand your bible
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 6:47am On Dec 06, 2023
Thundafireseun:


Lets argue reasonably…

Please explain the bold

You clearly don’t understand your bible

I always do that

It's simple. Isn't it clear that because of them billions are dead and dying in destruction of God's Plan that his children should live forever?
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 7:12am On Dec 06, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


I always do that

It's simple. Isn't it clear that because of them billions are dead and dying in destruction of God's Plan that his children should live forever?


You obviously don’t know your Bible and the story of Adam and Eve

The fruit Dey ate is the fruit of wisdom and not the fruit of death

Adam and Eve ate the fruit of wisdom…

God punishment for eating the fruit was death
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 7:19am On Dec 06, 2023
Thundafireseun:


You obviously don’t know your Bible and the story of Adam and Eve

The fruit Dey ate is the fruit of wisdom and not the fruit of death

Adam and Eve ate the fruit of wisdom…

God punishment for eating the fruit was death

The bible did not say fruit of wisdom it said fruit of knowledge of good and evil.

And the world already proves that people can have knowledge yet they are fools. E.g.
https://www.nairaland.com/7932409/video-pastor-wife-daughter-walk#127339536
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 7:31am On Dec 06, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


The bible did not say fruit of wisdom it said fruit of knowledge of good and evil.

And the world already proves that people can have knowledge yet they are fools. E.g.
https://www.nairaland.com/7932409/video-pastor-wife-daughter-walk#127339536



Some biblical translation call it wisdom, stop claiming you know everything

Meanwhile my point is simple….. if God so so loved Adam and Adam is actually Gods image … God won’t reward a singular disobedience with death
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 7:39am On Dec 06, 2023
Thundafireseun:

Some biblical translation call it wisdom, stop claiming you know everything



Don't care how people choose to twist it but Wisdom is clearly something that is beyond and greater than knowledge as we already know.

Meanwhile my point is simple….. if God so so loved Adam and Adam is actually Gods image … God won’t reward a singular disobedience with death

And my answer is look at the billions destroyed for that singular rubbish that God can scarcely save anyone. There is no way that they won't be severely punished.

https://www.nairaland.com/6447876/unbeatable-family-most-world-records
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 7:54am On Dec 06, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


And my answer is look at the billions destroyed for that singular rubbish that God can scarcely save anyone. There is no way that they won't be severely punished.

https://www.nairaland.com/6447876/unbeatable-family-most-world-records


it’s very easy to cast your blame on the weaker side

If you in a crowded place and you perceive fart it’s easy to blame the dirtiest person … I’m just trying to be logical here

Immediately after Adam and Eve were cast out from the garden…God placed an Angel with a flaming sword to guard against anything going in or out…

Logically speaking don’t you think if God so loved Adam as you think, this are the best measures to protect Adam from the serpent??

2…. Adam never committed massss murder like you want to lie to yourself…

Is the best punishment for seeking knowledge death??

Please be honest
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 4:09pm On Dec 06, 2023
Thundafireseun:
..Logically speaking don’t you think if God so loved Adam as you think, this are the best measures to protect Adam from the serpent??

Did you not see that Adam did not need protecting? Did you not see that the fall came all because female Adam LISTENED to the serpent and she was not forced to disobey her Father?

Is there any protection to be given from talking to someone other than warning them?

Thundafireseun:
..
2…. Adam never committed massss murder like you want to lie to yourself…

Is the best punishment for seeking knowledge death??

Please be honest

Even after you see that because of them all men die? billions and billions dead instead of living and living never dying.

No matter how curious for knowledge you are would you go swing from a high tension wire?
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 9:12pm On Dec 06, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Did you not see that Adam did not need protecting? Did you not see that the fall came all because female Adam LISTENED to the serpent [/b]and she was not forced to disobey her Father?

[b]Is there any protection to be given from talking to someone other than warning them?




Even after you see that because of them all men die? billions and billions dead instead of living and living never dying.

No matter how curious for knowledge you are would you go swing from a high tension wire?









Alright ask the holy spirt to please open ur eyes

Firstly I agree that the female Adam lead to the fall of 1st Adam, buh do you know how many countless times the serpent tempted Adam and he refused to fall even before Eve was created??

2… Yes there is protection against talking to strangers … if you have kids you love so much you will be protective of them especially if you live in an environment that is prone to violence , abuse and danger eg When you live in the North Eastern part of Nigeria…

3… Will you punish your children in your own image to death just because they seek knowledge ??
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 10:01pm On Dec 06, 2023
Thundafireseun:


Alright ask the holy spirt to please open ur eyes

Firstly I agree that the female Adam lead to the fall of 1st Adam, buh do you know how many countless times the serpent tempted Adam and he refused to fall even before Eve was created??

