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Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by dalitigator(m): 9:29am On Jan 15
I recently stumbled on some books that were excluded from both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, and I cannot help but agree with our Muslim brethren that the Bible has been greatly revised, and some books, chapters and information were excluded for reasons best known to persons or entities who either advised it or outrightly did so.

Just like the Psalms of David, which is a powerful book, there is also the Psalms of Solomon, which was excluded from the Canonical Bible for reasons I do not understand. I have read excerpts of the complete books of Ecclesacities and some other books of the Old Testament, such as the books of Judith, Gilgamesh and Enoch, which are all powerful books.

Thus, my question. Why were these books excluded from the Bible?

Do you know why?

kobojunkie
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Cruise777: 9:31am On Jan 15
Fifth to sixth book of Moses contains spells, sigil and vodoo

Almost all prophet were wizard who practice Magic
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by FxMasterz: 10:00am On Jan 15
dalitigator:
I recently stumbled on some books that were excluded from both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, and I cannot help but agree with our Muslim brethren that the Bible has been greatly revised, and some books, chapters and information were excluded for reasons best known to persons or entities who either advised it or outrightly did so.

Just like the Psalms of David, which is a powerful book, there is also the Psalms of Solomon, which was excluded from the Canonical Bible for reasons I do not understand. I have read excerpts of the complete books of Ecclesacities and some other books of the Old Testament, such as the books of Judith, Gilgamesh and Enoch, which are all powerful books.

Thus, my question. Why were these books excluded from the Bible?

Do you know why?

kobojunkie

You can't say that books were excluded from the Bible because there was no Bible until the Nicean council sat in 325 AD.

Instead, you should say why are some books not included as part of the Bible?

The formation of the Bible books took a very stringent process because at the time, almost everybody had something to write. So many lies and distorted accounts of events were flying around. Many of those lies didn't make it to the Bible because the Nicean fathers only included books whose authenticity and source they could confirm. Books without known sources were not included. Most New Testament books included were books written by the Apostles or their direct disciples. No matter how powerful a book may seem, if it does not fulfil certain criteria, it never made its way into the Bible. And when you look at the Bible, there's a rhyme in its theme. The books work in unison to announce God's plan of salvation and how He laboured hard through His Son to execute the plan for the human race whom He dearly loves.

The Muslims lie to themselves that the Bible has been edited several times, don't embrace their lies. Whenever they say that, they refer to the many English versions of the Bible that exists. But they do not seem to remember that the Bible wasn't written in English originally, and that the various English versions remain true to the original Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written. For example, the Hebrew Bible has an Old testament version that is both used by Christians and Jews. These sects are not religiously united. If Christians have edited their Bible, then, it would no longer correlate with the ones the Jews are carrying. Since Christians and Jews are using the same Old testament scriptures till date, the Islamic lies fall flat.

Moreover, the current Bible in use was what Mohammed preached to Muslims that they must respect. I mean the Bible that was collated in 325 Ad which did not include many other books for which reason you claim it has been edited according to your post.
Nothing has changed. Mohammed came into the picture about 200+ years after the Bible was canonized, and he enjoined Muslims to respect the same scripture which Muslims believe was edited even before Mohammed was born.

Above all, note that Jesus loves you. He came to earth purposely because of you to take your place in judgement. If you accept the offer of Jesus today, your sins would be forgiven. The righteousness of Jesus would be attributed to you and you would become a child of God. You would no longer be held accountable for your sins because Jesus paid on your behalf.

No religion saves, including Christianity. Only Jesus saves. Come to Him and you'll have eternal life.

Please stay away from the satanist kobojunkie whom you mentioned in your post. He's a satanic agent. A wolf in sheep clothing who seeks to hinder and obstruct the way of Christ.

May the peace of God be with you and guide your path into the everlasting Kingdom of God and of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Nbote(m): 10:17am On Jan 15
You ask why books were excluded from the bible like the bible was already complied and then had dome books removed. The same people who brought some books together as the bible deemed other books unfit. The same reason the books in the bible were chosen is the exact same reason the other not included were not chosen

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 3:51pm On Jan 15
dalitigator:
■ I recently stumbled on some books that were excluded from both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, and I cannot help but agree with our Muslim brethren that the Bible has been greatly revised, and some books, chapters and information were excluded for reasons best known to persons or entities who either advised it or outrightly did so.

