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Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Abemy(m): 10:47am On Feb 26 |
Hunger in the land is real. Tinibu the bad president is not the sole cause of the hunger, Buhari is the major cause, I don't belong to any political affiliation. Had Buhari tamed his so called Gadafi boys and allow farmers do their thing, no matter the policies, we would have had enough food to eat. Buhari, El-Rufai, Atiku, and the entire Fulanis should be held accountable for the hunger and starvation in the land. Tinibu, who is only good in politics, but bad in governance, should as a matter of urgency, address the issue of farmers and farmlands invasion by killer herdsmen, Nationwide, so that the farmers can cultivate more foods. Pretending to have removed subsidy, which was at N400bn before his regime, but still paying N905bn as subsidy, while the price soar higher is another policy that must be reversed. Dear Nigerians, the Fulanis, share 90% blame, for the hunger in the land. This is a fact and not any fiction or hate speech. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by advanceDNA: 11:12am On Feb 26 |
He is responsible...... The IMF did not force him to use 99% of our oil and only foreign revenue to service debt.....he's only doing it because he wants to quickly pay off a large chunk so he can borrow more.... I mean...why will u cripple ur internal sources of revenue(IGR)...nearly all companies are posting losses...pple that should pay PAYE taxes are losing jobs...SMEs are almost dead.. yet you use all oil revenue to service loans...?? Why will a Father use all the income he makes to clear loans that won't finish when he has children who need medical care, food and school fees....?? he supposed do am half-half in order to balance things.... The situation of the country shouldn't be this bad ...if he only removed part of the peg on the currency..... And the bad part is ..the money gained for removal of oil and pegging the currency is no where to be found..... |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 11:39am On Feb 26 |
advanceDNA:Regarding the issue of debt, u cannot escape it or u risk default? Do u know what that means? Nigeria used a huge chunk of revenue to service debts, that's the reality.... The OP is correct, Tinubu has his own blame but u cannot ignore the previous government inefficiencies that led us to this situation. 4 Likes |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by advanceDNA: 11:59am On Feb 26 |
Minsk24: Propaganda is what this government is feeding u with....What will happen if he he uses half instead of 99%?? Will IMF arrest all of us ?? We ddnt have debts during buhari's government??did we not have debts during obasanjo era?? Baba still paid debts and grew foreign reserves, yet pegged the naira a bit... Cost of crude shoots high with every new president that rules in this nation..its even higher than obasanjo era now... we refuse to curb embezzlement.... We refuse to curb oil theft .... We refuse to cut down cost of governance... Nothing is being done to promote local manufacturing .... U are now telling me Nigerians must suffer because of paying debts yet he and his thief-thief government can drive bullet proof cars, collect estacodes and still fund free hajj trips with the same dollar they claim is not enough All of una wey dey support this government's policy by hiding under debt payment.... Una dey craze...... 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 12:10pm On Feb 26 |
advanceDNA:Lol, who told u Nigeria is using 99% revenue to service debt? That means Nigeria budget is running on 1% revenue? I don't know the exact figure but it is not 99% Tinubu government is doing lots of things wrong, but u cannot ignore the fact that he inherited a nation on the brink, so despite his shortcomings, we cannot ignore that fact .. I am not here to debate tinubu economic policies coz i dont know the direction of his policies, i am not optimistic about his administration, but he inherited a mess, this is a fact |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Bullfallo(m): 12:17pm On Feb 26 |
Tinubu is only lying because the policies backfired. He only needed more money to be free in his hands to squander and buy loyalist and future elections. The policies backfired as we all have predicted. Closing the naira to dollar gap is a good thing to avoid round tripping. But not funding it with more dollars is why the gaps keep increasing each and every time the gaps is closed by cbn. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by advanceDNA: 12:36pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24: That's the lies they feed u with.....that they are using nearly all they have to fund debt .all administration inherited a mess...that's what u don't get.....from obasanjo to tinubu.... This is not new...and he should stop using that as an excuse to suffer Nigerians, spreading lies that all forms of subsidy is an abomination that must be avoided.....yet they know how to subsidize and even pay for free hajj trips Don't forget they all have advantage of higher crude oil prices....they should stop their lies, stealing, and get to work 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 12:48pm On Feb 26 |
advanceDNA:Oga keep ur emotions aside and use common sense, Nigeria is going down towards anarchy with the current state of things, the current administration inherited a mess, but it is inefficient so far in solving the problems of Nigeria, everything is not about lies, it is plain to see that Nigeria is going down, thanks in no small part to the previous government 2 Likes |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by NaijaPrince18: 12:49pm On Feb 26 |
Tinubu is not responsible at all for the hunger 1 Like |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 12:50pm On Feb 26 |
