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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 12:28pm On Jan 11
Something I just noticed in this TB Joshua matter. His followers are called disciples of his. Not disciples of Jesus. But disciples of TB Joshua. This means that what one of the eyewitnesses in the BBC documentary said is true. He said TB Joshua told him that every 2000 years, a new Messiah shows up. And that He TB Joshua is the new Messiah replacing Jesus. And this is a typical Antichrist. This means that this SCOAN Cult isn't a Christian movement. It is truly a Cult with TB Joshua being their Messiah. No wonder SCOAN members don't worship God or follow Christ. It is an Antichrist movement. They worship TB Joshua. Now I understand why they are desperately opening several threads here. Just observe how the members speak or read what they type online. These people are not followers of Christ.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:09pm On Jan 11
Courz:


Are you okay? Did you just smoke Igbo before typing that rubbish up there? I am going to mention similarities between your Cult and TB Joshua.


TB Joshua disciples are not allowed to ever leave the Cult. In the recent documentary, one ex disciple revealed that armed Men are placed at the gate of the premises who are ready to manhandle anyone that tries to leave. In the documentary, two videos were shown where two disciples on two different occasions were trying to escape the Synagogue with the armed Men manhandling them but they eventually escaped. Another video shows another ex disciple dressed with hijab and glasses to disguise herself in order to avoid the preying eyes of agents TB Joshua sent to monitor and harm her.

TB Joshua told his disciples that no one leaves the Cult and lives a good life. Anyone who leaves must come back and repent. He says that person's life must go bad. He also says no one should contact any disciple that leaves else you will be punished. His ex disciples revealed that he had a horrible temper and will occasionally flog them with whips on their bare bottoms. One ex disciple tried to leave but was attacked spiritually by TB Joshua. He would appear in her dreams, demons would attack her, she would walk aimlessly like a Mad woman and keep seeing things that are not there. Because of this, she caved in and came back to the Synagogue. When she came back, she was beaten badly by Tb Joshua's Men with blood all over her upper body. She was flogged thoroughly and pictures of her bruises can be seen in the documentary. She was made to say things that she didn't do. She was humiliated in front of the congregation in the Synagogue.

Watchtower on the other hand do not go physical in their abuse of JWs who leave. They do the abuse psychologically which results to other consequences. JWS are not allowed to leave as well. They are taught that anyone that leaves must have his or her life go bad. Things will never work for that person. Anyone who leaves is for Satan and an Apostate. JWs are told to stay away from such people including Families. EXJWs who are living normal moral lives and have had their lives better than when they were in JW have revealed that when they come across JWS Outside and the JWs ask them how they are doing, their answers are always positive because their lives have been better. This usually shocks the JWS because Watchtower lied to them that EXJW lives are supposed to be miserable. They are supposed to be suffering. Going by many testimonies from EXJWs, they have said that their financial situations improved since they left and their marriages became better and were able to live normal lives.

Watchtower makes sure that JWs who leave suffer Isolation which in turn leads to many psychological damage. They believe that when they take people's families, JWs will be forced to come back to the Cult since the Cult also teaches that JWs are not to have close relationships with others who aren't JWs. Because of this, people who are shunned by their families commit suicide and murders. There are research papers written about the negative effects of Isolation and how it damages the brain of victims. Because of this abuse and destruction of families, JWS are banned in some countries. They even recently lost their registration as a Religion because the Norwegian government realised that they isolate underage children. There are situations where underage JWS are disowned and driven from home simply because they no longer want to be JW.

So while TB Joshua steals victims from their families, Watchtower steals a whole family from a victim.

Oya Mad MaxinDhouse, counter this let me see.


No hide and seek game anymore if you want to chat with me then quote me properly or you can continue chatting with others i'm not hungry for chats! wink
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:17pm On Jan 11
BRATISLAVA:


Why do they always use philanthropy to whitewash the sepulchre? It's like an unspoken rule.
Perhaps it's the best way to disguise the evil they do in secret.
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 1:19pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


No hide and seek game anymore if you want to chat with me then quote me properly or you can continue chatting with others i'm not hungry for chats! wink

Ahahahahahaha. You don't know what to say? You thought we forgot about your Cult? See you talking about TB Joshua up and down in threads forgetting you are a pot calling Kettle black.


TB Joshua disciples are not allowed to ever leave the Cult. In the recent documentary, one ex disciple revealed that armed Men are placed at the gate of the premises who are ready to manhandle anyone that tries to leave. In the documentary, two videos were shown where two disciples on two different occasions were trying to escape the Synagogue with the armed Men manhandling them but they eventually escaped. Another video shows another ex disciple dressed with hijab and glasses to disguise herself in order to avoid the preying eyes of agents TB Joshua sent to monitor and harm her.