Just like the Psalms of David, which is a powerful book, there is also the Psalms of Solomon, which was excluded from the Canonical Bible for reasons I do not understand. I have read excerpts of the complete books of Ecclesacities and some other books of the Old Testament, such as the books of Judith, Gilgamesh and Enoch, which are all powerful books.

Thus, my question. Why were these books excluded from the Bible?

Do you know why?

kobojunkie
Did you know that Neither God of Israel nor Jesus Christ of the Lost sheep of Israel gave men commands as far as what you call the canonization of Scripture. So to pretend your Bible someone legitimized or invalidates scripture in some way is ludicrous. Your Bible is simply a collection of some books and nothing more. If scripture is what you wish to learn then you read all books that qualify both those contained in your Bible and those nor contained in it. undecided

As for religion itself, God never gave men religion. What God gave the children of Israel in the Land of Canaan was His Law -- a National Constitution. Men decided for themselves to include religion as a go-between, against God and for that God destroyed both Israel and Judah. Equally, Jesus Christ gave those who would enter His Kingdom of God a Law -- also a National Constitution to obey. But as is the pattern of men, they inserted religion between Jesus Christ and His followers in order that they may rule over the minds and lives or their fellow men. undecided

What do I say all of this to mean? That religious doctrines and opinions/traditions have absolutely nothing to do with that which is of God of Israel nor Israel. undecided

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by dalitigator(m): 4:31pm On Jan 15
Kobojunkie:
Did you know that Neither God of Israel nor Jesus Christ of the Lost sheep of Israel gave men commands as far as what you call the canonization of Scripture. So to pretend your Bible someone legitimized or invalidates scripture in some way is ludicrous. Your Bible is simply a collection of some books and nothing more. If scripture is what you wish to learn then you read all books that qualify both those contained in your Bible and those nor contained in it. undecided

As for religion itself, God never gave men religion. What God gave the children of Israel in the Land of Canaan was His Law -- a National Constitution. Men decided for themselves to include religion as a go-between, against God and for that God destroyed both Israel and Judah. Equally, Jesus Christ gave those who would enter His Kingdom of God a Law -- also a National Constitution to obey. But as is the pattern of men, they inserted religion between Jesus Christ and His followers in order that they may rule over the minds and lives or their fellow men. undecided

What do I say all of this to mean? That religious doctrines and opinions/traditions have absolutely nothing to do with that which is of God of Israel nor Israel. undecided


So, you don't agree with the school of thought that postulates that the Bible was inspired by God, right?

And thus, the position of Dr. Abel Damina that the Bible is not the word of God, correct?
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 4:36pm On Jan 15
dalitigator:
■ So, you don't agree with the school of thought that postulates that the Bible was inspired by God, right?
■ And thus, the position of Dr. Abel Damina that the Bible is not the word of God, correct?
What Paul, the one they pretend to quote, said was that Scripture is inspired by God. Your Bible is not Scripture but rather a collection of books, many of which are Scripture. undecided

2. You do not need an Abel Damina telling you this. It is written no where in all of Scripture that your Bible is the word of God. The ideas regarding your Bible come from the doctrines and traditions of men--- religion-- which Jesus Christ warned were lies. undecided

The one regarded as the Word of God in Scripture is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is not your Bible.

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:46pm On Jan 15
FxMasterz:

You can't say that books were excluded from the Bible because there was no Bible until the Nicean council sat in 325 AD.

Instead, you should say why are some books not included as part of the Bible?

The formation of the Bible books took a very stringent process became at the time, almost everybody has something to write. So many lies and distorted accounts of events were flying around. Many of those lies didn't make it to the Bible because the Nicean fathers only included books whose authenticity and source they could confirm. Books without a known source were not included. Most New Testament books included were books written by the Apostles or their direct disciples. No matter how powerful a book may seem, if it does not fulfil certain criteria, it never made its way into the Bible. And when you look at the Bible, there's a rhyme in its theme. The books work in unison to announce God's plan of salvation and how He laboured hard through His Son to execute the plan for the human race whom He dearly loves.