NaijaPrince18:He is partly responsible tho he inherited a country in ruins...he must take part of the blame...and the more his administration stays in power, his fair share of the blame will increase |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by advanceDNA: 12:59pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24: I don't want to be hearing what past government did.....are they not the same bunch of APC clowns....if all u have to say is blame buhari for tinubus's incompetence at this point ..Oga.... Dey go abeg..... 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by NaijaPrince18: 12:59pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24:The country was never good. He’s not responsible for the hunger. Period. Blame the north who bern ruling the country 1 Like |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by predictor1: 1:05pm On Feb 26 |
Bullfallo:So you believe Tinubu should continue to support the naira with dollars from foreign reserve ? What you will have is another Argentina with less than zero dollar foreign reserve. 1 Like |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by ehikwe22: 1:15pm On Feb 26 |
Can you sensibly blame Buhari without putting the bulk of the blame on Tinubu? He bankrolled him with stolen funds and Tinubu and Obama are the two major reasons a calamity like Buhari was able to become the president of Nigeria. Do I need to remind you how far Tinubu went to install Buhari? He knew that Buhari would destroy Nigeria. He also knew that after Buharis destruction, he was coming to bury it because he lacks the capacity to rule Nigeria and also only interested in hijacking power and stealing everything on his path |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by advanceDNA: 1:18pm On Feb 26 |
predictor1: Can u please explain in clearly how this ur claim will happen.....and the same ddnt happen in obasanjo era??instead...baba grew foreign reserve, cleared the debts we had that time, and still pegged the naira a bit.. |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 1:23pm On Feb 26 |
NaijaPrince18:Lol everybody get blame for inside matter, under tinubu administration, herdsmen are still ravaging farmers, the call for state police is good, untill then insecurity is part of the reasons of low food production |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 1:24pm On Feb 26 |
ehikwe22:Yes tinubu helped buhari to enter but was it Tinubu that dictated buhari's policies? |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 1:26pm On Feb 26 |
advanceDNA:You and this obasanjo, this is 2024 and u are citing events of 1999 , when we have different economic and Geo-political situations... U cannot peg ur currency without using money to stabilize the rate u want, u use ur reserve to create artificial demand in order to shore up the value of the currency to what u want... Nigeria's reserves is not as high as it used to be, Nigeria had very good economic growth under obasanjo |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 1:30pm On Feb 26 |
Baba grew foreign reserves, abeg is it not when ur economy is doing well that foreign reserves will grow? Nigeria is a country with massive security challenges across all regions...how can economy grow under such conditions? Then add this to a clueless government and the common sense fact that policies will take time to bear fruits...so lets say Tinubu and co know what they are doing, it then means that it will take time for their policies to start showing results |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by NaijaPrince18: 1:30pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24:Only everyone is not getting blame. You are only talking about tinubu. Probably another anti Yoruba bigot |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by advanceDNA: 1:33pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24: Please bros....nor be u I ask question ooo... I don't know why u are here ...... U answers are always biased and vague.... U just like to drop claims to form knowledgeable Its not a good way of dialogue when u are not talking your toddlers at home |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 1:46pm On Feb 26 |
advanceDNA:Because you are not using common sense to analyze the situation.. Economics is not simple ABC, .... |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 1:47pm On Feb 26 |
NaijaPrince18:Wetin concern me and bigotry. We cannot keep blaming the North, lets look at the future and how to solve present issues, the north have messed the country up big time but that is a story for another day ...but now, we need to think of the way forward |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by advanceDNA: 2:03pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24: Now u have shifted to insult.....the question i asked another person that u rushed into..u couldn't even answer it.....all u did is justify why this government cant perform.... u don't know how much our revenue is.. U don't know how much we use in debt servicing ....u don't know how much we can use to peg the dollar at for example 800naira to dollar... U don't know how much we generate from IGR ...u don't know how much is being embezzled. U don't have any figures.....yet u want to form economics.. U just come here to churn out APC lies that make all forms of subsidy look like an abomination.... so much that u the citizens reject ur own common wealth in the name of debt payment.... We've been generating revenue from oil every month since forever.......and i asked ..how exactly are we going to run out of dollars just because we are using some of our revenue generated to pay debts, peg currency and help the nation as we grow other forms of exports U can't explain...yet u know how to throw insults.....please don't run into my mentions again if u cant back ur claims well |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Melagros(m): 2:28pm On Feb 26 |
COMRADES, I disagree with the op, tinubu should have stepped down for Osinbanjo in the first place People are blaming tinubu because he lacks the political will to make changes Wasn't he aware that the economy was in bad state? He was 100% aware before taking the mantle of leadership, we don't want to hear any excuses in this regard |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 2:42pm On Feb 26 |