TB Joshua told his disciples that no one leaves the Cult and lives a good life. Anyone who leaves must come back and repent. He says that person's life must go bad. He also says no one should contact any disciple that leaves else you will be punished. His ex disciples revealed that he had a horrible temper and will occasionally flog them with whips on their bare bottoms. One ex disciple tried to leave but was attacked spiritually by TB Joshua. He would appear in her dreams, demons would attack her, she would walk aimlessly like a Mad woman and keep seeing things that are not there. Because of this, she caved in and came back to the Synagogue. When she came back, she was beaten badly by Tb Joshua's Men with blood all over her upper body. She was flogged thoroughly and pictures of her bruises can be seen in the documentary. She was made to say things that she didn't do. She was humiliated in front of the congregation in the Synagogue.

Watchtower on the other hand do not go physical in their abuse of JWs who leave. They do the abuse psychologically which results to other consequences. JWS are not allowed to leave as well. They are taught that anyone that leaves must have his or her life go bad. Things will never work for that person. Anyone who leaves is for Satan and an Apostate. JWs are told to stay away from such people including Families. EXJWs who are living normal moral lives and have had their lives better than when they were in JW have revealed that when they come across JWS Outside and the JWs ask them how they are doing, their answers are always positive because their lives have been better. This usually shocks the JWS because Watchtower lied to them that EXJW lives are supposed to be miserable. They are supposed to be suffering. Going by many testimonies from EXJWs, they have said that their financial situations improved since they left and their marriages became better and were able to live normal lives.

Watchtower makes sure that JWs who leave suffer Isolation which in turn leads to many psychological damage. They believe that when they take people's families, JWs will be forced to come back to the Cult since the Cult also teaches that JWs are not to have close relationships with others who aren't JWs. Because of this, people who are shunned by their families commit suicide and murders. There are research papers written about the negative effects of Isolation and how it damages the brain of victims. Because of this abuse and destruction of families, JWS are banned in some countries. They even recently lost their registration as a Religion because the Norwegian government realised that they isolate underage children. There are situations where underage JWS are disowned and driven from home simply because they no longer want to be JW.

So while TB Joshua steals victims from their families, Watchtower steals a whole family from a victim.

Oya Mad MaxinDhouse, counter this let me see.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:30pm On Jan 11
Courz:

Ahahahahahaha. You don't know what to say? You thought we forgot about your Cult? See you talking about TB Joshua up and down in threads forgetting you are a pot calling Kettle black. Because of this, people who are shunned by their families commit suicide and murders. There are research papers written about the negative effects of Isolation and how it damages the brain of victims. Because of this abuse and destruction of families, JWS are banned in some countries. They even recently lost their registration as a Religion because the Norwegian government realised that they isolate underage children. There are situations where underage JWS are disowned and driven from home simply because they no longer want to be JW.
So while TB Joshua steals victims from their families, Watchtower steals a whole family from a victim.
Oya Mad MaxinDhouse, counter this let me see.

This is much better! smiley

Now you said FAMILIES are turn apart due to the teachings of an organization claiming they belong to Christ Jesus shey?

Oya explain what Jesus meant in this verses:

"Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me.  Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it"Matthew 10:34-39

That is what the founder of our organization said so if you're interested in knowing further why families must break due to his teachings you're free to ask he is our founder so we must bear the same fruit just as he did.
That's why he said people like you will call his true followers a CULT:

"A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 1:35pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


Trash!

Mad MaxinDhouse, TB Joshua made it a rule that his disciples cannot leave the Cult. And if they do, there are consequences. His disciples are also not to contact or talk to any disciple that leave the Cult.

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society tells you JW that leaving the organisation means leaving Jehovah. Anyone who leaves JWs is an Apostate and must be avoided at all costs.

True or False Mad MaxinDhouse. Not all that jargons you just typed up there.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:47pm On Jan 11
Courz:

Mad MaxinDhouse, TB Joshua made it a rule that his disciples cannot leave the Cult. And if they do, there are consequences. His disciples are also not to contact or talk to any disciple that leave the Cult.
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society tells you JW that leaving the organisation means leaving Jehovah. Anyone who leaves JWs is an Apostate and must be avoided at all costs.
True or False Mad MaxinDhouse. Not all that jargons you just typed up there.