Perfect!

Clearly, what did not fit and key in was excluded. Songs of Solo too no key in also.

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Mrvictorwrite(m): 12:43pm On Jan 26
it's just too complicated but take it the way you see it, nothing can be done about it
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 3:15pm On Jan 26
Mrvictorwrite:
it's just too complicated but take it the way you see it, nothing can be done about it
That's not true though. Nothing stops anyone from publishing a more complete collection if indeed that is what is desired. lipsrsealed
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Maynmaynmayn: 4:32pm On Jan 26
Kobojunkie:
What Paul, the one they pretend to quote, said was that Scripture is inspired by God.
You are quoting Paul or is it Saul, a known murderer, murdering the ebionites.

Tell me, after Paul or is it saul got his supposed vision, did he tell anyone or not?
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Expanse2020(m): 11:19pm On Jan 26
I can see kobojunkie telling truth today
Also truthdespeeker also gave a point
If song of Solomon made it to the bible what course the other 16chapters to be remove
Gospel of banabas
Gospel of steeve
Saint Joseph
Saint Mary's
Saint thomas
Mary mandalaine and others was cut out
What are they hidden
What are the pope and Catholic hidden
Try to get the new revise standard version and the new king James version some verse where also cut out what is happening to the Bible


And to start with bible it's self the word Bible was from bibliography (which literary means history of some people)

What Jesus actual brought Is gospel not bible

FX master you can lie oo did just say only those who meet Jesus that they are talking In the bible
Have you ever asked yourself
Who is Paul, mark, luke all this people didn't meet Jesus physical but they have chapters in the bible but those that meet Jesus thier name where left out steeve, maria, Joseph and other like that
Speak the truth so that it can set you free
Let the people know the truth

Check Google yourself they will tell you bible has 2 or more authors ....
can the book of God written by man.
Never will that happen

Bible is not book of God is gabbàge from Paul and the rest till he reach king James family

But Gospel given to the Jesus is from God

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 12:04am On Jan 27
Expanse2020:
I can see kobojunkie telling truth today
Also truthdespeeker also gave a point
If song of Solomon made it to the bible what course the other 16chapters to be remove
Gospel of banabas
Gospel of steeve
Saint Joseph
Saint Mary's
Saint thomas
Mary mandalaine and others was cut out
What are they hidden
What are the pope and Catholic hidden
Try to get the new revise standard version and the new king James version some verse where also cut out what is happening to the BibleAnd to start with bible it's self the word Bible was from bibliography (which literary means history of some people)
■ What Jesus actual brought Is gospel not bible
If you had read my statements, you have seen where I made clear that Scripture is different from a mere collection of books written by men pretending to speak for on behalf of God. 99.9% you indicated there do not qualify as Scripture, this you would have actually read and come to understand the writings of the Prophets and the message of God contained in them. At least you can understand that every claim that contradicts or contravenes the very message and teachings of God through His Prophets of Old cannot constitute Scripture. undecided

What Jesus Christ brought, the Gospel is a Law and agreement--- a Constitution --- for the Nation that is the Kingdom of God, God's Special Nation of Priests which He promised to make of Israel. So any writing that does not including of this or contravenes it in any way cannot be Scripture. undecided
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Maynmaynmayn: 2:13am On Jan 27
Kobojunkie:
If you had read my statements, you have seen where I made clear that Scripture is different from a mere collection of books written by men pretending to speak for on behalf of God. 99.9% you indicated there do not qualify as Scripture, this you would have actually read and come to understand the writings of the Prophets and the message of God contained in them. At least you can understand that every claim that contradicts or contravenes the very message and teachings of God through His Prophets of Old cannot constitute Scripture. undecided

What you are calling "scriptures" is just collection of Jewish books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
The people that wrote it did not intend for you to base your life on it.
Were you created for the "scriptures" or the "scriptures" were created for you?

