I noticed many people like to shame their ancestors, labeling them as weak and unintelligent and failures,comparing them to the Whites.

There's a history archive of pictures taken by colonialists in the late 19th century such as during the European wars on city states like Benin, anioma country ,the aro etc.

One thing you will notice is that though their buildings were made of mud and rafia palms,they were very huge,some reaching modern story buildings,very well built and elegantly designed,they weren't just easy mud huts we see today,many of those magnificent structures ,including very high and strong walls were deliberately pulled down and burnt during the wars with the Europeans that's why many of those magnificent structures were lost,the subsequent huts that were built were hurriedly built due to the poverty inflicted by the ravage of the colonialist.

The elegant swords they made,the great higj strong walls,the art,the hairstyles of the women these things showed that African ancestors did a lot,they weren't some Bush ignorant men that today's Africans portray their ancestors as.

The key thing to note is that they utilised the Knowledge and materials available to them to the fullest and they were very hardworking.

look Asia was not so different from Africa even in the 19th century,I see people talking about the great inventions and cities of China as a great power in the world but looking at pictures of Asia and China even in the 19th century it was the same as most of African cities.

There was a picture of Singapore in 1900 and Lagos at the same time posted on X sometime ago,Lagos as at then looked far better than Singapore but what do we have today?

The modern Africans have completely degraded their abilities.

The Europeans had cross-fertilisation of knowledge coming from the Greeks and Romans which allowed them to develop so fast and they knew the secret of technology faster then any other race.

Africans were victims of their location, but they maximised what they knew and there are proofs.

They made some mistakes too,like engaging in enslaving their people for European goods.It was a costly mistake.

However,modern Africans are not doing as much as their ancestors did even with better knowledge,they wait for oyinbo to do everything for them.

Common road and bridges they can't build on their own.

Na oyinbo they do everything for us now,

Modern Africans are the ones doing badly,yet they have the guts to villify African ancient accomplishments,the fools are less accomplished and are not maximising the knowledge they have, having learnt from the Europeans about technology which our ancestors didn't know,yet they cannot engage those high technology effectively for their people success instead they are just messing around, destroying themselves.

False..

While we have this hard constructs building. It's still nothing compare to the magnificent castles in medieval Europe, the grand Wall of Nineva in the BCE, or grand city of Baghdad during the golden age of the Kalif.

Our ancestors might be hardworking but not as exploitative or grandeur as you piant it to be. The prefer the miniature close nit structure of communal living, with just the right tools to sustain their life and not explore it.

You want to compare shitty mud buildings to european architecture. As of the 1800s, americans were building skyscrapers. Look at new york from 1800 and no african city comes close. The black man is cursed!!!!!!.

Simeonjoe1:
False..

While we have this hard constructs building. It's still nothing compare to the magnificent castles in medieval Europe, the grand Wall of Nineva in the BCE, or grand city of Baghdad during the golden age of the Kalif.

Our ancestors might be hardworking but not as exploitative or grandeur as you piant it to be. The prefer the miniature close nit structure of communal living, with just the right tools to sustain their life and not explore it.

False,African societies were just coming together during the time of Nineveh ,from archaeological research so far,a city like Nineveh is older than every African city,there was no time to consolidate and built those structures.

Like I said,the European castles were built from foundational knowledge of Roman and Greek architecture, Africans were not privy to that knowledge, that's why I said they maximised their knowledge

Wrong

tensazangetsu20:
You want to compare shitty mud buildings to european architecture. As of the 1800s, americans were building skyscrapers. Look at new york from 1800 and no african city comes close. The black man is cursed!!!!!!.

I said from the knowledge available to them,Europeans had prior knowledge from Greek and Roman architecture, who got their knowledge from the early Egyptian civilisations

babasolution:


False,African societies were just coming together during the time of Nineveh ,from archaeological research so far,a city like Nineveh is older than every African city,there was no time to consolidate and built those structures.