I'm not bothered about your insults here and there but you must quote me properly or keep to yourself. wink
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 3:59pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


I'm not bothered about your insults here and there but you must quote me properly or keep to yourself. wink

Mad MaxinDhouse, TB Joshua made it a rule that his disciples cannot leave the Cult. And if they do, there are consequences. His disciples are also not to contact or talk to any disciple that leave the Cult.
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society tells you JW that leaving the organisation means leaving Jehovah. Anyone who leaves JWs is an Apostate and must be avoided at all costs.
True or False Mad MaxinDhouse. Not all that jargons you just typed up there.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:08pm On Jan 11
Courz:

Mad MaxinDhouse, TB Joshua made it a rule that his disciples cannot leave the Cult. And if they do, there are consequences. His disciples are also not to contact or talk to any disciple that leave the Cult. Watchtower Bible and Tract Society tells you JW that leaving the organisation means leaving Jehovah. Anyone who leaves JWs is an Apostate and must be avoided at all costs. True or False Mad MaxinDhouse. Not all that jargons you just typed up there.

The Apostles told members that whoever turns back from the faith must be shunned:

Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them. Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 10-11


Our God is no longer interested in whoever backslides:
“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

So our God detests anyone who lives the faith.

I just wonder why you're not interested in what God's word says because i can explain to you why it's so!
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 6:26pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


The Apostles told members that whoever turns back from the faith must be shunned:

Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them. Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 10-11


Our God is no longer interested in whoever backslides:
“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

So our God detests anyone who lives the faith.

I just wonder why you're not interested in what God's word says because i can explain to you why it's so!

Mad MaxinDhouse, you didn't bother to read the verses before the ones you quoted. Mad MaxinDhouse, we are not talking about people leaving the Christian Faith. We are not talking about people leaving the teachings of Christ which is exactly what the verse you quoted is saying when you read surrounding verses in context. There are many JWS who are still Christians after leaving your Cult. Do you see Jehovah's Witnesses in these verses you quoted? Did you see anything about people leaving Jehovah's witnesses and that those people should be avoided? It is talking about people leaving the teachings of Jesus, people denying that Jesus came in the flesh. In case you have forgotten, you JWs are taught that Jesus wasn't resurrected in the physical body. That way you are denying that Jesus came in the flesh. So, this verse exposed your Cult as an Antichrist organisation that is not teaching what is correct about Jesus. Do you know gospel of Jesus?

Let's also touch another teaching of Jesus. The Bible explicitly says Jesus is the Mediator of Mankind. Your Cult says No, that he is only Mediator for the Anointed. Can you see that you JWs don't adhere to the teachings of Christ? Your doctrines disagree with the Bible. And that verse in 2 John is actually talking about you JWs. This is why when you go to preach, people reject you JWs sharp sharp because you don't adhere to the teachings of Christ. These people rejecting you are actually doing exactly what is commanded in that verse. So, JWs who read the Bible for themselves and notice that your doctrines aren't in line with the Bible, are very free to leave your Cult based on that Bible verse.

You can see that you JWS are very similar to TB Joshua.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:21pm On Jan 11
Courz:

We are not talking about people leaving the teachings of Christ
So it's those PRACTICING it that people like you will call a CULT.
Jesus knew cultists also do the same before saying his disciples will be called a CULT for practicing it! Matthew 10:24-25
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 7:43pm On Jan 11
Mad MaxinDhouse, another similarity between TB Joshua and Watchtower is that both of them banned their members from speaking with Disciples who expose them.

TB Joshua told his disciples that if they leave the Cult, they will die or suffer. Jehovah's Witnesses are also told that if they leave, they will be destroyed at Armageddon and they will never live good lives.

TB Joshua told his disciples that He is the Messiah replacing Jesus. He claimed that his coming into the world was already prophecied many years ago. Your Founder Charles Taze Russell said he was better than Jesus and could explain the Old Testament better than Jesus. He also believed he was chosen from birth. Rutherford claimed that the Christ is made up of Jesus and the 144,000. Presently, they are teaching you JWS that since Jesus isn't your Mediator, you need to be closer and obedient to the 144,000 in order to get Salvation and Everlasting life. This means your mediators Are the 144,000. In other words, they are your Messiah. Your Governing body also claimed that their appointment as your leaders were prophecied in the book of Matthew as the Faithful and discreet Slave.

Can you see how similar You JWs and TB Joshua are?

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 8:02pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:

So it's those PRACTICING it that people like you will call a CULT.
Jesus knew cultists also do the same before saying his disciples will be called a CULT for practicing it! Matthew 10:24-25

Let's now talk about another teaching of Jesus. Jesus explicitly said He is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to Almighty God except through him. Watchtower says They are the way, the Truth and your means of Salvation. Between Jesus and Watchtower, who is Lying?

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:23pm On Jan 11
Courz:

Let's now talk about another teaching of Jesus. Jesus explicitly said He is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to Almighty God except through him. Watchtower says They are the way, the Truth and your means of Salvation. Between Jesus and Watchtower, who is Lying?