"When reading or watching Hamlet that it is not a work of historiography, a work of writing about history.
It is a work of literature and in deference to that genre and its conventions, one can know and accept that the truths conveyed are not of historical fact, but are social, political, ethical, existential truths.

The Bible deserves at least the same courteous attention to its genres as Hamlet! The Bible doesn’t pretend to be, and shouldn’t be read as, what we would call “objective history”, in other words a bare narration of events"

https://minnstate.pressbooks.pub/bible/chapter/j-e-p-and-d/

Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by RightChannel: 3:23am On Jan 27
Maynmaynmayn:

What you are calling "scriptures" is just collection of Jewish books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
The people that wrote it did not intend for you to base your life on it.
Were you created for the "scriptures" or the "scriptures" were created for you?

"When reading or watching Hamlet that it is not a work of historiography, a work of writing about history.
It is a work of literature and in deference to that genre and its conventions, one can know and accept that the truths conveyed are not of historical fact, but are social, political, ethical, existential truths.

The Bible deserves at least the same courteous attention to its genres as Hamlet! The Bible doesn’t pretend to be, and shouldn’t be read as, what we would call “objective history”, in other words a bare narration of events"

https://minnstate.pressbooks.pub/bible/chapter/j-e-p-and-d/



3 John 1:2: Beloved, I pray that all may go well with you and that you may be in good health, as it goes well with your soul.
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Maynmaynmayn: 7:23am On Jan 27
RightChannel:



3 John 1:2: Beloved, I pray that all may go well with you and that you may be in good health, as it goes well with your soul.
John the apostle never wrote that..which cup did James and John drink with Jesus?
How many people were crucified beside Jesus?
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Expanse2020(m): 8:09am On Jan 27
Kobojunkie:
If you had read my statements, you have seen where I made clear that Scripture is different from a mere collection of books written by men pretending to speak for on behalf of God. 99.9% you indicated there do not qualify as Scripture, this you would have actually read and come to understand the writings of the Prophets and the message of God contained in them. At least you can understand that every claim that contradicts or contravenes the very message and teachings of God through His Prophets of Old cannot constitute Scripture. undecided

What Jesus Christ brought, the Gospel is a Law and agreement--- a Constitution --- for the Nation that is the Kingdom of God, God's Special Nation of Priests which He promised to make of Israel. So any writing that does not including of this or contravenes it in any way cannot be Scripture. undecided
Yeah we are in the same term on this by actually revealing the truth about the book..

But some pple like FZ master, Qtenz will argue till tomorrow that the bible is word of God and God word cannot or ever contradictory, repetition or copy and paste from place to others....
What the prophets brought our different from what we witness today in the bible...
Only few verses are the words of the God in their
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Expanse2020(m): 8:15am On Jan 27
Maynmaynmayn:

What you are calling "scriptures" is just collection of Jewish books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
The people that wrote it did not intend for you to base your life on it.
Were you created for the "scriptures" or the "scriptures" were created for you?

"When reading or watching Hamlet that it is not a work of historiography, a work of writing about history.
It is a work of literature and in deference to that genre and its conventions, one can know and accept that the truths conveyed are not of historical fact, but are social, political, ethical, existential truths.

The Bible deserves at least the same courteous attention to its genres as Hamlet! The Bible doesn’t pretend to be, and shouldn’t be read as, what we would call “objective history”, in other words a bare narration of events"

https://minnstate.pressbooks.pub/bible/chapter/j-e-p-and-d/

The world bible even was derive from bibliography so what are you insulnating self
Go check what historian said about bible research and stop defending what you don't know
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Maynmaynmayn: 8:16am On Jan 27
Expanse2020:

The world bible even was derive from bibliography so what are you insulnating self
Go check what historian said about bible research and stop defending what you don't know
And bible from latin babilia or so means collection of books, and has no religion connotations.

Which historian uses "bible" as reference?
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Jackanda1(m): 12:50pm On Jan 27
So you don't believe that God with his infinite wisdom and strength can influence people to remove some books that he doesn't want included in the scriptures for whatever reason best known to him?