advanceDNA:You are just making noise instead of points.... I don't need to have all these figures to analyze what is simple and clear to everybody... U are wanting by all means to paint me as an APC member because u have failed to use common sense to understand my posts... Simply put, the current government is inefficient or has proven to be so far, but the inherited a big mess from the previous government...how is this hard to comprehend abeg? You say that Nigeria is using 99% percent of revenue to service debt, i say it is not true, Nigeria is making money from oil, oil still makes the bulk of government revenue, a huge chunk will go into debt and others will be used to run the country.... There is nothing wrong with subsidizing the naira via exchange rate control, but is it not clear that it is funds that will be used to do it? Nigeria has a low foreign reserve despite crude oil earnings, so the government has to make priorities with consequences.... Economics is not simple ABC, if the government decides to implement control, it will allocate funds and will have to cut spending somewhere else... Where in my post did i justify the government? The beginning of this our tantrum is ur inability to comprehend the fact that yes Tinubu has his fair share of blame but he also inherited a mess from Buhari...why is this even a debate? For example if obi had won, do u think things would have turned around by now? Impossible, reforms take time, obi would be laying foundations, but we would still feel effects of the tough measures... Obi said he will stop defending the naira, we would have felt it as it would have devalued the naira Obi said he would remove fuel subsidy in phases, this was an excellent idea but the impact would still have been felt but in a lesser way than the catastrophe we have now... It takes time to build and stabilize an economy, so either way ,we were bound to go tru tough times, but the problem now is that Tinubu and co are not up to the task so far...i don't see much to be optimistic about this administration |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 2:48pm On Feb 26 |
Advancedna You made good points on embezzlement and corruption, crude oil theft, excessive government spending and waste e.t.c. Let's say the present government is taking steps to fix this loophole, the impact on the short term will help increase government finances, but would it be enough to alleviate the pressures of a sick economy and the effect of insecurity on the short term within a year? Not at all, but at least we will be heading in the right direction slowly, that is why Tinubu has his fair share of blame and as his administration stays longer in power, his share of the blame will keep increasing... |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Dsimmer: 2:50pm On Feb 26 |
Tinubu has done lots of laudable things. He inherited a looted treasury when he took over yet He's able to do a lot of laudable things. Only thing I would say was he could have tackled the speculators /launderers which includes BDC and crypto much sooner but then again, Emefiele and his goons were still running riot in the first few months Tinubu took over. Even the new CBN had only just started clamping down on these speculators and he should continue to clamp hard on them. In fact, he should ensure everything goes digital like JAMB Board did after the snake money nonsense from the previous administration. Meanwhile, what are the state governors doing to help more production at home? The governors have to also help the federal government. They're not elected to act like Barbie. The governor can invest in the combination of large scale mechanized farming and agro industrialization in each local government in their state for example. If these governors couldn't, each governor could at least devolute into three sections (North, Central and South in each state). Then ensure investment in at least two large scale mechanized farming combined with agro industrialization in each of the three sections. That's about 6 mechanized farming combined with agro industrialization in each state. Imagine if each governor does this in each state? Also, what are the senators and house of representatives doing in their communities and state? |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Minsk24: 2:54pm On Feb 26 |
Dsimmer:While i understand the shortcomings of the governors, but u forget that the so-called mechanized agriculture will cost huge amount of money, can the states afford? What about insecurity? Yes state have their fair share of blame, but in a situation where the head is faulty and inefficient, the rest of the body will suffer .. What stops the federal government from bringing out an agricultural plan which the governors will implement with coordination from the FG.... Governors have their fair share of blame as well but the bulk of the blame lies with Tinubu |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by Dsimmer: 3:04pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24: More reason why the state governors have to be involved in agriculture to curb insecurity in the state. They're getting enough allocations to ensure such projects which can also be invested in. They're not elected to act as barbies. If they're not short sighted, they would have realised that these large scale mechanized farming combined with agro industrialization would even fetch them more revenues. |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by NaijaPrince18: 4:01pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24:You are not being sincere. The north are a bunch of terrorists and bigots |
Re: Tinibu, Not Entirely Responsible For The Current Hunger.not Defending Him Though by NaijaPrince18: 4:02pm On Feb 26 |
Minsk24:Explain how? |
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