Just go back for a proper Bible study because Jesus emphasized that his brothers will serve as intermediary between him and many so that whoever failed to RECOGNIZE them he will not accept into his Kingdom! Matthew 25:34-46

So it's either you figure out who are his brothers that he was talking about or you go back to study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses!
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 8:32pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


Just go back for a proper Bible study because Jesus emphasized that his brothers will serve as intermediary between him and many so that whoever failed to RECOGNIZE them he will not accept into his Kingdom! Matthew 25:34-46

So it's either you figure out who are his brothers that he was talking about or you go back to study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses!

Mad MaxinDhouse, between Jesus and Watchtower both claiming to be the Way, The Truth and The Life, who is Lying? Very simple question. Just answer the question.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45pm On Jan 11
Courz:

Mad MaxinDhouse, between Jesus and Watchtower both claiming to be the Way, The Truth and The Life, who is Lying? Very simple question. Just answer the question.

Jesus is a Jew so he made it clear that he didn't come to be contacted directly by none Jews {Matthew 15:24} so if you're not a Jew then you need his brothers to serve as intermediary between him and you. Matthew 25:34-46
But if you can find your way directly without his brothers go ahead and connect yourself nah! undecided
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 8:46pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is a Jew so he made it clear that he didn't come to be contacted directly by none Jews {Matthew 15:24} so if you're not a Jew then you need his brothers to serve as intermediary between him and you. Matthew 25:34-46
But if you can find your way directly without his brothers go ahead and connect yourself nah! undecided

So What you are telling me is that Jesus is the Liar while Watchtower is right?

When Jesus was saying He is The Way, The Truth and The Life, did he mention any intermediary? As the Way, a Christian is meant to be directed to Jesus because it is through him you can get to God. It is because of him you are called a Christian. All his disciples including Paul kept taking the 1st century Christians to Jesus. Did you see any of them telling the Christians then that They were the Way, the Truth and Life just as Watchtower is doing? Read the whole New Testament. It's all about Jesus! So, show me from the Bible where Jesus said that he needed intermediary to pose as The Way, The Truth and The Life.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23pm On Jan 11
Courz:
So What you are telling me is that Jesus is the Liar while Watchtower is right?
When Jesus was saying He is The Way, The Truth and The Life, did he mention any intermediary? As the Way, a Christian is meant to be directed to Jesus because it is through him you can get to God. It is because of him you are called a Christian. All his disciples including Paul kept taking the 1st century Christians to Jesus. Did you see any of them telling the Christians then that They were the Way, the Truth and Life just as Watchtower is doing? Read the whole New Testament. It's all about Jesus! So, show me from the Bible where Jesus said that he needed intermediary to pose as The Way, The Truth and The Life.

Ọmọ this your mission of instigating others against Jehovah's Witnesses won't do nothing.

I have quoted Jesus himself several times that none Jews need INTERMEDIARY so if you want to connect him go ahead and do nobody is stopping you nah! undecided
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 9:37pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ this your mission of instigating others against Jehovah's Witnesses won't do nothing.

I have quoted Jesus himself several times that none Jews need INTERMEDIARY so if you want to connect him go ahead and do nobody is stopping you nah! undecided



Where in the Bible did Jesus specifically say that Non Jews need intermediary that would claim to be The way, The Truth and the Life? Did his disciples ever claim to be the Way, The Truth and The Life same way Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is claiming?

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12am On Jan 12
Courz:

Where in the Bible did Jesus specifically say that Non Jews need intermediary that would claim to be The way, The Truth and the Life? Did his disciples ever claim to be the Way, The Truth and The Life same way Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is claiming?

Please quote any publication of Watchtower in which it's written that they are the way the truth and the life!

What the Watchtower is saying is scripturally accurate.
Jesus said he has come only for Israelites {Matthew 10:6} and that it's the Israelites that will connect other nations to him {Matthew 25:34-46} which is according to prophecies foretold long before Jesus' birth {Zechariah 8:23} that's why Jesus said he has other sheep which aren't of the first fold! John 10:16

That arrangement hasn't changed though the Israelites as a nation rejected Jesus that first fold arrangement still stands. That's what was revealed in the Bible book of Revelations as the lamb (Christ) was seen with only 144,000 who are the spiritual Jews! Revelations 14:1

But since you're trying to instigate others against JWs please quote any of our publications where it's written that the Watchtower is the way the truth and the life.

Thanks in advance!
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 9:42am On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:


Please quote any publication of Watchtower in which it's written that they are the way the truth and the life!

What the Watchtower is saying is scripturally accurate.