Is the Bible not enough for you?
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by kkins25(m): 1:24pm On Jan 27
Expanse2020:
I can see kobojunkie telling truth today
Also truthdespeeker also gave a point
If song of Solomon made it to the bible what course the other 16chapters to be remove
Gospel of banabas
Gospel of steeve
Saint Joseph
Saint Mary's
Saint thomas
Mary mandalaine and others was cut out
What are they hidden
What are the pope and Catholic hidden
Try to get the new revise standard version and the new king James version some verse where also cut out what is happening to the Bible

And to start with bible it's self the word Bible was from bibliography (which literary means history of some people)

What Jesus actual brought Is gospel not bible

FX master

You're half right and half wrong.

First thing's first, no single book in the current bible was inspired by God. Because, then, how would the people prove it such?

To the matter, most of the books you mentioned aren't genuine. Not in the sense that the canonical scriptures, in themselves, are accurate, but that the books you've mentioned were written by fans. Yep. The same way people make alternative outcomes to anime scenes, movies, etc. Religious books also have fan fiction.

Apostolic authorship: The books were either not written by an apostle or were considered to have insufficient spiritual content.

We know for sure that most of the gospels aren't written by those they are named after. We don't even have the oldest and authentic documents. In fact, all accounts of the gospels are fan made. Some were just closer to the original than others. For instance, you find major discrepancies here and there on the accounts of Jesus' life. How can God-inspired book have contradictions?

Orthodoxy: The books did not conform to the essential teachings that all churches accepted.
Yep. The same guys going about killing innocent people are the ones to tell us what's holy or not.

Usage: The books were not widely used by the churches from the beginning.
Ahhh... any book that church fathers found wasn't helping their ministry was thrown out. God that inspired it, him no get sense abi? So, church father don turn God?

Divine inspiration: The books were not considered to be divinely inspired.
The fifty shades of grey, the harry potter books, and so on, were all inspired by God. Bite me!


Authority: The books were considered to lack the authority of the Gospels.
This I can somewhat side with. There are thousands of manuscripts that were written all bearing "gospel of mathew" "Gospel of John," and so on. But each of them was different from the other. How? So, you see, Christianity had a large fan base, and many fans didn't like the plot. If life gives you lemons, make lemonade, and that's exactly what they did. They made their own gospels. Infact, I'd argue that gospel of John is one of those.

Controversial material: The books contained material that Early Orthodox Christian leaders did not agree with.
Anybook that didn't fit into the narrative of christianity that the church daddys had was thrown in the dustbin.

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by HellVictorinho6(m): 1:46pm On Jan 27
Try benson
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 3:52pm On Jan 27
Expanse2020:
What the prophets brought our different from what we witness today in the bible...
Only few verses are the words of the God in
their
These statement are false. undecided

For each statement in everyone of the books of Scripture, you would need to provide evidence for why it should not not considered so. Not even your academic scholars have been able to do any of that. lipsrsealed
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by triplechoice(m): 6:45pm On Jan 27
Jackanda1:
So you don't believe that God with his infinite wisdom and strength can influence people to remove some books that he doesn't want included in the scriptures for whatever reason best known to him?

Is the Bible not enough for you?

Removing them after inspiring the same books with his "infinite wisdom and strength" ?
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Steep: 7:04pm On Jan 27
kkins25:


You're half right and half wrong.

First thing's first, no single book in the current bible was inspired by God. Because, then, how would the people prove it such?

To the matter, most of the books you mentioned aren't genuine. Not in the sense that the canonical scriptures, in themselves, are accurate, but that the books you've mentioned were written by fans. Yep. The same way people make alternative outcomes to anime scenes, movies, etc. Religious books also have fan fiction.



We know for sure that most of the gospels aren't written by those they are named after. We don't even have the oldest and authentic documents. In fact, all accounts of the gospels are fan made. Some were just closer to the original than others. For instance, you find major discrepancies here and there on the accounts of Jesus' life. How can God-inspired book have contradictions?

Yep. The same guys going about killing innocent people are the ones to tell us what's holy or not.


Ahhh... any book that church fathers found wasn't helping their ministry was thrown out. God that inspired it, him no get sense abi? So, church father don turn God?