Yes!

And that is why God was very very angry with male Adam and of course even more angrier with female Adam, so much that He did not even complete her case and conclude her punishment and she was the only one who had that.

So, I saw it.

Thundafireseun:

2… Yes there is protection against talking to strangers … if you have kids you love so much you will be protective of them especially if you live in an environment that is prone to violence , abuse and danger eg When you live in the North Eastern part of Nigeria…

There was no violence, abuse or danger, so what other protection was there aside warning your children of a very specific danger?

Thundafireseun:

3… Will you punish your children in your own image to death just because they seek knowledge ??

This is an unreasonable argument because You are now being serpent like and sly.

First you said "fruit of wisdom" you got corrected. Now you have fraudulently twisted it to "seek knowledge" because of you desperately need to blame God. This proves your unreasonable bias and that you are not trying to see the Truth.

Even at that, female Adam shows that she was not interested in the acquisition of knowledge which you fallsly use to defend her But rather SHE WAS INTERESTED IN BEING LIKE GOD AND NOT INTERESTED IN KNOWLEDGE AS YOU FALLSLY CLAIM.

So, no road!
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 10:35pm On Dec 06, 2023

There was no violence, abuse or danger, so what other protection was there aside warning your children of a very specific danger?

So what is the point of having an Angel with a flaming sword at the gate of the garden of eden after God chased Adam and Eve out ??

Is there any specific danger that I should know of??
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 2:37pm On Dec 07, 2023
Thundafireseun:

So what is the point of having an Angel with a flaming sword at the gate of the garden of eden after God chased Adam and Eve out ??

Is there any specific danger that I should know of??


If your landlord throws you out what is your business with his gateman and danger?
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 3:11pm On Dec 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


If your[b] landlord throws[/b] you out what is your business with his gateman and danger?

Hahahahahaha

Why are you fraudulently trying to twist our discussion??

Our conversation is between Father and children and not between landlord and tenant…. Its completely unrelated Scenario because you can’t compare a father’s love with that of a tenant and landlord

Oga just admit the fact that if God so loved Adam as much as you think an Angel would be at the gate with a fiery sword from the moment they were created up till now…
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 7:19pm On Dec 07, 2023
Thundafireseun:


Hahahahahaha

Why are you fraudulently trying to twist our discussion??

Our conversation is between Father and children and not between landlord and tenant…. Its completely unrelated Scenario because you can’t compare a father’s love with that of a tenant and landlord

Oga just admit the fact that if God so loved Adam as much as you think an Angel would be at the gate with a fiery sword from the moment they were created up till now…

Still the same thing.

If your father throws you out of his house what is your business with his gateman and danger?

Especially as you have already seen that there was no violence, abuse or danger there, so what's your business with his gateman and danger?

None whatsoever.

So, dude, there is nothing reasonable for you to say.
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 7:43pm On Dec 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Still the same thing.

If your father throws you out of his house what is your business with his gateman and danger?

Especially as you have already seen that there was no violence, abuse or danger there, so what's your business with his gateman and danger?

None whatsoever.

So, dude, there is nothing reasonable for you to say.

You obviously don’t know your Bible and the story of Adam and Eve

The Angel with a fiery sword is called cherubim and he is guarding the tree of life in the Garden of Eden

If there is a way to live forever why would a father who loves his children so badly like you claim wish his own children that were created in his image death??
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 7:58pm On Dec 07, 2023
Thundafireseun:

If there is a way to live forever why would a father who loves his children so badly like you claim wish his own children that were created in his image death?? [/color]

You are just unreasonably repeating yourself in mad desperstion. We got this covered at the beginning when I showed you that they caused their own deaths and you moved over to other shits you got. Now you have nothing to say, you are now repeating yourself.

You gat nothing gee, you are out of any reasonable road to go. So, no road.
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 8:19pm On Dec 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


You are just unreasonably repeating yourself in mad desperstion. We got this covered at the beginning when I showed you that they caused their own deaths and you moved over to other shits you got. Now you have nothing to say, you are now repeating yourself.

You gat nothing gee, you are out of any reasonable road to go. So, no road.



lol

I’m still sticking to my original claim that God never loved Adam and Eve

I have proven myself correct
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Dtruthspeaker: 8:26pm On Dec 07, 2023
Thundafireseun:


lol

I’m still sticking to my original claim that God never loved Adam and Eve

I have proven myself correct

As you please, so long as it is very clear that you hold on to it most unreasonably with no justification.
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Steep(m): 8:59pm On Dec 07, 2023
This is a tale.
Re: Adam And Eve Became Prayer Warriors by Thundafireseun: 12:24am On Dec 08, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


As you please, so long as it is very clear that you hold on to it most unreasonably with no justification.

I agree

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