Something is seriously wrong with you. You are not mentally okay. That's why I call you Mad MaxinDhouse Can you see how you are contradicting yourself? A part of your brain is telling you how blasphemous it is to claim to be What is only reserved for Jesus, you are seeing that is an Antichrist move, you are seeing that Only Jesus called himself The Way The Truth and The Life but you are also asking me stupid question to show you where Watchtower claimed to be The Way, The Truth and The Life. Because you are such a horrible Liar with Schizophrenic Disorder, the other half of your Brain is telling you that their claim to be The Way, The Truth and The Life is correct. Mad MaxinDhouse, where do you stand gan gan gan? Why are you suffering from Schizophrenic Disorder? Why did you allow Watchtower turn you to this kind of person? When I started this discussion and made this point of Watchtower claiming to be the Way, The Truth and The Life, why didn't you counter it? When I asked you who was lying between Jesus and Watchtower when they both claimed to be the same thing, why didn't you immediately tell me Jesus is the only one that is The Way, The Truth and The Life? Your answer to me implied that Jesus is the Liar! All of a sudden, you are asking me stupid question, asking me to show you where Watchtower made such a claim. You need to be checked ASAP in a Psychiatric hospital. No joke. I won't provide any publication to prove to you because your stupidity needs serious attention.

What do you JWs call the Organisation? You call it The Truth. Your Cult is The Truth. You make statements like, How long have you been in the Truth? I found the Truth, That brother or sister has left The Truth.

As a JW, you are taught that The organisation is the road to everlasting life. Only JWs are on the road to Life. Only a baptised JW will have everlasting life. It is only through the organisation that you can have life. Way or Road, same thing.It is only by following the Faithful and discreet Slave that one can have Life. It is only when you associate with the 144,0000 JWs that JWs can have Salvation. Anyone who leaves JW has left the Road to life and will be destroyed at Armaggedon. This already covers Watchtower claiming to be way and The Life. Everything I am saying is all in your publications till date so don't be stupid. You have been chanting the same claims in this forum.

So, once again, I ask, Did any of Jesus's disciples or Apostles claim to be The Way, The Truth and The Life the same way Watchtower is claiming? Did Jesus ever mention an Intermediary that will pose to be what he is when he said he is The Way The Truth and The Life?

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:23am On Jan 12
All i asked you is:
MaxInDHouse:

Please quote any publication of Watchtower in which it's written that they are the way the truth and the life!
You may have your own understanding regarding what you read but then that someone said something totally differs from how you understood it!

Courz:

Something is seriously wrong with you. You are not mentally okay. That's why I call you Mad MaxinDhouse Can you see how you are contradicting yourself? A part of your brain is telling you how blasphemous it is to claim to be What is only reserved for Jesus, you are seeing that is an Antichrist move, you are seeing that Only Jesus called himself The Way The Truth and The Life but you are also asking me stupid question to show you where Watchtower claimed to be The Way, The Truth and The Life. Because you are such a horrible Liar with Schizophrenic Disorder, the other half of your Brain is telling you that their claim to be The Way, The Truth and The Life is correct. Mad MaxinDhouse, where do you stand gan gan gan? Why are you suffering from Schizophrenic Disorder? Why did you allow Watchtower turn you to this kind of person? When I started this discussion and made this point of Watchtower claiming to be the Way, The Truth and The Life, why didn't you counter it? When I asked you who was lying between Jesus and Watchtower when they both claimed to be the same thing, why didn't you immediately tell me Jesus is the only one that is The Way, The Truth and The Life? Your answer to me implied that Jesus is the Liar! All of a sudden, you are asking me stupid question, asking me to show you where Watchtower made such a claim. You need to be checked ASAP in a Psychiatric hospital. No joke. I won't provide any publication to prove to you because your stupidity needs serious attention. What do you JWs call the Organisation? You call it The Truth. Your Cult is The Truth. You make statements like, How long have you been in the Truth? I found the Truth, That brother or sister has left The Truth.
As a JW, you are taught that The organisation is the road to everlasting life. Only JWs are on the road to Life. Only a baptised JW will have everlasting life. It is only through the organisation that you can have life. Way or Road, same thing.It is only by following the Faithful and discreet Slave that one can have Life. It is only when you associate with the 144,0000 JWs that JWs can have Salvation. Anyone who leaves JW has left the Road to life and will be destroyed at Armaggedon. This already covers Watchtower claiming to be way and The Life. Everything I am saying is all in your publications till date so don't be stupid. You have been chanting the same claims in this forum. So, once again, I ask, Did any of Jesus's disciples or Apostles claim to be The Way, The Truth and The Life the same way Watchtower is claiming? Did Jesus ever mention an Intermediary that will pose to be what he is when he said he is The Way The Truth and The Life?

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 11:54am On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
All i asked you is:

You may have your own understanding regarding what you read but then that someone said something totally differs from how you understood it!