The fifty shades of grey, the harry potter books, and so on, were all inspired by God. Bite me!


This I can somewhat side with. There are thousands of manuscripts that were written all bearing "gospel of mathew" "Gospel of John," and so on. But each of them was different from the other. How? So, you see, Christianity had a large fan base, and many fans didn't like the plot. If life gives you lemons, make lemonade, and that's exactly what they did. They made their own gospels. Infact, I'd argue that gospel of John is one of those.

Anybook that didn't fit into the narrative of christianity that the church daddys had was thrown in the dustbin.

Go and read about the history of the bible and stop spewing ignorance.
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Steep: 7:05pm On Jan 27
Kobojunkie:
If you had read my statements, you have seen where I made clear that Scripture is different from a mere collection of books written by men pretending to speak for on behalf of God. 99.9% you indicated there do not qualify as Scripture, this you would have actually read and come to understand the writings of the Prophets and the message of God contained in them. At least you can understand that every claim that contradicts or contravenes the very message and teachings of God through His Prophets of Old cannot constitute Scripture. undecided

What Jesus Christ brought, the Gospel is a Law and agreement--- a Constitution --- for the Nation that is the Kingdom of God, God's Special Nation of Priests which He promised to make of Israel. So any writing that does not including of this or contravenes it in any way cannot be Scripture. undecided
talking nonsense as usual. Jezebel.
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Steep: 7:06pm On Jan 27
FxMasterz:


You can't say that books were excluded from the Bible because there was no Bible until the Nicean council sat in 325 AD.

Instead, you should say why are some books not included as part of the Bible?

The formation of the Bible books took a very stringent process because at the time, almost everybody had something to write. So many lies and distorted accounts of events were flying around. Many of those lies didn't make it to the Bible because the Nicean fathers only included books whose authenticity and source they could confirm. Books without known sources were not included. Most New Testament books included were books written by the Apostles or their direct disciples. No matter how powerful a book may seem, if it does not fulfil certain criteria, it never made its way into the Bible. And when you look at the Bible, there's a rhyme in its theme. The books work in unison to announce God's plan of salvation and how He laboured hard through His Son to execute the plan for the human race whom He dearly loves.

The Muslims lie to themselves that the Bible has been edited several times, don't embrace their lies. Whenever they say that, they refer to the many English versions of the Bible that exists. But they do not seem to remember that the Bible wasn't written in English originally, and that the various English versions remain true to the original Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written. For example, the Hebrew Bible has an Old testament version that is both used by Christians and Jews. These sects are not religiously united. If Christians have edited their Bible, then, it would no longer correlate with the ones the Jews are carrying. Since Christians and Jews are using the same Old testament scriptures till date, the Islamic lies fall flat.

Moreover, the current Bible in use was what Mohammed preached to Muslims that they must respect. I mean the Bible that was collated in 325 Ad which did not include many other books for which reason you claim it has been edited according to your post.
Nothing has changed. Mohammed came into the picture about 200+ years after the Bible was canonized, and he enjoined Muslims to respect the same scripture which Muslims believe was edited even before Mohammed was born.

Above all, note that Jesus loves you. He came to earth purposely because of you to take your place in judgement. If you accept the offer of Jesus today, your sins would be forgiven. The righteousness of Jesus would be attributed to you and you would become a child of God. You would no longer be held accountable for your sins because Jesus paid on your behalf.

No religion saves, including Christianity. Only Jesus saves. Come to Him and you'll have eternal life.

Please stay away from the satanist kobojunkie whom you mentioned in your post. He's a satanic agent. A wolf in sheep clothing who seeks to hinder and obstruct the way of Christ.

May the peace of God be with you and guide your path into the everlasting Kingdom of God and of our Lord Jesus Christ.
you are very correct. Keep it up.

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Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Steep: 7:09pm On Jan 27
Dtruthspeaker:


Perfect!