Like I said,the European castles were built from foundational knowledge of Roman and Greek architecture, Africans were not privy to that knowledge, that's why I said they maximised their knowledge

I agree a little.
The continent of Africa is a huge disadvantage to its populace. The development of Europe, Carthage, other northern Africa, Middle East and far Asia is all about constant communications through trade, wars and conquest, cultural exchanges and scholars exploration. Those were the known world back then, the rest of the world was not caught up in this rollarcoster human interaction which comes with its benefits and its devastating destruction also.
Africa is isolated, we are of not much advantage to the known world, we trade but not as much to bring the needed exploration or knowledge transfer, sub-Saharan Africa missed the golden age, medevial age and industrial age.
When they finally came they were more advanced in it resulted to in balance of trade-direct exploitation and colonisation.

This same disadvantage we have now. When people blame our leaders on while Africa is underdeveloped, or fails to follow the booming development in South East Asia and European countries. I believe it's all about the continent, sub-Saharan Africa doesn't falls in the major trade route, we offer little significance to worlds trade, we have nothing to bargain for so we are left behind to scrabble from scratch which is almost impossible in a now integrated world where you can't develop alone.

Simeonjoe1:


I agree a little.
The continent of Africa is a huge disadvantage to its populace. The development of Europe, Carthage, other northern Africa, Middle East and far Asia is all about constant communications through trade, wars and conquest, cultural exchanges and scholars exploration. Those were the known world back then, the rest of the world was not caught up in this rollarcoster human interaction which comes with its benefits and its devastating destruction also.
Africa is isolated, we are of not much advantage to the known world, we trade but not as much to bring the needed exploration or knowledge transfer, sub-Saharan Africa missed the golden age, medevial age and industrial age.
When they finally came they were more advanced in it resulted to in balance of trade-direct exploitation and colonisation.

This same disadvantage we have now. When people blame our leaders on while Africa is underdeveloped, or fails to follow the booming development in South East Asia and European countries. I believe it's all about the continent, sub-Saharan Africa doesn't falls in the major trade route, we offer little significance to worlds trade, we have nothing to bargain for so we are left behind to scrabble from scratch which is almost impossible in a now integrated world where you can't develop alone.

Modern Africans have to realise this disadvantage and use whatever is available to them to make headway, but modern Africans aren't doing this,with better management of available resources and overall better governance it can be achieved

babasolution:


Modern Africans have to realise this disadvantage and use whatever is available to them to make headway, but modern Africans aren't doing this,with better management of available resources and overall better governance it can be achieved

When we talk about resources in laugh.
There nothing special about our resources, and breaking out of this disadvantage will be long and hard.
Our resources would have been a big advantage for us 100 years ago but now they aren't special. Anything we claim to have others have it too in abundance.
Africa will develop, and the development will be gradually occur or still be spontaneous.
There's always a curve margin in human development, with times it spills.
Europe get to saturation and it spills to South East Asia, Asia will get to its point and it'll get to Africa also.

It's just how your local rural community slowly urbanize, you either force it and even if you don't, urbanization will still happen ditto at it's own pace.

I believe the developed world has not shifted their attention towards Africa they are still at Asia and some Middle East countries.
Either we force then to shift their attention on us or they'll shift it spontaneously, which might happen sooner with the declining productive population in Europe, outsourcing of production to other countries (Asia for now, Africa later), and lower tariff of exported goods from developing economy (which the Asian are cashing big on, but they'll still hit their saturation point and it'll be shifted to Africa).

A new Africa frontier will be open, they'll be competition from big individuals, big cooperation, massive investment, even if Africa is not ready they'll force you to be, it'll be spontaneous and like nothing you've never imagine and when this happen you'll be surprised to see how fast it'll be for Africa to catch up on the world's development.

But if you think we can do that alone without external influence, it'll be a hard long winter for us.

babasolution:


Modern Africans have to realise this disadvantage and use whatever is available to them to make headway, but modern Africans aren't doing this,with better management of available resources and overall better governance it can be achieved

For many decades we've always talked about better governance, a better governance.
And I usually ask my self;
Of all the thousands of leaders that have ruled African are we saying we don't have a single good leadership?
If we had then why are we still in this shambles?
Take Nigeria for example, we've had dozens of president, hundreds more of governors.
We've had staunch critics and change advocate take leadership roles. We've seen people with good ideas takes up leadership positions, we've have them all, the good and the bad leaders (based on your context) but our problem still persist.

Maybe, just maybe we are expecting too much than what we are capable of giving and if that is the case we would need external help that's capable of giving us more than what Nigeria and Nigerians can give us currently...This here is my personal theory though