Mad MaxinDhouse, why was it so hard for you to be bold and say Jesus is the only Way The Truth and The Life? Because you are in an Antichrist organisation based on the book of 2 John verse you quoted earlier. We all know what an Antichrist is. Someone or group of people claiming to be what Jesus is or ascribing to themselves what Jesus is or people seeking to replace Jesus or people who believe they are better than Jesus. An Antichrist is also one who never takes members of the religion directly to Jesus. This is exactly what TB Joshua did. He called himself The foretold Messiah. All the attention is on him as the means to Salvation. Look at all the disciples of Jesus, they took First century Christians straight to Jesus. They never at any time brought attention to themselves as the Way The Truth and The Life. They all tell Christians to follow Jesus! If you were in a Truly Christian Religion that follows Jesus, you will without hesitation and with so much pride in you, proclaim to the Rooftops that Jesus is the Only Way The Truth and The Life. You will never second guess yourself because Jesus is in you while you are in Jesus according to what Apostle Paul said. When I asked you who is lying between Jesus and Watchtower when they claimed to be the same thing, If you were truly in a Christian religion, You would say Watchtower are the Liars because Only Jesus is designated as the Way The Truth and The Life.

I am glad you mentioned the book of 2 John because it gave an expo directly from Jesus on how to identify people who are Antichrists and who are to be avoided. Those verses even made the warning serious by warning never to allow such people into your homes. This is why many people out there don't listen to you JWs when you preach. They are just following the command in that verse. Watchtower doesn't take you JWs directly to Jesus in the exact way the Apostles did with the 1st century Christians. Jesus is even barely mentioned in your Talks. No single JW can boast of having a strong relationship with Jesus because of this Brainwashing. Watchtower takes you JWs to themselves as the Way The Truth and The Life and to Jehovah. They say it is through them you can get Salvation But look at what Acts 4 Vs 11 and 12 says:

11# This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12#And there is a salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” That verse is saying No one on Earth has been given to be a means of Salvation. No One! Take note of the phrase No other name under heaven given among men. In other words, Jesus never sent anybody including Watchtower/ Faithful and discreet Slave to act as a means of Salvation for Christians. Can you see that the verses are proving Watchtower to be Liars?

But Almighty God gave a formula which is All Christians are to be taken to Jesus because if they are taken to Jesus, they are automatically taken to God of which Jesus himself confirmed. Now that verse is telling you that anyone who doesn't follow this formula is not even working for God in the first place.

This is how your Cult is very similar to TB Joshua.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:59pm On Jan 12
So in a nutshell there's no document evidence that Watchtower claims to be the way the truth and the life, shey?

Thanks for your time! smiley

Courz:

Mad MaxinDhouse, why was it so hard for you to be bold and say Jesus is the only Way The Truth and The Life? Because you are in an Antichrist organisation based on the book of 2 John verse you quoted earlier. We all know what an Antichrist is. Someone or group of people claiming to be what Jesus is or ascribing to themselves what Jesus is or people seeking to replace Jesus or people who believe they are better than Jesus. An Antichrist is also one who never takes members of the religion directly to Jesus. This is exactly what TB Joshua did. He called himself The foretold Messiah. All the attention is on him as the means to Salvation. Look at all the disciples of Jesus, they took First century Christians straight to Jesus. They never at any time brought attention to themselves as the Way The Truth and The Life. They all tell Christians to follow Jesus! If you were in a Truly Christian Religion that follows Jesus, you will without hesitation and with so much pride in you, proclaim to the Rooftops that Jesus is the Only Way The Truth and The Life. You will never second guess yourself because Jesus is in you while you are in Jesus according to what Apostle Paul said. When I asked you who is lying between Jesus and Watchtower when they claimed to be the same thing, If you were truly in a Christian religion, You would say Watchtower are the Liars because Only Jesus is designated as the Way The Truth and The Life.
I am glad you mentioned the book of 2 John because it gave an expo directly from Jesus on how to identify people who are Antichrists and who are to be avoided. Those verses even made the warning serious by warning never to allow such people into your homes. This is why many people out there don't listen to you JWs when you preach. They are just following the command in that verse. Watchtower doesn't take you JWs directly to Jesus in the exact way the Apostles did with the 1st century Christians. Jesus is even barely mentioned in your Talks. No single JW can boast of having a strong relationship with Jesus because of this Brainwashing. Watchtower takes you JWs to themselves as the Way The Truth and The Life and to Jehovah. They say it is through them you can get Salvation But look at what Acts 4 Vs 11 and 12 says:
11# This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12#And there is a salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” That verse is saying No one on Earth has been given to be a means of Salvation. No One! Take note of the phrase No other name under heaven given among men. In other words, Jesus never sent anybody including Watchtower/ Faithful and discreet Slave to act as a means of Salvation for Christians. Can you see that the verses are proving Watchtower to be Liars?
But Almighty God gave a formula which is All Christians are to be taken to Jesus because if they are taken to Jesus, they are automatically taken to God of which Jesus himself confirmed. Now that verse is telling you that anyone who doesn't follow this formula is not even working for God in the first place.
This is how your Cult is very similar to TB Joshua.