Clearly, what did not fit and key in was excluded. Songs of Solo too no key in also.
it's clear you don't know that the jews regard the songs of solo as inspired.
Songs of solo is a very beautiful book about pure love and desire for a spouse, it tells us God establishes relationship with his people not mere religion.
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Expanse2020(m): 8:02pm On Jan 27
Kobojunkie:
These statement are false. undecided

For each statement in everyone of the books of Scripture, you would need to provide evidence for why it should not not considered so. Not even your academic scholars have been able to do any of that. lipsrsealed
So are you saying all those song of Solomon are God word...
And the verses where the God pass overnight and strike everyone down including baby and animals.... are God word...
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 8:21pm On Jan 27
Expanse2020:
So are you saying all those song of Solomon are God word...
■ And the verses where the God pass overnight and strike everyone down including baby and animals.... are God word...
Did Solomon write anywhere in his songs that those were words of God Himself through Him Solomon? When the words of Satan were represented in Scripture, did the writers in fact state that even those too were words of God Himself? Stop confusing yourself and try to focus on first understanding what the Word of God is from the opinions of men and even the statements of Satan also contained in parts of even Scripture. undecided

2. You would need to be specific about the passage you quote. undecided
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by KingNom(m): 11:50pm On Jan 27
Theologist to the rescue!
Re: Why Where Some Books Exlcuded From The Bible? by AntiChristian: 8:11am On Jan 28
FxMasterz:


You can't say that books were excluded from the Bible because there was no Bible until the Nicean council sat in 325 AD.

Instead, you should say why are some books not included as part of the Bible?

The formation of the Bible books took a very stringent process because at the time, almost everybody had something to write. So many lies and distorted accounts of events were flying around. Many of those lies didn't make it to the Bible because the Nicean fathers only included books whose authenticity and source they could confirm. Books without known sources were not included. Most New Testament books included were books written by the Apostles or their direct disciples. No matter how powerful a book may seem, if it does not fulfil certain criteria, it never made its way into the Bible. And when you look at the Bible, there's a rhyme in its theme. The books work in unison to announce God's plan of salvation and how He laboured hard through His Son to execute the plan for the human race whom He dearly loves.

The summary of the above is that the Nicean council were the holy spirit that created the Bible!

The Muslims lie to themselves that the Bible has been edited several times, don't embrace their lies. Whenever they say that, they refer to the many English versions of the Bible that exists. But they do not seem to remember that the Bible wasn't written in English originally, and that the various English versions remain true to the original Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written. For example, the Hebrew Bible has an Old testament version that is both used by Christians and Jews. These sects are not religiously united. If Christians have edited their Bible, then, it would no longer correlate with the ones the Jews are carrying. Since Christians and Jews are using the same Old testament scriptures till date, the Islamic lies fall flat.
Evidence abound that even the Hebrew and Greek scriptures of the old and new testament, no two manuscripts are exactly the same!

Out of the thousands that exists of each! No two are exactly the same! And you are the liar here as the English translations at later times after KJV were usually as a result of the discovery of earlier scripture!

Moreover, the current Bible in use was what Mohammed preached to Muslims that they must respect. I mean the Bible that was collated in 325 Ad which did not include many other books for which reason you claim it has been edited according to your post.
Nothing has changed. Mohammed came into the picture about 200+ years after the Bible was canonized, and he enjoined Muslims to respect the same scripture which Muslims believe was edited even before Mohammed was born.
This are lies from the pit of hell! When was the Hebrew old testament translated to Arabic? When was the Greek new testament translated to Arabic? Jesus preached the gospel! The gospel he preached is what we believe in as being the word of God just like the Qur'an!

We don't know the gospel according to Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. We don't know the over ten books of Paul to the Galatians, etc!

How can you brazenly lie that the books of Paul were what our prophet said we should accept?

Above all, note that Jesus loves you. He came to earth purposely because of you to take your place in judgement. If you accept the offer of Jesus today, your sins would be forgiven. The righteousness of Jesus would be attributed to you and you would become a child of God. You would no longer be held accountable for your sins because Jesus paid on your behalf.
Jesus can of himself do nothing! He's just a messenger of God! And no one else can carry other's sin! It's all man for himself!

No religion saves, including Christianity. Only Jesus saves. Come to Him and you'll have eternal life.
Even Jesus can't save himself from anything!

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