Dsimmer:



As I said, I deal in fact, not stupidity!

The fact which is Yoruba only has its meaning in Yoruba. It's in Yoruba proverb as a matter of fact. Also The word Yoruba was mentioned in a manuscript in 1614 while making reference to the different people in Africa.

Yoruba was the name which Oyo people were bearing and it only has its meaning in Yoruba language.

The point is Yoruba groups had several names they were bearing before Yoruba was eventually used for everyone. The word Yarba was because some foreigners couldn't pronounce the word (Yo'oba) which was for the Oyo folks. It has no meaning in any language. Yooba (Yoruba) only has its meaning in Yoruba language which is Oyo ori Oba! It's in Yoruba proverb as a matter of fact. 9ice also mentioned it in his music.

ariesbull:
some of my ijebu guys hate me calling them Yoruba same as Okun and Egun

Dsimmer:


Your delusion.

Yoruba means Oyo is king. It's a good name.

ariesbull:
lies

Brendaniel:


Show me evidence of Igbos insulting their host or calling Lagos no man's land....

ariesbull:
lies

Christistruth00:



Oyo Oba = Yoruba

Oyo Oba is the same meaning as Oyo Alaafin

Christistruth00:



Oyo Oba = Yoruba

Oyo Oba is the same meaning as Oyo Alaafin

Brendaniel:


So one person's comment on social media that we are not even sure if he is just using an Igbo name to disguise is now the voice of millions of Igbos all over the world?

ariesbull:
As an ethnic description, the word "Yoruba" was first recorded in reference to the Oyo Empire in a treatise written by the 16th century Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba.

It was popularized by Hausa usage and ethnography written in Arabic and Ajami during the 19th century, in origin referring to the Oyo exclusively.

The extension of the term to all speakers of dialects related to the usage of the Oyo (in modern terminology North-West Yoruba) dates to the second half of the 19th century.

It is due to the influence of Samuel Ajayi Crowther, the first Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Crowther was himself a Yoruba and compiled the first Yoruba dictionary as well as introducing a standard for Yoruba orthography.

The alternative name Akú, apparently an exonym derived from the first words of Yoruba greetings (such as Ẹ kú àárọ? "good morning", Ẹ kú alẹ? "good evening"wink has survived in certain parts of our diaspora as a self-descriptive, especially in Sierra Leone.

The first name the Yorubas were called was Yoruba.

What does that mean? I carried on, Samuel Ajayi Crowther in his Yoruba dictionary defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person in Hausa.

Another description comes from the Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.

It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa. Perhaps this might have been a result of Yoruba people’s bargaining skills which often made the Fulani traders fall victim of trade by barter.

Some say that the word Yoruba started protruding during the clash between Yoruba and Fulani that steered the lost of Ilorin to them in the 18th century.

Professor Ade Ajayi in “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.

Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers.

The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation. Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.

Furthermore, in the Ifa Corpus there's no Odu where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, it is as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.

Thus said, the word Yoruba is new in our vocabulary and it is a way of showing we accepted a negative appellation dropped on us by hostile foreigners.

Debo Kayode Ogunranti

ariesbull:
As an ethnic description, the word "Yoruba" was first recorded in reference to the Oyo Empire in a treatise written by the 16th century Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba.

It was popularized by Hausa usage and ethnography written in Arabic and Ajami during the 19th century, in origin referring to the Oyo exclusively.

The extension of the term to all speakers of dialects related to the usage of the Oyo (in modern terminology North-West Yoruba) dates to the second half of the 19th century.

It is due to the influence of Samuel Ajayi Crowther, the first Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Crowther was himself a Yoruba and compiled the first Yoruba dictionary as well as introducing a standard for Yoruba orthography.

The alternative name Akú, apparently an exonym derived from the first words of Yoruba greetings (such as Ẹ kú àárọ? "good morning", Ẹ kú alẹ? "good evening"wink has survived in certain parts of our diaspora as a self-descriptive, especially in Sierra Leone.

The first name the Yorubas were called was Yoruba.

What does that mean? I carried on, Samuel Ajayi Crowther in his Yoruba dictionary defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person in Hausa.

Another description comes from the Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.

It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa. Perhaps this might have been a result of Yoruba people’s bargaining skills which often made the Fulani traders fall victim of trade by barter.

Some say that the word Yoruba started protruding during the clash between Yoruba and Fulani that steered the lost of Ilorin to them in the 18th century.

Professor Ade Ajayi in “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.

Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers.

The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation. Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.

Furthermore, in the Ifa Corpus there's no Odu where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, it is as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.

Thus said, the word Yoruba is new in our vocabulary and it is a way of showing we accepted a negative appellation dropped on us by hostile foreigners.

Debo Kayode Ogunranti

Dsimmer:


You're still crying with your baseless gibberish without facts. It's no more Hausa? 😂 After you realized it had no meaning in Hausa and Fulani. Lol.

Point is the word Yoruba has no meaning in any language except in Yoruba language. That's a fact!

The word Yoruba simply translate into Oyo Ori Oba which is "Oyo is the Kinghead". It's in Yoruba proverb as a matter of fact. In fact, 9ice also mentioned it in his music.

Of course, Yoruba groups had several names they were bearing before Yoruba (Yooba) was eventually used for everyone. The word Yarba was because some foreigners couldn't pronounce the name Yo'oba which was what the Oyo folks was bearing. It has no meaning in any language except in Yoruba language. That's a fact!

Of course it was Oranmiyan that coined the Yoruba name. IFA refers to Yoruba as Omo Kaaro Ojiire (children of blessings), Omo Oduduwa (children of Oduduwa/the black earth creation), Omoluabi (children of God/righteousness) etc.

Oranmiyan gave the name Yoruba which means "Oyo is the Kinghead".

Christistruth00:



Chinasa Nworu is a well known Ipob Leader

His Twitter handle is verified

That tweet is very small compared to what he usually Tweets

Brendaniel:


And Chinasa Nworu is just 1 Igbo man out of millions of Igbos, so if 1 Yoruba man insults Igbos I can conclude all Yorubas are insulting Igbos?

Christistruth00:



He is an Ipob Leader
Or was Osama bin laden just one Arab

The leader of Hamas who has only one left Arm and no legs look at the Calamity he has caused in the Middle East by the October attack he planned and organized

Is he just one man

Christistruth00:



Oyo Oba = Yoruba

Oyo Oba is the same meaning as Oyo Alaafin

Olachase:
now check urself very well ori ta yin, your mom was born in Lagos so she is now part of Lagos owner L L ask ur mom very well her reply should be we are from Abia or Imo

over here in seme Yoruba is their second official language, Yorubas own some part of Local Government they didn't migrate same applies to kabba in kogi

my point is ur mum is never a Lagosian she travel home every December to see her family buh the Yorubas in seme and kabba that's their home

ariesbull:
lol

Dsimmer:


By who exactly?

You mean people writing gibberish without facts?

I deal in facts, not stupidity!

The word Yoruba has no meaning in Hausa. That's a fact. The word, Yoruba only has its meaning in Yoruba language. That's a fact!

Another fact is, even before the Hausa, the Yoruba name was already mentioned in a manuscript in 1614 while the Manden was making reference to the different group of people in Africa. I deal in fact, not stupidity!

The Yoruba name only has its meaning in Yoruba which is Oyo ori Oba. It's also in Yoruba proverbs as a matter of fact. In fact, 9ice also mentioned it in his music.

ariesbull:
lol