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 4:28pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell there's no document evidence that Watchtower claims to be the way the truth and the life, shey?

Thanks for your time! smiley


Mad MaxinDhouse, you are chatting with someone who is an EXJW who knows your doctrines in and out way before you got baptised. You have been the one telling us in this forum numerous times that your Cult is the Way The Truth and The Life and We you call Apostates have been disagreeing with you. Watchtower taught you that. So, what proof are you asking for again? You are ashamed abi? You are ashamed that the Bible book of 2 John called you JWs Antichrists. You are ashamed that Acts 4 Vs 11 and 12 just revealed to you that Jesus Never selected Watchtower in 1919. Your Brain is telling you that Watchtower is an Antichrist and you are pretending not to know they have made these statements numerous times. You are pretending to be ignorant. You can't deceive anybody! You are mentally deranged. Wait for me to give you proof. Ode!

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So, Mad MaxinDhouse, your religion is no longer the Truth again? Is that what you are telling me? JW is no longer the Way to everlasting life? So, Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only ones who will get Salvation? So, the Faithful and Discreet Slave are no longer the only ones through which you can get Truth? SO, people must not join jW to get everlasting life? Is that what you are telling me now? What were you thinking was happening when you JWs claim to be the One True Religion, the only road to Life? How did you think you would look? You didn't know it was blasphemy abi. So, you didn't know that the Bible condemns anyone who claims to be the only means to Salvation other than Jesus?

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by achorladey: 7:45am On Jan 13
Emusan:


I know he will chuck his dirty mouth.

Had it been it's Watchtower now, you'll say it's a sponsor documentary or it's from the enemy just as followers of TB Joshua has done.

Meanwhile, many articles that had exposed your Watchtower of their fake fruits are like thousands to just one of this T B Joshua.

You don catch am grin grin grin.

The same person that had some sort of likeness for T B Joshua and Guru Maraj grin grin grin grin

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:53am On Jan 13
achorladey:

You don catch am grin grin grin.
The same person that had some sort of likeness for T B Joshua and Guru Maraj grin grin grin grin

That's what you guys failed woefully to grasp!

As a person i like both Guru Maharaji and TB Joshua but when it comes to worship i will tell you that they're not worshiping my own God.

So just as i like everyone around me including you but then telling you that we aren't on the same page regarding worship of God shouldn't lead to enmity, you have your God and i have mine all you just have to do is to be proud of what you have that's all!smiley

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by achorladey: 10:54am On Jan 13
MaxInDHouse:


That's what you guys failed woefully to grasp!

As a person i like both Guru Maharaji and TB Joshua but when it comes to worship i will tell you that they're not worshiping my own God.

So just as i like everyone around me including you but then telling you that we aren't on the same page regarding worship of God shouldn't lead to enmity, you have your God and i have mine all you just have to do is to be proud of what you have that's all!smiley

Why are you responding to my post. Your madness and insanities peddling brains cannot completely avoid it abi? grin grin grin

So just as i like everyone around me including you

We know your actions here states otherwise. I don't need lies and manipulations from your madness and insanities peddling brains your hands are typing.


but then telling you that we aren't on the same page regarding worship of God shouldn't lead to enmity,

Your actions here says otherwise grin grin angry



you have your God and i have mine all you just have to do is to be proud of what you have that's all

The above is the reason of your madness and insanities peddling.

That's what you guys failed woefully to grasp!

Misconstrue , redefining words, don't know the true meaning of words are the many madness and insanities peddling from your brains.

As a person i like both Guru Maharaji and TB Joshua but when it comes to worship i will tell you that they're not worshiping my own God.

You for deny or lie about it grin grin grin

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:05am On Jan 13
achorladey:

Why are you responding to my post. Your madness and insanities peddling brains cannot completely avoid it abi? grin grin grin
We know your actions here states otherwise. I don't need lies and manipulations from your madness and insanities peddling brains your hands are typing.
Your actions here says otherwise grin grin angry
The above is the reason of your madness and insanities peddling.
Misconstrue , redefining words, don't know the true meaning of words are the many madness and insanities peddling from your brains.
You for deny or lie about it grin grin grin

Ọmọ this is year 2024
So try to keep the past in the past and face the future, i don't hate you but sometimes it takes a little sense to know that you can't hate someone you can't see.
God's word said:

If anyone says, “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For the one who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
1John 4:20

How possible can you say someone who has never seen you before hate you?
If you and i board the same plane i'm 100% sure that we will both eat, drink, chat, joke and laugh together because you don't know me just as i don't know you.
So try to be proud of your God just as i'm proud of mine but if you feel that's not necessary it's OK.
I can't change you neither can you change me your God is not my God that's simple and there is nothing wrong in that if only you can be proud of what you have: your God! smiley

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by achorladey: 12:58pm On Jan 13
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ this is year 2024
So try to keep the past in the past and face the future, i don't hate you but sometimes it takes a little sense to know that you can't hate someone you can't see.
God's word said:

If anyone says, “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For the one who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
1John 4:20

How possible can you say someone who has never seen you before hate you?
If you and i board the same plane i'm 100% sure that we will both eat, drink, chat, joke and laugh together because you don't know me just as i don't know you.
So try to be proud of your God just as i'm proud of mine but if you feel that's not necessary it's OK.
I can't change you neither can you change me your God is not my God that's simple and there is nothing wrong in that if only you can be proud of what you have: your God! smiley

Ọmọ this is year 2024

Not year 1914 grin grin grin

So try to keep the past in the past and face the future

The consequences of the past are dealt with in the present and you have to live with it in the future.

I don't hate you but sometimes it takes a little sense to know that you can't hate someone you can't see.

grin grin grin at least you admit now that your little sense is filled with madness and insanities peddling when you go on with insult and abuses since you mark your presence here up till 2023 grin grin grin

God's word said:If anyone says, “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For the one who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
1John 4:20

Na now your lies and manipulating brains understand the essence of the scripture.

How possible can you say someone who has never seen you before hate you?

Your actions here are the evidence and you know your works as being a liar and a manipulatorgrin grin grin

If you and i board the same plane i'm 100% sure that we will both eat, drink, chat, joke and laugh together because you don't know me just as i don't know you.

Your madness and insanities peddling brains don't know that before yet you throw insults and abuses to look good and make your better performing performance group look great in your eyes grin grin grin

So try to be proud of your God just as i'm proud of mine but if you feel that's not necessary it's OK.

Because your madness and insanities peddling brains tells you I am not proud of my God not me. grin grin grin


I can't change you neither can you change me your God is not my God that's simple

Evidence of your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains

and there is nothing wrong in that if only you can be proud of what you have: your God!

Your badly lied to, manipulated and speculations filled madness and insanities peddling brains should tell you that your created thread on study with Jehovah’s witnesses says you remain a liar and manipulator about the God you are proud of.
Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 1:24pm On Jan 13
achorladey:


You don catch am grin grin grin.

The same person that had some sort of likeness for T B Joshua and Guru Maraj grin grin grin grin

What? 😲😲😲😲

Mad MaxinDhouse liked TB Joshua and Guru Maraji? Are you sure Mad MaxinDhouse isn't an Occultist himself? Look at the characters he liked! Wonders shall never end. I have never heard any JW like any of these characters. No JW has ever tried to identify with them. Guru Maraji wey be another Witch doctor. Chai. Mad MaxinDhouse, what are you doing in JW if you like these kind of people? No wonder your fellow JWs are calling you Apostate. It seems you are into Spiritism secretly. Your Elders for your congregation never catch you. 🤨🤨🤨🤨

WTF! 😲😲

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Re: What's The Difference Between TB Joshua And Reverend King? by Courz: 1:29pm On Jan 13
achorladey:




Not year 1914 grin grin grin



The consequences of the past are dealt with in the present and you have to live with it in the future.



grin grin grin at least you admit now that your little sense is filled with madness and insanities peddling when you go on with insult and abuses since you mark your presence here up till 2023 grin grin grin



Na now your lies and manipulating brains understand the essence of the scripture.



Your actions here are the evidence and you know your works as being a liar and a manipulatorgrin grin grin



Your madness and insanities peddling brains don't know that before yet you throw insults and abuses to look good and make your better performing performance group look great in your eyes grin grin grin



Because your madness and insanities peddling brains tells you I am not proud of my God not me. grin grin grin




Evidence of your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains



Your badly lied to, manipulated and speculations filled madness and insanities peddling brains should tell you that your created thread on study with Jehovah’s witnesses says you remain a liar and manipulator about the God you are proud of.

You no see the magic e wan perform before. Because I showed him Bible verses that condemn JW, he started to deny all the claims that he himself has been shouting in this forum. He is asking me to show him evidence where Watchtower claimed to be the Way The Truth and The Life. Something he himself has been chanting up and down.

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